Hi also I forgot to mention on the last post about IMAP. I read on the wiki this can be enabled? So can I then not use the SBBS mail server and just enable IMAP instead. Then create an email acount such as amstrad@amstrad.simulant.uk on my server for postfix to use. Then the IMAP function will sent and receive email and pass it back and forth to users on the BBS with that? Or does it not work like this?

I'm just looking for a simple way to set up emails really without messing up my shared server with postfix on there already.

Many thanks for helping :)


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Re: IMAP too?
By: Simulant to Digital Man on Fri Mar 09 2018 04:56 pm

Hi also I forgot to mention on the last post about IMAP. I read on the wiki this can be enabled?

Yes, it's a separate service that is easily enabled in your ctrl/services.ini file (it's not part of the "mail server" proper).

So can I then not use the SBBS mail server and just
enable IMAP instead. Then create an email acount such as amstrad@amstrad.simulant.uk on my server for postfix to use. Then the IMAP function will sent and receive email and pass it back and forth to users on the BBS with that? Or does it not work like this?

That's not how the IMAP protocol works. You can't *send* email using IMAP.

I'm just looking for a simple way to set up emails really without messing up my shared server with postfix on there already.

Yeah, I don't IMAP is going to help with that. IMAP is modern replacement for POP3, not SMTP.

digital man

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Digital Man wrote to Simulant <=-

Yes, it's a separate service that is easily enabled in your ctrl/services.ini file (it's not part of the "mail server" proper).

Are there any known issues with IMAP. I was running it successfully on SBBS 3.16c, as I prefer using IMAP to access Internet email. Since rebuilding the BBS on 3.17A, I haven't been able to get it working. I'll enable IMAP again and give details from the error log during the next week. But busy this weekend, haven't got the head space to test.


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Re: Re: IMAP too?
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sat Mar 10 2018 04:54 pm

Digital Man wrote to Simulant <=-

Yes, it's a separate service that is easily enabled in your ctrl/services.ini file (it's not part of the "mail server" proper).

Are there any known issues with IMAP.

I don't think so. I don't use it, but Deuce does and regularly makes updates to it when he identifies or is informed of issues with it.

I was running it successfully on SBBS
3.16c, as I prefer using IMAP to access Internet email. Since rebuilding the BBS on 3.17A, I haven't been able to get it working. I'll enable IMAP again and give details from the error log during the next week. But busy this weekend, haven't got the head space to test.

Okay. You might have the best luck catching Deuce in #synchronet, irc.synchro.net

digital man

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Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I don't think so. I don't use it, but Deuce does and regularly makes updates to it when he identifies or is informed of issues with it.

Will have to check in with him.

Okay. You might have the best luck catching Deuce in #synchronet, irc.synchro.net

That may be easier said than done, haven't had a lot of time for real time chat of late, but will see what I can do. :)


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Re: Re: IMAP too?
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sat Mar 10 2018 09:47 pm

Okay. You might have the best luck catching Deuce in #synchronet, irc.synchro.net

That may be easier said than done, haven't had a lot of time for real time chat of late, but will see what I can do. :)

Here's what you do:

1. Install an IRC client on your desktop computer (if haven't already)
2. Goto #synchronet at irc.synchro.net
3. Type your detailed question
4. Go do your real-life stuff (leaving the desktop computer and IRC client running)
5. Come back and scroll back and look for the answer to your question (modern IRC clients will give you a visual indicator of the "new" traffic since you last looked)

:-)

digital man

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Re: IMAP too?
By: Digital Man to Simulant on Fri Mar 09 2018 02:54 pm

Re: IMAP too?
By: Simulant to Digital Man on Fri Mar 09 2018 04:56 pm

Hi also I forgot to mention on the last post about IMAP. I read on the wi this can be enabled?

Yes, it's a separate service that is easily enabled in your ctrl/services.in file (it's not part of the "mail server" proper).

So can I then not use the SBBS mail server and just
enable IMAP instead. Then create an email acount such as amstrad@amstrad.simulant.uk on my server for postfix to use. Then the IMA function will sent and receive email and pass it back and forth to users the BBS with that? Or does it not work like this?

That's not how the IMAP protocol works. You can't *send* email using IMAP.

I'm just looking for a simple way to set up emails really without messing my shared server with postfix on there already.

Yeah, I don't IMAP is going to help with that. IMAP is modern replacement fo POP3, not SMTP.

digital man

ah yes of course. So should I enable it to help with incoming mail or is there no benefit? Mail seems to come in now so must be relaying over through postfix via that relay rule I added in the transport file. (see my previous reply to the other message thread). Thanks again :)








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Re: IMAP too?
By: Simulant to Digital Man on Sat Mar 10 2018 04:30 pm

I'm just looking for a simple way to set up emails really without messing my shared server with postfix on there already.

Yeah, I don't IMAP is going to help with that. IMAP is modern replacement fo POP3, not SMTP.

ah yes of course. So should I enable it to help with incoming mail or is there no benefit?

No benefit. Transfering mail between servers/domains is done with SMTP. IMAP is not a replacement for SMTP.

IMAP (or POP3) is used to transfer mail between a mail server and a *client* (e.g. mail program running on a desktop computer, tablet, phone).

Mail seems to come in now so must be relaying over through
postfix via that relay rule I added in the transport file. (see my previous reply to the other message thread). Thanks again :)

Okay, good.

digital man

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Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Here's what you do:

1. Install an IRC client on your desktop computer (if haven't already)
2. Goto #synchronet at irc.synchro.net
3. Type your detailed question
4. Go do your real-life stuff (leaving the desktop computer and IRC
client running)
5. Come back and scroll back and look for the answer to your question (modern IRC clients will give you a visual indicator of the "new"
traffic since you last looked)

If I can manage to wade through all of the intervening chat. :)


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Re: IMAP too?
By: Digital Man to Simulant on Sat Mar 10 2018 01:50 pm

ah yes of course. So should I enable it to help with incoming mail or is there no benefit?

No benefit. Transfering mail between servers/domains is done with SMTP. IMAP not a replacement for SMTP.

IMAP (or POP3) is used to transfer mail between a mail server and a *client* (e.g. mail program running on a desktop computer, tablet, phone).

So IMAP is only relay useful to check your SBBS email box via a client or mail app? Or if you're moving a load of mail from one mailbox to another or such?
If the email is being forwarded externally too it isn't really needed? I think I'm starting to catch on haha!

:)

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Re: Re: IMAP too?
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sun Mar 11 2018 09:40 pm

Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Here's what you do:

1. Install an IRC client on your desktop computer (if haven't already) 2. Goto #synchronet at irc.synchro.net
3. Type your detailed question
4. Go do your real-life stuff (leaving the desktop computer and IRC client running)
5. Come back and scroll back and look for the answer to your question (modern IRC clients will give you a visual indicator of the "new" traffic since you last looked)

If I can manage to wade through all of the intervening chat. :)

Sure. But that chat is enlightening! Oh, and modern IRC clients can highlight your nick (name), so it's obvious when people reply to your question.

digital man

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Re: Re: IMAP too?
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sun Mar 11 2018 21:40:00

Here's what you do:

1. Install an IRC client on your desktop computer (if haven't
already) 2. Goto #synchronet at irc.synchro.net
3. Type your detailed question
4. Go do your real-life stuff (leaving the desktop computer and IRC
client running)
5. Come back and scroll back and look for the answer to your
question (modern IRC clients will give you a visual indicator of the
"new" traffic since you last looked)

If I can manage to wade through all of the intervening chat. :)

I thoght that was what echomail was for though.

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Re: Re: IMAP too?
By: KK4QBN to Vk3jed on Sun Mar 11 2018 08:35 pm

If I can manage to wade through all of the intervening chat. :)

I thoght that was what echomail was for though.

It is, but Deuce is not currently monitoring echomail.

digital man

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Re: Re: IMAP too?
By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Sun Mar 11 2018 20:16:25

I thoght that was what echomail was for though.

It is, but Deuce is not currently monitoring echomail.

Ahh.. I see. I just about don't need to ask why either.. :)

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Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Sure. But that chat is enlightening! Oh, and modern IRC clients can highlight your nick (name), so it's obvious when people reply to your question.

True. :)


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