So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing me for a loop. They assigned me a node number, but that was about it. Have no ideas where to pull echoes from, nodelists, etc. anything.

Not even 100% sure how having Fidonet and fsxNet together won't clobber one another (assuming the zones keep that all straighted out?)

Anyone out there willing to help understand where to go from here?

To be fair, back in the 80s and 90s this whole Fidonet thing was confusing as well!


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Re: Fidonet help
By: Dmxrob to All on Fri Mar 01 2019 03:21 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing me for a loop. They assigned me a node number, but that was about it. Have no ideas where to pull echoes from, nodelists, etc. anything.

I think this may be a good place to start: http://wiki.synchro.net/network:fidonet

Also you want to make sure you read and re-read the policy4 document and ensure you are completly familar with it.
https://www.fidonet.org/policy4.txt

Not even 100% sure how having Fidonet and fsxNet together won't clobber one another (assuming the zones keep that all straighted out?)

Anyone out there willing to help understand where to go from here?

To be fair, back in the 80s and 90s this whole Fidonet thing was confusing as well!

I had my board connected to FidoNet back in the late 90s but I haven't had a chance to get around to setting it up again, I'm hoping to do that in the near future.


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On 2019 Mar 01 15:21:26, you wrote to All:

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing me for a loop. They assigned me a node number, but that was about it. Have no ideas where to pull echoes from, nodelists, etc. anything.

why not ask jeff smith if he has any recommendations? which ever net you were placed in you'll need to poll its /0 at least once a week to pick up any possible routed netmail waiting there...

as for a feed, you are free to get your echos and FDNs from any system you can set up an agreement with... i offered (and did) help to get you pointed in the right direction to get a number and i'll also offer to provide you a feed of echos and FDNs... you have my email address ;)

Not even 100% sure how having Fidonet and fsxNet together won't
clobber one another (assuming the zones keep that all straighted out?)

assuming that you keep them separated by groups, you should not have any problems...

Anyone out there willing to help understand where to go from here?

sure :)

To be fair, back in the 80s and 90s this whole Fidonet thing was
confusing as well!

i've been in fidonet since about a year (i think) before policy 4 was presented
and adopted... it was only confusing then because the software wasn't as nicely
put together as today's solutions... but we were also trying to use quickBBS tools with remoteaccess and were apparently missing something that another new tool rectified :)

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Re: Fidonet help
By: Electrosys to Dmxrob on Fri Mar 01 2019 02:27 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and

I think this may be a good place to start: http://wiki.synchro.net/network:fidonet

I'm pretty much past the technical point, rather more Fido-specific issues -- the main one being the echo feeds, obtaining them, etc. No real docs on those.


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Re: Fidonet help
By: Dmxrob to All on Fri Mar 01 2019 03:21 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing me for a loop. They assigned me a node number, but that was about it. Have no ideas where to pull echoes from, nodelists, etc. anything.

The person who assigned your node number should be able to help with some of that. Typically, the net coordinator can get you set up with a file and echo feed.

Do you have a temporary nodelist to work with? There are nodelist file echoes - I'd recommend once you learn your file feed info to connect to the NODELIST echo. You'll get an updated echo every week.

Fidonet used to use weekly DIFF files using the NODEDIFF echo, but that's mostly irrelevant now. It's easier to pull a full list than try and update a list.

Not even 100% sure how having Fidonet and fsxNet together won't clobber one another (assuming the zones keep that all straighted out?)

I'm using Synchronet and Binkit, and have several networks configured. You need to put the node numbers into SCFG, and specify the correct network address when configuring the message areas.

You can use the same areas.bbs file, just add the Fido echoes with the correct uplink.

There are a bunch of Fidonet sysops here, ask away!

Hope this helps.

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Re: Fidonet help
By: Dmxrob to Electrosys on Fri Mar 01 2019 05:31 pm

Re: Fidonet help
By: Electrosys to Dmxrob on Fri Mar 01 2019 02:27 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and

I think this may be a good place to start: http://wiki.synchro.net/network:fidonet

I'm pretty much past the technical point, rather more Fido-specific issues -- the main one being the echo feeds, obtaining them, etc. No real docs on those.

dmxrob * BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

You may want to try browsing through the nodelist file because you can see who your zone "leader" bbs is and also your hub "leader" bbs is within the host fil And you can spend some time on those boards. I'm sure they would be ready and willing to help you out.

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On 03-01-19 15:21, Dmxrob wrote to All <=-

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing me for a loop. They assigned me a node number, but that was about it. Have no ideas where to pull echoes from, nodelists, etc. anything.

They should have let you know who your hub was, so you can at least pick up routed netmail. Most Fidonet nodes will also pick up echomail there, though you can pick up echomail from any Fido node you like.

Not even 100% sure how having Fidonet and fsxNet together won't clobber one another (assuming the zones keep that all straighted out?)

No dramas. Different zones, and if you use 5D addressing, different domains as well.

Anyone out there willing to help understand where to go from here?

To be fair, back in the 80s and 90s this whole Fidonet thing was
confusing as well!

You need to find out where your main feed (for netmail) will be. I'm surprised that information wasn't given to you.


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On 03-01-19 19:02, Electrosys wrote to Dmxrob <=-

You may want to try browsing through the nodelist file because you can
see who your zone "leader" bbs is and also your hub "leader" bbs is
within the host fil And you can spend some time on those boards. I'm
sure they would be ready and willing to help you out.

Good point, that is how I sussed out my local NC (and then applied via the traditional "Policy 4" method. :) ).


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On 2019 Mar 02 12:24:00, you wrote to Dmxrob:

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up
and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing me
for a loop. They assigned me a node number, but that was about it.
Have no ideas where to pull echoes from, nodelists, etc. anything.

They should have let you know who your hub was, so you can at least
pick up routed netmail.

i think you mean host instead of hub... the only official hub in FTN is within a net and generally then only in very large nets... it plays like a mini-host... complete with hub-segs and all... like the host, it is not required to do anything other than to make routed netmail available to the destination system...

Most Fidonet nodes will also pick up echomail there, though you can
pick up echomail from any Fido node you like.

true but i would probably say many instead of most...

Not even 100% sure how having Fidonet and fsxNet together won't
clobber one another (assuming the zones keep that all straighted
out?)

No dramas. Different zones, and if you use 5D addressing, different domains as well.

true again :)

Anyone out there willing to help understand where to go from here?

To be fair, back in the 80s and 90s this whole Fidonet thing was
confusing as well!

You need to find out where your main feed (for netmail) will be. I'm surprised that information wasn't given to you.

it was when he was assigned his node number ;)


we're gonna go watch a Dragon fly now ;)

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Mark,

we're gonna go watch a Dragon fly now ;)

What's the fly draggin'?? :P

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Re: Fidonet help
By: Daryl Stout to MARK LEWIS on Sat Mar 02 2019 11:02:00

we're gonna go watch a Dragon fly now ;)

What's the fly draggin'?? :P

spaceX's Crew Dragon ship which is now docked to the ISS... we were able to be up and watch the launch stream live as well as the 1st stage landing on the "Of Course I Still Love You" drone ship...


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Re: Fidonet help
By: mark lewis to Dmxrob on Fri Mar 01 2019 01:33 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up
and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing

Are you running Synchronet? Do you know you need a mailer/tosser setup up
to pick up fidonet? Fidonet is a totally different "animal" compared to QWK messages.

Hustler

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Re: Fidonet help
By: mark lewis to Dmxrob on Fri Mar 01 2019 01:33 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up
and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing

Are you running Synchronet? Do you know you need a mailer/tosser
setup up to pick up fidonet? Fidonet is a totally different
"animal" compared to QWK messages.

Ummmmm. He said he had fsxNet up, which of course uses a
mailer/tosser (it's not QWK). So...

Also, you replied to "All" on a message that is almost two months
old. He's got it running now.



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Re: Re: Fidonet help
By: Dan Clough to Hustler on Thu Apr 25 2019 06:40 pm

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up
and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing

Are you running Synchronet? Do you know you need a mailer/tosser
setup up to pick up fidonet? Fidonet is a totally different

Ummmmm. He said he had fsxNet up, which of course uses a
mailer/tosser (it's not QWK). So...

Really? That's strange. I get FsxNet with QWK on my BBS.

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Hustler wrote to Dan Clough <=-

So I am totally lost with Fidonet here. I managed to get fsxNet up
and running with relative ease, but this Fidonet stuff is throwing

Are you running Synchronet? Do you know you need a mailer/tosser
setup up to pick up fidonet? Fidonet is a totally different

Ummmmm. He said he had fsxNet up, which of course uses a
mailer/tosser (it's not QWK). So...

Really? That's strange. I get FsxNet with QWK on my BBS.

Well apparently it can be done either way. I get fsxNet with FTN (mailer/tosser) on my BBS.



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Ummmmm. He said he had fsxNet up, which of course uses a
mailer/tosser (it's not QWK). So...

Really? That's strange. I get FsxNet with QWK on my BBS.

It is mostly FTN but a few of us get it via QWK from Dan R.

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