• FML

    From Hemo@1:103/705 to All on Sat Dec 3 20:51:00 2016
    working on a 'clean' server to put the bbs on, right after I wipe and begin a rebuild, dang VM host goes down. Cant reach the server co, or any of my other vm systems. Being the weekend, it's likely Tuesday before I know more.

    I've had so many issues with this hosting company, this is just par for the course.

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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Hemo on Sun Dec 4 10:46:42 2016
    Hello Hemo,

    On 03 Dec 16 20:51, Hemo wrote to All:

    working on a 'clean' server to put the bbs on, right after I wipe and begin a rebuild, dang VM host goes down. Cant reach the server co, or
    any of my other vm systems. Being the weekend, it's likely Tuesday
    before I know more.

    I've had so many issues with this hosting company, this is just par
    for the course.

    Looks to me like it's time to take your business elsewhere.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Hemo@1:103/705 to Accession on Sun Dec 4 23:17:00 2016
    Accession wrote to Hemo <=-

    Hello Hemo,

    On 03 Dec 16 20:51, Hemo wrote to All:

    working on a 'clean' server to put the bbs on, right after I wipe and begin a rebuild, dang VM host goes down. Cant reach the server co, or
    any of my other vm systems. Being the weekend, it's likely Tuesday
    before I know more.

    I've had so many issues with this hosting company, this is just par
    for the course.

    Looks to me like it's time to take your business elsewhere.

    Got that right. Rather than sit around and wait to hear back, I pulled all my backups to a Cobalt Qube 3 sitting in my basement. Pulled the source and let it compile overnight. Just finished getting it all back online, this time from a place where I can watch it better, I hope.




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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Hemo on Mon Dec 5 08:27:48 2016
    Hello Hemo,

    On 04 Dec 16 23:17, Hemo wrote to Accession:

    I've had so many issues with this hosting company, this is just
    par for the course.

    Looks to me like it's time to take your business elsewhere.

    Got that right. Rather than sit around and wait to hear back, I
    pulled all my backups to a Cobalt Qube 3 sitting in my basement.
    Pulled the source and let it compile overnight. Just finished getting
    it all back online, this time from a place where I can watch it
    better, I hope.

    That's the main reason I still host my BBS here at home, although it's now resting quite nicely on a RasPi3 (which is much more quiet than the Athlon64 3700+ it was on prior to that). If my system goes down, it's my own damn fault.

    Not some company I'm paying a rental fee for hosting something and when it goes

    down I have no control over fixing it.

    Obviously if I had crappy internet or something, it would probably be a better option. But since everything in and around my house is pretty reliable, I'd much rather pay my electric bill in order to run this stuff rather than a hosting facility.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Hemo@1:103/705 to Accession on Mon Dec 5 11:38:00 2016
    Re: FML
    By: Accession to Hemo on Mon Dec 05 2016 08:27 am

    Hello Hemo,

    On 04 Dec 16 23:17, Hemo wrote to Accession:

    I've had so many issues with this hosting company, this is just
    par for the course.

    Looks to me like it's time to take your business elsewhere.

    Got that right. Rather than sit around and wait to hear back, I
    pulled all my backups to a Cobalt Qube 3 sitting in my basement.
    Pulled the source and let it compile overnight. Just finished
    getting it all back online, this time from a place where I can watch
    it better, I hope.

    That's the main reason I still host my BBS here at home, although it's now resting quite nicely on a RasPi3 (which is much more quiet than the Athlon64 3700+ it was on prior to that). If my system goes down, it's my own damn fault. Not some company I'm paying a rental fee for hosting something and when it goes down I have no control over fixing it.

    Obviously if I had crappy internet or something, it would probably be a better option. But since everything in and around my house is pretty reliable, I'd much rather pay my electric bill in order to run this stuff rather than a hosting facility.

    There were 'extra' resources with the account at the hosting company, so I thought it would be neat to utilize a few processors, 4GB ram and 40GB disk.

    It all started out working fairly well, but the last few months have been utter horror. downtime, unreachable, victim to ddos, dns down, you name it. Their IT would semmingly randomly select a vm to move to another host and not tell the client, something about all that wasn't appreciated by my vm and it would get stupid slow until it was rebooted. Not to mention I would also lose console access until it was rebooted.

    I too, have pretty reliable internet and electric around home, and have the whole setup on a line conditioning UPS. It remains to be seen which ports, if any, TWC might be blocking on my home service. I am having some snafu with getting all things working, but not ruling out myself or the versions of things on the Qube yet.

    --Hemo

    ... Hypochondriac: someone who enjoys bad health.

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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Hemo on Mon Dec 5 15:19:36 2016
    Hello Hemo,

    On 05 Dec 16 11:38, Hemo wrote to Accession:

    It all started out working fairly well, but the last few months have
    been utter horror. downtime, unreachable, victim to ddos, dns down,
    you name it. Their IT would semmingly randomly select a vm to move to another host and not tell the client, something about all that wasn't appreciated by my vm and it would get stupid slow until it was
    rebooted. Not to mention I would also lose console access until it
    was rebooted.

    Sounds like a bad business model. With that kind of service they shouldn't last

    very long.

    I too, have pretty reliable internet and electric around home, and
    have the whole setup on a line conditioning UPS. It remains to be
    seen which ports, if any, TWC might be blocking on my home service. I
    am having some snafu with getting all things working, but not ruling
    out myself or the versions of things on the Qube yet.

    For your ease of mine, I also have TWC and have been doing this for quite awhile now. They don't block any ports, but when you visit Synchronet email stuff, you may want to consider relaying through Vertrauen or elsewhere. I've noticed TWC IP ranges on some blocklists, and if you're not running some sort of certified email server, most of your outgoing mail will end up in other people's trash can.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Accession on Tue Dec 6 08:44:00 2016
    Accession wrote to Hemo <=-

    That's the main reason I still host my BBS here at home, although it's
    now resting quite nicely on a RasPi3 (which is much more quiet than the Athlon64 3700+ it was on prior to that). If my system goes down, it's
    my own damn fault.

    I run my BBSs at home, which works well. When the NBN comes in the near future, my line speed issues should be resolved. However, I do have a VPS hosted by a company that a friend runs. The VPS has been rock solid, except for one outage years ago. It hosts a heap of ham radio related services that need bandwidth far beyond what I can currently provide. I get a /28 of IPv4 and /64 of IPv6 on the box for a reasonable price. :)


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  • From Hemo@1:103/705 to Accession on Mon Dec 5 22:16:00 2016
    Accession wrote to Hemo <=-

    For your ease of mine, I also have TWC and have been doing this for
    quite awhile now. They don't block any ports, but when you visit Synchronet email stuff, you may want to consider relaying through Vertrauen or elsewhere. I've noticed TWC IP ranges on some blocklists,
    and if you're not running some sort of certified email server, most of your outgoing mail will end up in other people's trash can.

    Good point. Thanks for the heads up.

    -- Hemo
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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue Dec 6 07:54:48 2016
    Hello Tony,

    On 06 Dec 16 08:44, Tony Langdon wrote to Accession:

    That's the main reason I still host my BBS here at home, although
    it's now resting quite nicely on a RasPi3 (which is much more
    quiet than the Athlon64 3700+ it was on prior to that). If my
    system goes down, it's my own damn fault.

    I run my BBSs at home, which works well. When the NBN comes in the
    near future, my line speed issues should be resolved. However, I do
    have a VPS hosted by a company that a friend runs. The VPS has been
    rock solid, except for one outage years ago. It hosts a heap of ham
    radio related services that need bandwidth far beyond what I can
    currently provide. I get a /28 of IPv4 and /64 of IPv6 on the box for
    a reasonable price. :)

    Don't get my wrong, I have nothing against VPS and hosting services that do their job and do it well. It would be a great backup plan to have somewhere reliable to host your stuff.

    With this company that a friend runs, do you get any extra priviledges like access to the physical hardware somewhat close by or anything? Even being able to have enough access to be able to shut down/restart your services from outside the actual server if something were to go wrong that you might notice before anyone else. Those would also be some nice perks. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Accession on Wed Dec 7 08:13:00 2016
    Accession wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Don't get my wrong, I have nothing against VPS and hosting services
    that do their job and do it well. It would be a great backup plan to
    have somewhere reliable to host your stuff.

    With this company that a friend runs, do you get any extra priviledges like access to the physical hardware somewhat close by or anything?
    Even being able to have enough access to be able to shut down/restart
    your services from outside the actual server if something were to go
    wrong that you might notice before anyone else. Those would also be
    some nice perks. :)

    Physical access is pointless, the server is 700km from here, but he's pretty quick to push the button on the very rare occasions I have had to get the VPS reset, and I don't pay extra for my IPs (the amount I have would add up :) ). I was also one who pushed him to adopt IPv6, so he can now offer that to all of his customers.

    I haven't worried about console access, the hosting has undergone a few changes of technology, which have been largely transparent to me (I think only one transition required any work on my part). The service has been so reliable that I haven't felt any need for remote console access.


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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Accession on Thu Dec 8 11:05:58 2016

    Hello Accession!

    06 Dec 16 07:54, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    With this company that a friend runs, do you get any extra priviledges like access to the physical hardware somewhat close by or anything?

    Most providers have that option. Some more stict than others!


    Even being able to have enough access to be able to shut down/restart
    your services from outside the actual server if something were to go
    wrong that you might notice before anyone else. Those would also be
    some nice perks. :)

    That's what the "ilo" (Intergrated Lights Out) on HP servers and "idrac" (Intergraded Dell Remote Access) on dell
    servers are for. They provide remote console, power shutdown and re-start. All that's needed is a seprate network
    cable and ip address. Some have more features than other's. Ie: virtual media support.

    As long as there is power to the machine even if it's turned off, you can power it up etc.

    http://vk3heg.net/ilo-screenshot.png

    You can see that this server is off atm...




    Stephen


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  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Stephen Walsh on Thu Dec 8 09:01:16 2016
    Hello Stephen,

    On 08 Dec 16 11:05, Stephen Walsh wrote to Accession:

    That's what the "ilo" (Intergrated Lights Out) on HP servers and
    "idrac" (Intergraded Dell Remote Access) on dell servers are for. They provide remote console, power shutdown and re-start. All that's needed
    is a seprate network cable and ip address. Some have more features
    than other's. Ie: virtual media support.

    As long as there is power to the machine even if it's turned off, you
    can power it up etc.

    http://vk3heg.net/ilo-screenshot.png

    You can see that this server is off atm...

    That's pretty cool. Do a lot of providers offer this much access though?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Accession on Sun Dec 11 16:02:42 2016

    Hello Accession!

    08 Dec 16 09:01, you wrote to me:

    That's what the "ilo" (Intergrated Lights Out) on HP servers and
    "idrac" (Intergraded Dell Remote Access) on dell servers are for.
    They provide remote console, power shutdown and re-start. All
    that's needed is a seprate network cable and ip address. Some
    have more features than other's. Ie: virtual media support.

    As long as there is power to the machine even if it's turned off,
    you can power it up etc.

    http://vk3heg.net/ilo-screenshot.png

    You can see that this server is off atm...

    That's pretty cool. Do a lot of providers offer this much access
    though?

    If your server supprts the above remote management features (entry servers normally dont *), and the co-location/data
    centre allows it (I haven't seen any over here not support it) then your good to go.

    * = I know that Entry level Intel server mb's dont.
    Some Dell servers come with it standard, and some have it as a extra addon.




    Stephen


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