I'm running Synchronet 3.17a on Windows Server 2003 (32-bit) on an Amazon EC2 instance. I'm running 3.17 because I want to be able to use electronicchicken's v4 web interface.

When I launch everything via the Synchronet control panel without the NT services installed, everything functions fine.

If I install the NT services and then attempt to start them, they all start fine except for the web server. It gives a 1067 (service unexpectedly terminated) and then the rest of the services stop as well.

Here's some of the entries from the system events. The last one is the interesting one.

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..11:04:33 AM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Synchronet Web Server Revision 1.644

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..11:04:33 AM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Compiled Jun 11 2017 05:20:24 with MSC 1800

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..11:04:33 AM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Initializing on Wed Jun 14 11:04:33 2017 with options: 800

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..11:04:33 AM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Loading configuration files from C:\sbbs\ctrl\

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..11:04:33 AM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Adding Web Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 80

Event Type:.Error
Event Source:.Application Error
Event Category:.(100)
Event ID:.1000
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..11:04:34 AM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Faulting application sbbsNTsvcs.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

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Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to All on Wed Jun 14 2017 11:32 am

I'm running Synchronet 3.17a on Windows Server 2003 (32-bit) on an Amazon EC2 instance. I'm running 3.17 because I want to be able to use electronicchicken's v4 web interface.

When I launch everything via the Synchronet control panel without the NT services installed, everything functions fine.

If I install the NT services and then attempt to start them, they all start fine except for the web server. It gives a 1067 (service unexpectedly terminated) and then the rest of the services stop as well.

Here's some of the entries from the system events. The last one is the interesting one.

Adding Web Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 80

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date: 6/14/2017
Time: 11:04:34 AM
User: N/A
Computer: AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Faulting application sbbsNTsvcs.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

Looks like the web server crashes right after trying to listen on port 80. If you increase the LogLevel in your sbbs.ini file, do you get more log events before the crash (fault)?

We'll need to narrow this down a little further to find the cause (and fix it).

digital man

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Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to All on Wed Jun 14 2017 11:32 am

I'm running Synchronet 3.17a on Windows Server 2003 (32-bit) on an Amazon EC2 instance. I'm running 3.17 because I want to be able to use electronicchicken's v4 web interface.

When I launch everything via the Synchronet control panel without the NT services installed, everything functions fine.

If I install the NT services and then attempt to start them, they all start fine except for the web server. It gives a 1067 (service unexpectedly terminated) and then the rest of the services stop as well.

Here's some of the entries from the system events. The last one is the interesting one.

Adding Web Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 80

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date: 6/14/2017
Time: 11:04:34 AM
User: N/A
Computer: AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Faulting application sbbsNTsvcs.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

Looks like the web server crashes right after trying to listen on port 80. If you increase the LogLevel in your sbbs.ini file, do you get more log events before the crash (fault)?

We'll need to narrow this down a little further to find the cause (and fix it).

Raise the logging level up to "debugging" and no new events recorded or displayed in the
log, at least not in the place we're looking for (the only added events all reported no
problems.)

I tried changing up which port it is listening on, and that didn't help either.

It's not a huge issue since it runs fine if I launch the control panel and don't use the NT
services. I've got a WinXP VM I was using for staging before I moved it to EC2, I'll see if the
service gives the same issues there.
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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Wed Jun 14 2017 01:41 pm

Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to All on Wed Jun 14 2017 11:32 am

I'm running Synchronet 3.17a on Windows Server 2003 (32-bit) on an Amazon EC2 instance. I'm running 3.17 because I want to be able to use electronicchicken's v4 web interface.

When I launch everything via the Synchronet control panel without the NT services installed, everything functions fine.

If I install the NT services and then attempt to start them, they all start fine except for the web server. It gives a 1067 (service unexpectedly terminated) and then the rest of the services stop as well.

Here's some of the entries from the system events. The last one is the interesting one.

Adding Web Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 80

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: (100)
Event ID: 1000
Date: 6/14/2017
Time: 11:04:34 AM
User: N/A
Computer: AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Faulting application sbbsNTsvcs.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

Looks like the web server crashes right after trying to listen on port 80. If you increase the LogLevel in your sbbs.ini file, do you get more log events before the crash (fault)?

We'll need to narrow this down a little further to find the cause (and fix it).

Raise the logging level up to "debugging" and no new events recorded or displayed in the
log, at least not in the place we're looking for (the only added events all reported no
problems.)

Right, but what I wanted to know was: what is the last web server log message before the crash?

I tried changing up which port it is listening on, and that didn't help either.

Okay, good to know.

digital man

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Wed Jun 14 2017 01:41 pm

Right, but what I wanted to know was: what is the last web server log message before the crash?

Okay, good to know.

digital man

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Here's what I've got with logging turned to debugging: (only posting the last three entries, I can do all of them if you want, but it's a lot and none of them reported any errors or warnings.)

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..3:33:10 PM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Web Server socket set created

Event Type:.Information
Event Source:.SynchronetWeb
Event Category:.None
Event ID:.0
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..3:33:10 PM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Adding Web Server listening socket on 0.0.0.0 port 80

Event Type:.Error
Event Source:.Application Error
Event Category:.(100)
Event ID:.1000
Date:..6/14/2017
Time:..3:33:11 PM
User:..N/A
Computer:.AMAZON-0E24E5F0
Description:
Faulting application sbbsNTsvcs.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 73 62 62 ure sbb
0018: 73 4e 54 73 76 63 73 2e sNTsvcs.
0020: 65 78 65 20 30 2e 30 2e exe 0.0.
0028: 30 2e 30 20 69 6e 20 75 0.0 in u
0030: 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 30 nknown 0
0038: 2e 30 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 .0.0.0 a
0040: 74 20 6f 66 66 73 65 74 t offset
0048: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0050: 30 0

Additionally - I was able to replicate the crash in my 32-bit Windows XP VM running under Oracle Virtual Box. It follows the same chain of events, but generates a windows dialog of "sbbsNTsvcs has encountered a problem..." and has one additional entry in the system events log from DrWatson.

The application, C:\sbbs\exec\sbbsNTsvcs.exe, generated an application error The error occurred on 06/15/2017 @ 09:17:27.145 The exception generated was c0000005 at address 00000000 (<nosymbols>)

I tried installing just the webserver service and running it (in case the other services were causing the issue) and it still crashes.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Thu Jun 15 2017 09:27 am

Faulting application sbbsNTsvcs.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00000000.

Okay, I was able to reproduce and fix the issue. It's been broken for quite a while (Aug-2015), but no one has reported it before now. <shrug>

Anyway, get tomorrow morning's development binaries and the websrvr.dll will include the fix.

digital man

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I guess that shows how many people run it on win32 as opposed to linux. :)

Out of curiosity, what was the bug? My coding is a bit rusty, but it looks like a null-pointer exception.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Thu Jun 15 2017 16:09:03

I guess that shows how many people run it on win32 as opposed to linux. :)

When i did run on win32 I always used sbbsctrl console, just for the amount of control it gave, but I did notice lastnight while looking at the sbbslist that a larger portion of the bbs systems now run on linux compared to back just a few years ago. it really kind of suprised me, but Synchronet has grown leaps and bounds since then, especially when it comes to being platform compatible.

it really has become a very powerful communcations tool (especially) by todays standards. imho.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Thu Jun 15 2017 04:09 pm

I guess that shows how many people run it on win32 as opposed to linux. :)

Out of curiosity, what was the bug? My coding is a bit rusty, but it looks like a null-pointer exception.

A null-pointer (a function pointer, in this case) dereference.

digital man

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I think a lot of people are more familiar with Linux for administering servers (and it being free can't hurt), and with things like BBSLink out there, being able to run old DOS stuff easily isn't nearly as important.

I originally wanted to run my BBS off of my Raspberry Pi for fun, but kept hitting little snags in setting it up. I set it up in a Windows XP VM just to get it working, and when I looked at Amazon's free EC2 instances, they offered Windows Server 2003, so I just copied the \sbbs directory over, and voila.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 15 2017 23:17:34

I originally wanted to run my BBS off of my Raspberry Pi for fun, but kept hitting little snags in setting it up. I set it up in a Windows XP VM just to get it working, and when I looked at Amazon's free EC2 instances, they offered Windows Server 2003, so I just copied the \sbbs directory over, and voila. [0m

Free you say? haha.. I will have a look at that.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Thu Jun 15 2017 23:17:34

Free you say? haha.. I will have a look at that.

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For one year at least. I'll worry about the ramifications after that.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Fri Jun 16 2017 16:58:47

Free you say? haha.. I will have a look at that.

For one year at least. I'll worry about the ramifications after that.

I wonder about the usage limits though, I would be afraid that I would go over, 750 hours monthly. I would wonder how exactly that is measured, I've seen my bbs active in one form or another for a couple days straight.

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It's 750/month, which is enough for 31.25 days nonstop.

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Re: Re: Error running Webserver as NT Service
By: Deepthaw to KK4QBN on Sat Jun 17 2017 11:28:38

It's 750/month, which is enough for 31.25 days nonstop.

Yeah, I realized that after the fact.. should have done my math.. dunno why they would even state how many hours are given if given enough to cover the whole month, I guess incase they decide to lower it. :-)

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