• Netmail Area

    From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to All on Thu May 4 13:19:00 2017
    Hello again,

    Now that I have echomail working correctly, I need a little help with netmail. How do I set that area up so SBBS can distinguish it from echomail? Also, how does SBBS compile a nodelist? In the event I want to send mail to an node other than my hub, how does SBBS find the user in the nodelist?

    Please let me know how you have your netmail setup.

    Next, do you run binkdwin via a timed event, or do we depend on fidoin/fidoout to create semaphores that kick off binkdwin?

    Thanks in advance for the info.

    Best regards,
    Joe
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Joe Bruchis on Thu May 4 21:36:28 2017
    Re: Netmail Area
    By: Joe Bruchis to All on Thu May 04 2017 13:19:01

    Now that I have echomail working correctly, I need a little help with netmail. How do I set that area up so SBBS can distinguish it from echomail? Also, how does SBBS compile a nodelist? In the event I want to send mail to an node other than my hub, how does SBBS find the user in the nodelist?


    First Synchronet does not use a nodelist, so no need to compile one. Binkd will handle netmail, but you will likely have to configure it with the address of that node. As for netmail and synchronet, you dont need a special area.
    If I remember correctly, you go to Netmail settings in your configuration setup. Netmail is internal to Synchronet, and there is no actual area to setup, unlike echomail.


    Joe
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Joe Bruchis on Fri May 5 10:59:30 2017

    On 2017 May 04 13:19:00, you wrote to All:

    Now that I have echomail working correctly, I need a little help with netmail. How do I set that area up so SBBS can distinguish it from echomail?

    AFAIK the netmail is placed in the user's private mail area automatically... there is no netmail area...

    Also, how does SBBS compile a nodelist?

    it does not...

    In the event I want to send mail to an node other than my hub, how
    does SBBS find the user in the nodelist?

    it does not... you have to know this information beforehand and enter it correctly... then the routing configuration takes over as to whether the netmail goes routed or direct...

    Next, do you run binkdwin via a timed event, or do we depend on fidoin/fidoout to create semaphores that kick off binkdwin?

    binkd runs all the time so it can receive inbound connections for mail and file
    transfers... the only thing we used fidoin and fidoout for are to trigger the mail handler to toss or scan mail for packaging and sending... the actual mailer, binkd, stays running all the time and will create the fidoin semaphore when new mail arrives... sbbs does the fidoout thing... a default configuration
    sends the echomail immediately once it is saved... we changed our setup so that
    we scan outbound echomail at a timed interval... that gives folks a chance to edit or delete an echomail they wrote if they want/need to...

    so, binkd creates fidoin after the session is complete... then sbbs sees the fidoin semaphore and fires up sbbsecho which tosses the mail into sbbs...
    sbbs handles fidoout when configured and sbbsecho scans out the mail, packages it and places it in the binkd outbound for binkd to send...

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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to mark lewis on Fri May 5 11:27:00 2017
    Re: Netmail Area
    By: mark lewis to Joe Bruchis on Fri May 05 2017 10:59:30

    Next, do you run binkdwin via a timed event, or do we depend on
    fidoin/fidoout to create semaphores that kick off binkdwin?

    binkd runs all the time so it can receive inbound connections for mail and file
    transfers... the only thing we used fidoin and fidoout for are to trigger the mail handler to toss or scan mail for packaging and sending... the actual mailer, binkd, stays running all the time and will create the fidoin semaphore when new mail arrives... sbbs does the fidoout thing... a default configuration
    sends the echomail immediately once it is saved... we changed our setup so that
    we scan outbound echomail at a timed interval... that gives folks a chance to edit or delete an echomail they wrote if they want/need to...

    I believe Joe runs DB, thus the binkdwin. That too however, can be set to run in the background like binkd.


    Joe
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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to Joe Delahaye on Fri May 5 17:18:42 2017
    On Fri May-05-2017 11:27, Joe Delahaye (1:249/303) wrote to mark lewis:

    Re: Netmail Area
    By: mark lewis to Joe Bruchis on Fri May 05 2017 10:59:30

    Next, do you run binkdwin via a timed event, or do we depend on
    fidoin/fidoout to create semaphores that kick off binkdwin?

    binkd runs all the time so it can receive inbound connections for
    mail and file transfers... the only thing we used fidoin and
    fidoout for are to trigger the mail handler to toss or scan mail
    for packaging and sending... the actual mailer, binkd, stays
    running all the time and will create the fidoin semaphore when new
    mail arrives... sbbs does the fidoout thing... a default
    configuration sends the echomail immediately once it is saved...
    we changed our setup so that we scan outbound echomail at a timed interval... that gives folks a chance to edit or delete an
    echomail they wrote if they want/need to...

    I believe Joe runs DB, thus the binkdwin. That too however, can be
    set to run in the background like binkd.

    That is correct. He does run BinkdWIN.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to Joe Delahaye on Mon May 8 10:31:10 2017
    Joe Delahaye wrote in a message to Joe Bruchis:


    First Synchronet does not use a nodelist, so no need to compile
    one. Binkd will handle netmail, but you will likely have to
    configure it with the address of that node. As for netmail and synchronet, you dont need a special area. If I remember correctly,
    you go to Netmail settings in your configuration setup. Netmail is internal to Synchronet, and there is no actual area to setup,
    unlike echomail.


    Hi Joe, sorry for the delayed reply. I was out-of-town over the weekend.

    I think I understand how netmail works in SBBS now. Thaks for the info.

    Regards,

    Joe
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  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to mark lewis on Mon May 8 10:34:50 2017
    mark lewis wrote in a message to Joe Bruchis:


    AFAIK the netmail is placed in the user's private mail area automatically... there is no netmail area...

    Also, how does SBBS compile a nodelist?

    it does not...

    In the event I want to send mail to an node other than my hub, how
    does SBBS find the user in the nodelist?

    it does not... you have to know this information beforehand and
    enter it correctly... then the routing configuration takes over as
    to whether the netmail goes routed or direct...

    Next, do you run binkdwin via a timed event, or do we depend on fidoin/fidoout to create semaphores that kick off binkdwin?

    binkd runs all the time so it can receive inbound connections for
    mail and file transfers... the only thing we used fidoin and
    fidoout for are to trigger the mail handler to toss or scan mail
    for packaging and sending... the actual mailer, binkd, stays
    running all the time and will create the fidoin semaphore when new
    mail arrives... sbbs does the fidoout thing... a default
    configuration sends the echomail immediately once it is saved... we changed our setup so that we scan outbound echomail at a timed
    interval... that gives folks a chance to edit or delete an echomail
    they wrote if they want/need to...

    so, binkd creates fidoin after the session is complete... then sbbs
    sees the fidoin semaphore and fires up sbbsecho which tosses the
    mail into sbbs... sbbs handles fidoout when configured and sbbsecho
    scans out the mail, packages it and places it in the binkd outbound
    for binkd to send...

    Thanks for taking the time to give the details, Mark. I have gone over the docs
    a few times and I wasn't able to grasp things the way you explained it.


    Regards,

    Joe
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  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to Joe Delahaye on Mon May 8 10:37:50 2017
    Joe Delahaye wrote in a message to mark lewis:


    I believe Joe runs DB, thus the binkdwin. That too however, can be
    set to run in the background like binkd.

    I do run DB, however only to poll my uplink (Roger Nelson) via timed events. I am understanding that I will need to run it as a service so that it will send mail when entered in the BBS.

    Regards,

    Joe
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Joe Bruchis on Mon May 8 21:40:40 2017
    Re: Netmail Area
    By: Joe Bruchis to Joe Delahaye on Mon May 08 2017 10:31:10

    Hi Joe, sorry for the delayed reply. I was out-of-town over the weekend.

    I think I understand how netmail works in SBBS now. Thaks for the info.

    Regards,

    Sounds good. There are plenty of us around that can help. When ready, if not already upgrade to the latest version, and dont forget to run the app to convert your sbbsecho.cfg to an .ini file when switching to sbbsecho ver 3.x


    Joe
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Joe Bruchis on Mon May 8 21:42:54 2017
    Re: Netmail Area
    By: Joe Bruchis to Joe Delahaye on Mon May 08 2017 10:37:50

    I believe Joe runs DB, thus the binkdwin. That too however, can be
    set to run in the background like binkd.

    I do run DB, however only to poll my uplink (Roger Nelson) via timed events. I am understanding that I will need to run it as a service so that it will send mail when entered in the BBS.


    Good. (again <G>) You could always just run binkd, if you dont use any of the other features of DB. The mail is not compatible with Synch, or I would be using it. I have it set up here as well.


    Joe
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  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to Joe Delahaye on Tue May 9 10:33:40 2017
    Joe Delahaye wrote in a message to Joe Bruchis:

    Good. (again <G>) You could always just run binkd, if you dont use
    any of the other features of DB. The mail is not compatible with
    Synch, or I would be using it. I have it set up here as well.

    Joe, have you tried any of the following:

    * Run DB as a front-end to poll your uplink via a schedule (not as a server or service). Disable the mail tosser.
    * Have a batch file copy the packets from DB inbound to SBBS inbound
    * Have DB toss the mail in its inbound as a timed event
    * Have SBBS toss the mail in its inbound as a timed event
    * Have SBBS send outbound normally as it is sent from the BBS
    * Have any mail you enter in DB's editor or other configured editor sent as normal after you enter it (crash via outgoing poll to your uplink).
    * NOTE: You can run "BinkdWin -v binkd.cfg" as a process and still run the DB binkd to poll your uplink. I have tried it successfully.

    OR OPTION 2:

    * Receive and send mail with your uplink via DB by polling your uplink (not as a server)
    * Read respond to mail as normal within DB or configured editor.
    * Get an FTP feed for the BBS separate from the feed from your uplink for receiving and sending mail. I know of free FTP feeds that are avalable.

    Regards,

    Joe
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Joe Bruchis on Tue May 9 16:03:48 2017
    Re: Netmail Area
    By: Joe Bruchis to Joe Delahaye on Tue May 09 2017 10:33:40

    Good. (again <G>) You could always just run binkd, if you dont use
    any of the other features of DB. The mail is not compatible with
    Synch, or I would be using it. I have it set up here as well.

    Joe, have you tried any of the following:

    * Run DB as a front-end to poll your uplink via a schedule (not as a server or service). Disable the mail tosser.
    * Have a batch file copy the packets from DB inbound to SBBS inbound
    * Have DB toss the mail in its inbound as a timed event
    * Have SBBS toss the mail in its inbound as a timed event
    * Have SBBS send outbound normally as it is sent from the BBS
    * Have any mail you enter in DB's editor or other configured editor sent as normal after you enter it (crash via outgoing poll to your uplink).
    * NOTE: You can run "BinkdWin -v binkd.cfg" as a process and still run the DB binkd to poll your uplink. I have tried it successfully.

    OR OPTION 2:

    * Receive and send mail with your uplink via DB by polling your uplink (not as a server)
    * Read respond to mail as normal within DB or configured editor.
    * Get an FTP feed for the BBS separate from the feed from your uplink for receiving and sending mail. I know of free FTP feeds that are avalable.

    I think over the years I have tried some of that. I still have a live phone line and modem on the BBS. The odd person and sysop, still use that. For those users calling in on POTS, I use Taurus (32 bit) and a utility that transfers the call to Synchronet, as a telnet connection. I have not tried to do that with DB since it is not 32 bit (yet at least).


    Joe
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  • From Joe Bruchis@1:3828/12 to Joe Delahaye on Tue May 9 16:37:20 2017
    Joe Delahaye wrote in a message to Joe Bruchis:


    * Receive and send mail with your uplink via DB by polling your uplink (not as a server)
    * Read respond to mail as normal within DB or configured editor.
    * Get an FTP feed for the BBS separate from the feed from your
    uplink for
    receiving and sending mail. I know of free FTP feeds that are avalable.

    I think over the years I have tried some of that. I still have a
    live phone line and modem on the BBS. The odd person and sysop,
    still use that. For those users calling in on POTS, I use Taurus
    (32 bit) and a utility that transfers the call to Synchronet, as a
    telnet connection. I have not tried to do that with DB since it
    is not 32 bit (yet at least).

    Yes. I can see how those constraints pose special problems.

    I think I am going to opt for a ftp feed for the BBS. I'll do my personal editing in Timed and personal tossing, packing, sending and receiving in DB. That will solve it for me.

    Regards,

    Joe
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Joe Bruchis on Tue May 9 19:35:00 2017
    Re: Netmail Area
    By: Joe Bruchis to Joe Delahaye on Tue May 09 2017 16:37:20

    I think over the years I have tried some of that. I still have a
    live phone line and modem on the BBS. The odd person and sysop,
    still use that. For those users calling in on POTS, I use Taurus
    (32 bit) and a utility that transfers the call to Synchronet, as a
    telnet connection. I have not tried to do that with DB since it
    is not 32 bit (yet at least).

    Yes. I can see how those constraints pose special problems.

    I think I am going to opt for a ftp feed for the BBS. I'll do my personal editing in Timed and personal tossing, packing, sending and receiving in DB. That will solve it for me.


    Whatever works for you is what you should use <G>


    Joe
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