• New Problems

    From thumper@1:103/705 to All on Thu Apr 5 08:25:06 2018
    Windows 10 did some sort of update recently and Windows Defender started removing a lot of my .exe files in Synchronet telling me they were infected. After that, none of my doors work or my archivers. I have since added back
    the files that were stripped out, but still no luck with my doors or zip program. I'm at a loss as to what might have happened or what I've possibly missed. I'm currently running the nightly build from 03/04/18.

    Thanks,

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  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to thumper on Thu Apr 5 16:36:57 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: thumper to All on Thu Apr 05 2018 08:25:06


    Windows 10 did some sort of update recently and Windows Defender started removing a lot of my .exe files in Synchronet telling me they were infected. After that, none of my doors work or my archivers. I have since added back the files that were stripped out, but still no luck with my doors or zip program. I'm at a loss as to what might have happened or what I've possibly missed. I'm currently running the nightly build from

    It's possible a virus migrated from your incoming folder, infected addfiles.exe, then jumped from there..


    or windows could be having its usual shit fits.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to thumper on Thu Apr 5 14:08:37 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: thumper to All on Thu Apr 05 2018 08:25 am

    Windows 10 did some sort of update recently and Windows Defender started removing a lot of my .exe files in Synchronet telling me they were infected. After that, none of my doors work or my archivers. I have since added back the files that were stripped out, but still no luck with my doors or zip program. I'm at a loss as to what might have happened or what I've possibly missed. I'm currently running the nightly build from 03/04/18.

    It's possible sbbsexec.dll was removed? It needs to be present in your Windows System32 directory: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:win#sbbsexecdll

    digital man

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Thu Apr 5 17:27:00 2018
    Tim,

    or windows could be having its usual shit fits.

    I'd be tempted to say that...I've heard of so many problems with
    Windows 10, that I'm staying with Windows 7 32-bit. "If it ain't broke,
    don't fix it"...never mind upgrade. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Thu Apr 5 17:11:14 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Thu Apr 05 2018 05:27 pm

    I'd be tempted to say that...I've heard of so many problems with
    Windows 10, that I'm staying with Windows 7 32-bit. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...never mind upgrade. <G>

    A few months ago, I finally upgraded my BBS VM from Windows XP to Windows 7 32-bit. I was seeing sbbsctrl crash occasionally in Windows XP (particularly when reading messages with my message reader), but I haven't seen it crash in Windows 7. I'll probably stick with Windows 7 on my BBS machine for a while, unless I have a pressing reason to upgrade it at some point in the future.

    I've also considered moving my BBS to Linux at some point.. But, I have it working right now and I'm not sure if I want to bother with that yet.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Thu Apr 5 21:59:49 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Thu Apr 05 2018 17:27:00

    or windows could be having its usual shit fits.

    I'd be tempted to say that...I've heard of so many problems with
    Windows 10, that I'm staying with Windows 7 32-bit. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...never mind upgrade. <G>

    Exactly!.. I like windows 10 for some things, and like it much better than windows 8, but would stil opt for windows 7 over 10, especially for some of the older software we run. not just for bbsing, but for ham also.

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  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Thu Apr 5 22:02:29 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Thu Apr 05 2018 17:11:14

    I've also considered moving my BBS to Linux at some point.. But, I have it working right now and I'm not sure if I want to bother with that yet.


    DO IT DO IT.. I know if I can, you most definatly can... I do have the occasional hiccup, but other than that.. no issues.. the BBS is running like butter now!.. I no longer get anymore than 1 error daily, if that.. especially with my frankenBBS setup.

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to thumper on Thu Apr 5 23:06:28 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: thumper to All on Thu Apr 05 2018 08:25 am

    Windows 10 did some sort of update recently and Windows Defender started removing a lot of my .exe files in Synchronet telling me they were infected. After that, none of my doors work or my archivers. I have since added back the files that were stripped out, but still no luck with my doors or zip program. I'm at a loss as to what might have happened or what I've possibly missed. I'm currently running the nightly build from

    I would use windows 7 32bit or even XP.
    If you must run your BBS on windows 10 shut off updates.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to KK4QBN on Fri Apr 6 09:55:57 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu Apr 05 2018 10:02 pm

    I've also considered moving my BBS to Linux at some point.. But, I
    have it working right now and I'm not sure if I want to bother with
    that yet.

    DO IT DO IT.. I know if I can, you most definatly can... I do have the occasional hiccup, but other than that.. no issues.. the BBS is running like butter now!.. I no longer get anymore than 1 error daily, if that.. especially with my frankenBBS setup.

    One of the reasons I haven't moved my BBS to Linux is that I do have a couple of Win32 BBS doors on my BBS, and at least one seemed somewhat popular.. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to run Win32 BBS doors in Linux (not sure if Wine would work?). Also, I do like the graphical control panel that Synchronet has for Windows. I remember seeing a graphical SBBS monitor for Linux, but I don't remember if that's something that's still maintained or not.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Apr 6 15:58:57 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri Apr 06 2018 09:55:57

    One of the reasons I haven't moved my BBS to Linux is that I do have a couple of Win32 BBS doors on my BBS, and at least one seemed somewhat popular.. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to run Win32 BBS doors in Linux (not sure if Wine would work?). Also, I do like the graphical control panel that Synchronet has for Windows. I remember seeing a graphical SBBS monitor for Linux, but I don't remember if that's something that's still maintained or not.

    Yeah, Don't really think you'll get any 32 bit doors going (guessing) and sbbsctrl is cool and very powerful, gtkmonitor, and even umonitor under linux are pretty darn powerful also, but they don't quite have all the features of sbbsctrl.

    but for me the pros far outweight the cons, even with my limited knowledge across the board :)

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  • From Al@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Apr 6 12:56:56 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri Apr 06 2018 09:55 am

    One of the reasons I haven't moved my BBS to Linux is that I do have a couple of Win32 BBS doors on my BBS, and at least one seemed somewhat popular.. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to run Win32 BBS doors in Linux (not sure if Wine would work?).

    I don't think that will work. Also, dosemu doesn't support DPMI on 64bit so if you ever want to try any DOS doors that use DPMI or ring 0 like Tradewars it's only possible on 32bit.

    Also, I do like the graphical control panel that Synchronet has for Windows. I remember seeing a graphical SBBS monitor for Linux, but I don't remember if that's something that's still maintained or not.

    It does work.. I ran it a week or two ago. I'm not sure if it's identical to the windows interface.. you'd have to try it and see. I'm sure Deuce would be interested in hearing about anything that doesn't work as you'd expect.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to NIGHTFOX on Fri Apr 6 14:10:00 2018
    A few months ago, I finally upgraded my BBS VM from Windows XP to Windows 7 N>32-bit. I was seeing sbbsctrl crash occasionally in Windows XP (particularly N>when reading messages with my message reader), but I haven't seen it crash in N>Windows 7. I'll probably stick with Windows 7 on my BBS machine for a while, N>unless I have a pressing reason to upgrade it at some point in the future.

    I don't recall it crashing under XP, but the Control Panel has crashed
    at times under Windows 7. All I have to do is restart it (Run As Administrator), but if it occurs overnight, or if I'm out on errands, it
    waits until I get back home.

    I've also considered moving my BBS to Linux at some point.. But, I have it N>working right now and I'm not sure if I want to bother with that yet.

    I don't have the desire to learn a new OS.

    Daryl

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Al on Fri Apr 6 18:00:54 2018

    On 2018 Apr 06 12:56:56, you wrote to Nightfox:

    One of the reasons I haven't moved my BBS to Linux is that I do have
    a couple of Win32 BBS doors on my BBS, and at least one seemed
    somewhat popular.. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to run Win32
    BBS doors in Linux (not sure if Wine would work?).

    I don't think that will work. Also, dosemu doesn't support DPMI on
    64bit so if you ever want to try any DOS doors that use DPMI or ring 0 like Tradewars it's only possible on 32bit.

    EMS still works, AFAIK... possibly also XMS...

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  • From Al@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Fri Apr 6 22:32:12 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: mark lewis to Al on Fri Apr 06 2018 06:00 pm

    I don't think that will work. Also, dosemu doesn't support DPMI on
    64bit so if you ever want to try any DOS doors that use DPMI or
    ring 0 like Tradewars it's only possible on 32bit.

    EMS still works, AFAIK... possibly also XMS...

    It probably does, I haven't tried to run anything in dosemu for some time. I was trying to pkunzip something a short while ago and I guess it uses DPMI by default and failed. I'll have to remember the switch to disable it.

    Tradewars is apparently a no go on 64 bit. The DPMI version doesn't work and neither does the other version because of ring 0. I'm not sure what that is but that is what I have read.

    Folks may need to run a 32bit linux for doors like folks run a 32bit windows.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Sat Apr 7 16:54:59 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Daryl Stout to NIGHTFOX on Fri Apr 06 2018 02:10 pm

    I don't recall it crashing under XP, but the Control Panel has crashed
    at times under Windows 7. All I have to do is restart it (Run As Administrator), but if it occurs overnight, or if I'm out on errands, it waits until I get back home.

    Why do you run it as Administrator? I've never had to run sbbsctrl as admin and it has always worked fine for me.

    I've also considered moving my BBS to Linux at some point.. But, I
    have it working right now and I'm not sure if I want to bother with
    that yet.

    I don't have the desire to learn a new OS.

    ah.. I'm familiar with Linux so for me it wouldn't be too difficult of a transition. My BBS is actually running in a Win7 VM with VirtualBox running on Linux.

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to NIGHTFOX on Sat Apr 7 21:57:00 2018
    Why do you run it as Administrator? I've never had to run sbbsctrl as admin N>and it has always worked fine for me.

    I had some problems previously when I didn't. If I don't need to do
    that, I can put several things in the start-up file. But, after a
    downtime (such as overnight thunderstorms), I like to update the weather
    data, and do a netmail run, before bringing the BBS back up.

    Daryl

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Al on Sun Apr 8 14:18:40 2018

    On 2018 Apr 06 22:32:12, you wrote to me:

    I don't think that will work. Also, dosemu doesn't support DPMI on
    64bit so if you ever want to try any DOS doors that use DPMI or ring
    0 like Tradewars it's only possible on 32bit.

    EMS still works, AFAIK... possibly also XMS...

    It probably does, I haven't tried to run anything in dosemu for some
    time. I was trying to pkunzip something a short while ago and I guess
    it uses DPMI by default and failed. I'll have to remember the switch
    to disable it.

    why remember? it'll tell you... just type pkunzip (or pkzip even) with no filename... it'll give you a help screen... hit '4' and it'll show you the memory options...

    here it is paraphrased...

    -3 disable 32-bit instructions on 386 or higher CPU
    -^ echo the command line
    -+ disable EMS usage
    -- disable UMB/HMA (XMS) usage
    -~ disable network usage
    -) disable 32bit DPMI usage
    -( use slow memcopy



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  • From Al@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Sun Apr 8 19:02:18 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: mark lewis to Al on Sun Apr 08 2018 02:18 pm

    why remember? it'll tell you... just type pkunzip (or pkzip even) with no filename... it'll give you a help screen... hit '4' and it'll show you the memory options...

    Thank you. I still have a task that needs to be completed.. so I think I can do it now.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue Apr 10 09:52:50 2018
    Re: New Problems
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri Apr 06 2018 09:55 am

    One of the reasons I haven't moved my BBS to Linux is that I do have a couple of Win32 BBS doors on my BBS, and at least one seemed somewhat

    I set up a test Synchronet instance on a VPS and it went quite smoothly, the hurdles for me are bink and file areas. I don't think allfix would run under DOSEMU and haven't had the time to look at either tickit or the husky linux tools.

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