im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

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Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

You probably have already imported and added all the areas in another library.

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Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

You probably have already imported and added all the areas in another library.

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Heh i wish it was that, i finally figured it out, seems it may be a linux syncrhonet thing, when i tell it to import filegate.zxx it seems to be takeing the very last area and adding it, then it won't add anymore till i go to that area and add a directory to it and then save, then i can import again and it will add the next one .... so im adding file areas one at the time right now pulling my hair out lol

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Richard Williamson wrote to Bill McGarrity on 06-24-17 17:17 <=-

Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

You probably have already imported and added all the areas in another library.

Heh i wish it was that, i finally figured it out, seems it may be a
linux syncrhonet thing, when i tell it to import filegate.zxx it seems
to be takeing the very last area and adding it, then it won't add
anymore till i go to that area and add a directory to it and then save, then i can import again and it will add the next one .... so im adding file areas one at the time right now pulling my hair out lol

That's weird....

When you first created the library, did you name a parent directory? I know Rob is on vacation right now but I'd post a message to him letting him know what you're dealing with.

I tried it here on my Pi and you're right, it imports all the areas in the filegate.zxx but only 1 saved. Strange...


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Richard Williamson wrote to Bill McGarrity on 06-24-17 17:17 <=-

Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

You probably have already imported and added all the areas in another library.

Heh i wish it was that, i finally figured it out, seems it may be a linux syncrhonet thing, when i tell it to import filegate.zxx it seems to be takeing the very last area and adding it, then it won't add anymore till i go to that area and add a directory to it and then save, then i can import again and it will add the next one .... so im adding file areas one at the time right now pulling my hair out lol

That's weird....

When you first created the library, did you name a parent directory? I know Rob is on vacation right now but I'd post a message to him letting him know what you're dealing with.

yeah it has a parent directory

I tried it here on my Pi and you're right, it imports all the areas in the filegate.zxx but only 1 saved. Strange...

glad im not the only one

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Richard Williamson wrote to Bill McGarrity on 06-24-17 17:17 <=-

Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

You probably have already imported and added all the areas in another library.

Heh i wish it was that, i finally figured it out, seems it may be a linux syncrhonet thing, when i tell it to import filegate.zxx it seems to be takeing the very last area and adding it, then it won't add anymore till i go to that area and add a directory to it and then save, then i can import again and it will add the next one .... so im adding file areas one at the time right now pulling my hair out lol

That's weird....

When you first created the library, did you name a parent directory? I know Rob is on vacation right now but I'd post a message to him letting him know what you're dealing with.

yeah it has a parent directory

I tried it here on my Pi and you're right, it imports all the areas in the filegate.zxx but only 1 saved. Strange...

glad im not the only one

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to All on Sat Jun 24 2017 03:17 pm

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

What format is the .zxx file?

digital man

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to All on Sat Jun 24 2017 03:17 pm

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

What format is the .zxx file?

digital man

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http://www.filegate.net/filegate.zxx

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On 2017 Jun 27 22:58:36, you wrote to Richard Williamson:

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying
"### of areas imported (0 added)"

What format is the .zxx file?

the filebone zxx file is just a text file... it is in the old RAID TIC processor format... here's a link to the latest one... lines beginning with '%'
are comments... if the file doesn't have the entire format explained, we can find that information for you if needed...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/FDIST/FILEBONE/FILEGATE.ZXX

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Re: Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to Digital Man on Wed Jun 28 2017 03:35 am

Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to All on Sat Jun 24 2017 03:17 pm

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

What format is the .zxx file?

http://www.filegate.net/filegate.zxx

Got it, it's the same as FIELBONE.NA.

digital man

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Bill McGarrity to Richard Williamson on Sun Jun 25 2017 07:05 pm

Richard Williamson wrote to Bill McGarrity on 06-24-17 17:17 <=-

Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

You probably have already imported and added all the areas in another library.

Heh i wish it was that, i finally figured it out, seems it may be a linux syncrhonet thing, when i tell it to import filegate.zxx it seems to be takeing the very last area and adding it, then it won't add anymore till i go to that area and add a directory to it and then save, then i can import again and it will add the next one .... so im adding file areas one at the time right now pulling my hair out lol

That's weird....

When you first created the library, did you name a parent directory? I know Rob is on vacation right now but I'd post a message to him letting him know what you're dealing with.

I tried it here on my Pi and you're right, it imports all the areas in the filegate.zxx but only 1 saved. Strange...

It was a recent regression in the file area import feature. It's now fixed in CVS.

digital man

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to All on Sat Jun 24 2017 03:17 pm

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

Thanks for the bug report. This has now been fixed in CVS.

digital man

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Hello mark,

On Wed Jun 28 2017 09:54:06, mark lewis wrote to Digital Man:

What format is the .zxx file?

the filebone zxx file is just a text file... it is in the old RAID TIC
processor format... here's a link to the latest one... lines
beginning with '%' are comments... if the file doesn't have the entire format explained, we can find that information for you if needed...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/FDIST/FILEBONE/FILEGATE.ZXX

If filegate.zxx doesn't match the format of fidonet.na, this is why there is a problem trying to import. I don't think Synchronet has ever known what filegate.zxx is/was. Is that something Janis decided to do on her own dime?

I don't know of much software out there that knows what filegate.zxx is. I think when I originally ran into the same issues, I just changed the format to match fidonet.na (apparantly much more widely used) style and it imported just fine.

Regards,
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On 2017 Jun 28 10:52:26, you wrote to me:

What format is the .zxx file?

the filebone zxx file is just a text file... it is in the old RAID
TIC processor format... here's a link to the latest one... lines
beginning with '%' are comments... if the file doesn't have the
entire format explained, we can find that information for you if
needed...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/FDIST/FILEBONE/FILEGATE.ZXX

If filegate.zxx doesn't match the format of fidonet.na,

it does not... never has... it has always been in RAID format...

this is why there is a problem trying to import.

i would imagine so but it is possible that it might recognise it... it needed to be clarified, though...

I don't think Synchronet has ever known what filegate.zxx is/was. Is
that something Janis decided to do on her own dime?

janis is the founder of the Filegate FDN network... most traditional FTN file processing software recognises the RAID format... at least for importing as it carries flags indicating what settings apply to an area... most all are inbound
only... hatching is done by sending the file(s) to the admin for that FDN and they hatch them into the area they belong in... these settings are indicated in
the 2nd or 3rd column in the format...

I don't know of much software out there that knows what filegate.zxx
is.

it is .zxx as a trick... instead of being numbered like the nodelist, she just uses .zxx... all of my file processing software works directly with it and is updated automatically any time a new one is sent out adding or removing an area
or updating an existing entry...

I think when I originally ran into the same issues, I just changed the format to match fidonet.na (apparantly much more widely used) style
and it imported just fine.

depending on what one is looking for, sure... filegate.zxx is for file processing software, really... it would be good if it could also be used to adjust BBS file areas as well... the format isn't that hard and at that point, adding the capability to ticit to use this file as the master list for file areas pulled from system x:y/z, for example, would possibly be a GoodThing<tm>... then it would know whether to forward requests from their downlinks for areas or not ;)

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Accession to mark lewis on Wed Jun 28 2017 10:52 am

On Wed Jun 28 2017 09:54:06, mark lewis wrote to Digital Man:

What format is the .zxx file?

the filebone zxx file is just a text file... it is in the old RAID TIC
processor format... here's a link to the latest one... lines
beginning with '%' are comments... if the file doesn't have the entire format explained, we can find that information for you if needed...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/FDIST/FILEBONE/FILEGATE.ZXX

If filegate.zxx doesn't match the format of fidonet.na, this is why there is a problem trying to import. I don't think Synchronet has ever known what filegate.zxx is/was. Is that something Janis decided to do on her own dime?

I don't know of much software out there that knows what filegate.zxx is. I think when I originally ran into the same issues, I just changed the format to match fidonet.na (apparantly much more widely used) style and it imported just fine.

The format of filegate.zxx appears to be the same as filebone.na (which is derived from the RAID configuration file format).

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: mark lewis to Accession on Wed Jun 28 2017 02:33 pm

it is .zxx as a trick... instead of being numbered like the nodelist, she just uses .zxx... all of my file processing software works directly with it and is updated automatically any time a new one is sent out adding or removing an area
or updating an existing entry...

Only thing weird is that files with a .z?? extension usually indicates a zipped file (in PKZIP format), but not in this case. When I first saw the reference to filegate.zxx, I assumed it was actually a zip file.

digital man

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On 2017 Jun 28 12:40:34, you wrote to Accession:

The format of filegate.zxx appears to be the same as filebone.na
(which is derived from the RAID configuration file format).

cool! i had thought, because of the .na extension, that it might be in, ummm...
.na style like the echos... glad to hear that it isn't/wasn't :)

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On 2017 Jun 28 12:44:18, you wrote to me:

it is .zxx as a trick... instead of being numbered like the nodelist,
she just uses .zxx... all of my file processing software works
directly with it and is updated automatically any time a new one is
sent out adding or removing an area or updating an existing entry...

Only thing weird is that files with a .z?? extension usually indicates
a zipped file (in PKZIP format), but not in this case. When I first
saw the reference to filegate.zxx, I assumed it was actually a zip
file.

understandable... i forget the exact reason why it was chosen but it has been like that for a very long time... janis would know, though ;)

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Hello Digital,

On Wed Jun 28 2017 12:40:34, Digital Man wrote to Accession:

I don't know of much software out there that knows what
filegate.zxx is. I think when I originally ran into the same
issues, I just changed the format to match fidonet.na (apparantly
much more widely used) style and it imported just fine.

The format of filegate.zxx appears to be the same as filebone.na
(which is derived from the RAID configuration file format).

Ah, okay. I had thought it was a little bit different (ie: a couple extra punctuations that some importing tools didn't recognize).

That said, thanks for the fix! ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to All on Sat Jun 24 2017 03:17 pm

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

Thanks for the bug report. This has now been fixed in CVS.

digital man

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TY Rob/Digital man, i updated my sbbs from cvs ... saw the name change in scfg and it imported everything, so just need to make sure my tinytic.cfg mataches and im all set

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Rob,

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying " of areas imported (0 added)"

What format is the .zxx file?

It's a regular ASCII textfile...basically the IFDC FileGate Project
File Echo List. It used to be called FILEBONE.N* (such as FILEBONE.NA
for the North American file areas).

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Re: filegate.zxx
By: Bill McGarrity to Richard Williamson on Sun Jun 25 2017 07:05 pm

Richard Williamson wrote to Bill McGarrity on 06-24-17 17:17 <=-

Richard Williamson wrote to All on 06-24-17 15:17 <=-

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

I tried it here on my Pi and you're right, it imports all the areas in the filegate.zxx but only 1 saved. Strange...

It was a recent regression in the file area import feature. It's now
fixed in CVS.

Thank you sir!!


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Re: Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to Digital Man on Thu Jun 29 2017 12:47 am

Re: filegate.zxx
By: Richard Williamson to All on Sat Jun 24 2017 03:17 pm

im trying to import the fileareas via filegate.zxx and scfg just saying "### of areas imported (0 added)"

Thanks for the bug report. This has now been fixed in CVS.

TY Rob/Digital man, i updated my sbbs from cvs ... saw the name change in scfg and it imported everything, so just need to make sure my tinytic.cfg mataches and im all set

Okay, good to hear.

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