• sbbsecho and binkd

    From Hemo@1:103/705 to All on Sun Feb 12 18:21:42 2017
    FIDOnet - I seem to be able to send netmail, receive netmail, receive mail packets for message areas.

    I tried sending a test message out in the FIDO test conference, but it sits in my outbound folder and will not send...

    Trying to review sbbsecho settings is tough, since I only seem to find old guides and how-to's that are using the older sbbsecho config or sbbsecho.ctl formats, not the newer program or sbbsecho.ini formats.

    Anyone got ideas where I should look? Seems like only thing not working is new messages in the conferences aren't going out.

    tia,,
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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to Hemo on Sun Feb 12 20:12:38 2017
    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Hemo to All on Sun Feb 12 2017 18:21:43

    I tried sending a test message out in the FIDO test conference, but it sits in my outbound folder and will not send...

    Trying to review sbbsecho settings is tough, since I only seem to find old guides and how-to's that are using the older sbbsecho config or sbbsecho.ctl formats, not the newer program or sbbsecho.ini formats.

    Anyone got ideas where I should look? Seems like only thing not working is new messages in the conferences aren't going out.

    Did you mark the echos as Fidonet, and put your nodenumber in the config, along with AKA?
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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Hemo on Sun Feb 12 21:41:00 2017
    Hemo wrote to All <=-

    FIDOnet - I seem to be able to send netmail, receive netmail, receive
    mail packets for message areas.

    I tried sending a test message out in the FIDO test conference, but it sits in my outbound folder and will not send...

    Trying to review sbbsecho settings is tough, since I only seem to find
    old guides and how-to's that are using the older sbbsecho config or sbbsecho.ctl formats, not the newer program or sbbsecho.ini formats.

    A few things. what are the switches you're using with sbbsecho. Binkd is a BSO mailer and you must use the 'f' switch. Make sure in echocfg you've chosen Binkley as the mailer. File Attach no longer works in v3.0

    In your binkd.cfg, what outbound folder are you using to send? If your only using one domain, make sure your entry for outbound looks like this.

    domain fidonet C:\\FD\\OUTBOUND 1 (Change your path and if you're in zone 1. If you in another zone, just replace the 1 with whatever zone #.)

    If you're in multiple FTN's always use the same outbound folder and keep the zone # the same on each line. binkd will create the proper folders it needs to send to different zones.



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  • From John Hiemenz@1:154/40 to Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 on Sun Feb 12 20:34:16 2017
    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Joe Delahaye to Hemo on Sun Feb 12 2017 08:12 pm

    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Hemo to All on Sun Feb 12 2017 18:21:43

    I tried sending a test message out in the FIDO test conference, but
    it sits in my outbound folder and will not send...

    Trying to review sbbsecho settings is tough, since I only seem to
    find old guides and how-to's that are using the older sbbsecho
    config or sbbsecho.ctl formats, not the newer program or
    sbbsecho.ini formats.
    Anyone got ideas where I should look? Seems like only thing not
    working is new messages in the conferences aren't going out.

    Did you mark the echos as Fidonet, and put your nodenumber in the config, along with AKA?

    under SCFG->Message Areas->FIDO-net, under each of the message sub boards, under Network Options, yes - configured as FidoNet EchoMail, and my node (1:154/40) is in the FidoNet Address field.

    Not sure what you mean with AKA .. ?

    sbbsecho does seem to create the outgoing packet, and places this in the same folder outgoing netmail goes, but while netmail is sending, the echomail (message group postings) do not go, they just sit there in the binkd outgoing folder as a .pkt file.

    maybe it's not sbbsecho, and it's something with binkd.. I don't know, seems I've reviewed both too many times to be sure of anything any longer.

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  • From John Hiemenz@1:154/40 to Bill McGarrity on Sun Feb 12 20:56:38 2017
    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Bill McGarrity to Hemo on Sun Feb 12 2017 09:41 pm

    Hemo wrote to All <=-

    FIDOnet - I seem to be able to send netmail, receive netmail,
    receive mail packets for message areas.

    I tried sending a test message out in the FIDO test conference, but
    it sits in my outbound folder and will not send...

    A few things. what are the switches you're using with sbbsecho. Binkd is a BSO mailer and you must use the 'f' switch. Make sure in echocfg you've chosen Binkley as the mailer. File Attach no longer works in v3.0

    In your binkd.cfg, what outbound folder are you using to send? If your only using one domain, make sure your entry for outbound looks like this.


    If you get this, I have it working. I had "../ftn/outbound/ as the outbound folder in sbbsecho.cfg, and happened to catch in binkd log that it was trying to send the file but couldn't find it. I changed that to a full pathname "/sbbs/ftn/outbound" and saw a test message go out, so am hoping this one goes as well..

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    thanks,

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to John Hiemenz on Sun Feb 12 22:13:00 2017
    John Hiemenz wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Bill McGarrity to Hemo on Sun Feb 12 2017 09:41 pm

    Hemo wrote to All <=-


    A few things. what are the switches you're using with sbbsecho. Binkd is a BSO mailer and you must use the 'f' switch. Make sure in echocfg you've chosen Binkley as the mailer. File Attach no longer works in v3.0

    In your binkd.cfg, what outbound folder are you using to send? If your only using one domain, make sure your entry for outbound looks like this.


    If you get this, I have it working. I had "../ftn/outbound/ as the outbound folder in sbbsecho.cfg, and happened to catch in binkd log
    that it was trying to send the file but couldn't find it. I changed
    that to a full pathname "/sbbs/ftn/outbound" and saw a test message go out, so am hoping this one goes as well..

    I got this thus everything you're done is working. I've dound with sbbsecho it's better if you use complete paths in the setup. Less confusion.


    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    Don't bother. It was tossed properly so you indeed have teh -f switch there. As I said, make sure in binkd.cfg where you specify the putbound folder, make sure you add a '1' as that is your home zone. You may also want to add, although it is not needed, an origin line. Right now yours is blank.

    === SBBSecho 3.00-Linux
    # Origin: (1:154/40)

    To change it, go to ./scfg > Networks > Fido > Default Origin Line

    Enjoy and good luck!!


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  • From John Hiemenz@1:154/40 to Bill McGarrity on Sun Feb 12 21:34:30 2017
    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Bill McGarrity to John Hiemenz on Sun Feb 12 2017 10:13 pm

    John Hiemenz wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    If you get this, I have it working. I had "../ftn/outbound/ as the
    outbound folder in sbbsecho.cfg, and happened to catch in binkd log
    that it was trying to send the file but couldn't find it. I changed
    that to a full pathname "/sbbs/ftn/outbound" and saw a test message
    go out, so am hoping this one goes as well..

    I got this thus everything you're done is working. I've dound with sbbsecho it's better if you use complete paths in the setup. Less confusion.

    Excellent. I'll likely start using full pathnames for everything moving forward, it just makes more sense.

    I've updated the origin line as well, thanks for that, I had recalled seeing that and specifically did not set it for some reason I can no longer recall.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to John Hiemenz on Mon Feb 13 00:36:00 2017
    John Hiemenz wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Bill McGarrity to John Hiemenz on Sun Feb 12 2017 10:13 pm

    John Hiemenz wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    If you get this, I have it working. I had "../ftn/outbound/ as the
    outbound folder in sbbsecho.cfg, and happened to catch in binkd log
    that it was trying to send the file but couldn't find it. I changed
    that to a full pathname "/sbbs/ftn/outbound" and saw a test message
    go out, so am hoping this one goes as well..

    I got this thus everything you're done is working. I've dound with sbbsecho it's better if you use complete paths in the setup. Less confusion.

    Excellent. I'll likely start using full pathnames for everything
    moving forward, it just makes more sense.

    I've updated the origin line as well, thanks for that, I had recalled seeing that and specifically did not set it for some reason I can no longer recall.

    Good deal.... love the name by the way.. lol!!


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  • From Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 to John Hiemenz on Mon Feb 13 11:47:58 2017
    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: John Hiemenz to Joe Delahaye@1:249/303 on Sun Feb 12 2017 20:34:17

    Did you mark the echos as Fidonet, and put your nodenumber in the
    config, along with AKA?

    under SCFG->Message Areas->FIDO-net, under each of the message sub boards, under Network Options, yes - configured as FidoNet EchoMail, and my node (1:154/40) is in the FidoNet Address field.

    Not sure what you mean with AKA .. ?

    If you have other node numbers, either as a hub, or from other networks, those are considered AKAs. Also Known As <G>


    sbbsecho does seem to create the outgoing packet, and places this in the same folder outgoing netmail goes, but while netmail is sending, the echomail (message group postings) do not go, they just sit there in the binkd outgoing folder as a .pkt file.

    maybe it's not sbbsecho, and it's something with binkd.. I don't know, seems I've reviewed both too many times to be sure of anything any longer.


    Check your Binkd logs to see if it is even trying to connect, and if so, why it is failing.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Hemo on Mon Feb 13 13:59:56 2017
    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Hemo to All on Sun Feb 12 2017 06:21 pm

    FIDOnet - I seem to be able to send netmail, receive netmail, receive mail packets for message areas.

    I tried sending a test message out in the FIDO test conference, but it sits in my outbound folder and will not send...

    Trying to review sbbsecho settings is tough, since I only seem to find old guides and how-to's that are using the older sbbsecho config or sbbsecho.ctl formats, not the newer program or sbbsecho.ini formats.

    Anyone got ideas where I should look? Seems like only thing not working is new messages in the conferences aren't going out.

    Examine your sbbsecho.log file for clues.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to John Hiemenz on Mon Feb 13 14:01:10 2017
    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: John Hiemenz to Bill McGarrity on Sun Feb 12 2017 08:56 pm

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Digital Man on Mon Feb 13 18:18:00 2017
    Digital Man wrote to John Hiemenz <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: John Hiemenz to Bill McGarrity on Sun Feb 12 2017 08:56 pm

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    OK.... good to know..... <ripping out the f key> ;)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Mon Feb 13 18:54:20 2017
    On 2017 Feb 13 14:01:10, you wrote to John Hiemenz:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 14 01:31:00 2017
    mark lewis wrote to Digital Man <=-


    On 2017 Feb 13 14:01:10, you wrote to John Hiemenz:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

    I remember Rob saying that quite sometime ago but I didn't realize the -f switch was no longer needed, which makes sense.. :)


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Tue Feb 14 14:28:06 2017
    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Feb 13 2017 06:54 pm

    On 2017 Feb 13 14:01:10, you wrote to John Hiemenz:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

    No, it's just the default behavior now (in SBBSecho v3). To disable it, use -q.

    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Digital Man on Tue Feb 14 19:15:00 2017
    Digital Man wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Feb 13 2017 06:54 pm

    On 2017 Feb 13 14:01:10, you wrote to John Hiemenz:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

    No, it's just the default behavior now (in SBBSecho v3). To disable it, use -q.

    OK.. just so I get this right... you're saying using the -q will allow file attach?


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Wed Feb 15 13:44:00 2017

    On 2017 Feb 14 14:28:06, you wrote to me:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are
    no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

    No, it's just the default behavior now (in SBBSecho v3). To disable
    it, use -q.

    ahhhh... so use -q for file attach mailers... ok :)

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Bill McGarrity on Thu Feb 16 18:27:46 2017
    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Tue Feb 14 2017 07:15 pm

    Digital Man wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Feb 13 2017 06:54 pm

    On 2017 Feb 13 14:01:10, you wrote to John Hiemenz:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

    No, it's just the default behavior now (in SBBSecho v3). To disable it, use -q.

    OK.. just so I get this right... you're saying using the -q will allow file attach?

    No. Run "sbbsecho -?" and it will explain the behavior of the program and how the available command-line options will modify the behavior:

    sbbsecho, by default, will:

    * Packetize outbound netmail as req'd for BSO/FLO operation (-q to disable)


    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@1:266/404 to Digital Man on Thu Feb 16 23:27:00 2017
    Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Tue Feb 14 2017 07:15 pm

    Digital Man wrote to mark lewis <=-

    Re: sbbsecho and binkd
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Feb 13 2017 06:54 pm

    On 2017 Feb 13 14:01:10, you wrote to John Hiemenz:

    I will double check the 'f' switch with binkd - correct? (not
    sbbsecho, help screen there doesn't mention -f option)

    SBBSecho v3 doesn't use the -f option (it's ignored).

    this is because dynamic mailers that operate in file attach mode are no longer supported? only BSO mailers??

    No, it's just the default behavior now (in SBBSecho v3). To disable it, use -q.

    OK.. just so I get this right... you're saying using the -q will allow file attach?

    No. Run "sbbsecho -?" and it will explain the behavior of the program
    and how the available command-line options will modify the behavior:

    OK... thank you.


    sbbsecho, by default, will:

    * Packetize outbound netmail as req'd for BSO/FLO operation (-q to disable)


    digital man

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