• Timeouts

    From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Thu Jul 27 07:23:00 2017
    Tony,

    Good one. :) But, I've known ham radio operators who have "a foot switch" in their shack, as it frees up their hand for logging.

    Yes, I have heard of that too, good idea. I once had a toggle switch, and h TL>it hooked to a monostable, so the transmitter couldn't be left keyed TL>indefinitely. The timer also prevented me from timing out the repeaters. :)

    The thing is, I think in the U.S., Part 97 of the FCC Rules has a deal
    with the "repeater timeout" at 3 minutes, but I'm not sure. I'd have to
    search the REGSCAN door on the BBS for that.

    I know one repeater that has a 4 minute timeout, but at the other
    extreme, I knew of one with a 1 minute timeout. I set my timer on
    Echolink and D-Star for no more than 2 minutes before I reset...then, I
    wait at least 7 seconds before keying up again, to give all the links
    time to reset.

    On one net, the repeater trustee, and owner of the Echolink node for
    it, timed out his system. There was a "joke" that "those who timed out
    the repeater got 'The Purple Panties Award'". Now, it wasn't a literal
    set of purple panties on a scantily clad female (I can hear the groans
    of all the OM's now (hi hi)), but more as a "joke". When he timed out
    HIS OWN SYSTEM, repeater and Echolink node, you can IMAGINE all of the
    comments in the Echolink textbox...which proves that "with friends like
    us (ham radio operators), you don't need any enemies"!! <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 28 06:28:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    The thing is, I think in the U.S., Part 97 of the FCC Rules has a
    deal with the "repeater timeout" at 3 minutes, but I'm not sure. I'd
    have to search the REGSCAN door on the BBS for that.

    Most vary between 3 and 10 minutes in Australia. I believe 10 minutes is the normal legal limit, but there are exceptions for special purposes.

    I know one repeater that has a 4 minute timeout, but at the other extreme, I knew of one with a 1 minute timeout. I set my timer on
    Echolink and D-Star for no more than 2 minutes before I reset...then, I wait at least 7 seconds before keying up again, to give all the links
    time to reset.

    I have seen a 1 minute repeater, but it is very rare here, rare to have anything less than 3 minutes. In my experience, 4 minutes is the sweet spot.

    On one net, the repeater trustee, and owner of the Echolink node for
    it, timed out his system. There was a "joke" that "those who timed out
    the repeater got 'The Purple Panties Award'". Now, it wasn't a literal
    set of purple panties on a scantily clad female (I can hear the groans
    of all the OM's now (hi hi)), but more as a "joke". When he timed out
    HIS OWN SYSTEM, repeater and Echolink node, you can IMAGINE all of the comments in the Echolink textbox...which proves that "with friends like
    us (ham radio operators), you don't need any enemies"!! <G>

    Haha, here you just get the crocodile award. :D And then there's the HF operators who could time out a simplex channel. :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Thu Jul 27 21:47:00 2017
    Tony,

    Haha, here you just get the crocodile award. :D And then there's the HF TL>operators who could time out a simplex channel. :D

    That's rich!! <BG>

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 29 08:47:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Haha, here you just get the crocodile award. :D And then there's the HF
    operators who could time out a simplex channel. :D

    That's rich!! <BG>

    Haha, they do exist! :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sat Jul 29 07:39:00 2017
    Tony,

    Haha, here you just get the crocodile award. :D And then there's the HF TL>operators who could time out a simplex channel. :D

    That's rich!! <BG>

    Haha, they do exist! :D

    I'll have to remember that one. I've heard of several funny things
    since first becoming licensed 26 years ago, but that's a scream!!

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 30 07:36:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Haha, here you just get the crocodile award. :D And then there's the
    F
    operators who could time out a simplex channel. :D

    That's rich!! <BG>

    Haha, they do exist! :D

    I'll have to remember that one. I've heard of several funny things
    since first becoming licensed 26 years ago, but that's a scream!!

    Haha, have fun with it. I've certainly encountered a few who would have a good go at timing out a simplex channel. I have heard them time out HF! (go on so long, the band closed before the end of their over ;) ).


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Sun Jul 30 09:33:00 2017
    Tony,

    Haha, have fun with it. I've certainly encountered a few who would have a g TL>go at timing out a simplex channel. I have heard them time out HF! (go on s TL>long, the band closed before the end of their over ;) ).

    That's the way HF is. I am using the Solar Data and Local Weather
    Apps (both only for Synchronet BBS), but they are just at logon. Lately,
    HF band conditions have, to put it bluntly, "sucked". And, it's amazing
    how fast the band can open, it can close just as quickly.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jul 31 09:03:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    That's the way HF is. I am using the Solar Data and Local Weather
    Apps (both only for Synchronet BBS), but they are just at logon.

    I haven't looked at those apps yet.

    Lately, HF band conditions have, to put it bluntly, "sucked". And, it's amazing how fast the band can open, it can close just as quickly.

    Yes, which makes you wonder where the long over comes from. :)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Tue Aug 1 02:39:00 2017
    Tony,

    That's the way HF is. I am using the Solar Data and Local Weather Apps (both only for Synchronet BBS), but they are just at logon.

    I haven't looked at those apps yet.

    I got them from Mojo, but could find them and upload them to your BBS,
    if you wanted them. The solar data is gotten from a ham radio website,
    while the weather data takes the IP of the user logging on, and displays
    a weather forecast for the next few days for their location. However,
    that may work only for U.S. cities. You have to get a "key" from Weather Underground, but there's a package for a certain amount of "logons",
    where you don't have to pay anything.

    I have several ham radio and weather doors online, since those are the
    main themes of the BBS. I am trying to obtain a packet setup, where I
    can activate a VHF Packet Door.

    Lately, HF band conditions have, to put it bluntly, "sucked". And, it's amazing how fast the band can open, it can close just as quickly.

    Yes, which makes you wonder where the long over comes from. :)

    Last week, as I was about to issue "the last call for checkins" for
    the Arklatex D-Star Net, the D-Star Reflector that it was on, crashed. I
    think it was back up a couple of days later.

    Also, on D-Star, Reflector 002 is OFFLINE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. From
    what I understand, there was a "hack" on the system, and they likely are
    going to have to rebuild it from scratch, or get a brand new reflector.
    I've been busy passing the word around, that nets which used Reflector
    002 as a primary or backup reflector for their nets, to find an
    alternate reflector.

    I wonder if any of the Echolink or EL/IRLP nodes...or conference
    servers, have ever had problems with a data hack.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 1 21:14:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    I got them from Mojo, but could find them and upload them to your
    BBS, if you wanted them. The solar data is gotten from a ham radio website, while the weather data takes the IP of the user logging on,
    and displays a weather forecast for the next few days for their
    location. However, that may work only for U.S. cities. You have to get
    a "key" from Weather Underground, but there's a package for a certain amount of "logons", where you don't have to pay anything.

    Yeah, they could be useful. Only place to upload is uploads to the sysop. :)

    I have several ham radio and weather doors online, since those are
    the main themes of the BBS. I am trying to obtain a packet setup, where
    I can activate a VHF Packet Door.

    I am slowly working towards a packet setup too, but I would have to use a virtual TNC for the BBS, which I could do with LinBPQ. :)

    Last week, as I was about to issue "the last call for checkins" for
    the Arklatex D-Star Net, the D-Star Reflector that it was on, crashed.
    I think it was back up a couple of days later.

    Like the day the reflector for the VoIP WX Net dropped dead in the middle of an activation (hardware failure, I think).

    Also, on D-Star, Reflector 002 is OFFLINE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. From what I understand, there was a "hack" on the system, and they likely
    are going to have to rebuild it from scratch, or get a brand new reflector. I've been busy passing the word around, that nets which used Reflector 002 as a primary or backup reflector for their nets, to find
    an alternate reflector.

    I wonder if any of the Echolink or EL/IRLP nodes...or conference servers, have ever had problems with a data hack.

    O have heard of the occasional issue with a node, usually due to a weak password.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:103/705 to TONY LANGDON on Wed Aug 2 20:31:00 2017
    Tony,

    Yeah, they could be useful. Only place to upload is uploads to the sysop. :

    I noted that neither have EXEs, so I might be able to just email them
    to you. GMail and several other email deals won't let you send emails
    that have EXEs in them...even if they're in archives. For the syncwx,
    you have to contact weatherunderground for a special API key. They do
    have a package where it allows a certain number of "program runs" a day
    for free. I have it set only as a logon door. The solar data one doesn't require a special key...but both REQUIRE ANSI and both will run under Synchronet ONLY. I'll have to make myself a note to get these to you in
    the next few days.

    I am slowly working towards a packet setup too, but I would have to use a TL>virtual TNC for the BBS, which I could do with LinBPQ. :)

    The gear arrived today, but with apartment inspections the next 2
    days, I'm not going to get to set it up or work with it until sometime
    next week. Plus, we're in an unsettled weather pattern right now, with
    good chances of thunderstorms each day. So, that means little to no
    computer, BBS, or VoIP Ham Radio Work.

    Like the day the reflector for the VoIP WX Net dropped dead in the middle of TL>activation (hardware failure, I think).

    Hate it when that happens.

    I wonder if any of the Echolink or EL/IRLP nodes...or conference servers, have ever had problems with a data hack.

    O have heard of the occasional issue with a node, usually due to a weak TL>password.

    Sheesh...you'd think the sysadmins would know better.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Daryl Stout on Thu Aug 3 21:41:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    for free. I have it set only as a logon door. The solar data one
    doesn't require a special key...but both REQUIRE ANSI and both will run under Synchronet ONLY. I'll have to make myself a note to get these to
    you in the next few days.

    Thanks, I have Synchronet here, so that's not an issue. :)

    I am slowly working towards a packet setup too, but I would have to use a
    virtual TNC for the BBS, which I could do with LinBPQ. :)

    The gear arrived today, but with apartment inspections the next 2
    days, I'm not going to get to set it up or work with it until sometime next week. Plus, we're in an unsettled weather pattern right now, with good chances of thunderstorms each day. So, that means little to no computer, BBS, or VoIP Ham Radio Work.

    Yeah, always bad timing. :(

    Like the day the reflector for the VoIP WX Net dropped dead in the middle
    f
    activation (hardware failure, I think).

    Hate it when that happens.

    The fallback strategy worked perfectly, we were back up and running on the alternate reflector in minutes. :)

    I wonder if any of the Echolink or EL/IRLP nodes...or conference servers, have ever had problems with a data hack.

    O have heard of the occasional issue with a node, usually due to a weak
    password.

    Sheesh...you'd think the sysadmins would know better.

    Most node owners are newbies.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Daryl Stout on Thu Aug 3 08:23:44 2017

    On 2017 Aug 02 20:31:00, you wrote to TONY LANGDON:

    Yeah, they could be useful. Only place to upload is uploads to the
    sysop. :

    I noted that neither have EXEs, so I might be able to just email them
    to you. GMail and several other email deals won't let you send emails
    that have EXEs in them...even if they're in archives.

    so just change the extension to .txt or, even easier, add .txt as the extension...

    eg:
    myarchive.zip -> myarchive.txt
    mysrchive.zip -> myarchive.zip.txt

    and make sure to include a note to change the extension or remove it depending on which ever why you chose to go...

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