• Dynamic DNS for any domain

    From Nightfox@1:103/705 to All on Sun Aug 5 16:03:02 2018
    Hi all,

    I was using DtDNS as a dynamic IP update service for digitaldistortionbbs.com, which I use for my BBS. Now that DtDNS is gone, does anyone know of a good alternate free dynamic DNS site that can update the IP address for any domain? It seems that some of the dynamic DNS services want to also provide a domain. I just want to periodically update the IP address for digitaldistortionbbs.com. It seems some dynamic IP services charge money; ideally it would be something free.

    It seems digitaldistortionbbs.com has the wrong IP address now, so people are unable to connect to my BBS using that domain. Alternately, digdist.synchro.net should work.

    Nightfox

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  • From Marisag@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 6 03:09:21 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nightfox to All on Sun Aug 05 2018 16:03:02

    I cant help out with a DYNDNS, but I can give you a free synchronet host so you wouldn't need a dynamic IP address in the first place...

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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sun Aug 5 22:10:46 2018
    Nightfox wrote:
    Hi all,

    I was using DtDNS as a dynamic IP update service for
    digitaldistortionbbs.com,
    which I use for my BBS. Now that DtDNS is gone, does anyone know of a good alternate free dynamic DNS site that can update the IP address for any
    domain?
    It seems that some of the dynamic DNS services want to also provide a
    domain.
    I just want to periodically update the IP address for
    digitaldistortionbbs.com.
    It seems some dynamic IP services charge money; ideally it would be
    something
    free.

    It seems digitaldistortionbbs.com has the wrong IP address now, so people
    are
    unable to connect to my BBS using that domain. Alternately, digdist.synchro.net should work.

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for digdist.syncrho.net?
    Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert, it'll pick up the change automatically.

    If you really do want to have an A record, then I could setup a zone for you on my DNS server and you'll be able to update it.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nelgin on Mon Aug 6 19:24:00 2018
    On 08-05-18 22:10, Nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for digdist.syncrho.net?
    Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert, it'll pick up the change automatically.

    Nightfox, If push comes to shove, I could host the domain as a private domain on afraid.org and give you the URL to do DDNS updates. I have a premium account so I can put the stealth flag on it but do it free for you.


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Marisag on Mon Aug 6 09:49:46 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Marisag to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 03:09 am

    I cant help out with a DYNDNS, but I can give you a free synchronet host so you wouldn't need a dynamic IP address in the first place...

    That's ok, I don't feel I need that. I can host it at home just fine.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Nelgin on Mon Aug 6 09:50:31 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nelgin to Nightfox on Sun Aug 05 2018 10:10 pm

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for digdist.syncrho.net? Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert, it'll pick up the change automatically.

    I'm not sure what a CNAME is or how to do that.. Might have to find a guide online or something on how to do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Mon Aug 6 09:52:56 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nelgin on Mon Aug 06 2018 07:24 pm

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for
    digdist.syncrho.net?
    Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert, it'll pick up the
    change automatically.

    Nightfox, If push comes to shove, I could host the domain as a private domain on afraid.org and give you the URL to do DDNS updates. I have a premium account so I can put the stealth flag on it but do it free for you.

    Thanks. I'll see what I can do about updating the IP address, but may take you up on that if needed.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 6 11:54:42 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nightfox to All on Sun Aug 05 2018 04:03 pm

    Hi all,

    I was using DtDNS as a dynamic IP update service for digitaldistortionbbs.com, which I use for my BBS. Now that DtDNS is gone, does anyone know of a good alternate free dynamic DNS site that can update the IP address for any domain? It seems that some of the dynamic DNS services want to also provide a domain. I just want to periodically update the IP address for digitaldistortionbbs.com. It seems some dynamic IP services charge money; ideally it would be something free.

    It seems digitaldistortionbbs.com has the wrong IP address now, so people are unable to connect to my BBS using that domain. Alternately, digdist.synchro.net should work.

    An alternative solution would be to just make digitaldistortionbbs.com a CNAME record (not an A record) which points to digdist.synchro.net (not an IP address). That way, so long as digdist.synchro.net is correct, so will the longer domain name be.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 6 16:03:06 2018

    On 2018 Aug 05 16:03:02, you wrote to All:

    I was using DtDNS as a dynamic IP update service for digitaldistortionbbs.com, which I use for my BBS. Now that DtDNS is gone, does anyone know of a good alternate free dynamic DNS site that can update

    may i suggest to stop looking for free ones? the hackers and scammers are causing them all to close shop because of the activities and getting the free services blocked...

    the IP address for any domain? It seems that some of the dynamic DNS services want to also provide a domain. I just want to periodically
    update the IP address for digitaldistortionbbs.com. It seems some
    dynamic IP services charge money; ideally it would be something free.

    you do realize that you're changing DNS providers, right?

    there is/was a provider called zero something that had this capability, IIRC...
    i've not used them but i have considered their services in the past... we've just not decided to drop our dynip.com service... for the ~$25/year we are paying them for our wildcard domain listing, we're happy... they're located in canada...

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 6 16:10:14 2018

    On 2018 Aug 06 09:50:30, you wrote to Nelgin:

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for
    digdist.syncrho.net? Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert,
    it'll pick up the change automatically.

    I'm not sure what a CNAME is or how to do that..

    just like it is pronounced... C NAME... See Name... see that name over there and use its IP for this domain...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 6 15:25:43 2018
    Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nelgin to Nightfox on Sun Aug 05 2018 10:10 pm

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for
    digdist.syncrho.net? Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert, it'll
    pick up the change automatically.

    I'm not sure what a CNAME is or how to do that.. Might have to find a guide online or something on how to do that.

    In your DNS setup you'll usually have an A report which points to the ip address
    so it'd look something like

    digitaldigestbbs.com..IN.A.198.105.244.114

    but a CNAME refers back to another name.

    digitaldigestbbs.com..IN.CNAME.digdist.synchro.net.

    (Which actually resolves to 50.39.189.195 right now).

    SO whenever anyone looks up digitaldigestbb.com the DNS points
    to digdist.syncrho.net which points to whatever the A record
    is.

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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 6 15:26:29 2018
    Digital wrote:
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nightfox to All on Sun Aug 05 2018 04:03 pm

    Hi all,

    I was using DtDNS as a dynamic IP update service for
    digitaldistortionbbs.com, which I use for my BBS. Now that DtDNS is gone,
    does anyone know of a good alternate free dynamic DNS site that can update
    the IP address for any domain? It seems that some of the dynamic DNS
    services want to also provide a domain. I just want to periodically update
    the IP address for digitaldistortionbbs.com. It seems some dynamic IP
    services charge money; ideally it would be something free.

    It seems digitaldistortionbbs.com has the wrong IP address now, so people
    are unable to connect to my BBS using that domain. Alternately,
    digdist.synchro.net should work.

    An alternative solution would be to just make digitaldistortionbbs.com a
    CNAME
    record (not an A record) which points to digdist.synchro.net (not an IP address). That way, so long as digdist.synchro.net is correct, so will the longer domain name be.

    Now why didn't I suggest that! *rolls eyes* ;)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Mon Aug 6 14:12:31 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 04:10 pm


    On 2018 Aug 06 09:50:30, you wrote to Nelgin:

    In your DNS why not make digitaldistortionsbbs.com a CNAME for
    digdist.syncrho.net? Then whenever the BBS updates the IP on vert,
    it'll pick up the change automatically.

    I'm not sure what a CNAME is or how to do that..

    just like it is pronounced... C NAME... See Name... see that name over there and use its IP for this domain...

    Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNAME_record

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Tue Aug 7 06:43:00 2018
    On 08-06-18 09:52, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Thanks. I'll see what I can do about updating the IP address, but may take you up on that if needed.

    No probs, keep me posted. I may be very slow to reply in the next 24-48 hours, as this is the busy part of my week.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Tue Aug 7 06:53:00 2018
    On 08-06-18 09:50, Nightfox wrote to Nelgin <=-

    I'm not sure what a CNAME is or how to do that.. Might have to find a guide online or something on how to do that.

    As others have pointed out, a CNAME is simply a pointer to another domain name.
    No need to provide an example, it's already been done. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nelgin on Tue Aug 7 06:56:00 2018
    On 08-06-18 15:25, Nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

    In your DNS setup you'll usually have an A report which points to the
    ip address
    so it'd look something like

    digitaldigestbbs.com..IN.A.198.105.244.114

    but a CNAME refers back to another name

    digitaldigestbbs.com..IN.CNAME.digdist.synchro.net.

    (Which actually resolves to 50.39.189.195 right now).

    SO whenever anyone looks up digitaldigestbb.com the DNS points
    to digdist.syncrho.net which points to whatever the A record
    is.

    Yep, that'll do it. Actually, that's how the VKRadio DNS service works. If the BBS already has a hostname in the nodelist, the script that generates the zone file creates a CNAME which points to the hostname in the nodelist. It only generates an A record, if there's an IP address in the nodelist entry for a BBS.


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 6 13:59:01 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 11:54 am

    An alternative solution would be to just make digitaldistortionbbs.com a CNAME record (not an A record) which points to digdist.synchro.net (not an IP address). That way, so long as digdist.synchro.net is correct, so will the longer domain name be.

    I might just do that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Mon Aug 6 15:07:32 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 04:10 pm

    I'm not sure what a CNAME is or how to do that..

    just like it is pronounced... C NAME... See Name... see that name over there and use its IP for this domain...

    Yeah, I looked it up, and I plan to set up digdist.synchro.net as a cname for digitaldistortionbbs.com.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Mon Aug 6 15:08:42 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 06:53 am

    As others have pointed out, a CNAME is simply a pointer to another domain name.
    No need to provide an example, it's already been done. :)

    I plan to try that, as it seems like it's probably the simplest solution.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Mon Aug 6 15:11:11 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 04:03 pm

    update the IP address for digitaldistortionbbs.com. It seems some
    dynamic IP services charge money; ideally it would be something
    free.

    you do realize that you're changing DNS providers, right?

    Yes; not sure what you mean..?

    It sounds like the CMAKE solution with digdist.synchro.net may be the simplest solution, so I plan to try that.

    Nightfox

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nightfox on Mon Aug 6 20:56:18 2018

    On 2018 Aug 06 15:11:10, you wrote to me:

    update the IP address for digitaldistortionbbs.com. It seems some
    dynamic IP services charge money; ideally it would be something
    free.

    you do realize that you're changing DNS providers, right?

    Yes; not sure what you mean..?

    your domain is registered somewhere, right? you have some app to update its record, right? you're not providing your own DNS are you?

    It sounds like the CMAKE solution with digdist.synchro.net may be the simplest solution, so I plan to try that.

    CNAME but yeah... it is the easiest and you don't have to update it any more...

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Tue Aug 7 16:06:00 2018
    On 08-06-18 15:08, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I plan to try that, as it seems like it's probably the simplest
    solution.

    Yep, should work. One caveat: If you're receiving Internet email using your domain, you will need a MX record for your domain name that points to digdist.synchro.net with a low preference number, because MTAs won't deliver to a CNAME.


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Tue Aug 7 10:02:08 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 08:56 pm

    your domain is registered somewhere, right? you have some app to update its record, right? you're not providing your own DNS are you?

    Yes, my domain is registered with active-domain. I'm not sure they have any dynamic DNS update services though. I hadn't seen any mention of that on their site, but I suppose I'll have to check again..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue Aug 7 10:03:37 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 04:06 pm

    Yep, should work. One caveat: If you're receiving Internet email using your domain, you will need a MX record for your domain name that points to digdist.synchro.net with a low preference number, because MTAs won't deliver to a CNAME.

    Ah, thanks for the pointer.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue Aug 7 10:16:53 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 04:06 pm

    Yep, should work. One caveat: If you're receiving Internet email using your domain, you will need a MX record for your domain name that points to digdist.synchro.net with a low preference number, because MTAs won't deliver to a CNAME.

    When I try to add an MX record that points to digdist.synchro.net, it gives me an error saying a CNAME record exists with the same name.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue Aug 7 10:36:46 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Tue Aug 07 2018 10:16 am

    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 04:06 pm

    Yep, should work. One caveat: If you're receiving Internet email using your domain, you will need a MX record for your domain name that points to digdist.synchro.net with a low preference number, because MTAs won't deliver to a CNAME.

    When I try to add an MX record that points to digdist.synchro.net, it gives me an error saying a CNAME record exists with the same name.

    A CNAME that points to a FQDN needs to end in a '.', like so:

    digitaldistortionbbs.com CNAME digdist.synchro.net.

    If you didn't include that last '.' maybe that's the problem.

    There does seem to be a problem with your hostname now:

    $ host digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Host digitaldistortionbbs.com not found: 1(FORMERR)

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Aug 7 12:38:58 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 10:36 am

    When I try to add an MX record that points to digdist.synchro.net, it
    gives me an error saying a CNAME record exists with the same name.

    A CNAME that points to a FQDN needs to end in a '.', like so:

    digitaldistortionbbs.com CNAME digdist.synchro.net.

    If you didn't include that last '.' maybe that's the problem.

    There does seem to be a problem with your hostname now:

    $ host digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Host digitaldistortionbbs.com not found: 1(FORMERR)

    In active-domain's UI, when I try to include the last '.', it seems to be stripping that off, so it ends up as digdist.synchro.net

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue Aug 7 14:26:04 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Aug 07 2018 12:38 pm

    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 10:36 am

    When I try to add an MX record that points to digdist.synchro.net, it
    gives me an error saying a CNAME record exists with the same name.

    A CNAME that points to a FQDN needs to end in a '.', like so:

    digitaldistortionbbs.com CNAME digdist.synchro.net.

    If you didn't include that last '.' maybe that's the problem.

    There does seem to be a problem with your hostname now:

    $ host digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Host digitaldistortionbbs.com not found: 1(FORMERR)

    In active-domain's UI, when I try to include the last '.', it seems to be stripping that off, so it ends up as digdist.synchro.net

    I'm not familiar with that service. Do you have the option of editing your zone file directly? I remember back when I used to use dtdns.com they had that option. <shrug>

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 8 07:41:00 2018
    On 08-07-18 10:03, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 04:06 pm

    Yep, should work. One caveat: If you're receiving Internet email using your domain, you will need a MX record for your domain name that points to digdist.synchro.net with a low preference number, because MTAs won't deliver to a CNAME.

    Ah, thanks for the pointer.

    Yep, 2 no-nos in email.

    1. Email won't be delivered to a CNAME

    2. Pointing MX records to a CNAME is a very bad idea.

    This is a situation where you will need a MX record.

    digitaldistortionbbs.com..IN.MX.digdist.synchro.net 5


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 8 07:46:00 2018
    On 08-07-18 10:16, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 04:06 pm

    Yep, should work. One caveat: If you're receiving Internet email using your domain, you will need a MX record for your domain name that points to digdist.synchro.net with a low preference number, because MTAs won't deliver to a CNAME.

    When I try to add an MX record that points to digdist.synchro.net, it gives me an error saying a CNAME record exists with the same name.

    Looks like you have bigger issues. :(

    server 8.8.8.8
    Default Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    *** google-public-dns-a.google.com can't find digitaldistortionbbs.com: Server failed
    digdist.synchro.net
    Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    Non-authoritative answer:
    digdist.synchro.net internet address = 50.39.189.195


    Your DNS server doesn't seem to be responding. :(

    C:\Users\Tony>ping digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Ping request could not find host digitaldistortionbbs.com. Please check the
    ame
    and try again.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 8 07:55:00 2018
    On 08-07-18 10:02, Nightfox wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Yes, my domain is registered with active-domain. I'm not sure they
    have any dynamic DNS update services though. I hadn't seen any mention
    of that on their site, but I suppose I'll have to check again..

    Doesn't look too "active" here. :(

    set type=ns
    digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Server: [8.8.8.8]
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    *** [8.8.8.8] can't find digitaldistortionbbs.com: Server failed

    Can't even see where it's delegated.


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Aug 7 15:23:22 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Aug 07 2018 02:26 pm

    I'm not familiar with that service. Do you have the option of editing your zone file directly? I remember back when I used to use dtdns.com they had that option. <shrug>

    Not sure. I'd have to look and see if they allow that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue Aug 7 17:39:00 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Aug 08 2018 07:46 am

    Looks like you have bigger issues. :(

    server 8.8.8.8
    Default Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    digitaldistortionbbs.com
    Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    *** google-public-dns-a.google.com can't find digitaldistortionbbs.com: Server failed
    digdist.synchro.net
    Server: google-public-dns-a.google.com
    Address: 8.8.8.8

    Non-authoritative answer:
    digdist.synchro.net internet address = 50.39.189.195

    Your DNS server doesn't seem to be responding. :(

    I'm not sure where the 8.8.8.8 or google-public-dns-a.google.com came from. And I can connect to digdist.synchro.net remotely, so it seems digdist.synchro.net isn't having a problem. digitaldistortionbbs.com still seems to be having DNS issues though..

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 8 12:04:00 2018
    On 08-07-18 17:39, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm not sure where the 8.8.8.8 or google-public-dns-a.google.com came

    That's a public Google DNS server, that's where I'm doing the lookups.

    from. And I can connect to digdist.synchro.net remotely, so it seems digdist.synchro.net isn't having a problem. digitaldistortionbbs.com still seems to be having DNS issues though..

    Yes, your digitaldistortion.com domain seems to have no working DNS servers delegating it. :(


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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 8 02:53:37 2018
    Tony wrote:
    On 08-07-18 17:39, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm not sure where the 8.8.8.8 or google-public-dns-a.google.com came

    That's a public Google DNS server, that's where I'm doing the lookups.

    from. And I can connect to digdist.synchro.net remotely, so it seems
    digdist.synchro.net isn't having a problem. digitaldistortionbbs.com
    still seems to be having DNS issues though..

    Yes, your digitaldistortion.com domain seems to have no working DNS servers delegating it. :(

    My DNS server can handle dynamic DNS. I could maybe write a script similar
    to how DNS updates are sent to vert. I'll maybe look into it this weekend.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nelgin on Wed Aug 8 19:26:00 2018
    On 08-08-18 02:53, Nelgin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    My DNS server can handle dynamic DNS. I could maybe write a script
    similar to how DNS updates are sent to vert. I'll maybe look into it
    this weekend.

    Locally or secure remote updates?


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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 8 09:00:25 2018
    Tony wrote:
    On 08-08-18 02:53, Nelgin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    My DNS server can handle dynamic DNS. I could maybe write a script
    similar to how DNS updates are sent to vert. I'll maybe look into it
    this weekend.

    Locally or secure remote updates?

    It's be secured with an individual key or something, maybe even a simple https PUT.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Wed Aug 8 09:39:10 2018
    Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Mon Aug 06 2018 08:56 pm

    It sounds like the CMAKE solution with digdist.synchro.net may be

    CNAME but yeah... it is the easiest and you don't have to update it any more...

    I've been working with cmake (build system) at work, so I guess I had that stuck in my head. :P

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 8 09:42:06 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Aug 08 2018 12:04 pm

    Yes, your digitaldistortion.com domain seems to have no working DNS servers delegating it. :(

    It seems I got digitaldistortionbbs.com working again. I'm still having a problem adding MX records for it with digdist.synchro.net. The interface keeps giving me the error that CNAME records exist with the same name. I may have to contact support with them on that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 8 12:00:15 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Aug 08 2018 07:41 am

    This is a situation where you will need a MX record.

    digitaldistortionbbs.com.INMXdigdist.synchro.net 5

    I tried sending myself a test message from my Gmail account to my BBS email account (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and it went through, even though I don't have a MX record to point to digdist.synchro.net. I thought that's what the purpose of the MX record was for, or maybe I misunderstood?

    Nightfox

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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 8 16:17:34 2018
    Nightfox wrote:
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Aug 08 2018 07:41 am

    This is a situation where you will need a MX record.

    digitaldistortionbbs.com.INMXdigdist.synchro.net 5

    I tried sending myself a test message from my Gmail account to my BBS email account (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and it went through, even
    though I
    don't have a MX record to point to digdist.synchro.net. I thought that's
    what
    the purpose of the MX record was for, or maybe I misunderstood?

    If there is no MX record for the domain but you have an A record, or I guess a CNAME and it can resolve to an address, then the mail server should use that instead.
    An MX isn't absolutely necessary in that case.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nelgin on Thu Aug 9 07:14:00 2018
    On 08-08-18 09:00, Nelgin wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    It's be secured with an individual key or something, maybe even a
    simple https PUT.

    cool. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Thu Aug 9 07:20:00 2018
    On 08-08-18 09:42, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Aug 08 2018 12:04 pm

    Yes, your digitaldistortion.com domain seems to have no working DNS servers delegating it. :(

    It seems I got digitaldistortionbbs.com working again. I'm still
    having a problem adding MX records for it with digdist.synchro.net.
    The interface keeps giving me the error that CNAME records exist with
    the same name. I may have to contact support with them on that.

    Hmm, OK weird, but yes, I can see your hostname is back on and showing as a CNAME, which is good.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Thu Aug 9 07:24:00 2018
    On 08-08-18 12:00, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I tried sending myself a test message from my Gmail account to my BBS email account (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and it went through, even though I don't have a MX record to point to digdist.synchro.net.
    I thought that's what the purpose of the MX record was for, or maybe I misunderstood?

    Hmm, interesting. That suggests Gmail delivered to a CNAME, which is generally frowned upon.


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  • From Vk3jed@1:103/705 to Nelgin on Thu Aug 9 20:07:00 2018
    On 08-08-18 16:17, Nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

    If there is no MX record for the domain but you have an A record, or I guess a CNAME and it can resolve to an address, then the mail server should use that instead. An MX isn't absolutely necessary in that case.

    MTAs shouldn't deliver to a CNAME, unless things have changed in recent years. Back when I was running mail servers, that was considered not a good idea.


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  • From Clifra Jones@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sat Aug 11 23:53:30 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Thu Aug 09 2018 07:24 am

    On 08-08-18 12:00, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I tried sending myself a test message from my Gmail account to my
    BBS email account (nightfox@digitaldistortionbbs.com), and it went
    through, even though I don't have a MX record to point to
    digdist.synchro.net. I thought that's what the purpose of the MX
    record was for, or maybe I misunderstood?

    Hmm, interesting. That suggests Gmail delivered to a CNAME, which is generally frowned upon.


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    No, GMAIL will deliver to an A record. That is how my BBS is configured and mail works fine. I CNAME the Azure assigned DNS name to a name in my domain DNS records.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Clifra Jones on Mon Aug 13 07:39:00 2018
    On 08-11-18 23:53, Clifra Jones wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    No, GMAIL will deliver to an A record. That is how my BBS is configured and mail works fine. I CNAME the Azure assigned DNS name to a name in
    my domain DNS records.

    But we weren't talking about your BBS or delivering to A records. That is already known and is perfectly valid. In other words, not relevant to the discussion at hand.

    We're talking about mail that got delivered to digitaldistortionbbs.com, which only has a CNAME.


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  • From Clifra Jones@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Mon Aug 13 22:57:01 2018
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Clifra Jones on Mon Aug 13 2018 07:39 am

    On 08-11-18 23:53, Clifra Jones wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    No, GMAIL will deliver to an A record. That is how my BBS is
    configured and mail works fine. I CNAME the Azure assigned DNS name
    to a name in my domain DNS records.

    But we weren't talking about your BBS or delivering to A records. That is already known and is perfectly valid. In other words, not relevant to the discussion at hand.

    We're talking about mail that got delivered to digitaldistortionbbs.com, which only has a CNAME.

    Ok sorry my miss-understanding. But how can a CNAME not have an A record. The CNAME must point to something.

    Non-authoritative answer:
    digitaldistortionbbs.com canonical name = digdist.synchro.net.
    Name: digdist.synchro.net
    Address: 50.39.189.195

    IMO this should work just fine.

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  • From Nelgin@1:103/705 to Clifra Jones on Mon Aug 13 19:40:11 2018
    Clifra wrote:
    Re: Re: Dynamic DNS for any domain
    By: Tony Langdon to Clifra Jones on Mon Aug 13 2018 07:39 am

    On 08-11-18 23:53, Clifra Jones wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    No, GMAIL will deliver to an A record. That is how my BBS is
    configured and mail works fine. I CNAME the Azure assigned DNS name
    to a name in my domain DNS records.

    But we weren't talking about your BBS or delivering to A records. That is
    already known and is perfectly valid. In other words, not relevant to the
    discussion at hand.

    We're talking about mail that got delivered to digitaldistortionbbs.com,
    which only has a CNAME.

    Ok sorry my miss-understanding. But how can a CNAME not have an A record.
    The
    CNAME must point to something.

    Non-authoritative answer:
    digitaldistortionbbs.com canonical name = digdist.synchro.net.
    Name: digdist.synchro.net
    Address: 50.39.189.195

    Looking at information on the DNS system, it does state that an MX record should not be a CNAME. I didn't look further into attempting delivery
    to an address resolved to an A record via a CNAME that isn't an MX
    record.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Clifra Jones on Tue Aug 14 22:20:00 2018
    On 08-13-18 22:57, Clifra Jones wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Ok sorry my miss-understanding. But how can a CNAME not have an A
    record. The CNAME must point to something.

    You're missing the point again. From my recollections, MTAs should not deliver to the NAME in a CNAME record. They should deliver to either:

    1. A name with an A (or AAAA for IPv6 ;) ) record or

    2. A MX record that lists a valid mail relay's hostname (i.e. A or AAAA record).

    Non-authoritative answer:
    digitaldistortionbbs.com canonical name = digdist.synchro.net. Name: digdist.synchro.net
    Address: 50.39.189.195

    IMO this should work just fine.

    MTAs shouldn't do this, delivering to CNAMEs is frowned upon. There were technical reasons as to why. I'd have to fish out my old books to get the details.


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