• Translation

    From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to All on Tue May 1 14:59:21 2018
    Hello all, Especially developers..


    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some translation api that would translate messages from one language to another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be implemented.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Tue May 1 15:03:31 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to All on Tue May 01 2018 02:59 pm

    Hello all, Especially developers..


    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some translation api that would translate messages from one language to another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be implemented.

    Yup. A custom message reader, like Nightfox's, would probably be a good starting point for something like that.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #92:
    Digital Man's manifesto from '96: http://wiki.synchro.net/history:manifesto Norco, CA WX: 52.3oF, 90.0% humidity, 0 mph SSW wind, 0.05 inches rain/24hrs --- SBBSecho 3.04-Linux
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to KK4QBN on Tue May 1 18:07:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to All on 05-01-18 14:59 <=-

    Hello all, Especially developers..


    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure there
    are some JS libs out that would do this that could be implemented.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    I'll be working on that but I'm sure there would be a need to use console.getstr() whre you type or c&p the phrase. First I'm doing horoscopes... :)


    --

    Bill

    Telnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121
    IRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697
    Radio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/live


    ... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50
    * Origin: TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJ (1:266/404)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Tue May 1 15:26:42 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to All on Tue May 01 2018 02:59 pm

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some translation api that would translate messages from one language to another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be implemented.

    I've had the same thought myself.. Would be interesting, but there may be some issues as well. There should be an option to view the original message in case it doesn't detect the original language, etc..

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 08:20:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to All <=-

    Hello all, Especially developers..


    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure there
    are some JS libs out that would do this that could be implemented.

    I suspect services like Google Translate have an API that Javascript could use.


    ... Cats are purrfect
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue May 1 17:31:07 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 08:20 am

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure
    there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be
    implemented.

    I suspect services like Google Translate have an API that Javascript could use.

    I believe so. I had started looking into it some time ago, and it seemed
    like many translation services have a limit on the amount of translations you can do per month unless you pay a subscription fee.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue May 1 21:32:36 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Tue May 01 2018 15:03:31

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure there
    are some JS libs out that would do this that could be implemented.

    Yup. A custom message reader, like Nightfox's, would probably be a good starting point for something like that.

    YEah, it would right. Nightfox, do you thing this would be something beyond you ability.. it would be a cool feature.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Bill McGarrity on Tue May 1 21:33:57 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Bill McGarrity to KK4QBN on Tue May 01 2018 18:07:00


    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure
    there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be
    implemented.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    I'll be working on that but I'm sure there would be a need to use console.getstr() whre you type or c&p the phrase. First I'm doing horoscopes... :)

    Cool, would be a nice feature to have.. I've thought about it before.. but it come to mind again when the poster came in posting his messages both in french and english.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue May 1 21:35:54 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Tue May 01 2018 15:26:42

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure
    there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be
    implemented.

    I've had the same thought myself.. Would be interesting, but there may be some issues as well. There should be an option to view the original message in case it doesn't detect the original language, etc..

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in translation, facebooks translation does pretty good, but when speaking about techinical issues like ham radio, electronics, and of course the BBS, I could see a lot that would give issues.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue May 1 21:36:23 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 08:20:00

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure
    there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be
    implemented.

    I suspect services like Google Translate have an API that Javascript could use.

    That was my main suspect :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue May 1 21:38:10 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Tue May 01 2018 17:31:07

    I believe so. I had started looking into it some time ago, and it seemed like many translation services have a limit on the amount of translations you can do per month unless you pay a subscription fee.


    well, if every sysop had their own access to the api and their own key, maybe it would work close to how the SyncWX remix works, because the free version of the api has a limit also, and I'm sure there would'nt be that many requests per sysop/system.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed May 2 13:48:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I suspect services like Google Translate have an API that Javascript could use.

    I believe so. I had started looking into it some time ago, and it
    seemed like many translation services have a limit on the amount of translations you can do per month unless you pay a subscription fee.

    Yes, that all makes sense.


    ... They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist...
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 13:48:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I suspect services like Google Translate have an API that Javascript could use.

    That was my main suspect :)

    Yeah, is Babelfish still around?


    ... I was in Chicago once. Blew me away.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 14:02:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in
    translation, facebooks translation does pretty good, but when speaking about techinical issues like ham radio, electronics, and of course the BBS, I could see a lot that would give issues.

    I've found Facebook and Google translations usually do well enough for one to get the gist, even on difficult technical material. Sure, the grammar is often a bit dodgy, but it usually suffices.


    ... It requires a very unusual mind to make an analysis of the obvious.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 14:03:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    well, if every sysop had their own access to the api and their own key, maybe it would work close to how the SyncWX remix works, because the
    free version of the api has a limit also, and I'm sure there would'nt
    be that many requests per sysop/system.

    Yes, each sysop would need to arrange their own API access.


    ... Crayons can take you more places than starships. * Guinan
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed May 2 07:48:06 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 13:48:00

    I suspect services like Google Translate have an API that Javascript
    could use.

    That was my main suspect :)

    Yeah, is Babelfish still around?

    I'm just guessing here.. but I believe google, fb, etc has purchased all that crap.. nuiance babelfish, etc.. just spitballing here.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed May 2 07:50:15 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 14:02:00

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in
    translation, facebooks translation does pretty good, but when
    speaking about techinical issues like ham radio, electronics, and of
    course the BBS, I could see a lot that would give issues.

    I've found Facebook and Google translations usually do well enough for one to get the gist, even on difficult technical material. Sure, the grammar is often a bit dodgy, but it usually suffices.

    most of the time I have no issues with it either.. I cannot "speak" any one language, but can listen to just about any language and understand some.. especially all the ones that have derived from latin.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 09:35:24 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Tue May 01 2018 09:35 pm

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to

    I've had the same thought myself.. Would be interesting, but there
    may be some issues as well. There should be an option to view the
    original message in case it doesn't detect the original language,
    etc..

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in translation, facebooks translation does pretty good, but when speaking about techinical issues like ham radio, electronics, and of course the BBS, I could see a lot that would give issues.

    A lot does get lost in translation, and honestly I'm not sure an online translation site would help.. Particularly when talking about technical things, an automatic translator would probably generate nonsense fairly often and might not be very useful..

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 09:36:21 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Tue May 01 2018 09:38 pm

    I believe so. I had started looking into it some time ago, and it
    seemed like many translation services have a limit on the amount of
    translations you can do per month unless you pay a subscription fee.

    well, if every sysop had their own access to the api and their own key, maybe it would work close to how the SyncWX remix works, because the free version of the api has a limit also, and I'm sure there would'nt be that many requests per sysop/system.

    It wouldn't be something that would happen just once per login though. A BBS could potentially have users reading many messages, and I could see the limit running out before the end of the month.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 09:43:26 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Tue May 01 2018 09:32 pm

    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to

    Yup. A custom message reader, like Nightfox's, would probably be a
    good starting point for something like that.

    YEah, it would right. Nightfox, do you thing this would be something beyond you ability.. it would be a cool feature.

    I had actually thought about it several years ago, and I'm sure I could add it. It's something I've thought about for a while. I'm wondering if I'd have the time now to do something like that.. My time for such things is more limited these days. Just the UI updates for something like that could take some time.

    One thing I was thinking about is that if a user chooses to translate into a particular language, they would probably prefer to reply in that language, and thus their reply should probably be translated back into the original language. For instance, suppose the messages are in English but the user decides to have them translated into French, and the user writes his/her reply in French.
    The problem is that message editors are something separate from my reader, and my reader knows nothing about the message editor that the user is using. There would ideally need to be a way to intercept the message as it's saved so it could be translated back into the other language before it's saved. I don't think that's feasable.. But after a reply has been made, my message reader could probably check to see if a new message has been added, and then ensure it's a reply from that user, and then post a new translated message (probably deleting their original reply).

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Bill McGarrity@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 12:50:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Bill McGarrity on 05-01-18 21:33 <=-

    Re: Translation
    By: Bill McGarrity to KK4QBN on Tue May 01 2018 18:07:00


    Wonder if there was a way that synchronet could tap into some
    translation api that would translate messages from one language to
    another by using an option at the read message prompt? I'm sure
    there are some JS libs out that would do this that could be
    implemented.


    I'll be working on that but I'm sure there would be a need to use console.getstr() whre you type or c&p the phrase. First I'm doing horoscopes... :)

    Cool, would be a nice feature to have.. I've thought about it before..
    but it come to mind again when the poster came in posting his messages both in french and english.

    Well, I'm not at the stage where I could possibly do it within the message base but as a extended program, I can't see why not. Just have to work with a translation site somewhere.


    --

    Bill

    Telnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121
    IRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697
    Radio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/live


    ... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50
    * Synchronet * TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJ
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 14:31:00 2018
    Tim,

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in translation,

    That's like the joke where such a sign in a foreign hotel translates
    in English to "Guests are invited to take advantage of the chambermaid".
    Where do I sign up?? <BG>

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Bulldozers: People who sleep through political speeches.
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 12:50:42 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 09:43 am

    One thing I was thinking about is that if a user chooses to translate into a particular language, they would probably prefer to reply in that language, and thus their reply should probably be translated back into the original language. For instance, suppose the messages are in English but the user decides to have them translated into French, and the user writes his/her reply in French.

    I was thinking about this further, and I'm wondering if perhaps that would not be so much of a problem. If the reader is simply set to translate all messages into a certain language (I'm thinking by the user's choice), then it wouldn't necessarily matter what language people post in, it would just get translated into a language that the reader can read.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 07:27:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm just guessing here.. but I believe google, fb, etc has purchased
    all that crap.. nuiance babelfish, etc.. just spitballing here.

    You're probably right - the Babelfish has been swallowed by the Google shark or the Facebook whale, so to speak. Sounds very plausible. :)


    ... The older you get, the more important is is not to act your age.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 07:29:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    most of the time I have no issues with it either.. I cannot "speak" any one language, but can listen to just about any language and understand some.. especially all the ones that have derived from latin.

    I can pick out the occasional word from German, Spanish, French and Italian, but certainly fer from being able to understand it. In written form, I can often recognise a language, even if I don't understand a word. Each language has its own look and rhythm when written down.


    ... Illiteratets of the wlord. Untie!
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed May 2 16:14:40 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 07:27 am

    You're probably right - the Babelfish has been swallowed by the Google shark or the Facebook whale, so to speak. Sounds very plausible. :)

    I remember Altavista owning it some time ago - I used to use babelfish.altavista.com. I thought it had been bought out by Yahoo. Now it looks like there's just a www.babelfish.com that does translations.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed May 2 21:25:25 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 09:35:24

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in
    translation, facebooks translation does pretty good, but when
    speaking about techinical issues like ham radio, electronics, and
    of course the BBS, I could see a lot that would give issues.

    A lot does get lost in translation, and honestly I'm not sure an online translation site would help.. Particularly when talking about technical things, an automatic translator would probably generate nonsense fairly often and might not be very useful..

    Yeah, after thinking more and more about it, I agree.. I frequent a lot of amateur radio FB groups and theres times when total gibberish is passed by the translation matrix, so yea... there's that.. guess it would be good for maybe a general area, or even maybe an area setup specifically for translated speaking.

    It's possible it could be helpful at times, but would more than likely ne a nuisence.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed May 2 21:28:10 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 09:36:21

    It wouldn't be something that would happen just once per login though. A BBS could potentially have users reading many messages, and I could see the limit running out before the end of the month.

    Hows that? if one is sitting at a read message prompt of a spanish language message they could hit (t) or something to translate, it would translate on the fly via http or some other method and present the translated message. as dm stated it may be better for an external reader/editor instead of the sbbs message interface.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed May 2 21:29:38 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 09:43:26

    One thing I was thinking about is that if a user chooses to translate into a particular language, they would probably prefer to reply in that language, and thus their reply should probably be translated back into the original language. For instance, suppose the messages are in English but the user decides to have them translated into French, and the user writes his/her reply in French. The problem is that message editors are something separate from my reader, and my reader knows nothing about the message editor that the user is using. There would ideally need to be a way to intercept the message as it's saved so it could be translated back into the other language before it's saved. I don't think that's feasable.. But after a reply has been made, my message reader could probably check to see if a new message has been added, and then ensure it's a reply from that user, and then post a new translated message (probably deleting their original reply).

    Yeah, understood.. really seems more trouble than its worth :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Bill McGarrity on Wed May 2 21:32:04 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Bill McGarrity to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 12:50:00

    Well, I'm not at the stage where I could possibly do it within the message base but as a extended program, I can't see why not. Just have to work with a translation site somewhere.

    Yeah, thats where I would def have issues, when it comes to apis, etc.. I'm no help whatsoever.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Wed May 2 21:33:26 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 14:31:00

    Tim,

    Yeah, most def. because as we all know a lot can get lost in
    translation,

    That's like the joke where such a sign in a foreign hotel translates
    in English to "Guests are invited to take advantage of the chambermaid". Where do I sign up?? <BG>

    Haha.. I remember when Beijeng was getting ready for the Olympics and some of the Chingrish that was posted was just outrageous and lol funny..

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wed May 2 21:38:06 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 12:50:42

    I was thinking about this further, and I'm wondering if perhaps that would not be so much of a problem. If the reader is simply set to translate all messages into a certain language (I'm thinking by the user's choice), then it wouldn't necessarily matter what language people post in, it would just get translated into a language that the reader can read.


    So it will process ALL incoming messages and not just ones a user would select? if 98% of the messages come through as english and the program threw them at the translation engine, would that cause some issues down the road? speed, overusage of api, etc.?

    I dunno, I'm pretty much just spitballing here.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed May 2 21:39:52 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 07:29:00

    most of the time I have no issues with it either.. I cannot "speak"
    any one language, but can listen to just about any language and
    understand some.. especially all the ones that have derived from
    latin.

    I can pick out the occasional word from German, Spanish, French and Italian, but certainly fer from being able to understand it. In written form, I can often recognise a language, even if I don't understand a word. Each language has its own look and rhythm when written down.

    I'm the complete opposite, I can hear it, but would not be able to read it. (for the most part).

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From echicken@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Wed May 2 22:51:01 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed May 02 2018 21:38:06

    I dunno, I'm pretty much just spitballing here.

    FWIW I'm only weighing in to do the same. I don't know if this is a problem that needs solving.

    So it will process ALL incoming messages and not just ones a user would select? if 98% of the messages come through as english and the program threw them at the translation engine, would that cause some issues down the road? speed, overusage of api, etc.?

    The message reader (eg. Nightfox's reader) could allow the user to set a language/translation preference. Whenever it loads a message it could check a local cache to see if a translation has already been done on that message (to the user's preferred language); if not, then it could try to identify what language the message was written in; if the message is not in the user's preferred language, then throw it at an API, cache the result locally, display the translation to the user (and a note to say it's been auto-translated).

    This way, only messages that a user (who has opted for translation) views would be processed, and caching may help to reduce API usage (if most users on a given BBS preferred the same language, anyway). Trying to identify the language before you even hit the API would reduce that further.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230
    * Synchronet * electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 00:29:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Bill McGarrity on 05-02-18 21:32 <=-

    Re: Translation
    By: Bill McGarrity to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 12:50:00

    Well, I'm not at the stage where I could possibly do it within the message base but as a extended program, I can't see why not. Just have to work with a translation site somewhere.

    Yeah, thats where I would def have issues, when it comes to apis, etc.. I'm no help whatsoever.

    There is actually one I found that supports api's named Yandex. I haven't really looked deeply into it just yet but it seems it will do what is needed. Even gives you input as to what language it will translate to being it has an auto feature in determining what the input language is. Also may have to use UTF-8 for all the higher ascii.

    Hopefully I'm almost finished with the horoscope script... still in debug mode... :)


    --

    Bill

    Telnet: tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    Web: bbs.tequilamockingbirdonline.net
    FTP: ftp.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:2121
    IRC: irc.tequilamockingbirdonline.net Ports: 6661-6670 SSL: +6697
    Radio: radio.tequilamockingbirdonline.net:8010/live


    ... Look Twice... Save a Life!!! Motorcycles are Everywhere!!!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.50
    * Origin: TequilaMockingbird Online - Toms River, NJ (1:266/404)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Thu May 3 14:04:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I remember Altavista owning it some time ago - I used to use babelfish.altavista.com. I thought it had been bought out by Yahoo.
    Now it looks like there's just a www.babelfish.com that does
    translations.

    The latter is the one I recall using the most.


    ... And now to the weather. Its zero outside. No temperature at all.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 14:06:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I'm the complete opposite, I can hear it, but would not be able to read it. (for the most part).

    Probably because visual processing is much stronger than auditory, so much so that I actually process a lot of auditory information visually :)


    ... Let him who takes the plunge remember to return it by Tuesday.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 14:13:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Yeah, after thinking more and more about it, I agree.. I frequent a lot
    of amateur radio FB groups and theres times when total gibberish is
    passed by the translation matrix, so yea... there's that.. guess it
    would be good for maybe a general area, or even maybe an area setup specifically for translated speaking.

    It's possible it could be helpful at times, but would more than likely
    ne a nuisence.

    I think having the option of turning the translation on is the best, rather than having it on all the time, a bit like how offline readers handle ANSI. And there's no reason why Multimail couldn't do translations (with a key press) if it happens to be online at the time, and simply say "translation not available" if the attempt is made while truly offline. Since that would be on the user to subscribe to the API, that would reduce the load on the sysop's key for the BBS. :)


    ... The families of one's friends are always a disappointment.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 14:15:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Haha.. I remember when Beijeng was getting ready for the Olympics and
    some of the Chingrish that was posted was just outrageous and lol
    funny..

    Haha in the 70s, it was Jinglish, as the Japanese became an exporter of electronics. Today, it's Chinglish from China, and yes it can be quite amusing. :D


    ... I have PMS and a loaded gun, now, what did you say?!?!
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 14:17:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    So it will process ALL incoming messages and not just ones a user would select? if 98% of the messages come through as english and the program threw them at the translation engine, would that cause some issues down the road? speed, overusage of api, etc.?

    I think having the user select would be better - less use of the API and also less chance of corrupting messages. Also, there might be a boring thread (by subject) that someone chose to respond to in their native language (it might have been a non English thread anyway), and you don't need a translation if you're not going to read the message anyway!


    ... Those who think they know it all, often upset those of us who do.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to echicken on Thu May 3 14:18:00 2018
    echicken wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    This way, only messages that a user (who has opted for translation)
    views would be processed, and caching may help to reduce API usage (if most users on a given BBS preferred the same language, anyway). Trying
    to identify the language before you even hit the API would reduce that further.

    I suspect the API would be needed to detect the language in the first place.


    ... Elvis has left the echo.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From echicken@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Thu May 3 00:58:40 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to echicken on Thu May 03 2018 14:18:00

    I suspect the API would be needed to detect the language in the first place.

    Very likely, but there might be somewhat lightweight methods of doing it locally. In any event the point would be not to hit the API any more or sooner than necessary.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230
    * Synchronet * electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to echicken on Thu May 3 15:06:00 2018
    echicken wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Very likely, but there might be somewhat lightweight methods of doing
    it locally. In any event the point would be not to hit the API any
    more or sooner than necessary.

    Agree on the last point, and this is one reason I would go with maual translation with caching - so the second person that requests the same translation will get a cached copy.


    ... Peter Piper picked 8.810 liters of pickled peppers.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Thu May 3 09:31:58 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 14:06:00

    I'm the complete opposite, I can hear it, but would not be able to
    read it. (for the most part).

    Probably because visual processing is much stronger than auditory, so much so that I actually process a lot of auditory information visually :)

    We have a gene floating around in out family that causes our hearing to diminish in our mid 20's so a lot of us start reading lips and facial expression, body language, etc.. that has more to do with speaking than one would think.. Its strange, I have issues hearing different tones but there are some things that I hear (chalk on chalkboard, markers, pencils writing) that make me cringe. it actually hurts my head to the poing of triggering a migraine . This even happened through my school years. If I was lucky I would get a teacher who would allow me to use a pen. Otherwise I suffered through it, I would presume that is the reason that my handwriting is horrendous now. I know it sounds crazy, I guess my teachers thought I was crazy too, thats why most of them berated me and I did poorly. I finally had one teacher around sixth grade who said he had seen this in people before, he allowed me to use ink pins for everything except standardized test and I did very well in is class.

    A lot of the teachers in this area were a joke anyway, but their scandals and addictions caught up with them and they were either fired, or quit before they had the chance. but there were a few special ones who have always had my full respect.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Thu May 3 09:35:21 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 14:15:00

    Haha.. I remember when Beijeng was getting ready for the Olympics
    and some of the Chingrish that was posted was just outrageous and
    lol funny..

    Haha in the 70s, it was Jinglish, as the Japanese became an exporter of electronics. Today, it's Chinglish from China, and yes it can be quite amusing. :D

    Very much so, have tons of user manuals from my RC planes, cameras, and some ham equiptment that would crack you up. then piss you off becaus ethen you have to go to youtube to figure something out. Why even provide a manual if it makes no sense whatsoever.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Thu May 3 14:13:00 2018
    Tony,

    ... I have PMS and a loaded gun, now, what did you say?!?!

    That's what I saw on a T-shirt once...and a lady friend I told that
    to, said "I MUST HAVE THAT SHIRT!!" <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Can pigs fly?? Depends on how hard you toss them.
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 12:46:06 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed May 02 2018 09:28 pm

    It wouldn't be something that would happen just once per login
    though. A BBS could potentially have users reading many messages,
    and I could see the limit running out before the end of the month.

    Hows that? if one is sitting at a read message prompt of a spanish language message they could hit (t) or something to translate, it would translate on the fly via http or some other method and present the translated message.

    I don't remember offhand, but suppose the translater service is limited to 100 translation requests per month with a free account. Sometimes when I log in, there could be 20 new messages just in one message area.. If there are multiple people reading the message areas translating each message, that could hit the limit before the month is up.

    as dm stated it may be better for an external
    reader/editor instead of the sbbs message interface.

    It could be done for sure. Though it would be interesting if Synchronet had something built-in where it could show translated message text in the stock interface or return translated message text to JavaScript scripts. But it's something that could be done in JavaScript easily enough.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 12:49:24 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Wed May 02 2018 09:38 pm

    I was thinking about this further, and I'm wondering if perhaps that
    would not be so much of a problem. If the reader is simply set to
    translate all messages into a certain language (I'm thinking by the
    user's choice), then it wouldn't necessarily matter what language
    people post in, it would just get translated into a language that
    the reader can read.

    So it will process ALL incoming messages and not just ones a user would select? if 98% of the messages come through as english and the program threw them at the translation engine, would that cause some issues down the road? speed, overusage of api, etc.?

    Well if someone doesn't read English well and prefers reading in another language, they would probably want to translate each message, whether the reader does it automatically or the user chooses to translate each message. I was thinking the reader could have a user option where the user can specify their preferred language. Then the reader could have the translation engine try to detect what language the message is, and if the chosen language is different, then go ahead and translate it. It might be a bit of a hassle if the user has to manually choose to translate each message to their preferred language. If the reader fails to get a translated message (due to network timeout or maximum translations per month reached, etc.), it could show an error and show the message in the original language.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to echicken on Thu May 3 12:56:46 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: echicken to KK4QBN on Wed May 02 2018 10:51 pm

    The message reader (eg. Nightfox's reader) could allow the user to set a language/translation preference. Whenever it loads a message it could check a local cache to see if a translation has already been done on that message (to the user's preferred language); if not, then it could try to identify what language the message was written in; if the message is not in the user's preferred language, then throw it at an API, cache the result locally, display the translation to the user (and a note to say it's been auto-translated).

    Caching would be a good idea.

    identify the language before you even hit the API would reduce that further.

    I've wondered if the translation APIs have some sort of a language identification that could be used before doing the actual translation. If you wanted to identify the language before hitting the API, you'd probably need to write your own thing, which I imagine would do some kind of dictionary lookup..

    FWIW I'm only weighing in to do the same. I don't know if this is a problem that needs solving.

    Perhaps, but I've thought it might be a cool feature, and perhaps useful for speakers of other languages. I've wondered if it could be a feature of internet forum software in general in the future - It would certainly increase accessbility of the forum if messages could be auto-translated into a language of their choice while they're reading the forum. Perhaps it would be more feasible as translation software improves.

    I'm pretty sure I've also seen a web browser plugin that can translate a page for you.. That could work as well, although it wouldn't really work with a BBS telnet interface.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Thu May 3 12:37:37 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 02:15 pm

    Haha in the 70s, it was Jinglish, as the Japanese became an exporter of electronics. Today, it's Chinglish from China, and yes it can be quite amusing. :D

    Engrish (English as translated by Japanese) has gotten better. Daiso is a chain of Japanese dollar stores (Actually $1.50) and they used to have some
    hilarious translations on their merchandise. Lately, it's starting to make sense. Whether my facilities are devolving or they're getting better, I don't know.

    ---
    * Synchronet * realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Fri May 4 06:59:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    We have a gene floating around in out family that causes our hearing to diminish in our mid 20's so a lot of us start reading lips and facial expression, body language, etc.. that has more to do with speaking than one would think.. Its strange, I have issues hearing different tones

    Good strategy, just in case. :)

    but there are some things that I hear (chalk on chalkboard, markers, pencils writing) that make me cringe. it actually hurts my head to the poing of triggering a migraine . This even happened through my school years. If I was lucky I would get a teacher who would allow me to use a pen. Otherwise I suffered through it, I would presume that is the

    This sounds like sensory procesing disorder. It's most commonly seen among autistic people. I have it, though I also somehow found ways to almost eliminate the debilitating aspects, while being able to harness the enhanced senses. I also had measurable physical sensitivity in my hearing in the mid and high frequencies, at least into my late 20s. As for understanding conversation, that is still affected by sensory processing issues, where certain environments can render speech unintelligible, even when the voice can be clearly heard - it's just that they might as well be speaking Swahili... or Klingon. :) But physically, my hearing is unusually good for someone my age.

    reason that my handwriting is horrendous now. I know it sounds crazy, I guess my teachers thought I was crazy too, thats why most of them

    Not crazy at all. I've both seen and experienced it, though not as severely as you, by the sounds of it. And the defence mechansims I somehow developed (which are extremely rare) also came in with exposure to those triggering noises over time. I can now sense how much I am compensating, which is sometimes useful when checking out environments for sensitive people to use.

    berated me and I did poorly. I finally had one teacher around sixth
    grade who said he had seen this in people before, he allowed me to use
    ink pins for everything except standardized test and I did very well in
    is class.

    Good teacher! :) My handwriting issues were largely due to coordination issues - I still have some traces, and handwriting still takes more effort than it should, but the majority of coordination issues were dealt with through decades of sport (through my own choosing) and electronics (soldering SMDs really works the fine motor coordination!).

    A lot of the teachers in this area were a joke anyway, but their
    scandals and addictions caught up with them and they were either fired,
    or quit before they had the chance. but there were a few special ones
    who have always had my full respect.

    Even when it's bad, there's always at least one good teacher who goes above and beyond. :)


    ... The exception also declares the rule
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Fri May 4 06:59:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Haha in the 70s, it was Jinglish, as the Japanese became an exporter of electronics. Today, it's Chinglish from China, and yes it can be quite amusing. :D

    Very much so, have tons of user manuals from my RC planes, cameras, and some ham equiptment that would crack you up. then piss you off becaus ethen you have to go to youtube to figure something out. Why even
    provide a manual if it makes no sense whatsoever.

    Yeah it's sort of funny and frustrating at the same time. :D



    ... Information deteriorates upward through bureaucracies.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Fri May 4 07:00:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Tony,

    ... I have PMS and a loaded gun, now, what did you say?!?!

    That's what I saw on a T-shirt once...and a lady friend I told that
    to, said "I MUST HAVE THAT SHIRT!!" <G>

    I've also seen a tagline that says:

    "I have ESP, PMS and a GUN. Don't even think about it!" :D


    ... Rugby is played by men with odd-shaped balls!!
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 4 07:03:00 2018
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Engrish (English as translated by Japanese) has gotten better. Daiso is
    a chain of Japanese dollar stores (Actually $1.50) and they used to
    have some hilarious translations on their merchandise. Lately, it's starting to make sense. Whether my facilities are devolving or they're getting better, I don't know.

    The Japanese have invested a lot in getting English taught over there, and as a result, most of their translations are very good these days. A lot of my ham gear comes from Japan, and the manuals are invariably well written, maybe only one or two minor errors in grammar that I can pick out.


    ... You cannot be too careful in the choice of your enemies.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From echicken@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu May 3 17:23:55 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to echicken on Thu May 03 2018 12:56:46

    I've wondered if the translation APIs have some sort of a language identification that could be used before doing the actual translation. If

    Some of them do autodetect the source language IIRC. Presumably it could be done with a smaller sample of the overall message. Edge cases, though, like the recent messages that have shown up here posted in both English and French, might be annoying or require paragraph-by-paragraph translation (or worse).

    you wanted to identify the language before hitting the API, you'd probably need to write your own thing, which I imagine would do some kind of dictionary lookup..

    I figure you could have a local repository of the x most common words in various languages, then score the target message against each one. Highest score wins. I have no idea how well that would work, or if it would be
    much faster than querying some remote web service, but it would reduce queries against your (presumed) daily/monthly quota.

    ---
    echicken
    electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230
    * Synchronet * electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu May 3 16:55:52 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 12:46:06

    Hows that? if one is sitting at a read message prompt of a spanish
    language message they could hit (t) or something to translate, it
    would translate on the fly via http or some other method and
    present the translated message.

    I don't remember offhand, but suppose the translater service is limited to 100 translation requests per month with a free account. Sometimes when I log in, there could be 20 new messages just in one message area.. If there are multiple people reading the message areas translating each message, that could hit the limit before the month is up.

    Understood, I'm not putting myself in others shoes, I have the mindset of an english speaking person reading these areas, not as a non english speaking person, so yes, I presume if a non english speaking person was using the feature it could use it up in one sitting :).

    It could be done for sure. Though it would be interesting if Synchronet had something built-in where it could show translated message text in the stock interface or return translated message text to JavaScript scripts. But it's something that could be done in JavaScript easily enough.

    Yes, it would be cool if it were a BBS specific feature and not external, but in the end, it would end up costing *someone* money to offer it.. unless there is a completely free translation engine out there somewhere that can be utilized. maybe find a way to hack over googles service? would pay them back for all of googlebots transgressions :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu May 3 16:57:40 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Thu May 03 2018 12:49:24

    Well if someone doesn't read English well and prefers reading in another language, they would probably want to translate each message, whether the reader does it automatically or the user chooses to translate each message. I was thinking the reader could have a user option where the user can specify their preferred language. Then the reader could have the translation engine try to detect what language the message is, and if the chosen language is different, then go ahead and translate it. It might be a bit of a hassle if the user has to manually choose to translate each message to their preferred language. If the reader fails to get a translated message (due to network timeout or maximum translations per month reached, etc.), it could show an error and show the message in the original language.

    Yeah, I just covered that in my last message, I was'nt putting myself in others shoes (maybe I lack the empathy to do that, and I thought I was a very empathic person) :-).

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to echicken on Thu May 3 16:01:41 2018
    Re: Translation
    By: echicken to Nightfox on Thu May 03 2018 05:23 pm

    Some of them do autodetect the source language IIRC. Presumably it could be done with a smaller sample of the overall message. Edge cases, though, like the recent messages that have shown up here posted in both English and French, might be annoying or require paragraph-by-paragraph translation (or worse).

    I know at least Google Translate can auto-detect the source language. If the source language & destination language are the same, hopefully it would leave the text alone..

    I figure you could have a local repository of the x most common words in various languages, then score the target message against each one. Highest score wins. I have no idea how well that would work, or if it would be much faster than querying some remote web service, but it would reduce queries against your (presumed) daily/monthly quota.

    That might work.. And it would probably be good to minimize the number of calls to a remote web service, at least to reduce the amount of time waiting for the remote service to respond.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 16:08:19 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu May 03 2018 04:55 pm

    Yes, it would be cool if it were a BBS specific feature and not external, but in the end, it would end up costing *someone* money to offer it..

    Well, I was imagining that even if it's built into the BBS software, hopefully it would be something that would let a sysop configure which translation service they'd want to use, as it would ultimately be the sysop's responsibility to pay for the service. I was thinking if I added it to my message reader, I'd want to make it that way, so the sysop can use whatever translation service they'd want to use, and of course they'd be able to use a free account or pay for a subscription if they choose. An agnostic implementation like that might require a sysop to code up some script that would get translation requests from the service of their choosing and write the results somewhere for my reader to read. Often I like to make my Synchronet mods so that sysops just have to change a configuration file to change their settings, so I'm not sure how I feel about requiring sysops to do some coding to make use of a feature.. I could hard-code a particular translation service in my reader also, but I'm not sure I'd want to limit it to one particular service either.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Thu May 3 16:12:38 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 04 2018 07:03 am

    The Japanese have invested a lot in getting English taught over there, and as a result, most of their translations are very good these days. A lot of my ham gear comes from Japan, and the manuals are invariably well written, maybe only one or two minor errors in grammar that I can pick out.

    That's cool.. I've often heard English has become a global language. It helps for sure for people to understand the same language, although I think it could be good if the different languages continue to exist. People often think in language, so speakers of different languages can sometimes come up with different unique ideas.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Thu May 3 19:33:15 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Fri May 04 2018 06:59:00

    Good teacher! :) My handwriting issues were largely due to coordination issues - I still have some traces, and handwriting still takes more effort than it should, but the majority of coordination issues were dealt with through decades of sport (through my own choosing) and electronics (soldering SMDs really works the fine motor coordination!).

    I do the same, I enjoy soldering, but at times it gets to where my hand starts shaking so badly I have to stop, take a break and try again. and it usually happens when soldering wires, not pcbs :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Thu May 3 18:44:00 2018
    Tony,

    I've also seen a tagline that says:

    "I have ESP, PMS and a GUN. Don't even think about it!" :D

    Having worked in silkscreen printing for almost 20 years, I always
    look for "wild shirts". :P

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to KK4QBN on Thu May 3 21:57:18 2018

    On 2018 May 01 21:35:54, you wrote to Nightfox:

    facebooks translation

    the last time i was there, that was bing...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Fri May 4 16:52:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    That's cool.. I've often heard English has become a global language.
    It helps for sure for people to understand the same language, although
    I think it could be good if the different languages continue to exist. People often think in language, so speakers of different languages can sometimes come up with different unique ideas.

    Yes, different languages can lead to different styles of thinking. My own way of thinking actually defies any conventional language though! :D That does have a few implications, from being able to think outside the box (or even "what box?" ;) ), so translation issues for every communication.


    ... Join Taglines Anonymous. We can help.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Fri May 4 16:53:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I do the same, I enjoy soldering, but at times it gets to where my hand starts shaking so badly I have to stop, take a break and try again. and
    it usually happens when soldering wires, not pcbs :)

    Wires are harder than PCBs, less stable things to work with. :)


    ... Bugs come in through open Windows.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Fri May 4 17:39:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Yeah, I just covered that in my last message, I was'nt putting myself
    in others shoes (maybe I lack the empathy to do that, and I thought I
    was a very empathic person) :-).

    It may be you didn't see that one. :)


    ... Hell is kept warm with profane burners.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Fri May 4 17:41:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to echicken <=-

    I know at least Google Translate can auto-detect the source language.
    If the source language & destination language are the same, hopefully
    it would leave the text alone..

    I think it does, and from memory, same if the language isn't known.

    I figure you could have a local repository of the x most common words in various languages, then score the target message against each one. Highest score wins. I have no idea how well that would work, or if it would be much faster than querying some remote web service, but it would reduce queries against your (presumed) daily/monthly quota.

    Hmm, English is most likely to screw that up! :D

    That might work.. And it would probably be good to minimize the number
    of calls to a remote web service, at least to reduce the amount of time waiting for the remote service to respond.

    Yes, and that's where having optional translation helps. Probably need a setting to auto translate all messages, or only on demand.


    ... I wondered why the baseball was getting bigger. Then it hit me!
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Fri May 4 16:24:06 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Fri May 04 2018 17:39:00

    Yeah, I just covered that in my last message, I was'nt putting
    myself in others shoes (maybe I lack the empathy to do that, and I
    thought I was a very empathic person) :-).

    It may be you didn't see that one. :)

    There I go straying awayay from my empathic ablilites agaim.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Sat May 5 07:41:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    It may be you didn't see that one. :)

    There I go straying awayay from my empathic ablilites agaim.

    Haha, not as Betazoid as you thought? ;)


    ... How was my day? Oh, the police will fill you in...
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Fri May 4 19:20:22 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sat May 05 2018 07:41:00

    It may be you didn't see that one. :)

    There I go straying awayay from my empathic ablilites agaim.

    Haha, not as Betazoid as you thought? ;)

    lol.. was wondering if anyone would catch on :)

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have to go back to tng sooner or later.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Fri May 4 17:22:48 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Fri May 04 2018 07:20 pm

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have to go back to tng sooner or later.

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen all of were the original series and the animated series.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Sat May 5 12:28:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    There I go straying awayay from my empathic ablilites agaim.

    Haha, not as Betazoid as you thought? ;)

    lol.. was wondering if anyone would catch on :)

    LOL I couldn't resist. :D

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have to
    go back to tng sooner or later.

    Cool! :)

    We're doing Babylon 5 ATM. :)


    ... All the stats in the world don't mean as much as a human feeling.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Sat May 5 12:30:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen all of were the original series and the animated series.

    Seen them all here, and got them all too. :)


    ... MODEM? I've been calling this BBS with a Tarot deck.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri May 4 22:34:47 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri May 04 2018 17:22:48

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have
    to go back to tng sooner or later.

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen all of were the original series and the animated series.

    same here.. I just cant handle shatner, and the very cheesy effects.. some of enterprise seems a bit cheesy compared to tng, and I blame that mainly on the actors.. some of them really arent that good.. I'm glad that moment in time was told, but they could have done better.. I guess tng and stargate has spoiled me.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sat May 5 07:25:22 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sat May 05 2018 12:28:00

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have
    to go back to tng sooner or later.

    Cool! :)

    We're doing Babylon 5 ATM. :)

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix reboot of Lost in Space yet?

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sat May 5 07:27:20 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Sat May 05 2018 12:30:00

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't
    seen all of were the original series and the animated series.

    Seen them all here, and got them all too. :)

    afaik, right now, Netflix carries the whole franchise..

    I want more stargate, not none of this origins crap that came from crowd funding, but some more stories from the stargate universe.

    SGU left me pissed off!

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sat May 5 09:25:00 2018
    Tim,

    same here.. I just cant handle shatner, and the very cheesy effects.. some of

    He even was in a commercial for "Priceline - Name Your Own Price"
    awhile back. Shoot, why can't the "name your own price" be FREE?? :P

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Cold winter coming!! I saw a squirrel buying Sterno!
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sat May 5 09:25:00 2018
    Tim,

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix reboot o K>Lost in Space yet?

    My sensors detect danger, Doctor Smith. <G>

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Computer Hacker wanted. Must have own axe.
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to NIGHTFOX on Sat May 5 09:58:00 2018
    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen all of >were the original series and the animated series.

    There was an animated series?

    ---
    * SLMR 2.1a * Keep your stick on the ice
    * Synchronet * CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sat May 5 10:47:13 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Fri May 04 2018 07:20 pm

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have to go back to tng sooner or later.

    When you go back to TNG, check out the back episodes of a podcast called "Star Trek: The Greatest Generation". Two guys started with Encounter at Farpoint and did a podcast episode per episode, dissecting and making light of the episodes. It's like watching them again with a couple of geeky friends.

    Every episode, they bestow a "Drunk Shimoda" award on the derpiest performance that week. There have been some classic ones.

    They finished ST:TNG and are working on DS9 now.

    ---
    * Synchronet * realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sat May 5 10:52:06 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri May 04 2018 10:34 pm

    same here.. I just cant handle shatner, and the very cheesy effects.. some of enterprise seems a bit cheesy compared to tng, and I blame that mainly on the actors.. some of them really arent that good.. I'm glad that moment in time was told, but they could have done better.. I guess tng and stargate has spoiled me.

    They had some good ones - the remastered and re-effected "The Doomsday Machine" is pretty good.

    There's an interesting video on Vimeo about the music of ST:TOS, that's one area where TOS stands out:

    https://vimeo.com/181693915

    They don't score TV shows any more.

    ---
    * Synchronet * realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Sat May 5 10:55:12 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Mike Powell to NIGHTFOX on Sat May 05 2018 09:58 am

    There was an animated series?

    Oh, I am old.

    Yes. it's on Netflix - and worth a watch.

    ---
    * Synchronet * realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Sat May 5 12:37:25 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Sat May 05 2018 09:25:00

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix
    reboot o Lost in Space yet?

    My sensors detect danger, Doctor Smith. <G>

    more like danger will robinson.. I did'nt see the original.. but without giving out spoilers.. I could choke this dr smith.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 5 21:51:20 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to KK4QBN on Sat May 05 2018 10:47:13

    been binging on st enterprise, and voyager here lately.. will have
    to go back to tng sooner or later.

    When you go back to TNG, check out the back episodes of a podcast called "Star Trek: The Greatest Generation". Two guys started with Encounter at Farpoint and did a podcast episode per episode, dissecting and making light of the episodes. It's like watching them again with a couple of geeky friends.

    Every episode, they bestow a "Drunk Shimoda" award on the derpiest performance that week. There have been some classic ones.

    Sweet, I'll have to check that out:)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Sun May 6 20:17:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    We're doing Babylon 5 ATM. :)

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix reboot of Lost in Space yet?

    Wow, a 90's classic and you missed it!

    Yeah the new Lost in Space isn't bad, been enjoying it.


    ... Disk Failure: (W)arm Boot, (C)old Boot, (S)teel Toe Boot?
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Sun May 6 20:19:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Seen them all here, and got them all too. :)

    afaik, right now, Netflix carries the whole franchise..

    Yep, Netflix does.

    I want more stargate, not none of this origins crap that came from
    crowd funding, but some more stories from the stargate universe.

    SGU left me pissed off!

    SGU was really finding its feet when it was cancelled. :( I really enjoyed the second seaon in particular.


    ... I know exactly what a sextet is... But I'd rather not say...
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Mike Powell on Sun May 6 20:23:00 2018
    Mike Powell wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen all
    f
    were the original series and the animated series.

    There was an animated series?

    Yes, in the 1970s. I actully got to see it as a kid on the Saturday morning cartoon shows.


    ... If what you don't know can't hurt you, she's practically invulnerable.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sun May 6 08:08:51 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun May 06 2018 20:19:00

    SGU left me pissed off!

    SGU was really finding its feet when it was cancelled. :( I really enjoyed the second seaon in particular.

    Yes, same here.. the true essence of their characters were finally just showing up. Eli was a beginning to become a badass.. I don't know if I saw this on TV or dreamed it. But I could swear that Eli ended up being out of the stasis pod for like two years and lived alone like thatand ended up taking everyone out of stasis because he found the answer to "it all". If I watched that, it is'nt on netflix. but I have a feeling I ended up dreaming up season 3 episode one :-)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sun May 6 12:09:00 2018
    Tim,

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix K>>reboot o Lost in Space yet?

    My sensors detect danger, Doctor Smith. <G>

    more like danger will robinson.. I did'nt see the original.. but without givi K>out spoilers.. I could choke this dr smith.

    Dr. Smith sure "blubbered" when he got worried and upset, IIRC. But,
    they don't make stuff like that anymore. Even "Voyage To The Bottom Of
    The Sea" comes to mind.

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion.
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Hawkeye@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sun May 6 21:30:22 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Sat May 05 2018 12:30:00

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen all of were the original series and the animated series.
    Seen them all here, and got them all too. :)

    Same here... some seen several times :)

    My WiFi SSIDs are NCC1702 and NCC1705....


    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - mash4077.ddns.net - The Netherlands -

    ---
    * Synchronet * MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Hawkeye@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sun May 6 21:36:08 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sat May 05 2018 12:28:00

    We're doing Babylon 5 ATM. :)

    That is on my viewing list also, saw it back then but want to see it again.

    Good series.

    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - mash4077.ddns.net - The Netherlands -

    ---
    * Synchronet * MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Hawkeye@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sun May 6 21:37:47 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sat May 05 2018 07:25:22

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix reboot of Lost in Space yet?

    The original and the reboot of Lost in Space are very nice. Maybe the original is too slow of pace for many viewers but I like it.

    The reboot has a nice twist and some little differences but they work well. Love the reboot.


    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - mash4077.ddns.net - The Netherlands -

    ---
    * Synchronet * MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Hawkeye@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sun May 6 21:39:05 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sat May 05 2018 07:27:20

    I want more stargate, not none of this origins crap that came from crowd funding, but some more stories from the stargate universe.
    SGU left me pissed off!

    True, SGU was finally getting interested gets it cancelled :( Origins is not worthy to be SG...


    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - mash4077.ddns.net - The Netherlands -

    ---
    * Synchronet * MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Hawkeye@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Sun May 6 21:40:16 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sat May 05 2018 12:37:25

    giving out spoilers.. I could choke this dr smith.

    LOL... you would also the original dr smith, sure thing...

    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - mash4077.ddns.net - The Netherlands -

    ---
    * Synchronet * MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Hawkeye@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sun May 6 21:41:03 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun May 06 2018 20:17:00

    Wow, a 90's classic and you missed it!

    Yes... and some scenes were made with an AMIGA!!!! :)


    HAWKEYE

    - MASH BBS - mash4077.ddns.net - The Netherlands -

    ---
    * Synchronet * MASH4077.DDNS.NET - MASH BBS - The Netherlands
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Mike Powell on Sun May 6 17:43:35 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Mike Powell to NIGHTFOX on Sat May 05 2018 09:58 am

    TNG was my favorite.. Probably the only Star Trek shows I haven't seen
    all of were the original series and the animated series.

    There was an animated series?

    Yes, late 70s I believe.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Mon May 7 10:59:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Yes, same here.. the true essence of their characters were finally just showing up. Eli was a beginning to become a badass.. I don't know if I

    The characters were developing, and so was the storyline. There was this mysterious anomaly in the Cosmic Microwave Background that Destiny was headed towards, and the implication that had for the creation of the Universe. That part was really getting me in. I do wish they'd bring it back.

    saw this on TV or dreamed it. But I could swear that Eli ended up being out of the stasis pod for like two years and lived alone like thatand ended up taking everyone out of stasis because he found the answer to
    "it all". If I watched that, it is'nt on netflix. but I have a feeling
    I ended up dreaming up season 3 episode one :-)

    I haven't heard of that, but yes that would be an awesome start to season 3! :)


    ... SYSTEM ERROR: Press F13 to continue...
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Hawkeye on Mon May 7 11:01:00 2018
    Hawkeye wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Same here... some seen several times :)

    All Trek seen several times here :D

    My WiFi SSIDs are NCC1702 and NCC1705....

    Haha this PC is called STARFLEET. :D The new Linux box is called Discovery, and I did have a Windows 2000 server called Voyager years ago. :) Maybe I should have made my SSID Deep Space 9. :D


    ... To eat, perchance, to barf.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Hawkeye on Mon May 7 11:02:00 2018
    Hawkeye wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    We're doing Babylon 5 ATM. :)

    That is on my viewing list also, saw it back then but want to see it again.

    It's another show I can't get sick of, have already seen it through several times.


    ... "Hello, World!" 17 Errors, 31 Warnings....
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Hawkeye on Mon May 7 11:04:00 2018
    Hawkeye wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Wow, a 90's classic and you missed it!

    Yes... and some scenes were made with an AMIGA!!!! :)

    Yes, the effects were cutting edge at the time. Amigas were particularly well suited to TV and video editing. Sounds like I need one for mt ATV station. :)


    ... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Mon May 7 11:05:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Dr. Smith sure "blubbered" when he got worried and upset, IIRC. But, they don't make stuff like that anymore. Even "Voyage To The Bottom Of
    The Sea" comes to mind.

    Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea was another one I watched a lot of as a kid. Great series.


    ... My Brain has too many tabs open...
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Hawkeye on Mon May 7 11:07:00 2018
    Hawkeye wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    The original and the reboot of Lost in Space are very nice. Maybe the original is too slow of pace for many viewers but I like it.

    The reboot has a nice twist and some little differences but they work well. Love the reboot.

    I'm not normally a fan of reboots, but Lost in Space is doing it for me so far.
    It is a different take on the original idea, different enough to treat as a separate series, and quite well done.


    ... There can *be* no "appropriate tagline" for this post.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Hawkeye on Mon May 7 11:09:00 2018
    Hawkeye wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    True, SGU was finally getting interested gets it cancelled :( Origins
    is not worthy to be SG...

    Yes, SGU should have been given at least another season, it was at a tipping point when it finished and really looked like going somewhere.


    ... DEVICEHIGH: Your device driver on drugs.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Hawkeye on Mon May 7 11:10:00 2018
    Hawkeye wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Re: Re: Translation
    By: KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sat May 05 2018 12:37:25

    giving out spoilers.. I could choke this dr smith.

    LOL... you would also the original dr smith, sure thing...

    The original Dr Smith you'd choke. The new one you wouldn't mess around with, just give her the bullet - get it done quickly, safer that way. :). :D


    ... The wages of sin are unreported.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sun May 6 22:54:50 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Hawkeye on Mon May 07 2018 11:07:00

    I'm not normally a fan of reboots, but Lost in Space is doing it for me so far.
    It is a different take on the original idea, different enough to treat as a separate series, and quite well done.

    "Dr" Smith is killing me though.. I want her dead.. haha I guess that's the whole premise.. to create a character that everyone despises..

    I have a feeling the Robot has a gender and is female. Do'nt want to throw out any spoilers, but it seems more of a nurturer than a murderer. and I don;t know whether they in fact are a sentient species, or are built. I know something sneaky was going on to create the whole robot "issue" and humans had a hand in it.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to HAWKEYE on Sun May 6 22:10:00 2018
    LOL... you would also the original dr smith, sure thing...

    The robot was cool, too. :)

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Dachshunds are small crocodiles with fur.
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sun May 6 22:11:00 2018
    Tony,

    should have made my SSID Deep Space 9. :D

    There was a BBS in northeast Florida at one time with that name.
    Sadly, the Sysop had to take the BBS down, as he and his wife were
    moving to a new location, that didn't allow port forwarding with the Wi-Fi...and I understand he passed away earlier this year.

    I still have the contents of his system in a zip file, but I'll
    probably delete them, as he obviously has no use for them now.

    Daryl

    ---
    * OLX 1.53 * Daddy, why doesn't this magnet pick up your diskettes??
    * Synchronet * DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun May 6 18:30:00 2018
    There was an animated series?

    Oh, I am old.
    Yes. it's on Netflix - and worth a watch.


    I am probably old enough to remember it, too, just does not ring a bell. :)

    I am one of the few folks I know that does not have Netflix. I already
    watch enough TV as is. If I had Netflix, too, I would probably never leave
    the house. :o :D

    ---
    * SLMR 2.1a * It's the Bucket woman! She'll sing at me!!!
    * Synchronet * CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sun May 6 18:31:00 2018
    There was an animated series?
    Yes, in the 1970s. I actully got to see it as a kid on the Saturday morning cartoon shows.

    I was probably busy watching Buggs Bunny, Scooby Doo, or Fat Albert and
    didn't see it. I like Sci-Fi now but, back then, I was more into TV for
    the laughs. I turned 10 in 1980, so I was that age. :)

    ---
    * SLMR 2.1a * "!Beavis! ?Donde esta su hall pass?"
    * Synchronet * CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Mon May 7 17:24:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    "Dr" Smith is killing me though.. I want her dead.. haha I guess that's the whole premise.. to create a character that everyone despises..

    Yeah I just want to shoot her and be done with it! :D

    I have a feeling the Robot has a gender and is female. Do'nt want to
    throw out any spoilers, but it seems more of a nurturer than a
    murderer. and I don;t know whether they in fact are a sentient species,
    or are built. I know something sneaky was going on to create the whole robot "issue" and humans had a hand in it.

    Yes, there is a human connection. The robot certainly has a depth of personality, and that shows through a bit. But yeah, no spoilers for those who haven't seen it.


    ... Mind you, any dead animal on a bun tastes pretty good to me.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Mon May 7 17:27:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    There was a BBS in northeast Florida at one time with that name.
    Sadly, the Sysop had to take the BBS down, as he and his wife were
    moving to a new location, that didn't allow port forwarding with the Wi-Fi...and I understand he passed away earlier this year.

    Yeah my VPN would get around that problem and at least allow IPv4 connectivity.
    I could have also got IPv6 over the tunnel, but opted not to, because I already have native IPv6.

    I still have the contents of his system in a zip file, but I'll
    probably delete them, as he obviously has no use for them now.

    Or archive them, they'd be a part of BBSing history now. If necessary, consult with the family, if possible.


    ... Babehart - a cute little pig that slaughters half of Scotland
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Mike Powell on Mon May 7 17:28:00 2018
    Mike Powell wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    There was an animated series?
    Yes, in the 1970s. I actully got to see it as a kid on the Saturday morning cartoon shows.

    I was probably busy watching Buggs Bunny, Scooby Doo, or Fat Albert and didn't see it. I like Sci-Fi now but, back then, I was more into TV
    for the laughs. I turned 10 in 1980, so I was that age. :)

    You're only 2 years younger than me, and I loved Star Trek in my childhood years. Some things haven't changed. ;)


    ... For a man of fortitude, there are no walls, only avenues.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Mon May 7 17:30:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    There was an animated series?

    Yes, late 70s I believe.

    Early-mid 70s in the US, appeared on TV in the mid 70s in Australia.


    ... What is the Latin for office automation?
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Mike Powell on Mon May 7 17:33:00 2018
    Mike Powell wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    I am one of the few folks I know that does not have Netflix. I already watch enough TV as is. If I had Netflix, too, I would probably never leave the house. :o :D

    Haha well there's nothing on TV, so Netflix is the better option. Yeah I'm too active to be cntained in the house. :)


    ... Many Myths are based on truth. Spock, stardate 5832.3.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Mon May 7 07:40:38 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Mike Powell on Mon May 07 2018 17:33:00

    I am one of the few folks I know that does not have Netflix. I
    already watch enough TV as is. If I had Netflix, too, I would
    probably never leave the house. :o :D

    Haha well there's nothing on TV, so Netflix is the better option. Yeah I'm too active to be cntained in the house. :)

    I have not had cable or satellite for years now, anything I watch is either OTA, netflix, hulu, or stuff on the many free streaming services that my roku and android device provide.

    I got sick of tv.. sick of "History" channel and its "Historical documentrys"" and any other channel that followed the trend of "reality tv" which was just about all of them... so good by and good riddance.. I get all I need from my streams.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - 706.422.9538 - EM74OR - NW GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to KK4QBN on Tue May 8 09:26:00 2018
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I have not had cable or satellite for years now, anything I watch is either OTA, netflix, hulu, or stuff on the many free streaming services that my roku and android device provide.

    I've never had cable or satellite TV, couldn't see the value in it. Streaming services, even the subscription ones are much better value.

    I got sick of tv.. sick of "History" channel and its "Historical documentrys"" and any other channel that followed the trend of "reality tv" which was just about all of them... so good by and good riddance..
    I get all I need from my streams.

    I can understand that. :)


    ... Useless Invention: Umbrella with a skylight.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Mike Powell@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Mon May 7 20:38:00 2018
    Haha well there's nothing on TV, so Netflix is the better option. Yeah I'm too
    active to be cntained in the house. :)

    The Public Broadcast Service (PBS) here in the states runs a lot of things
    I find worth watching. Kentucky has its own PBS network, Kentucky
    Educational Television (KET) which picks up a lot of things on its own as
    well. Most all of the non-educational content is British, with some other International content sometimes mixed in.

    I do watch some US shows on the main, and cable, networks also, but about
    50% or more is something imported... or re-runs of older shows on one of
    the retro networks.

    ---
    * SLMR 2.1a * Oooo, Better run, Mr. Wino!!!
    * Synchronet * CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Mike Powell on Tue May 8 14:47:00 2018
    Mike Powell wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    The Public Broadcast Service (PBS) here in the states runs a lot of
    things I find worth watching. Kentucky has its own PBS network,

    That's like our equivalent, the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), which is one of the public broadcasters here.


    ... No user-serviceable parts inside (or outside).
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue May 8 09:47:21 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Tue May 08 2018 09:26 am

    I've never had cable or satellite TV, couldn't see the value in it. Streaming services, even the subscription ones are much better value.

    One thing that frustrates me about streaming services is that they don't always have recent content, and they often rotate their content (although they add content, they often drop content too).

    Years ago, I once signed up for Netflix thinking I could stream movies rather than going to RedBox to rent movies, to find out that they didn't have any of the movies that were currently available for rent.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue May 8 09:48:47 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Mike Powell on Tue May 08 2018 02:47 pm

    That's like our equivalent, the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), which is one of the public broadcasters here.

    There's also an ABC in the US (American Broadcasting Corporation).

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Ray Quinn@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Tue May 8 17:48:05 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun May 06 2018 20:17:00

    I have'nt seen that yet, need to watch it. have you seen the netflix
    reboot of Lost in Space yet?

    I watched the entire first season (10 episodes) in just over a week. It was gripping and hard to step away.
    ---

    If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body,
    then only left handed people are in their right minds.

    _____
    , |[][]|
    ,__| ______| |
    ,__/__]|| ________ | D8 |
    |__!___!!`--'L_______\ |__________|() ___________
    "(_)[___]====(_)(_)=| \_(___________)_/__/=(_)===(_)~'

    73 de Ray Quinn W6RAY
    GMRS WQTX645
    .. Visalia, CA USA DM06ii
    . When all else fails, ham radio works!
    ---
    * Synchronet * US 99 BBS - Visalia, CA - bbs.quinnnet.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed May 9 08:44:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    One thing that frustrates me about streaming services is that they
    don't always have recent content, and they often rotate their content (although they add content, they often drop content too).

    Good point.

    Years ago, I once signed up for Netflix thinking I could stream movies rather than going to RedBox to rent movies, to find out that they
    didn't have any of the movies that were currently available for rent.

    I tend to use them more for series rather than movies.


    ... Guests being stalked by zombies stay at Best Western.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Wed May 9 08:47:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    There's also an ABC in the US (American Broadcasting Corporation).

    I know, hence why I drw the distinction. And your ABC is a copmmercial network, isn't it? Ours is a public broadcaster (government funded), more along the lines of your PBS.


    ... Fotoflagellation - The act of waving a Polaroid so it develops faster.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Ray Quinn on Wed May 9 16:40:00 2018
    Ray Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I watched the entire first season (10 episodes) in just over a week. It was gripping and hard to step away.

    As I said a while back, I quite liked it too, a reboot that is actually well done.


    ... My brain has never had a firm grip on where my feet are.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed May 9 09:46:12 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed May 09 2018 08:44 am

    Years ago, I once signed up for Netflix thinking I could stream
    movies rather than going to RedBox to rent movies, to find out that
    they didn't have any of the movies that were currently available for
    rent.

    I tend to use them more for series rather than movies.

    Netflix does seem to have more current series rather than movies.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Wed May 9 09:46:34 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed May 09 2018 08:47 am

    There's also an ABC in the US (American Broadcasting Corporation).

    I know, hence why I drw the distinction. And your ABC is a copmmercial network, isn't it?

    That's correct.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Thu May 10 14:07:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Netflix does seem to have more current series rather than movies.

    I noticed the same thing.


    ... Cats are hard on cars. Mostly when you chase them over curbs!
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Thu May 10 14:08:00 2018
    Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I know, hence why I drw the distinction. And your ABC is a copmmercial network, isn't it?

    That's correct.

    Thought so, I'm not going loopy, that's good news. :D


    ... Yes, but you're taking the universe out of context.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu May 10 11:26:58 2018
    Re: Re: Translation
    By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed May 09 2018 09:46 am

    Netflix does seem to have more current series rather than movies.

    That's their trend - they're making more content now that licensing it.

    ---
    * Synchronet * realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Android8675@1:103/705 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 15 11:20:05 2018
    That's their trend - they're making more content now that licensing it.

    I love this trend. Original programming for $10/month over what you pay for Internet access, yes please. Probably costs the same to produce your own shows vs. licensing from other studios.

    Of course they now have a library of a million comedy specials. Ha! They also have a great lineup a Marvel Heroes.
    --
    Android8675@ShodansCore

    ---
    * Synchronet * Shodan's Core @ ShodansCore.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Android8675 on Wed May 16 11:44:00 2018
    Android8675 wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    That's their trend - they're making more content now that licensing it.

    I love this trend. Original programming for $10/month over what you pay for Internet access, yes please. Probably costs the same to produce
    your own shows vs. licensing from other studios.

    Yes, and from a customer's point of view, that's a great reason to keep supporting Netflix.


    ... I love criticism just so long as it's unqualified praise.
    === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)