• Avatars with PabloDraw

    From Nightfox@1:103/705 to All on Fri Jan 19 13:07:29 2018
    Hi all,

    Using PabloDraw, I created a .bin file with a set of 4 avatars. I saw the PabloDraw tips on the Synchronet wiki not to use iCE colors and to add an extra line to the bottom when saving, as well as using 'jsexec sauce' to edit the sauce comments, all of which I have done. However, the last avatar is not being displayed by avatar_chooser.js. I ran 'jsexec avatars verify' to verify my .bin file, and it says it has invalid SAUCE (datatype=5 cols=10 size=460). I'm not sure exactly what I need to do to fix it.. Is the size perhaps incorrect?

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Jan 19 13:45:29 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nightfox to All on Fri Jan 19 2018 01:07 pm

    Hi all,

    Using PabloDraw, I created a .bin file with a set of 4 avatars. I saw the PabloDraw tips on the Synchronet wiki not to use iCE colors and to add an extra line to the bottom when saving, as well as using 'jsexec sauce' to edit the sauce comments, all of which I have done. However, the last avatar is not being displayed by avatar_chooser.js. I ran 'jsexec avatars verify' to verify my .bin file, and it says it has invalid SAUCE (datatype=5 cols=10 size=460). I'm not sure exactly what I need to do to fix it.. Is the size perhaps incorrect?

    Each avatar is 120 bytes (10 x 6 x 2), so 460 would be an invalid size (not evenly divisible by 120) - so either the last avatar wasn't 6 lines high or you re-saved in pablodraw without adding the extra line (to account for that bug). Just reload it in pablodraw and double-check it (and add the extra line before saving).

    digital man

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  • From Kirkman@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Fri Jan 19 18:41:18 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nightfox to All on Fri Jan 19 2018 01:07 pm

    Using PabloDraw, I created a .bin file with a set of 4 avatars. I saw the PabloDraw tips on the Synchronet wiki not to use iCE colors and to add an extra line to the bottom when saving, as well as using 'jsexec sauce' to edit the sauce comments, all of which I have done. However, the last avatar is not being displayed by avatar_chooser.js. I ran 'jsexec avatars verify' to verify my .bin file, and it says it has invalid SAUCE (datatype=5 cols=10 size=460). I'm not sure exactly what I need to do to fix it.. Is the size perhaps incorrect?

    It's almost certainly that extra-line bug in PabloDraw. Pablo truncates BIN files by one line when it saves them. Make sure to add an extra line at the bottom before you save. I usually just type the letter "x".

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Kirkman on Fri Jan 19 17:09:33 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Kirkman to Nightfox on Fri Jan 19 2018 06:41 pm

    It's almost certainly that extra-line bug in PabloDraw. Pablo truncates BIN files by one line when it saves them. Make sure to add an extra line at the bottom before you save. I usually just type the letter "x".

    Ah, I was simply adding an extra blank line at the end, and perhaps PabloDraw was removing that. I added a line with an "x" like you said, and that seems to have worked.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Jan 19 18:09:28 2018
    Hello,

    On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:45:28 -0800, Digital Man -> Nightfox wrote:

    Just reload it in pablodraw and double-check it (and add the extra line before saving).

    Look at you getting all artistic!

    I also saw your R2D2 via one of echicken's links or screenshots of making this all available via his web stuff. I'm damn impressed for a guy that claims he's not an artist! ;)

    Kudos, this is a neat mod that I'd like to incorporate at some point. However my message header is currently unable to display it (ansi plus message information), so I would have to come up with something entirely different, or just go back to a text header which leaves a lot of space to play with.

    God forbid I dust off my Pablodraw. I don't think I've drawn anything to completion since uhh, my last releases in Blocktronics.. I blame kids. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nicholas Boel on Fri Jan 19 18:16:39 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nicholas Boel to Digital Man on Fri Jan 19 2018 06:09 pm

    Hello,

    On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:45:28 -0800, Digital Man -> Nightfox wrote:

    Just reload it in pablodraw and double-check it (and add the extra line before saving).

    Look at you getting all artistic!

    I also saw your R2D2 via one of echicken's links or screenshots of making this all available via his web stuff. I'm damn impressed for a guy that claims he's not an artist! ;)

    Well I've improved a lot in a week. When I first started experimenting a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't make a decent circle to save my life. After many hours of drawing Star Wars figures and musical instruments, etc., I think I'm okay now.

    Kudos, this is a neat mod that I'd like to incorporate at some point. However my message header is currently unable to display it (ansi plus message information), so I would have to come up with something entirely different, or just go back to a text header which leaves a lot of space to play with.

    The current scheme is to display the avatar (10 x 6) right justified, over-writing any header information that may have happened to reach that area of the screen (very rare, at least normally).

    So if you update to the latest 3.17, it'll just do that (by running showmsgavatar.js), unless you have a custom msghdr.asc (do you?) in which case you need to add an INCLUDE @-code to execute showmsgavatar.js or create your own if you don't that display area doesn't work for you.

    God forbid I dust off my Pablodraw. I don't think I've drawn anything to completion since uhh, my last releases in Blocktronics.. I blame kids. ;)

    My kids have actually enjoyed grading my avatars. We play a game where I ask them to identify them (without any text or clues) and if they can't, then I work on it some more. :-) They help me correct for my color-blindness too.

    digital man

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 01:20:02 2018
    Hello,

    On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:16:38 -0800, Digital Man -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    Well I've improved a lot in a week. When I first started experimenting a couple of weeks ago, I couldn't make a decent circle to save my life. After many hours of drawing Star Wars figures and musical instruments, etc., I think I'm okay now.

    That's all it really takes, is time and patience in a limited artform. Unfortunately these days, I don't have much of either between carting my son to

    wrestling, or working on dinner when the wife takes our daughter to gymnastics or dance classes.

    The current scheme is to display the avatar (10 x 6) right justified, over-writing any header information that may have happened to reach that area of the screen (very rare, at least normally).

    So if you update to the latest 3.17, it'll just do that (by running showmsgavatar.js), unless you have a custom msghdr.asc (do you?) in
    which case you need to add an INCLUDE @-code to execute
    showmsgavatar.js or create your own if you don't that display area
    doesn't work for you.

    I'm updated and have it all. But yes, I have a custom msghdr.asc which takes up

    the entire left side of the screen with ANSI, and the right side has all the header information. It fits my theme wonderfully, so changing things up to allow for an additional 10x6 picture would impose problems. However, I don't see it as something difficult, I just have to come up with something I like (that's the problem, lol).

    Anal retentiveness and all that. ;)

    My kids have actually enjoyed grading my avatars. We play a game where I ask them to identify them (without any text or clues) and if they can't, then I work on it some more. :-) They help me correct for my color-blindness too.

    Your kids are probably a little older than mine. Keeping attention in something

    they have no idea about is still pretty tough at this point (10 and 7).

    I'm more excited our son takes to any sport he wants to try, and ends up pretty

    damn good at it (he's the older one). Same for our daughter.. We tried soccer and a couple other things with her and she showed no interest.. until we put her in the most ********* expensive thing (gymnastics and/or dance) and all of a sudden she loves it! (she has no idea on the price, of course.. just figures it would happen that way. Divas, and all. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 20 03:57:12 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nicholas Boel to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 2018 01:20 am

    My kids have actually enjoyed grading my avatars. We play a game where I ask them to identify them (without any text or clues) and if they can't, then I work on it some more. :-) They help me correct for my color-blindness too.

    Your kids are probably a little older than mine. Keeping attention in something
    they have no idea about is still pretty tough at this point (10 and 7).

    Yup, 11 to 16.

    I'm more excited our son takes to any sport he wants to try, and ends up pretty
    damn good at it (he's the older one). Same for our daughter.. We tried soccer and a couple other things with her and she showed no interest.. until we put her in the most ********* expensive thing (gymnastics and/or dance) and all of a sudden she loves it! (she has no idea on the price, of course.. just figures it would happen that way. Divas, and all. ;)

    Ha! Try 6 years of club volleyball. Definitely, *not* cheap. She retired at the end of last season (summer '17), so next up college. <sigh>

    Luckily the other two didn't really take to sports. :-)

    digital man

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 15:41:52 2018
    Hello,

    On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 03:57:12 -0800, Digital Man -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    Ha! Try 6 years of club volleyball. Definitely, *not* cheap. She retired at the end of last season (summer '17), so next up college. <sigh>

    Ouch, that doesn't sound like fun, and I definitely won't be looking forward to

    it. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 20 15:01:04 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nicholas Boel to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 2018 03:41 pm

    Hello,

    On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 03:57:12 -0800, Digital Man -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    Ha! Try 6 years of club volleyball. Definitely, *not* cheap. She retired at the end of last season (summer '17), so next up college. <sigh>

    Ouch, that doesn't sound like fun, and I definitely won't be looking forward to
    it. ;)

    Expensive, but fun. I miss it actually. :-/

    digital man

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 23:03:50 2018
    Hello,

    On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:01:04 -0800, Digital Man -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    Expensive, but fun. I miss it actually. :-/

    What, college?

    The thing that scares me is that most kids that go to college end up in a career they never went to college for in the first place. Basically completely shitting on all the money you spend on their additional schooling.

    Hopefully that won't be the case, but I have another 8 years to worry about that. ;)
    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 20 23:29:54 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nicholas Boel to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 2018 11:03 pm

    Hello,

    On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 15:01:04 -0800, Digital Man -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    Expensive, but fun. I miss it actually. :-/

    What, college?

    We're not sure yet. Possibly UC Irvine.

    The thing that scares me is that most kids that go to college end up in a career they never went to college for in the first place. Basically completely shitting on all the money you spend on their additional schooling.

    Hopefully that won't be the case, but I have another 8 years to worry about that. ;)

    Yeah. My oldest (16) has a 4.2 GPA and is already taking college courses, so she'll have a year of college credit done (for free, basically) by the time she graduates HS. And then we're hoping for some scholarship(s), so we don't go broke paying for it. That degree is definitely worth some duckets down the road though...

    digital man

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jan 21 02:16:44 2018
    Hello,

    On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 23:29:54 -0800, Digital Man -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    We're not sure yet. Possibly UC Irvine.

    No tech college interests?

    Yeah. My oldest (16) has a 4.2 GPA and is already taking college
    courses, so she'll have a year of college credit done (for free, basically) by the time she graduates HS. And then we're hoping for
    some scholarship(s), so we don't go broke paying for it. That degree
    is definitely worth some duckets down the road though...
    That's awesome. Our son (10) is getting random "extra and unnecessary" homework

    at the moment because he's a stud at math. I've tought him since he was like 2,

    so the whole "new math" thing has been an issue for him, even though he solves the problems without any of it and faster than kids 2 grades above him. ;)

    I've had meetings with his teachers, saying "he needs to show his work." So, it's been an extra showing him this new math crap. His teachers know he's above

    all others, but their new way of teaching is actually dragging him down.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nicholas Boel on Mon Jan 22 09:42:00 2018
    Nicholas Boel wrote to Digital Man <=-

    so the whole "new math" thing has been an issue for him, even though he solves the problems without any of it and faster than kids 2 grades
    above him. ;)

    This whole idea that there is only "one right way" to solve problems is a load of crap. If a kid can (1) get the right answer, and (2) demonstrate they knew what they were doing, to achieve that result, that's all that should matter. Everyone learns and works in different ways. I've certainly had times where it took more effort to show the method in an acceptable way than to actually get the right answer! :)

    all others, but their new way of teaching is actually dragging him
    down.

    The education system still hasn't learned how to be inclusive. :(


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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 22 09:23:55 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Digital Man to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 20 2018 11:29 pm

    Yeah. My oldest (16) has a 4.2 GPA and is already taking college courses,

    What scale is that? Most of the time, the highest possible GPA I've seen is 4.0.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Nicholas Boel on Mon Jan 22 09:28:50 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nicholas Boel to Digital Man on Sat Jan 20 2018 11:03 pm

    The thing that scares me is that most kids that go to college end up in a career they never went to college for in the first place. Basically completely shitting on all the money you spend on their additional schooling.

    I think there are some cases where someone might become unemployed due to no fault of their own (layed off, etc.) and they may end up taking a job unrelated to their degree because it's better than being jobless. But yeah, there are the cases where someone might just end up in an unrelated job for whatever reason.. If you go to college though, I think it's good to have a good idea of what you want to do with your life so you don't end up wasting all that college money. I imagine there are probably a lot of people whose parents push them to go to college right after high school and they don't know yet what they want to do with their life, and those are probably a lot of the people who end up in a job that's unrelated to their degree.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Jan 22 13:16:18 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Jan 22 2018 09:23 am

    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Digital Man to Nicholas Boel on Sat Jan 20 2018 11:29 pm

    Yeah. My oldest (16) has a 4.2 GPA and is already taking college courses,

    What scale is that? Most of the time, the highest possible GPA I've seen is 4.0.

    Yeah, I know. I always wondered how kids could get higher than a 4.0. The answer: they take AP and honors classes which award more "points" for a perfect A.

    digital man

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Jan 22 17:05:16 2018
    Re: Avatars with PabloDraw
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Mon Jan 22 2018 09:23 am

    Yeah. My oldest (16) has a 4.2 GPA and is already taking college
    courses,

    What scale is that? Most of the time, the highest possible GPA I've seen is 4.0.

    Maybe it's part of that "new math", where 2+2=5, and 10 grams equals 1 grampa. <G>

    Daryl

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