• Synchronet BBS Door

    From DesotoFireflite@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Wed Dec 13 12:26:03 2017
    Rob

    Very nice job on the new Synchronet BBS List Door.



    SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
    Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
    Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
    A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

    Play Trade Wars Between 10 Other BBS's On Valhalla's Trade Wars Game Server!

    Featuring Legion, A New RPG, Available On Both Systems!

    --- Don't eat the yellow snow!
    * Synchronet * Valhalla Home Services * USA * http://valhalla.synchro.net
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to DesotoFireflite on Wed Dec 13 10:42:44 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Wed Dec 13 2017 12:26 pm

    Rob

    Very nice job on the new Synchronet BBS List Door.

    Thanks. It was one of those long-time coming ideas that has been finally manifested.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #16:
    Synchronet first supported FidoNet networking (with SBBSFIDO) in 1992.
    Norco, CA WX: 77.5oF, 12.0% humidity, 0 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to DesotoFireflite on Wed Dec 13 18:43:19 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Wed Dec 13 2017 12:26:03

    Rob

    Very nice job on the new Synchronet BBS List Door.

    Yes, it's sweet.. don;t know if he caught my gloating or not.. but I love it..

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN BBS - kk4qbn.com - kk4qbn.synchro.net - Chatsworth GA USA
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thu Dec 14 12:42:25 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to e7r.#t|.X7r.+7r.a7r. on Wed Dec 13 2017 10:42 am

    I got the new Synchronet BBS door set up on my BBS yesterday. I think it's looking good.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Fri Dec 15 12:50:23 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Wed Dec 13 2017 10:42 am

    Hi DM,

    There's an issue I had seen using the old SBL door that I've seen again with the new JS version (so I suspect it might not be an issue with the door itself, but perhaps with how data is stored). For the "since" date for my BBS, I had originally entered 1994-05-01 (May 1, 1994), and yesterday in the JS BBS list door, I noticed it was shown as 1994-01-05. I had seen that in the old SBL door and had corrected that on Vertrauen. Yesterday I updated my BBS listing in the door on my BBS and corrected the date to 1994-05-01. I also made another update (removed a network I no longer carry); I checked my entry on Vertrauen, and I saw that it got the update (it doesn't have the network I removed), but its "since" date on Vertrauen still shows 1994-01-05 (month & day swapped).

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sun Dec 17 12:46:33 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Dec 15 2017 12:50 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Wed Dec 13 2017 10:42 am

    Hi DM,

    There's an issue I had seen using the old SBL door that I've seen again with the new JS version (so I suspect it might not be an issue with the door itself, but perhaps with how data is stored). For the "since" date for my BBS, I had originally entered 1994-05-01 (May 1, 1994), and yesterday in the JS BBS list door, I noticed it was shown as 1994-01-05. I had seen that in the old SBL door and had corrected that on Vertrauen. Yesterday I updated my BBS listing in the door on my BBS and corrected the date to 1994-05-01.
    I also made another update (removed a network I no longer carry); I checked my entry on Vertrauen, and I saw that it got the update (it doesn't have the network I removed), but its "since" date on Vertrauen still shows 1994-01-05 (month & day swapped).

    How do you have the setting SCFG->System->Toggle Options->European Date Format set? I'm pretty sure sbbslist.js won't import that date right if you have it set to European format. I'll have to fix that.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #35:
    The irc.synchro.net network has more servers than users.
    Norco, CA WX: 64.2oF, 21.0% humidity, 4 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sun Dec 17 17:21:07 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Dec 17 2017 12:46 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Dec 15 2017 12:50 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Wed Dec 13 2017 10:42 am

    Hi DM,

    There's an issue I had seen using the old SBL door that I've seen again with the new JS version (so I suspect it might not be an issue with the door itself, but perhaps with how data is stored). For the "since" date for my BBS, I had originally entered 1994-05-01 (May 1, 1994), and yesterday in the JS BBS list door, I noticed it was shown as 1994-01-05. I had seen that in the old SBL door and had corrected that on Vertrauen. Yesterday I updated my BBS listing in the door on my BBS and corrected the date to 1994-05-01.
    I also made another update (removed a network I no longer carry); I checked my entry on Vertrauen, and I saw that it got the update (it doesn't have the network I removed), but its "since" date on Vertrauen still shows 1994-01-05 (month & day swapped).

    How do you have the setting SCFG->System->Toggle Options->European Date Format set? I'm pretty sure sbbslist.js won't import that date right if you have it set to European format. I'll have to fix that.

    I just committed a fix for sbbslist.js so that "European date" setting won't change how the old SBL listings are imported.

    I could find no issue with the old SBL (SBL2SMB and SMB2SBL) with this regard.

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #36:
    Synchronet's Windows DLLs are built with Microsoft Visual Studio/C++.
    Norco, CA WX: 60.6oF, 22.0% humidity, 8 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Dec 17 18:31:03 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Dec 17 2017 12:46 pm

    There's an issue I had seen using the old SBL door that I've seen
    again with the new JS version (so I suspect it might not be an issue
    with the door itself, but perhaps with how data is stored). For the
    "since" date for my BBS, I had originally entered 1994-05-01 (May 1,
    1994), and yesterday in the JS BBS list door, I noticed it was shown
    as 1994-01-05. I had seen that in the old SBL door and had corrected

    How do you have the setting SCFG->System->Toggle Options->European Date Format set? I'm pretty sure sbbslist.js won't import that date right if you have it set to European format. I'll have to fix that.

    I have my European Date Format set to "No".

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Dec 17 18:31:37 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Dec 17 2017 05:21 pm

    I just committed a fix for sbbslist.js so that "European date" setting won't change how the old SBL listings are imported.

    I had my European Date Format setting set to "No", but I'll download the update and give it a try.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Dec 23 14:42:34 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Dec 17 2017 06:31 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Dec 17 2017 05:21 pm

    I just committed a fix for sbbslist.js so that "European date" setting won't change how the old SBL listings are imported.

    I had my European Date Format setting set to "No", but I'll download the update and give it a try.

    Did it make any difference?

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #13:
    Synchronet was the first BBS software to ship with internal QWK networking. Norco, CA WX: 64.9oF, 19.0% humidity, 2 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Dec 23 16:32:48 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Dec 23 2017 02:42 pm

    I had my European Date Format setting set to "No", but I'll download
    the update and give it a try.

    Did it make any difference?

    It looks like it didn't make a difference. After the update, I saved my BBS entry again on my machine; I just checked my entry on your BBS and it still lists the Since date with the month & day swapped.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Dec 23 19:24:28 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Dec 23 2017 04:32 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Dec 23 2017 02:42 pm

    I had my European Date Format setting set to "No", but I'll download
    the update and give it a try.

    Did it make any difference?

    It looks like it didn't make a difference. After the update, I saved my BBS entry again on my machine; I just checked my entry on your BBS and it still lists the Since date with the month & day swapped.

    The entry here on my BBS was created locally:

    Created by Nightfox on Apr 05 2009 locally

    So that means it can't (normally) be over-written via the network (syncdata message base). So... any changes you make, including the birth date, aren't going to be imported. sbbslist.js import (ran here reports this:

    Msg #5290 from Nightfox@DIGDIST: Nightfox@DIGDIST attempted to update/over-write local entry: Digital Distortion

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #52:
    Answers to Frequently Asked Questions: http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:index
    Norco, CA WX: 58.5oF, 23.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Dec 23 20:11:26 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Dec 23 2017 07:24 pm

    The entry here on my BBS was created locally:

    Created by Nightfox on Apr 05 2009 locally

    So that means it can't (normally) be over-written via the network (syncdata message base). So... any changes you make, including the birth date, aren't going to be imported. sbbslist.js import (ran here reports this:

    Msg #5290 from Nightfox@DIGDIST: Nightfox@DIGDIST attempted to update/over-write local entry: Digital Distortion

    I see.. I just logged onto Vertrauen and updated the Since date for my BBS. I had made an update to my BBS locally though and removed a message network I don't carry anymore, and it looked like that carried over to Vertrauen.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nightfox on Sun Dec 24 08:40:02 2017

    On 2017 Dec 23 20:11:26, you wrote to Digital Man:

    Msg #5290 from Nightfox@DIGDIST: Nightfox@DIGDIST attempted to
    update/over-write local entry: Digital Distortion

    I see.. I just logged onto Vertrauen and updated the Since date for my BBS.

    if i'm understanding this exchange between you and rob correctly, i think that if it were me and i wanted to maintain my listing from my bbs, i would log into
    Vert and delete my entry there... then i would update my entry on my BBS to make sure it is sent to Vert for further propagation...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... System Error: (A)bort (R)etry (C)onsume Chocolate.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sun Dec 24 13:57:11 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Dec 23 2017 08:11 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Dec 23 2017 07:24 pm

    The entry here on my BBS was created locally:

    Created by Nightfox on Apr 05 2009 locally

    So that means it can't (normally) be over-written via the network (syncdata message base). So... any changes you make, including the birth date, aren't going to be imported. sbbslist.js import (ran here reports this:

    Msg #5290 from Nightfox@DIGDIST: Nightfox@DIGDIST attempted to update/over-write local entry: Digital Distortion

    I see.. I just logged onto Vertrauen and updated the Since date for my BBS. I had made an update to my BBS locally though and removed a message network I don't carry anymore, and it looked like that carried over to Vertrauen.

    The entry here on Vert and yours on your BBS (and posted to SYNCDATA) should not be synchronized. Is it possible you just didn't have that networked listed in your entry on Vert from before?

    digital man

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #21:
    So when you're playing you feel like a preserved moose on stage?
    Norco, CA WX: 74.7oF, 12.0% humidity, 1 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Dec 24 14:19:26 2017
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Dec 24 2017 01:57 pm

    The entry here on Vert and yours on your BBS (and posted to SYNCDATA) should not be synchronized. Is it possible you just didn't have that networked listed in your entry on Vert from before?

    I suppose that's possible.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Mon Jan 1 22:32:46 2018
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Sun Dec 24 2017 08:40 am

    if i'm understanding this exchange between you and rob correctly, i think that if it were me and i wanted to maintain my listing from my bbs, i would log into Vert and delete my entry there... then i would update my entry on my BBS to make sure it is sent to Vert for further propagation...

    I tried that earlier today. I deleted my BBS entry on Vertrauen, and I even created a brand-new entry for my BBS on my local BBS. So far, it seems my entry hasn't shown up on Vertrauen yet.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Mon Jan 1 23:46:27 2018
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Mon Jan 01 2018 10:32 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Sun Dec 24 2017 08:40 am

    if i'm understanding this exchange between you and rob correctly, i think that if it were me and i wanted to maintain my listing from my bbs, i would log into Vert and delete my entry there... then i would update my entry on my BBS to make sure it is sent to Vert for further propagation...

    I tried that earlier today. I deleted my BBS entry on Vertrauen, and I even created a brand-new entry for my BBS on my local BBS. So far, it seems my entry hasn't shown up on Vertrauen yet.

    It is now:
    1/1 11:45:18p Msg #5329 from Nightfox@DIGDIST:
    1/1 11:45:18p Nightfox@DIGDIST creating new entry: Digital Distortion


    digital man

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #35:
    MODEM = Modulator/Demodulator
    Norco, CA WX: 55.9oF, 72.0% humidity, 0 mph S wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Win32
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nightfox on Tue Jan 2 05:41:38 2018

    On 2018 Jan 01 22:32:46, you wrote to me:

    if i'm understanding this exchange between you and rob correctly, i
    think that if it were me and i wanted to maintain my listing from my
    bbs, i would log into Vert and delete my entry there... then i would
    update my entry on my BBS to make sure it is sent to Vert for further
    propagation...

    I tried that earlier today. I deleted my BBS entry on Vertrauen, and
    I even created a brand-new entry for my BBS on my local BBS. So far,
    it seems my entry hasn't shown up on Vertrauen yet.

    the default event (SBLMAINT) of maintenance of the list takes place at 0200 local time...

    the default event (SMB2SBL) of importing from the message base into your local list takes place at 0300 local time...

    the default event (SBL2SMB) of exporting your local list to the message base for transfer to other systems takes place at 0300 local time...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Let us celebrate with the adding of chocolate to milk.. - Homer
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Accession@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Tue Jan 2 08:22:16 2018
    Hello Nightfox,

    On Mon Jan 01 2018 22:32:46, Nightfox wrote to mark lewis:

    if i'm understanding this exchange between you and rob correctly,
    i think that if it were me and i wanted to maintain my listing
    from my bbs, i would log into Vert and delete my entry there...
    then i would update my entry on my BBS to make sure it is sent to
    Vert for further propagation...

    I tried that earlier today. I deleted my BBS entry on Vertrauen, and
    I even created a brand-new entry for my BBS on my local BBS. So far,
    it seems my entry hasn't shown up on Vertrauen yet.

    I can confirm whatever you did must have made it to Vertrauen, because your new

    BBS entry arrived here and was imported this morning. I only noticed because I was going over my logs from the past 12 hours to make sure the new setup is working properly, and saw that your BBS entry was imported.

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "-Y-| -+-+-#-A. -> -+-|-|-U-i -e-+-+-i-|-+ -C-#-#-+-e-#-A."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
    # Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (Wisconsin) (723:1/1)
    * Synchronet * thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Tue Jan 2 09:39:34 2018
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Mon Jan 01 2018 11:46 pm

    I tried that earlier today. I deleted my BBS entry on Vertrauen, and
    I even created a brand-new entry for my BBS on my local BBS. So far,
    it seems my entry hasn't shown up on Vertrauen yet.

    It is now:
    1/1 11:45:18p Msg #5329 from Nightfox@DIGDIST:
    1/1 11:45:18p Nightfox@DIGDIST creating new entry: Digital Distortion

    Good to know.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Accession on Tue Jan 2 09:41:21 2018
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: Accession to Nightfox on Tue Jan 02 2018 08:22 am

    I can confirm whatever you did must have made it to Vertrauen, because your new BBS entry arrived here and was imported this morning. I only noticed because I was going over my logs from the past 12 hours to make sure the new setup is working properly, and saw that your BBS entry was imported.

    Good to know. Thanks.

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Tue Jan 2 09:41:34 2018
    Re: Synchronet BBS Door
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Tue Jan 02 2018 05:41 am

    So far, it seems my entry hasn't shown up on Vertrauen yet.

    the default event (SBLMAINT) of maintenance of the list takes place at 0200 local time...

    the default event (SMB2SBL) of importing from the message base into your local list takes place at 0300 local time...

    the default event (SBL2SMB) of exporting your local list to the message base for transfer to other systems takes place at 0300 local time...

    Ah, makes sense..

    Nightfox

    ---
    * Synchronet * Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)