People,


I got a very basic question to which I would need just someone pointing me into the right Documentation if there is any document about how to in SYnchronet??

I am trying to pick up the echomails in a ofline mode from my Laptop...

So, I already golt everything running, (golDED, binkp..etc...) Currently I log into the BBS no problem, I can see the logs and all good. But I am not sure , from a Synchronet point of view how to create/prepare/schedule the echomail packages for that user, how to do that.


I guess being a registered user for a particular bbs should be enough? WHich should I do from here?


I have been looking around, trying to find some documentation but I haven't been too successful so far..


Many thanks

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On 07-22-18 06:50, Rmh wrote to All <=-

People,

I got a very basic question to which I would need just someone pointing
me into the right Documentation if there is any document about how to
in SYnchronet??

I am trying to pick up the echomails in a ofline mode from my Laptop...

Sounds like you're trying to setup a point.

So, I already golt everything running, (golDED, binkp..etc...)
Currently I log into the BBS no problem, I can see the logs and all
good. But I am not sure , from a Synchronet point of view how to create/prepare/schedule the echomail packages for that user, how to do that.

I guess being a registered user for a particular bbs should be enough? WHich should I do from here?

No, a point, while "officially" (at least in Fidonet) is considered a "user" of the BBS, technically, it is basically the same as a full blown network node, except that it may not have a user interface like that of a BBS (but many points do). So you need to dive into FTN networking. There is info on ther Synchronet wiki on how to set it up. Technology wise, a point is basically another node, just that it has an address the same as its "boss node" (the main BBS), except that the address has a point number added. For example, I have the BBS node 3:633/410 (this system on Fidonet), but I also have a point 3:633/410.1, which is for my mail bot. :)

I have been looking around, trying to find some documentation but I haven't been too successful so far..

Of course, there's another, often simpler way to read mail offline - QWK or Bluewave with an offline reader.
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Re: Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Tony Langdon to Rmh on Sun Jul 22 2018 09:38 pm

I got a very basic question to which I would need just someone
pointing me into the right Documentation if there is any document
about how to in SYnchronet??

I am trying to pick up the echomails in a ofline mode from my
Laptop...

Sounds like you're trying to setup a point.

I agree.... it sounds like that..

I haven't done this stuff in more than 24 years, also We used to do it in a completely different way, so a full blown discovery again!

No, a point, while "officially" (at least in Fidonet) is considered a "user" of the BBS, technically, it is basically the same as a full blown network node, except that it may not have a user interface like that of a BBS (but many points do). So you need to dive into FTN networking. There is info on ther Synchronet wiki on how to set it up. Technology wise, a point is basically another node, just that it has an address the same as its "boss node" (the main BBS), except that the address has a point number added. For example, I have the BBS node 3:633/410 (this system on Fidonet), but I also have a point 3:633/410.1, which is for my mail bot. :)

aha!! So from a Synchronet point of view I need I need to setup a point.
I just need to gather some more details on how to do that for Synchronet, and I am sure I also need to update the Fidonet list !

Of course, there's another, often simpler way to read mail offline - QWK or Bluewave with an offline reader.

aha!! Bluewave!! I have forgotten that one and I was using it long time ago!! Another one to look at!//

Many thanks Tony!

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On 07-22-18 14:05, Rmh wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Sounds like you're trying to setup a point.

I agree.... it sounds like that..

I haven't done this stuff in more than 24 years, also We used to do it
in a completely different way, so a full blown discovery again!

It comes back pretty quickly! :)

aha!! So from a Synchronet point of view I need I need to setup a
point. I just need to gather some more details on how to do that for Synchronet, and I am sure I also need to update the Fidonet list !

From a Synchronet point of view, you're setting up a FTN link between two nodes, one just happens to have a point address rather than a full node address, so you need to read up on FTN networking. There are articles in the wiki. The main nareas you need to pay attention to are in scfg -> Networks -> Fidonet Echomail and Netmail, as well as echocfg (which configures both your tosser (sbbsecho) and nmailer (BinkIT).

The beauty of Synchronet (and some other modern BBS packages) is you have everything you need to run a full blown Fidonet node or point. :)

Of course, there's another, often simpler way to read mail offline - QWK or Bluewave with an offline reader.

aha!! Bluewave!! I have forgotten that one and I was using it long time ago!! Another one to look at!//

What software does your intended boss node (the BBS you're wanting to be a point of) run? Seems most modern software (Synchronet, Mystic, Magicka and others) offer some form of offline mail (usually QWK) out of the box. And for a QWK reader, Multimail is available for modern platforms. I'm running the native 64 bit Windows version of Multimail now (I access my BBSs as an offline mail user). My Linux box also has Multimail installed. The reason I went with offline mail, rather than a point is that I have consistent last read pointers, regardless of what device I use for offline mail.

Currently, there's no great solutions for mobile reading of offline packets, though I have managed to setup Bluewave and Telix in Magic DOSBox on my Android phone. :)


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Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to All on Sun Jul 22 2018 06:50 am

People,

I got a very basic question to which I would need just someone pointing me into the right Documentation if there is any document about how to in SYnchronet??

I am trying to pick up the echomails in a ofline mode from my Laptop...

The easiest way would be to use an NNTP read or or QWK offline reader.

So, I already golt everything running, (golDED, binkp..etc...)
Currently I log into the BBS no problem, I can see the logs and all good. But I am not sure , from a Synchronet point of view how to create/prepare/schedule the echomail packages for that user, how to do that.

I guess being a registered user for a particular bbs should be enough?
WHich should I do from here?

I have been looking around, trying to find some documentation but I haven't been too successful so far..

Uh... seems like you're wanting to use FTN for this? If so, then you'd setup the offline system as a "point node" and no, no "registere user for a particular BBS" would be involved at all (unless you opt for QWK or NNTP instead).

digital man

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Re: Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Tony Langdon to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 08:44 am

From a Synchronet point of view, you're setting up a FTN link between two nodes, one just happens to have a point address rather than a full node address, so you need to read up on FTN networking. There are articles in the wiki. The main nareas you need to pay attention to are in scfg -> Networks -> Fidonet Echomail and Netmail, as well as echocfg (which configures both your tosser (sbbsecho) and nmailer (BinkIT).

I am currently trying to figure out how to put all that together on Synchronet...
To setup a Node, it's not a huge problem. Different story to create a point linking other nodes where to pick up the Echos from. So I got lot of questiosn there..

What software does your intended boss node (the BBS you're wanting to be a point of) run? Seems most modern software (Synchronet, Mystic, Magicka and others) offer some form of offline mail (usually QWK) out of the box. And for a QWK reader, Multimail is available for modern platforms. I'm running the native 64 bit Windows version of Multimail now (I access my BBSs as an offline mail user). My Linux box also has Multimail installed. The reason I went with offline mail, rather than a point is that I have consistent last read pointers, regardless of what device I use for offline mail.

I am currently configuring a bundle called: fidoip: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fidoip/

It got:
* Hisky (first time I hear about this one)
* binkd
* golDED

At the present I managed to get binkd running, it manages to reach my BBS correctly, and GolDED does the offline mail reader, but I am failing to send anything over. Also not doing well collecting anything from my BBS yet, I haven't configured that correctly yet...

I would probably need a QWK reader as MultiMail on top of it, so I can read for example all this echo(es) from Dove-Net.

I still got lot of to figure out...

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Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Digital Man to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 01:01 am

Uh... seems like you're wanting to use FTN for this? If so, then you'd setup the offline system as a "point node" and no, no "registere user for a particular BBS" would be involved at all (unless you opt for QWK or NNTP instead).

Yeah..

I have been also looking at that, and apparently the best is to use Multimail (https://multimail.sourceforge.io), now I would need to figure out how to download/upload the echomail + how to Configure Synchronet so it can pick the current fidonet + other mail as QWK packages.

Still trying to gather all information around I can..


Very much appreciated Digital Man.

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Re: Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Tony Langdon on Mon Jul 23 2018 06:40 am

It got:
* Hisky (first time I hear about this one)
* binkd
* golDED

At the present I managed to get binkd running, it manages to reach my BBS correctly, and GolDED does the offline mail reader, but I am failing to send anything over. Also not doing well collecting anything from my BBS yet, I haven't configured that correctly yet...

Simply using an NNTP reader or QWK offline reader would be *much* easier.

I would probably need a QWK reader as MultiMail on top of it, so I can read for example all this echo(es) from Dove-Net.

No, you don't need both. A pointer node or QWK reader or NNTP reader can access *all* of the Synchronet sub-boards. You only need *one*.

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Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Digital Man on Mon Jul 23 2018 07:20 pm

Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Digital Man to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 01:01 am

Uh... seems like you're wanting to use FTN for this? If so, then you'd setup the offline system as a "point node" and no, no "registere user for a particular BBS" would be involved at all (unless you opt for QWK or NNTP instead).

Yeah..

I have been also looking at that, and apparently the best is to use Multimail (https://multimail.sourceforge.io), now I would need to figure out how to download/upload the echomail + how to Configure Synchronet so it can pick the current fidonet + other mail as QWK packages.

If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.

digital man

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On 07-23-18 06:40, Rmh wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

I am currently trying to figure out how to put all that together on Synchronet...
To setup a Node, it's not a huge problem. Different story to create a point linking other nodes where to pick up the Echos from. So I got lot
of questiosn there..

Hmm, some confusion there. A node is a network connection. A point is a special case of a node, but uses exactly the same technology.

Now, do you have any previous experience with Fidonet technology? Reason I ask is many who come to BBSing today were sysops from the 80s and 90s, when the same technology was used. Today the packages are a bit more streamlined, but the networking technology is the same.

I am currently configuring a bundle called: fidoip: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fidoip/

It got:
* Hisky (first time I hear about this one)
* binkd
* golDED

Don't know it myself, but sounds like a very capable point system. Previously, you made it sound like Synchronet was the point, but it looks like Synchronet is the boss node, with FidoIP as the point. That does make sense. Do you have a Fidonet node number for your BBS?

At the present I managed to get binkd running, it manages to reach my
BBS correctly, and GolDED does the offline mail reader, but I am
failing to send anything over. Also not doing well collecting anything from my BBS yet, I haven't configured that correctly yet...

What do you have setup on each end? what are your addresses? There's a lot of detail missing to help.

I would probably need a QWK reader as MultiMail on top of it, so I can read for example all this echo(es) from Dove-Net.

I have a couple of very important questions:

1. What is your ultimate goal here. Is it to read mail offline? Or is it to learn more about Fidonet technology, and run the point as an exercise?

The reason I'm asking is because you can have offline mail very easily, without needing a point, so if all you want is offline mail, you simply have to:

Download Multimail and configure it to look for QWK packets in your terminal program's download directory and place replies in the terminal program's upload directory.

Next, log into your BBS, go to the QWK menu. There, you can select what message areas you want to read (you only need to do this once). and there's also options to configure the mail packet - I'd leave those alone, except turn on the QWKE extensions.

Now you can download your QWK packet.

At this point, log off, open Multimail and look for the QWK packet. Open it, and you can read your mail and compose replies. When you're done, close the packet, log back into the BBS, go back to the QWK menu and upload the .REP packet. Job done!

However, if your ultimate goal is to learn about Fido networking and running a point system, then there's no way to do that other than to proceed with setting up the point. :)


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On 07-23-18 13:51, Digital Man wrote to Rmh <=-

No, you don't need both. A pointer node or QWK reader or NNTP reader
can access *all* of the Synchronet sub-boards. You only need *one*.

I think there's a bit getting lost in translation. But for a basic offline mail scenario, I concur, QWK or NNTP are the easiest options. I like thw QWK option myself, using it right now. :)

So let's take a step back and without discussing any particular technology, Rmh needs to tell us exactly what he's trying to achieve, a statement like:

"I want to be able to read mail from my BBS offline"

or

"I have 3 or 4 devices and want to be able to read my BBS mail on them"

or

"This technology is cool, I want to setup a point so I understand how the networking works".


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On 07-23-18 13:58, Digital Man wrote to Rmh <=-

If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional
you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages
from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.

Works for me. :) Only minor wrinkle with QWK is it's not possible to compose a netmail or email from QWK, except as a reply, because unless there is a message in the email area, it doesn't appear in the area list when composing in QWK.


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Re: Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Tue Jul 24 2018 07:44 pm

On 07-23-18 13:58, Digital Man wrote to Rmh <=-

If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.

Works for me. :) Only minor wrinkle with QWK is it's not possible to compose a netmail or email from QWK, except as a reply, because unless there is a message in the email area, it doesn't appear in the area list when composing in QWK.

That depends on your reader. The QWK offline readers I used in the past (SLMR, OLX) showed "empty" areas so long as they were present in the CONTROL.DAT file.

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On 07-24-18 04:20, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

That depends on your reader. The QWK offline readers I used in the past (SLMR, OLX) showed "empty" areas so long as they were present in the CONTROL.DAT file.

Multimail shows every area, except email when they're empty.


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Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Digital Man to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 01:58 pm

If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.

Ok... So I decided to go for Multimail as offline reader.

it does the job nicely.

I also realised if I got the FTP server from synchronet running I can fownload the QWK package from there as: ftp://user@pwd@bbs.dns/filename.qwk (it would be insane if I could also upload it back without the need of using the BBS for the
uploading process.. Maybe a defined directory where I could place it and certains events/scripts take over it...
Digital man? is possible to process the QWK file manually?? Maybe to create an event and running that task could do it..)

From another hand, I am trying (30 times already..) to upload the packet once I have written my offline replies.
So done the following:
1. mmail oveer the UNICYBER.QWK packet (all good here)
2. copy the UNICYBER.QWK packet as UNICYBER.REP
3. BBS ---> ! ---> QWK ---> Upload ---> ZMODEM (waiting..waiting...) Selecting the UNICYBER.REP file.
4. issues at this point:

Jul 24 13:17:02 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:02 term !Receive timeout (0 seconds)
Jul 24 13:17:03 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:03 term !Receive timeout (0 seconds)
Jul 24 13:17:04 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:04 term !Receive timeout (0 seconds)
Jul 24 13:17:04 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:04 term !recv_init: Received 0 instead of ZFILE or ZFIN
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 executing external: unzip -Cojqq /sbbs/node1/temp/UNICYBER.rep * -d /sbbs/node1/temp/
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 executing external: unzip -Cojqq /sbbs/node1/temp/UNICYBER.rep * -d /sbbs/node1/temp/
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 Attempted to upload REP packet
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 MSG file not received


But the terminal windows says the file has been uploaded but not response received.


Start transfer now (Ctrl-X to abort):

Upload Zmodem
UNICYBER.REP (5.65 MB, 0:41 min = 141.1 KB/sec)


Maybe I have missed anything out of the whole process?

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Re: Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Tue Jul 24 2018 07:42 pm

"I want to be able to read mail from my BBS offline"

or

"I have 3 or 4 devices and want to be able to read my BBS mail on them"

or

"This technology is cool, I want to setup a point so I understand how the networking works".

Ok..... So for start, I am just trying to get the echomail so I can read it/reply offline.

So, from here, I ahve decided to use Multimail which seems working well, but I got some issue trying to upload the new package. (I replied back a few minutes ago to Digital Man about it as when I chose ZMODEM the file gets uploaded but the logs say:
Jul 24 13:17:02 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:02 term !Receive timeout (0 seconds)
Jul 24 13:17:03 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:03 term !Receive timeout (0 seconds)
Jul 24 13:17:04 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:04 term !Receive timeout (0 seconds)
Jul 24 13:17:04 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:04 term !recv_init: Received 0 instead of ZFILE or ZFIN
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 executing external: unzip -Cojqq /sbbs/node1/temp/UNICYBER.rep * -d /sbbs/node1/temp/
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 executing external: unzip -Cojqq /sbbs/node1/temp/UNICYBER.rep * -d /sbbs/node1/temp/
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 Attempted to upload REP packet
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 MSG file not received


..

About Fido Point.. .I will look into that in another moment. Agreed I will go slowly into this..

many thanks Tony.

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Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Digital Man on Tue Jul 24 2018 01:31 pm

2. copy the UNICYBER.QWK packet as UNICYBER.REP

A *.QWK file is a QWK packet created by a BBS for a QWK message reader. A *.REP file is a reply packet created by a reader for a BBS. it contains new messages and replies for the BBS to import.

Don't mix the two up. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Rmh to Digital Man on Tue Jul 24 2018 01:31 pm

Re: How to -- Point/Feeds -- Offline Echomail
By: Digital Man to Rmh on Mon Jul 23 2018 01:58 pm

If you use a QWK offline reader, there should be *nothing* additional you need to do on the BBS side. Using a QWK offline reader (or an NNTP reader) you should immediately be able to download/upload messages from/to *all* the sub-boards on the BBS.

Ok... So I decided to go for Multimail as offline reader.

it does the job nicely.

I also realised if I got the FTP server from synchronet running I can fownload the QWK package from there as: ftp://user@pwd@bbs.dns/filename.qwk (it would be insane if I could also upload it back without the need of using the BBS for the
uploading process.. Maybe a defined directory where I could place it and certains events/scripts take over it...

If you upload the .REP file to the FTP root directory (logged in as the user), the BBS will process it automatically.

Digital man? is possible to process the QWK file manually?? Maybe to create an event and running that task could do it..)

You can just copy the .REP file to your data/file directory and name it <usernumber>.REP (e.g. "1.REP" for user #1), if you have access to the BBS's local filesystem.

From another hand, I am trying (30 times already..) to upload the packet once I have written my offline replies.
So done the following:
1. mmail oveer the UNICYBER.QWK packet (all good here)
2. copy the UNICYBER.QWK packet as UNICYBER.REP

What? No, don't do that. .QWK and .REP files are differnet format. The .QWK is for messages *from* the BBS and the .REP is a reply-packet created by the offline mailer. They are not the same format and are not inter-changeable.

3. BBS ---> ! ---> QWK ---> Upload ---> ZMODEM (waiting..waiting...) Selecting the UNICYBER.REP file.
4. issues at this point:

Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 Attempted to upload REP packet
Jul 24 13:17:45 34819 sbbs: 7/24 13:17:45 term Node 1 MSG file not received

This is because of your renaming the .QWK to .REP and uploading that file. Don't do that.

Maybe I have missed anything out of the whole process?

Upload the .REP packet created by the offline mailer.

digital man

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On 07-24-18 13:34, Rmh wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Ok..... So for start, I am just trying to get the echomail so I can
read it/reply offline.

So, from here, I ahve decided to use Multimail which seems working

Yes, that's a good choice.

well, but I got some issue trying to upload the new package. (I replied back a few minutes ago to Digital Man about it as when I chose ZMODEM
the file gets uploaded but the logs say:

Hmm OK, what terminal program are you using to upload?

..

About Fido Point.. .I will look into that in another moment. Agreed I
will go slowly into this..

Yep, there's a bit to learn about FTN networking, then it will start to make more sense. :)


... And, best of all, Fido people are the best of all!
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On 07-24-18 13:31, Rmh wrote to Digital Man <=-

I also realised if I got the FTP server from synchronet running I can fownload the QWK package from there as: ftp://user@pwd@bbs.dns/filename.qwk (it would be insane if I could also upload it back without the need of using the BBS for the

You can upload the .REP file back to the BBS via FTP. I do this from my Android phone, because there's an issue with Magic DOSBox and/or Telix that affects uploads. Just upload the <BBSNAME>.REP when you log in via FTP.

uploading process.. Maybe a defined directory where I could place it
and certains events/scripts take over it...
Digital man? is possible to process the QWK file manually?? Maybe to create an event and running that task could do it..)

From another hand, I am trying (30 times already..) to upload the
packet once I have written my offline replies.
So done the following:
1. mmail oveer the UNICYBER.QWK packet (all good here)
2. copy the UNICYBER.QWK packet as UNICYBER.REP

NO! The QWK packet is for incoming mail. Multimail will generate the .REP with your replies, when you close the QWK packet. Where this .REP packet is depends on your path settings in Multimail. I think Multimail defaults to having separate inbound and outbound directories, but I prefer to have just the one path for both in and out, so I set my terminal software (usually SyncTerm) and Multimail to use the one path for uploads and downloads.




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