• Re: Answering Page For Ch

    From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Fri Feb 2 18:02:00 2018
    Tony,

    That's why one uses a speaker than can have the plug pulled. :D Actually, m TL>board became a sort of confessional every now and then, I've had users share TL>some pretty deep and personal things, so I was more like a counsellor or TL>bartender at times. :) It did mean that I never got sick of being paged, TL>because chances were it was something worth talking about or at least listen TL>to.

    The DreamNet doors by Andy Stewart had a deal where you could get
    different ANSI music when you got paged. The thing about those doors,
    though...

    1) You need the DOSFIX (TP7P5FIX) TSR, as they won't run on CPU's faster
    than 233 Mhz.

    2) If the BBS doors are used, they work BEST under Synchronet, with the "Console" comport intercept, and a DOOR.SYS dropfile. None of those
    programs had a fossil driver.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Sat Feb 3 16:54:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    The DreamNet doors by Andy Stewart had a deal where you could get different ANSI music when you got paged. The thing about those doors, though...

    I never used a door, just the default page function in RA.

    1) You need the DOSFIX (TP7P5FIX) TSR, as they won't run on CPU's
    faster than 233 Mhz.

    2) If the BBS doors are used, they work BEST under Synchronet, with the "Console" comport intercept, and a DOOR.SYS dropfile. None of those programs had a fossil driver.

    And I'm not going to jump through the hoops needed to get them to run on a Pi when the BBS software is native.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sat Feb 3 16:45:00 2018
    Tony,

    The DreamNet doors by Andy Stewart had a deal where you could get different ANSI music when you got paged. The thing about those doors, though...

    I never used a door, just the default page function in RA.

    No experience with RA.

    And I'm not going to jump through the hoops needed to get them to run on a P TL>when the BBS software is native.

    That's the only drawback with non-fossil doors. Too bad that the late
    Dave Perry, W4KGU (SK) did has ham radio doors without a fossil driver.
    Those doors included:

    ARPD - Amateur Radio Packet Door -- allow licensed hams to use your TNC
    to access the area Packet Network. Worked best with the MFJ 1270-C TNC.

    BULLET -- Bulletins Door. Allows 26 entries on whatever category you wanted...ham radio, weather, BBSing, cooking, etc.

    REGSCAN -- Allows searching of Part 97 of the FCC Rules concerning ham
    radio in the U.S. and its territories. An updated Part 97 file is
    required (I have a formatted text version available for download).

    WASPORT -- Track your progress in ARRL's Worked All States competion,
    with a "special mode" configured by the Sysop. I chose VoIP, even
    though it doesn't count for the award...but it does let you keep track
    how many states you've worked with it.

    QRZDOOR -- Obsolete now...you needed a data CD with the callsigns from
    QRZ. They stopped doing that 3 years ago, and I've since replaced that
    with the BuckMaster Ham Radio Callsign CD (subscription based), but you
    get monthly updates...and with the Doorway program and a utility, users
    can use it like they did the QRZ Callsign Door.

    I restricted ARPD, WASPORT, and QRZDOOR (now the Buckmaster Callsign
    Search Door) to licensed amateur radio operators. No license is required
    for BULLET or REGSCAN.

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    Tell that to Caryn Eve Murray, KD2GUT, editor of Amateur Radio
    Newsline...she loves squirrels. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sat Feb 3 16:48:00 2018
    Tony,

    I've seen sysop pager/chat doors that let you configure what hours to allow users to page you. I don't remember if Synchronet has that feature..

    I have a feeling Synchronet does have this feature.

    I know you can set the setting for whether the Sysop is available or not...but the "alarm" (short Sysop page) still goes off, when a user
    chooses that option.

    Yet, the only time I'm at the computer is when I'm working on the BBS,
    or doing my ham radio traffic nets.

    Daryl
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Sat Feb 3 19:16:56 2018
    Re: Re: Answering Page For Ch
    By: Daryl Stout to TONY LANGDON on Sat Feb 03 2018 04:48 pm

    Tony,

    I've seen sysop pager/chat doors that let you configure what hours to allow users to page you. I don't remember if Synchronet has that feature..

    I have a feeling Synchronet does have this feature.

    I know you can set the setting for whether the Sysop is available or not...but the "alarm" (short Sysop page) still goes off, when a user
    chooses that option.

    The pager (internal or external) should not go off if the sysop isn't "available" unless the user has the 'C' exemption or "Sysop Chat Override" requirements set in SCFG->System->Advanced Options.

    digital man

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Feb 3 21:39:00 2018
    Rob,

    The pager (internal or external) should not go off if the sysop isn't DM>"available" unless the user has the 'C' exemption or "Sysop Chat Override" DM>requirements set in SCFG->System->Advanced Options.

    I'll have to check that, as I have the deal set to "not available",
    and the short sysop page goes off when activated by the user.

    Daryl

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Sun Feb 4 00:47:40 2018
    Re: Re: Answering Page For Ch
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Sat Feb 03 2018 09:39 pm

    Rob,

    The pager (internal or external) should not go off if the sysop isn't DM>"available" unless the user has the 'C' exemption or "Sysop Chat Override" DM>requirements set in SCFG->System->Advanced Options.

    I'll have to check that, as I have the deal set to "not available",
    and the short sysop page goes off when activated by the user.

    Check their exemptions that that setting in SCFG.

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 5 17:00:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I never used a door, just the default page function in RA.

    No experience with RA.

    I quite liked RA.

    And I'm not going to jump through the hoops needed to get them to run on a

    when the BBS software is native.

    That's the only drawback with non-fossil doors. Too bad that the late Dave Perry, W4KGU (SK) did has ham radio doors without a fossil driver. Those doors included:

    Well, I'm also dealing with non PC architecture.

    ARPD - Amateur Radio Packet Door -- allow licensed hams to use your TNC
    to access the area Packet Network. Worked best with the MFJ 1270-C TNC.

    Neat. Wouldn't mind playing with something like that. Probvably have to setup my own door server on a PC. The callsign door also sounds interesting. The rest are a bit US centric, and not likely to be of much use.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 5 17:01:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I know you can set the setting for whether the Sysop is available or not...but the "alarm" (short Sysop page) still goes off, when a user chooses that option.

    Oh, OK.

    Yet, the only time I'm at the computer is when I'm working on the
    BBS, or doing my ham radio traffic nets.

    I access mine remotely.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Mon Feb 5 12:47:00 2018
    Tony,

    ARPD - Amateur Radio Packet Door -- allow licensed hams to use your TNC to access the area Packet Network. Worked best with the MFJ 1270-C TNC.

    Neat. Wouldn't mind playing with something like that. Probvably have to se TL>my own door server on a PC. The callsign door also sounds interesting. The TL>rest are a bit US centric, and not likely to be of much use.

    I have had trouble setting it back up under Synchronet...even though
    I'm setting it up like the other doors that W4KGU did. For some reason,
    it thinks the comport is already open, so you can't do a connect.

    I think the Buckmaster CD does have worldwide callsign searches. I
    know that the hamdata.com website mainly just has U.S. and Canadian
    callsigns.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Wed Feb 7 09:15:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I have had trouble setting it back up under Synchronet...even though
    I'm setting it up like the other doors that W4KGU did. For some reason,
    it thinks the comport is already open, so you can't do a connect.

    I'm sure Buckmaster is global, though data quality outside of the US is dependent on user contributions.

    I think the Buckmaster CD does have worldwide callsign searches. I
    know that the hamdata.com website mainly just has U.S. and Canadian callsigns.

    Definitely useful.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Wed Feb 7 11:18:00 2018
    Tony,

    I'm sure Buckmaster is global, though data quality outside of the US is TL>dependent on user contributions.

    I had one user to a Digital Hams Facebook Group have his callsign data witheld, upon his request. That was the first time I had ever heard of
    that.

    Daryl
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Fri Feb 9 06:46:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I had one user to a Digital Hams Facebook Group have his callsign
    data witheld, upon his request. That was the first time I had ever
    heard of that.

    That's different. I've seen address details suppressed, I ay have heard of callsigns being hidden by the authorities by request, not 100% sure.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Fri Feb 9 16:29:00 2018
    Tony,

    I had one user to a Digital Hams Facebook Group have his callsign data witheld, upon his request. That was the first time I had ever heard of that.

    That's different. I've seen address details suppressed, I ay have heard of TL>callsigns being hidden by the authorities by request, not 100% sure.

    That was still the first time I had run across that.

    In the U.S. and its territories, your mailing address has to be
    somewhere where you can receive mail from the U.S. Postal Service. It
    can be a street address, a street address with an apartment number, or
    in my case, a Post Office Box. That keeps my home address private.

    Daryl
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Sun Feb 11 06:29:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    That's different. I've seen address details suppressed, I ay have heard of
    callsigns being hidden by the authorities by request, not 100% sure.

    That was still the first time I had run across that.

    In the U.S. and its territories, your mailing address has to be somewhere where you can receive mail from the U.S. Postal Service. It
    can be a street address, a street address with an apartment number, or
    in my case, a Post Office Box. That keeps my home address private.

    I think it was more in the days of the printed call books, where there was an extra layer between the government and publication, but today, most people use the online databases. A PO box is a surefire way to get around the issue, in any case.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sun Feb 11 12:15:00 2018
    Tony,

    I think it was more in the days of the printed call books, where there was a TL>extra layer between the government and publication, but today, most people u TL>the online databases. A PO box is a surefire way to get around the issue, i TL>any case.

    I'm glad some of the old callbooks are online. The way the rules are
    now, in the U.S. and its territories, if you previously held a General, Advanced, or Amateur Extra Class license, that has been expired over 2
    years, you can get back into the hobby by just passing the Technician
    exam, paying the appropriate exam fee, filling out the needed paperwork
    (what did you expect for it being processed by a government agency??
    <G>), and providing PROOF of that previous license.

    The U.S. did away with the 13 and 20 WPM CW requirement in 2000, then
    got rid of the 5 WPM CW requirement in 2007. People are now learning CW
    because they WANT to...and NOT because they HAVE to.

    Ironically, about 2 weeks either side of the U.S. dropping the CW
    requirement altogether, the VibroPlex Company (which makes code keyers),
    had their phones "ringing off the wall" with folks wanting them!!

    Daryl

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  • From Vk3jed@1:103/705 to Daryl Stout on Wed Feb 14 08:12:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I'm glad some of the old callbooks are online. The way the rules are now, in the U.S. and its territories, if you previously held a General, Advanced, or Amateur Extra Class license, that has been expired over 2 years, you can get back into the hobby by just passing the Technician exam, paying the appropriate exam fee, filling out the needed paperwork (what did you expect for it being processed by a government agency??
    <G>), and providing PROOF of that previous license.

    Well, here, I believe all you have to do is show your old certificate of proficiency to get a new licence.

    The U.S. did away with the 13 and 20 WPM CW requirement in 2000, then got rid of the 5 WPM CW requirement in 2007. People are now learning CW because they WANT to...and NOT because they HAVE to.

    Australia got rid of the 10WPM Morse in 2000, and the n5WPM in 2005. CW is still very popular, many people are choosing to take up the mode, which is good to see.

    Ironically, about 2 weeks either side of the U.S. dropping the CW requirement altogether, the VibroPlex Company (which makes code
    keyers), had their phones "ringing off the wall" with folks wanting
    them!!

    I'm not surprised. I noticed a big surge in interest in Morse when the requirement was dropped here. Something I had said for many years would happen. CW has one characteristic that can never be surpassed, it is simple, yet effective. Sure, today there's digital modes that can leave CW for dead, but they require complex DSP algorithms in computers. Morse just requires a source of detectable energy (normally RF!) that can be turned on and off. ;)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to VK3JED on Wed Feb 14 10:57:00 2018
    Tony,

    Well, here, I believe all you have to do is show your old certificate of V>proficiency to get a new licence.

    The American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the National Association for
    amateur radio in the U.S. and its territories, still offers a "code
    proficiency certificate" for those copying CW at certain speeds from
    W1AW, their flagship station. And like most, there is a fee for it.

    Australia got rid of the 10WPM Morse in 2000, and the n5WPM in 2005. CW is V>still very popular, many people are choosing to take up the mode, which is go V>to see.

    Folks are learning CW because they WANT to...NOT because they HAVE
    to!! The F.I.S.T. group has had a surge in members because of it.

    I'm not surprised. I noticed a big surge in interest in Morse when the V>requirement was dropped here. Something I had said for many years would V>happen. CW has one characteristic that can never be surpassed, it is simple, V>yet effective. Sure, today there's digital modes that can leave CW for dead V>but they require complex DSP algorithms in computers. Morse just requires a V>source of detectable energy (normally RF!) that can be turned on and off. ;)

    And, it gets through when nothing else does.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Thu Feb 15 19:17:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    The American Radio Relay League (ARRL), the National Association for amateur radio in the U.S. and its territories, still offers a "code proficiency certificate" for those copying CW at certain speeds from
    W1AW, their flagship station. And like most, there is a fee for it.

    Still, something to aim for. :)

    Folks are learning CW because they WANT to...NOT because they HAVE
    to!! The F.I.S.T. group has had a surge in members because of it.

    Yes, I think the best thing to happen to Morse was the removal of it as a requirement, so now it becomes a challenge to take on.

    And, it gets through when nothing else does.

    As I said, some digital modes do better, but not with the same elegant simplicity.


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