Al wrote to Rmh <=-
Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Digital Man on Tue Jul 24 2018 01:31 pm
2. copy the UNICYBER.QWK packet as UNICYBER.REP
A *.QWK file is a QWK packet created by a BBS for a QWK message reader.
A *.REP file is a reply packet created by a reader for a BBS. it
contains new messages and replies for the BBS to import.
Don't mix the two up. :)
Digital Man wrote to Rmh <=-
Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Digital Man on Mon Jul 23 2018 07:20 pm
Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Digital Man to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 01:01 am
Uh... seems like you're wanting to use FTN for this? If so, then you'd setup the offline system as a "point node" and no, no "registere user for a particular BBS" would be involved at all (unless you opt for QWK or NNTP instead).
Yeah..
I have been also looking at that, and apparently the best is to use Multimail (https://multimail.sourceforge.io), now I would need to figure out how to download/upload the echomail + how to Configure Synchronet so it can pick the current fidonet + other mail as QWK packages.
If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional
you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages
from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.
Let's try again!!
Digital Man wrote to Rmh <=-
Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Digital Man on Mon Jul 23 2018 07:20 pm
Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Digital Man to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 01:01 am
Uh... seems like you're wanting to use FTN for this? If so, then you'd setup the offline system as a "point node" and no, no "registere user for a particular BBS" would be involved at all (unless you opt for QWK or NNTP instead).
Yeah..
I have been also looking at that, and apparently the best is to use Multimail (https://multimail.sourceforge.io), now I would need to figure out how to download/upload the echomail + how to Configure Synchronet so it can pick the current fidonet + other mail as QWK packages.
If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.
Digital Man, this is now sorted with MultiMail, and apart of doing something stupid (please, don't reply to the stupid part of another echomail) like not creating the "rep" file, all seems good from this end. really nice.
I just wonder whether is possible to FTP or maybe SCP the .rep file to a particular directory within the BBS so it the packet will be deal with?
On 07-24-18 20:13, Gonzalo Fernandez Ordas wrote to Al <=-
Argggghhhh!!!!!!!
So sorry!!
gosh!! Another thing I couldn't remember at all!!! And that has been
from a guy who was using Blue Wave and Golded 24 years ago!!
Let's try again!!
On 07-24-18 13:52, Al wrote to Gonzalo Fernandez Ordas <=-
Re: How to -- Point/Feeds --
By: Gonzalo Fernandez Ordas to Al on Tue Jul 24 2018 08:13 pm
Let's try again!!
This one looks like a QWK upload from MultiMail Mac. Looks good.
If you happen to download a Blue Wave packet the extentions will be different agian. Same rule applies. Don't mix up the BW and reply
packet!
If you happen to download a Blue Wave packet the extentions will be
different agian. Same rule applies. Don't mix up the BW and reply
packet!
Will be fun trying to get Bluewave working on a stock Synchronet BBS. Is there a door, by any chance? Maybe something that could be written in Javascript?
Let's try again!!
Hehe relearning is fun. :-)
Will be fun trying to get Bluewave working on a stock Synchronet BBS. Is there a door, by any chance? Maybe something that could be written in Javascript?
RainManHood<---
On 07-24-18 22:22, Al wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I was thinking about other BBS types that support BW like MBSE, BBBS
and Magicka. There is the BW door that George Hatchew did for 5 or 7
BBS types but Synchronet was never supported AFAIK and that project is long gone now.
An offline mail door is a complex thing and every detail of what it
does has to be done right.. Knowing that Synchronets QWK features are
only used by SBBS and SBBS utilities gives me comfort.. :)
I am not a programmer so I don't know if C, C++ or JavaScript would be best for such a project, but it looks to me like a big project that
would require the resources to complete and then maintain.
On 07-25-18 08:00, Rmh wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
And also re-learning this is not regular email as I need to wait until
I elaborate a full answer , not firing echomails all the time!!!
RainManHood<---
On 07-25-18 08:00, Rmh wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: How to -- Point/Feeds --
By: Tony Langdon to Al on Wed Jul 25 2018 12:47 pm
Will be fun trying to get Bluewave working on a stock Synchronet BBS. Is there a door, by any chance? Maybe something that could be written in Javascript?
It would ne nice to know where the source code is.
I can only find compiled versions of it...
On 07-24-18 22:22, Al wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I was thinking about other BBS types that support BW like MBSE, BBBS and Magicka. There is the BW door that George Hatchew did for 5 or 7 BBS types but Synchronet was never supported AFAIK and that project is long gone now.
I used to use the RA door back in the day.
An offline mail door is a complex thing and every detail of what it does has to be done right.. Knowing that Synchronets QWK features are only used by SBBS and SBBS utilities gives me comfort.. :)
I am not a programmer so I don't know if C, C++ or JavaScript would be best for such a project, but it looks to me like a big project that would require the resources to complete and then maintain.
DM is probably the best to say if it could be done within Synchronet's Javascript interface. That would seem to be the neatest solution, being platform independent, if it is possible.
On 07-25-18 08:26, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
It certainly possible using JS - the question is: is the BlueWave
format important enough for the effort? If someone is really in love
it, I guess they could be motivated to make a BW "door" for Synchronet
in whatever language they prefer, but C/C++ or JS would be easiest.
Will be fun trying to get Bluewave working on a stock Synchronet BBS.
Is there a door, by any chance? Maybe something that could be written
in Javascript?
It would ne nice to know where the source code is. I can only find compiled versions of it...
On 08-03-18 15:14, mark lewis wrote to Rmh <=-
BW is dead dead dead... the only existing copies of it are
precompiled... the original author was in a major car accident years ago... his brother tried to keep registration going but that also stopped... my understanding is that george died from his injuries but other documentation seems to show that he recovered and went to work
for m$... in any case, BW is dead as far as new versions go... hell,
you have to binary patch it to fix the y2k bugs in it...
mark lewis wrote to Rmh <=-
@TZ: 40f0
On 2018 Jul 25 08:00:50, you wrote to Tony Langdon:
Will be fun trying to get Bluewave working on a stock Synchronet BBS.
Is there a door, by any chance? Maybe something that could be written
in Javascript?
It would ne nice to know where the source code is. I can only find compiled versions of it...
BW is dead dead dead... the only existing copies of it are
precompiled... the original author was in a major car accident years ago... his brother tried to keep registration going but that also stopped... my understanding is that george died from his injuries but other documentation seems to show that he recovered and went to work
for m$... in any case, BW is dead as far as new versions go... hell,
you have to binary patch it to fix the y2k bugs in it...
BW is dead dead dead... the only existing copies of it are
precompiled... the original author was in a major car accident years
ago... his brother tried to keep registration going but that also
stopped... my understanding is that george died from his injuries but
other documentation seems to show that he recovered and went to work
for m$... in any case, BW is dead as far as new versions go... hell,
you have to binary patch it to fix the y2k bugs in it...
But the packet format is well documented,
and there are other readers (e.g. Multimail) that support the BW
format.
While QWKE goes a long way to addressing QWK's shortcomings, I haven't seen a better offline format for posting netmail.
Will be fun trying to get Bluewave working on a stock Synchronet
BBS. Is there a door, by any chance? Maybe something that could be
written in Javascript?
It would ne nice to know where the source code is. I can only find
compiled versions of it...
BW is dead dead dead... the only existing copies of it are
precompiled... the original author was in a major car accident years
ago... his brother tried to keep registration going but that also
stopped... my understanding is that george died from his injuries but
other documentation seems to show that he recovered and went to work
for m$... in any case, BW is dead as far as new versions go... hell,
you have to binary patch it to fix the y2k bugs in it...
Mate, that really breaks my heart of he died from his injuries. That
guy produced a piece of soft that really made a significant change in
my life back in the 90s. It would be nice to hear what really happened with him....
yeah, I saw the binary patch...
On 08-04-18 16:39, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
But the packet format is well documented,
true
and there are other readers (e.g. Multimail) that support the BW
format.
also true... but BlueWave, the software, is dead...
i still much prefer points for FTN operations but that doesn't help
with situations like yours where you want to read the same message
bases from different devices without having to copy it all over the
place... that would require something like a dedicated user terminal
for a BBS... possibly using a special comms protocol to send input to
the BBS and receive output from the BBS... this is akin to the old days
with RIP graphics and the other similar graphical BBSes that required their own pretty much dedicated terminal... i hate to say it, too, but
it fits right in with today's muck about having dedicated apps for everything... so an app for this BBS, an app for that BBS, an app for every BBS... they all get apps! yuck!
mark lewis wrote to Rmh <=-
@TZ: 40f0
On 2018 Aug 04 15:53:00, you wrote to me:
Mate, that really breaks my heart of he died from his injuries. That
guy produced a piece of soft that really made a significant change in
my life back in the 90s. It would be nice to hear what really happened with him....
have you read this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Wave
yeah, I saw the binary patch...
good... i've successfully applied the patch, manually, to several of
the BW doors and readers... the OS/2 flavors did not contain the same
code since it was compiled with a different compiler and used a
different date/time library... i did that several years back as an experiment and the ones i was able to actually test seemed to work
fine... i cleaned up all of that testing when i was done with it, though...
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