Hi All,

I was a Sysop 'back in the day', running IM and Proboard, and now running Synchronet. First, this is a test, to make sure my messages are getting out. Secondly, I was wondering where I can find binkit.js? I've been looking on the internet, but can't find where to get it. Am I missing something?

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Black Panther
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Re: Test with a question
By: Black Panther to All on Wed Nov 09 2016 09:39 pm

I was a Sysop 'back in the day', running IM and Proboard, and now running Synchronet. First, this is a test, to make sure my messages are getting out. Secondly, I was wondering where I can find binkit.js? I've been looking on the internet, but can't find where to get it. Am I missing something?

Binkit is at cvs.synchro.net under the exec folder as it has not been released yet it is still a developement version. Good luck, I could never get it to work correctly and am still using Irex2 myself.

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Re: Test with a question
By: Dribble to Black Panther on Wed Nov 09 2016 20:49:40

I was a Sysop 'back in the day', running IM and Proboard, and now runni Synchronet. First, this is a test, to make sure my messages are getting out. Secondly, I was wondering where I can find binkit.js? I've been looking on the internet, but can't find where to get it. Am I missing something?

Binkit is at cvs.synchro.net under the exec folder as it has not been releas yet it is still a developement version. Good luck, I could never get it to work correctly and am still using Irex2 myself.

Thank you. I have been having some slight issues getting IRex to play nice with Synchronet. I'll keep playing around with the settings and see if I can tweek it.

Thanks again.

Black Panther
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Hello Black!

10 Nov 16 00:52, you wrote to Dribble:

Thank you. I have been having some slight issues getting IRex to play
nice with Synchronet. I'll keep playing around with the settings and
see if I can tweek it.

Once you get IRex working and all, I'd like to bend your ear for a moment. I've
got IRex but an currently running Taurus and it's got it's issues.

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Re: Test with a question
By: Steven Sheeley to Black Panther on Thu Nov 10 2016 08:43:03

Thank you. I have been having some slight issues getting IRex to play nice with Synchronet. I'll keep playing around with the settings and see if I can tweek it.

Once you get IRex working and all, I'd like to bend your ear for a moment. I

Steven,

I've got IRex running now. I'm only using the SMTP/POP3 and BinkP options at the moment. I'll be working on get the FTP set up when I have a need for it.

What kind of questions did you have about IRex?

Black Panther
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Hello Black!

14 Nov 16 16:42, you wrote to me:

Steven,

I've got IRex running now. I'm only using the SMTP/POP3 and BinkP
options at the moment. I'll be working on get the FTP set up when I
have a need for it.

What kind of questions did you have about IRex?

I'm currently running Taurus with Synchronet and, when I configured IRex, I got
it running but only for outbound BinkP connections to my hubs, I couldn't get it to connect to my hubs when they 'called'.

Taurus is ok, but it's not been activatly maintained since 2009 and it has 'issues'. It works, but it takes hand holding to keep it running and I have major issues when doing BinkP outbound to Mystic systems.

Did you have to tweak anythin on IRex or was it straight forward?


Steven


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Steven Sheeley wrote to Black Panther <=-

I'm currently running Taurus with Synchronet and, when I configured
IRex, I got it running but only for outbound BinkP connections to my
hubs, I couldn't get it to connect to my hubs when they 'called'.

Taurus is ok, but it's not been activatly maintained since 2009 and it
has 'issues'. It works, but it takes hand holding to keep it running
and I have major issues when doing BinkP outbound to Mystic systems.

Did you have to tweak anythin on IRex or was it straight forward?

Right now you have an issue with Taurus and a bad address in the cfg. My system can't connect with you.


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Re: Test with a question
By: Steven Sheeley to Black Panther on Tue Nov 15 2016 06:44:35

I'm currently running Taurus with Synchronet and, when I configured IRex, I

Taurus is ok, but it's not been activatly maintained since 2009 and it has '

Did you have to tweak anythin on IRex or was it straight forward?

Most of it is pretty straight forward. I just followed the documentation step by step, and made sure the paths all matched what was set up in SBBSECHO and SBBSCFG.

Right now, I don't have any nodes polling me, so I'm not 100% sure of that end working, but I do have it running in daemon mode.

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Steven Sheeley wrote to Black Panther <=-

I'm currently running Taurus with Synchronet and, when I configured
IRex, I got it running but only for outbound BinkP connections to my
hubs, I couldn't get it to connect to my hubs when they 'called'.

Taurus is ok, but it's not been activatly maintained since 2009 and it
has 'issues'. It works, but it takes hand holding to keep it running
and I have major issues when doing BinkP outbound to Mystic systems.

Did you have to tweak anythin on IRex or was it straight forward?

Why not use binkd? It's actively maintained, and I've found it to be a rock solid mailer. That's what I use on my Synchronet board.


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16 Nov 16 07:51, you wrote to Steven Sheeley:

Did you have to tweak anythin on IRex or was it straight forward?

Why not use binkd? It's actively maintained, and I've found it to be
a rock solid mailer. That's what I use on my Synchronet board.

binkd only provides for one FTN protocol and has limited capabilities when compared to other FTN mailers...

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mark lewis wrote to Vk3jed <=-

binkd only provides for one FTN protocol and has limited capabilities
when compared to other FTN mailers...

Fair enough, though the question was about using binkp.


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16 Nov 16 18:00, you wrote to me:

binkd only provides for one FTN protocol and has limited capabilities
when compared to other FTN mailers...

Fair enough, though the question was about using binkp.

i understood it as choosing between Taurus and IREX and what had to be done to IREX to get it working with synchronet...

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mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Fair enough, though the question was about using binkp.

i understood it as choosing between Taurus and IREX and what had to be done to IREX to get it working with synchronet...

That was the narrower question asked, but there was a broader one as well.


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Hello Bill!

15 Nov 16 10:23, you wrote to me:

Right now you have an issue with Taurus and a bad address in the cfg.
My system can't connect with you.

Bad address? The only issues that I am aware of is when I poll certain Mystic systems. I'ev gott wo hubs that run Mystic that I can not connect to when I poll, but they can connect to me just fine. I have one Mystic hub that works perfectly in both directions.

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Hello Vk3jed!

16 Nov 16 07:51, you wrote to me:

Steven Sheeley wrote to Black Panther <=-

Why not use binkd? It's actively maintained, and I've found it to be
a rock solid mailer. That's what I use on my Synchronet board.

I've toyed with the idea of using BinkD but haven't had a chance to look into it yet. I have a 25 node license for IRex and I'd like to use that, but, overall, what I want is something that works.

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Hello Steven,

On 15 Nov 16 21:06, Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity:

Bad address? The only issues that I am aware of is when I poll
certain Mystic systems. I'ev gott wo hubs that run Mystic that I can
not connect to when I poll, but they can connect to me just fine. I
have one Mystic hub that works perfectly in both directions.

When you posted your logs, you displayed one address that didn't have a node number. It was like 80:301 .. and that was it. His system is seeing that bad address and not allowing the connection. Check your mailer configuration and remove that bad address, and things should work fine with Bill.

As for the Mystic systems, most likely the Mystic operator has their end setup wrong. Especially if you are able to connect to one both ways, and the other two only one way.

Regards,
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Hello Steven,

On 15 Nov 16 21:21, Steven Sheeley wrote to Vk3jed:

Why not use binkd? It's actively maintained, and I've found it
to be a rock solid mailer. That's what I use on my Synchronet
board.

I've toyed with the idea of using BinkD but haven't had a chance to
look into it yet. I have a 25 node license for IRex and I'd like to
use that, but, overall, what I want is something that works.

FYI, Irex and Argus are probably two of the worst mailers still in use today. They were great in their heyday, but most of the newer softwares out these days

have to add a bunch of code to work around a bunch of those two mailer's faults. Irex moreso, since it's not supported anymore. At least the source for the other one (or one of it's sisters, Radius or Taurus) is out there. But still hasn't really been fixed at all.

Regards,
Nick

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Steven Sheeley wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I've toyed with the idea of using BinkD but haven't had a chance to
look into it yet. I have a 25 node license for IRex and I'd like to
use that, but, overall, what I want is something that works.

That's the main thing, something that works. :)


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Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Bad address? The only issues that I am aware of is when I poll certain Mystic systems. I'ev gott wo hubs that run Mystic that I can not
connect to when I poll, but they can connect to me just fine. I have
one Mystic hub that works perfectly in both directions.

That would be me. :) A bit of troubleshooting resolved the issue. :) Turning on the "Hide AKAs" option on the Mystic end seemed to do the trick. :)


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Accession wrote to Steven Sheeley <=-

As for the Mystic systems, most likely the Mystic operator has their
end setup wrong. Especially if you are able to connect to one both
ways, and the other two only one way.

Using the "Hide AKAs" option was what seemed to get things working both ways with Steven's Taurus mailer. Might be an idea for other Mystic sysops to try with a node running Taurus.

I hadn't seen this issue with my own Synchronet system, because that runs BinkD, which has no issues communicating with Mystic.


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Hiya Steven..

Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

15 Nov 16 10:23, you wrote to me:

Right now you have an issue with Taurus and a bad address in the cfg.
My system can't connect with you.

Bad address? The only issues that I am aware of is when I poll certain Mystic systems. I'ev gott wo hubs that run Mystic that I can not
connect to when I poll, but they can connect to me just fine. I have
one Mystic hub that works perfectly in both directions.

This is the log from my bind..

08:05 [9500] outgoing session with infinity.synchro.net:24554 [75.109.30.219] 08:05 [9500] OPT LST UTF
08:05 [9500] OPT CRAM-MD5-55135765b255a7fc08e54a1b11e18545
08:05 [9500] Remote requests MD mode
08:05 [9500] SYS Split Infinity BBS, TCP/IP 1
08:05 [9500] ZYZ Steven Sheeley
08:05 [9500] LOC Rupert, WV
08:05 [9500] PHN infinity.synchro.net
08:05 [9500] NDL MO,CM,TCP,BND
08:05 [9500] TIME Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:08:24 -0500
08:05 [9500] VER Taurus/5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)/Win32 binkp/1.1
08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address: `1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30 0,169:1/197@battlnet'
08:05 [9500] done (to 1:275/97@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
08:05 [9500] session closed, quitting...

What is the 80:30,169?


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Hello Bill,

On 16 Nov 16 08:07, Bill McGarrity wrote to Steven Sheeley:

08:05 [9500] VER Taurus/5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)/Win32
binkp/1.1
08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address: `1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30 0,169:1/197@battlnet'
08:05 [9500] done (to 1:275/97@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes)) 08:05 [9500] session closed, quitting...

What is the 80:30,169?

169:1/197 is indeed a valid address. It's the 80:300 that is not, and most likely the cause of your connection problem.

Regards,
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Hello Bill!

16 Nov 16 08:07, you wrote to me:

Hiya Steven..
08:05 [9500] outgoing session with infinity.synchro.net:24554 [75.109.30.219]
08:05 [9500] OPT LST UTF
08:05 [9500] OPT CRAM-MD5-55135765b255a7fc08e54a1b11e18545
08:05 [9500] Remote requests MD mode
08:05 [9500] SYS Split Infinity BBS, TCP/IP 1
08:05 [9500] ZYZ Steven Sheeley
08:05 [9500] LOC Rupert, WV
08:05 [9500] PHN infinity.synchro.net
08:05 [9500] NDL MO,CM,TCP,BND
08:05 [9500] TIME Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:08:24 -0500
08:05 [9500] VER Taurus/5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)/Win32
binkp/1.1
08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address: `1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30 0,169:1/197@battlnet'
08:05 [9500] done (to 1:275/97@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes)) 08:05 [9500] session closed, quitting...

ANd this is what taurus says:

6-Nov-2016 12:13:35 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 M_NUL : OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Station : TequilaMockingbird Online
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Address : 1:266/404 316:973/2 618:100/24 46:1/159 24:24/1 24:24/0 24:100/0 24:100/1 24:120/0 24:120/1
: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 SysOp : Bill McGarrity from Toms River, New Jersey USA
: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Number : 69.248.146.68
: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Flags : 115200,TCP,BINKP
: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 binkp/1.1
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Time : Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:10:34 -0500
* 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Err: Bad address
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Disconnect reason is fatal error
* 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session aborted
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b) [410b/378b]
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session time: 00:00:01
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 End

The 80 address on my system is listed as 80:304/0 as per the assignment from the hub. The 169 address is for Battlet net.

Steven


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Accession wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hia Nick...

On 16 Nov 16 08:07, Bill McGarrity wrote to Steven Sheeley:

08:05 [9500] VER Taurus/5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)/Win32
binkp/1.1
08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address: `1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30 0,169:1/197@battlnet'
08:05 [9500] done (to 1:275/97@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes)) 08:05 [9500] session closed, quitting...

What is the 80:30,169?

169:1/197 is indeed a valid address. It's the 80:300 that is not, and
most likely the cause of your connection problem.

I understand that.... that's why I asked him what that address was. :)


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Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Steve....

16 Nov 16 08:07, you wrote to me:

Hiya Steven..
08:05 [9500] outgoing session with infinity.synchro.net:24554 [75.109.30.219]
08:05 [9500] OPT LST UTF
08:05 [9500] OPT CRAM-MD5-55135765b255a7fc08e54a1b11e18545
08:05 [9500] Remote requests MD mode
08:05 [9500] SYS Split Infinity BBS, TCP/IP 1
08:05 [9500] ZYZ Steven Sheeley
08:05 [9500] LOC Rupert, WV
08:05 [9500] PHN infinity.synchro.net
08:05 [9500] NDL MO,CM,TCP,BND
08:05 [9500] TIME Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:08:24 -0500
08:05 [9500] VER Taurus/5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)/Win32
binkp/1.1
08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address: `1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30 <---- 0,169:1/197@battlnet'
08:05 [9500] done (to 1:275/97@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes)) 08:05 [9500] session closed, quitting...

ANd this is what taurus says:

6-Nov-2016 12:13:35 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 M_NUL : OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Station : TequilaMockingbird Online
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Address : 1:266/404 316:973/2 618:100/24 46:1/159 24:24/1 24:24/0 24:100/0 24:100/1 24:120/0 24:120/1 :
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 SysOp : Bill McGarrity from Toms River, New Jersey USA : 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Number : 69.248.146.68

: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Flags : 115200,TCP,BINKP
: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 binkp/1.1

= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Time : Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:10:34 -0500
* 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Err: Bad address
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Disconnect reason is fatal error
* 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session aborted
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b) [410b/378b]
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session time: 00:00:01
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 End

The 80 address on my system is listed as 80:304/0 as per the assignment from the hub. The 169 address is for Battlet net.

That's fine but it's bradcasting 80:300. There is no node # or domain associated with it. Look above where I placed the <----


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Hello Bill,

On 16 Nov 16 19:48, Bill McGarrity wrote to Accession:

What is the 80:30,169?

169:1/197 is indeed a valid address. It's the 80:300 that is not,
and most likely the cause of your connection problem.

I understand that.... that's why I asked him what that address was. :)

Sorry Bill. The way you wrote it above seemed (to me anyways) like you were considering that the entire bad address including the ",169" part, whereas the 169 is actually part of his Battlenet address. Was only trying to clarify if indeed it was misread.

On another note, his end seems to say something about a bad password. I've ran into this when trying to connect to the Argus family of mailers as well. If you

have CRAM-MD5 enabled with that system, you may want to try without it, as the MD5 checksum given by the Argus family mailers seems to have extra characters (blank spaces?) that you can't see on your end which can cause the connection to fail as it doesn't match up with yours. Figured I'd throw that out there in case you guys come to a standstill and can't figure it out after the bad address is fixed.

HTH.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Bill,

On 16 Nov 16 19:52, Bill McGarrity wrote to Steven Sheeley:

08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address:
`1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30
<---- 0,169:1/197@battlnet'

ANd this is what taurus says:

-0500 * 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Err: Bad address
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Disconnect reason is fatal error

The 80 address on my system is listed as 80:304/0 as per the
assignment from the hub. The 169 address is for Battlet net.

That's fine but it's bradcasting 80:300. There is no node # or domain associated with it. Look above where I placed the <----

Disregard the beginning of my last message to you. His mailer does seem to be giving the exact same error yours is. I had originally thought his was stating a bad password or something.

Second part of my previous message is just to keep in the back of your mind the

next time you have an issue linking up with an Argus family mailer. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Bill!

16 Nov 16 19:52, you wrote to me:

Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Steve....

16 Nov 16 08:07, you wrote to me:

Hiya Steven..
08:05 [9500] outgoing session with infinity.synchro.net:24554
[75.109.30.219]
08:05 [9500] OPT LST UTF
08:05 [9500] OPT CRAM-MD5-55135765b255a7fc08e54a1b11e18545
08:05 [9500] Remote requests MD mode
08:05 [9500] SYS Split Infinity BBS, TCP/IP 1
08:05 [9500] ZYZ Steven Sheeley
08:05 [9500] LOC Rupert, WV
08:05 [9500] PHN infinity.synchro.net
08:05 [9500] NDL MO,CM,TCP,BND
08:05 [9500] TIME Wed, 16 Nov 2016 13:08:24 -0500
08:05 [9500] VER Taurus/5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)/Win32
binkp/1.1
08:05 [9500] remote passed bad address:
`1:275/97@fidonet,10:10/145@league10,316:36/10@whispnet,80:30
<---- 0,169:1/197@battlnet'
08:05 [9500] done (to 1:275/97@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0
bytes))
08:05 [9500] session closed, quitting...

ANd this is what taurus says:

6-Nov-2016 12:13:35 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 M_NUL : OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Station : TequilaMockingbird Online
= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Address : 1:266/404 316:973/2
618:100/24
46:1/159 24:24/1 24:24/0 24:100/0 24:100/1 24:120/0 24:120/1 :
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 SysOp : Bill McGarrity from Toms River,
New Jersey USA : 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Number : 69.248.146.68

: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Flags : 115200,TCP,BINKP
: 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 binkp/1.1

= 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Time : Wed, 16 Nov 2016 12:10:34
-0500 * 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Err: Bad address
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Disconnect reason is fatal error
* 16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session aborted
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b)
[410b/378b]
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 Session time: 00:00:01
16-Nov-2016 12:13:36 End

The 80 address on my system is listed as 80:304/0 as per the
assignment from the hub. The 169 address is for Battlet net.

That's fine but it's bradcasting 80:300. There is no node # or domain associated with it. Look above where I placed the <----

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I appericate your help in this Bill but I can not find anythign in Taurus that would link to a bad address. And that error is only when talking to your system, I don't have that issue with any others. At least the "Bad Address" error in my logs. I'm not sure what to check next TBH.

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Accession wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hiya Nick...

On 16 Nov 16 19:48, Bill McGarrity wrote to Accession:

What is the 80:30,169?

169:1/197 is indeed a valid address. It's the 80:300 that is not,
and most likely the cause of your connection problem.

I understand that.... that's why I asked him what that address was. :)

Sorry Bill. The way you wrote it above seemed (to me anyways) like you were considering that the entire bad address including the ",169" part, whereas the 169 is actually part of his Battlenet address. Was only
trying to clarify if indeed it was misread.

YOu're correct, I added the 169 as well which was a mistake on my part.

On another note, his end seems to say something about a bad password.
I've ran into this when trying to connect to the Argus family of
mailers as well. If you have CRAM-MD5 enabled with that system, you may want to try without it, as the MD5 checksum given by the Argus family mailers seems to have extra characters (blank spaces?) that you can't
see on your end which can cause the connection to fail as it doesn't
match up with yours. Figured I'd throw that out there in case you guys come to a standstill and can't figure it out after the bad address is fixed.

I don't have a thing setup on my end for him regarding passwords. He sent me netmail which my system accepted. I was just trying to answer him.

Be well...


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Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

Hello Bill!

16 Nov 16 19:52, you wrote to me:

Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

The 80 address on my system is listed as 80:304/0 as per the
assignment from the hub. The 169 address is for Battlet net.

That's fine but it's bradcasting 80:300. There is no node # or domain associated with it. Look above where I placed the <----

I appericate your help in this Bill but I can not find anythign in
Taurus that would link to a bad address. And that error is only when talking to your system, I don't have that issue with any others. At
least the "Bad Address" error in my logs. I'm not sure what to check
next TBH.

May want to read what Nick wrote in a previous message. Seems he's getting a similar message as well. Read his reasoning why with regard to Argus mailers.


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Hello Bill!

17 Nov 16 19:15, you wrote to me:

May want to read what Nick wrote in a previous message. Seems he's getting a similar message as well. Read his reasoning why with regard
to Argus mailers.

I've follwed your advice and I can connec to Nick's system just fine:

18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Begin v5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601, Service Pack
1)
^ 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Connect To 24.209.142.55 #24554
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 M_NUL : OPT CRAM-MD5-db66afff3ed4ba60f0a6fa1f762d4eee
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Using AKAs: 46:1/177
= 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Station : The Pharcyde
= 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Address : 1:154/10 1:154/0 46:1/100 46:1/0 723:1/1 911:1262/1
: 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 SysOp : Nicholas Boel from Pewaukee, WI USA
: 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Number : "binkp.pharcyde.org"
: 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Flags : 115200,TCP,BINKP
: 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-94/Linux binkp/1.1
= 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Time : Fri, 18 Nov 2016 07:29:54 -0600
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Password-protected session (auth=CRAM-MD5)
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Remote has 0b of mail and 996b of files for us
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 M_NUL : OPT EXTCMD NR GZ BZ2
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Handshake time - 0 seconds
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Nothing for them
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Receiving '2f025700.fr0' (996b)
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 SEND: End of batch
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Received 'C:\taurus\IN\2f025700.fr0'
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 RECE: End of batch
* 18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Session completed successfully
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Session traf: in: 1 (996b) out: 0 (0b) [1393b/337b]
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Session time: 00:00:00
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Executing command "C:\taurus\sbbs-toss.bat" Minimised/Normal (PID=1450)
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 Process "C:\taurus\sbbs-toss.bat" (PID=1450) is leaving in background
18-Nov-2016 08:29:58 End

However, if I poll you, I get:

18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601, Service Pack
1)
^ 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Connect From 69.248.146.68 #24554
18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 M_NUL : OPT NDA EXTCMD CRYPT GZ
= 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Station : TequilaMockingbird Online
= 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Address : 1:266/404 316:973/2 618:100/24 46:1/159 24:24/1 24:24/0 24:100/0 24:100/1 24:120/0 24:120/1
: 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 SysOp : Bill McGarrity from Toms River, New Jersey USA
: 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Number : 69.248.146.68
: 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Flags : 115200,TCP,BINKP
: 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 binkp/1.1
= 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Time : Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:28:16 -0500
* 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Err: Bad address
18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Disconnect reason is fatal error
* 18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Session aborted
18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b) [410b/378b]
18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 Session time: 00:00:00
18-Nov-2016 08:31:41 End

And I don't understand why I am getting a "Bad Addres" from your system and not
from his. TBH, I am not thrilled with Taurus, Radius or Argus. Although they are Win32 GUI apps, I am inclined, at this time, to try something different. As
I've said before, I have a 50 Node license for IREX and will prolly be setting that up today and testing it. Lastly, I may shift over to BinkD. Either way, I
think/Hope I can get this fixed so that my system is not falking out when other
connect.

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Hello Steven,

On 18 Nov 16 08:31, Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity:

I've follwed your advice and I can connec to Nick's system just fine:

And I don't understand why I am getting a "Bad Addres" from your
system and not from his. TBH, I am not thrilled with Taurus, Radius
or Argus. Although they are Win32 GUI apps, I am inclined, at this
time, to try something different. As I've said before, I have a 50
Node license for IREX and will prolly be setting that up today and
testing it. Lastly, I may shift over to BinkD. Either way, I
think/Hope I can get this fixed so that my system is not falking out
when other connect.

I think we may be on to something here. I took a look at my end's logs, and noticed you're only presenting your Agoranet AKA to me when you poll here. So it seems you're hiding all your other AKAs for our connection.

Whatever you did in regards to our connection, you will most likely have to do the same with Bill's as he's using the same mailer I am. You're currently presenting all of your AKAs to him.

Regards,
Nick

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Nicholas Boel wrote to Steven Sheeley <=-

Hello Steven,

On 18 Nov 16 08:31, Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity:

I've follwed your advice and I can connec to Nick's system just fine:

And I don't understand why I am getting a "Bad Addres" from your
system and not from his. TBH, I am not thrilled with Taurus, Radius
or Argus. Although they are Win32 GUI apps, I am inclined, at this
time, to try something different. As I've said before, I have a 50
Node license for IREX and will prolly be setting that up today and
testing it. Lastly, I may shift over to BinkD. Either way, I
think/Hope I can get this fixed so that my system is not falking out
when other connect.

I think we may be on to something here. I took a look at my end's logs, and noticed you're only presenting your Agoranet AKA to me when you
poll here. So it seems you're hiding all your other AKAs for our connection.

Whatever you did in regards to our connection, you will most likely
have to do the same with Bill's as he's using the same mailer I am.
You're currently presenting all of your AKAs to him.

Thank you Nick. When I saw his log to you I noticed that as well. Was going to write him but you beat me to it.

You da man!!


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Hello Bill,

On 18 Nov 16 14:23, Bill McGarrity wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Whatever you did in regards to our connection, you will most
likely have to do the same with Bill's as he's using the same
mailer I am. You're currently presenting all of your AKAs to him.

Thank you Nick. When I saw his log to you I noticed that as well.
Was going to write him but you beat me to it.

No problem. Glad I could help. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Nicholas!

18 Nov 16 09:00, you wrote to me:

I think we may be on to something here. I took a look at my end's
logs, and noticed you're only presenting your Agoranet AKA to me when
you poll here. So it seems you're hiding all your other AKAs for our connection.

Whatever you did in regards to our connection, you will most likely
have to do the same with Bill's as he's using the same mailer I am.
You're currently presenting all of your AKAs to him.

Problem is, I can not find anything in Taurus that allows me to stop the presenting ok AKAs to a connection. And, since the damn help file is 90% Russian, I can't look there either. Which is why I am debating about dropping Taurus and moving over to IRex until such time and I have enough knowledge to pick up the Abandonware that Argus/Radius/Taurus has been come and release it as Northwind (Or maybe a kewler name, :) ).
\Bottom line is, I can not find the things in Taurus to really troubleshoot this and I'm sorry.

Steven


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Hello Steven,

On 18 Nov 16 14:57, Steven Sheeley wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Whatever you did in regards to our connection, you will most
likely have to do the same with Bill's as he's using the same
mailer I am. You're currently presenting all of your AKAs to him.

Problem is, I can not find anything in Taurus that allows me to stop
the presenting ok AKAs to a connection. And, since the damn help file
is 90% Russian, I can't look there either. Which is why I am debating about dropping Taurus and moving over to IRex until such time and I
have enough knowledge to pick up the Abandonware that
Argus/Radius/Taurus has been come and release it as Northwind (Or
maybe a kewler name, :) ). \Bottom line is, I can not find the things
in Taurus to really troubleshoot this and I'm sorry.

Just diff the settings between Bill's and my entries in your mailer (Taurus) and see what is different and if it pertains to this case.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Bill!


I think I may have figured it out. I was able to successfully connect to your system Bill:

18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Begin v5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)
18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601, Service Pack
1)
^ 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Connect To 69.248.146.68 #24554
18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 M_NUL : OPT CRAM-MD5-da04b8122f714c4d09ab4206671d0fee
= 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Station : TequilaMockingbird Online
= 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Address : 1:266/404 316:973/2 618:100/24 46:1/159 24:24/1 24:24/0 24:100/0 24:100/1 24:120/0 24:120/1
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 SysOp : Bill McGarrity from Toms River, New Jersey USA
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Number : "ftn.tequilamockingbirdonline.net"
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Flags : 115200,TCP,BINKP
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Mailer : binkd/1.1a-94/Win32 binkp/1.1
= 18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Time : Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:58:36 -0500
18-Nov-2016 22:02:06 Non-password session
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 M_NUL : OPT EXTCMD GZ
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 Remote submitted insecure session
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 Handshake time - 1 seconds
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 Nothing for them
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 RECE: End of batch
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 SEND: End of batch
* 18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 Session completed successfully
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b) [460b/306b]
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 Session time: 00:00:01
18-Nov-2016 22:02:07 End

The only system I am still having issues with is the Necronomicon BBS which is my Net 80 hub.

18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Begin v5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601, Service Pack
1)
^ 18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Connect To 73.219.74.147 #24554
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 M_NUL : OPT CRAM-MD5-7c6e25ea242c4fa93099620ceabb1fd9
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Using AKAs: 80:304/0
= 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Station : Necronomicon BBS
= 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Address : 21:1/122 9:91/22 46:1/122 44:100/13 24:100/4 57:57/27 42:256/9 719:508/1 618:100/26 40:200/2 411:411/16 316:973/7 1:322/756 80:774/1 637:1/108 432:1/107 39:902/503 21:2/122 314:314/30
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Number : "necrobbs.strangled.net"
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Mailer : Mystic/1.12A31 binkp/1.0
18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Disconnect reason is fatal error
! 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session with 21:1/122 9:91/22 46:1/122 44:100/13 24:100/4 57:57/27 42:256/9 719:508/1 618:100/26 40:200/2 411:411/16 316:973/7 1:322/756 80:774/1 637:1/108 432:1/107 39:902/503 21:2/122 314:314/30 when dialled 80:774/0 - disconnecting
* 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session aborted
18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b) [461b/657b]
18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session time: 00:00:01
18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 End



Steven


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15 Nov 16 22:06, you wrote to Steven Sheeley:

FYI, Irex and Argus are probably two of the worst mailers still in use today. They were great in their heyday, but most of the newer
softwares out these days have to add a bunch of code to work around a bunch of those two mailer's faults. Irex moreso, since it's not
supported anymore. At least the source for the other one (or one of
it's sisters, Radius or Taurus) is out there. But still hasn't really
been fixed at all.

actually, the sources for all three are available... the bad part is it is delphi code and so not cross platform... stripping out and converting the winwhatever mess is a huge task

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Hello Steven,

On 18 Nov 16 21:59, Steven Sheeley wrote to Bill McGarrity:

The only system I am still having issues with is the Necronomicon BBS which is my Net 80 hub.

18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Begin v5.101/16.02.2009, 19:33 (Winter)
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Running under: Windows NT 6.1 (build: 7601,
Service Pack 1) ^ 18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Connect To 73.219.74.147 #24554
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Establishing BinkP transfer protocol
18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 M_NUL : OPT CRAM-MD5-7c6e25ea242c4fa93099620ceabb1fd9 18-Nov-2016 22:02:51 Using
AKAs: 80:304/0 = 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Station : Necronomicon BBS = 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Address : 21:1/122 9:91/22 46:1/122 44:100/13 24:100/4 57:57/27 42:256/9 719:508/1 618:100/26 40:200/2 411:411/16 316:973/7 1:322/756 80:774/1 637:1/108 432:1/107 39:902/503 21:2/122 314:314/30
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Number : "necrobbs.strangled.net"
: 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Mailer : Mystic/1.12A31 binkp/1.0
18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Disconnect reason is fatal error
! 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session with 21:1/122 9:91/22 46:1/122
44:100/13 24:100/4 57:57/27 42:256/9 719:508/1 618:100/26 40:200/2 411:411/16 316:973/7 1:322/756 80:774/1 637:1/108 432:1/107 39:902/503 21:2/122 314:314/30 when dialled 80:774/0 - disconnecting *
18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session aborted 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session
traf: in: 0 (0b) out: 0 (0b) [461b/657b] 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 Session time: 00:00:01 18-Nov-2016 22:02:52 End

Looks there like you're trying to poll 80:774/0, but the address he's presenting is 80:774/1.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello mark!

18 Nov 16 22:04, you wrote to Accession:

15 Nov 16 22:06, you wrote to Steven Sheeley:

actually, the sources for all three are available... the bad part is
it is delphi code and so not cross platform... stripping out and converting the winwhatever mess is a huge task

I have the source code for all three and have been playing a little with Taurus. There are a few memory leaks and my knowledge of the FTN protocols are severely lacking but I'm spending time looking and learning.

Free pascal and the Lazarus IDE do a very good job of converting Delphi projects. I've converted the Delphi code of Taurus into a FP/Lazarus project and am almost to the point where it will compile. My main issue is that Radius and Taurus are commented in Russian and the help files are 90% Russian and have
been abandoned which makes it very hard to understand what and why of the coding.

Argus is better but it's severely out dated.

Steven


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Hello Accession!

18 Nov 16 22:51, you wrote to me:

Looks there like you're trying to poll 80:774/0, but the address he's presenting is 80:774/1.

Ok. Tried polling 80:74/1 and Taurus sits at the negotiation part, doing not much of anything save trying to negotiate a BinkP connection.



Steven


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Hello Steven,

On 19 Nov 16 08:13, Steven Sheeley wrote to Accession:

Looks there like you're trying to poll 80:774/0, but the address
he's presenting is 80:774/1.

Ok. Tried polling 80:74/1 and Taurus sits at the negotiation part,
doing not much of anything save trying to negotiate a BinkP
connection.

Hopefully the above was just a typo? That would be 774, and not 74.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Accession!

19 Nov 16 08:39, you wrote to me:

Hopefully the above was just a typo? That would be 774, and not 74.

Regards,
Nick

Yep, a typo when I entered the message here. I polled 80:774/1 although, according to the document I received from him when I joined the network, I am to be polling 80:774/0


Steven


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Hello Steven,

On 19 Nov 16 14:56, Steven Sheeley wrote to Accession:

Hopefully the above was just a typo? That would be 774, and not
74.

Yep, a typo when I entered the message here. I polled 80:774/1
although, according to the document I received from him when I joined
the network, I am to be polling 80:774/0

Then it's possible he has his mailer setup wrong.

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Accession!

19 Nov 16 16:07, you wrote to me:

Hello Steven,

Then it's possible he has his mailer setup wrong.

Actually, there are a bunch of issues with the last copy of the nodelist that I
received for Retronet. Taurus only compiles the first two parts and leaves the rest. I can browse the nodelist bit don't even see my node inside Taurus, but it's there in the raw nodelist.

Currently, my hub in Agoranet is the only system that I can not connect with so
I'm tending to believe that I've gotten all of my issues cleared up.

Steven


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19 Nov 16 08:05, you wrote to me:

actually, the sources for all three are available... the bad part is
it is delphi code and so not cross platform... stripping out and
converting the winwhatever mess is a huge task

I have the source code for all three and have been playing a little
with Taurus. There are a few memory leaks and my knowledge of the FTN protocols are severely lacking but I'm spending time looking and
learning.

you are where i was several years ago...

Free pascal and the Lazarus IDE do a very good job of converting
Delphi projects.

my conversion attempts with taurus is one of the main reasons why the conversion of it is so easy now... i assume you moved that one batch of library
code out of the way since it is kinda duplicated in FPC/Lazarus code... i forget the actual name of it but it was a PITA previously when i started the conversion...

I've converted the Delphi code of Taurus into a FP/Lazarus project and
am almost to the point where it will compile. My main issue is that
Radius and Taurus are commented in Russian

the first thing i did was to take every comment as i came across it and paste it into google translate... those results i pasted back into the code in place of the russian comments... the idea to later fix the broken english...

and the help files are 90% Russian and have been abandoned

long ago i also startd working on converting this in the same way as above... pasting paragrpahs into google translate and the into the help files... i had taken those <deity> awful CHM carp files and ran them through a converter or three to create decent HTML files which is what i worked with... i have not yet
returned to that task...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/fidonet/Taurus/help/

which makes it very hard to understand what and why of the coding.

understanding fidonet and how it works is the biggest part... the rest is just someone's idea of the methodology... the best thing about the ART family is they maintained FTS-0001 capabilities while also adding binkp and others making
the family the most fully compliant FTN software available... IREX is close in there and may actually be the first... i recall the IREX author being on several of the beta teams i was on... then something happened and i haven't seen hide nor hair from him since but others have for a time...

Argus is better but it's severely out dated.

actually, argus is not... it is the first edition... radius came after and built on that while fixing bugs and adding features... taurus is the latest and
is based on the radius code with more fixes and features... i went through all of them back when they were actively developed and upgraded from one to the other as they came out and the previous one fell to the side of the road... if you are comparing them to how other binkp software operates, there's a large chunk of salt you need to take as well with that comparison... especially where
the binkp protocol has expanded in its capabilities and other software (mystic being one) have had to fight through the incompatibilities and misconfigurations to even make the start that has been made...

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Hello mark!

19 Nov 16 22:32, you wrote to me:

What I meant by Argus is better (sic) is that it doesn't crash with random memory leaks. The reason I stick with Taurus is because of the additions and functions built into it.

Now that's funny, I've done the exact same thing concerning the comments in the
code and the help files. (grin)


If you would like to collaborate on this project, I would be honored to have con-conspirators in this endeavor.

Steven


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Hello Steven,

On 19 Nov 16 20:46, Steven Sheeley wrote to Accession:

Then it's possible he has his mailer setup wrong.

Actually, there are a bunch of issues with the last copy of the
nodelist that I received for Retronet. Taurus only compiles the first
two parts and leaves the rest. I can browse the nodelist bit don't
even see my node inside Taurus, but it's there in the raw nodelist.

Currently, my hub in Agoranet is the only system that I can not
connect with so I'm tending to believe that I've gotten all of my
issues cleared up.

You're connecting to your Agoranet hub just fine (that's me). :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Accession!

20 Nov 16 08:48, you wrote to me:

You're connecting to your Agoranet hub just fine (that's me). :)

Sorry, fingers got ahead of the brain (Happens quick frequently these days). I meant my Net 80 (Retronet) hub. I'm 80:304/0 and I should be connecting to 80:774/0 and I can't drops with a fatal error.

Steven


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Steven Sheeley wrote to Accession <=-

20 Nov 16 08:48, you wrote to me:

You're connecting to your Agoranet hub just fine (that's me). :)

Sorry, fingers got ahead of the brain (Happens quick frequently these days). I meant my Net 80 (Retronet) hub. I'm 80:304/0 and I should be connecting to 80:774/0 and I can't drops with a fatal error.

I still think it's an error in your cfg. It was howing me an aka of 80:304.0 with no domain.May want to delete that address completely from your cfg file and re-enter it.


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Hello Bill!

20 Nov 16 18:24, you wrote to me:

I still think it's an error in your cfg. It was howing me an aka of 80:304.0 with no domain.May want to delete that address completely
from your cfg file and re-enter it.

Is it still giving you an error? I am able to connect to your fidonet address just fine. Here's my Address List in the TCP/IP Daemon configuraiotn area now:

1:275/97@fidonet 10:10/145@league10 316:36/10@whispnet 80:304/0@retronet 46:1/177@agoranet 40:100/108@cybernet 801:1/12@rdwxnet 169:1/197@battlnet 432:1/116@vkradio

Steven


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Hello Steven,

On 20 Nov 16 14:15, Steven Sheeley wrote to Accession:

You're connecting to your Agoranet hub just fine (that's me). :)

Sorry, fingers got ahead of the brain (Happens quick frequently these days). I meant my Net 80 (Retronet) hub. I'm 80:304/0 and I should be connecting to 80:774/0 and I can't drops with a fatal error.

No worries. You may want to contact your Retronet hub and let them know they're

presenting the wrong address in their mailer, though.

Regards,
Nick

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