• File search Issues

    From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jan 8 12:00:24 2017
    Hey Rob,

    Just noticed today when trying to search the term 'Telix' and doing a full extended description scan of all directories "even my nightowl ones" its coming up nothing, so I listed a few directories and found a lot of telix stuff, so I changed my search term to "ham, amateur, satellite, radio" I have thousands of ham radio files online, searched "Description scan, extended descriptions" all file areas, the new statusbar come up, looking pretty and all, and did'nt produce any results. just thought I'd let you know.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Sun Jan 8 15:18:12 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Sun Jan 08 2017 12:00 pm

    Hey Rob,

    Just noticed today when trying to search the term 'Telix' and doing a full extended description scan of all directories "even my nightowl ones" its coming up nothing, so I listed a few directories and found a lot of telix stuff, so I changed my search term to "ham, amateur, satellite, radio" I have thousands of ham radio files online, searched "Description scan, extended descriptions" all file areas, the new statusbar come up, looking pretty and all, and did'nt produce any results. just thought I'd let you know.

    If you include commas, the search isn't likely to work as the search string is a verbatim (though, case insensitive) search. So searching for "ham, amateur" will only match items with that exact string ("ham, amateur") not "ham" or "amateur".

    As for the search for Telix, are you searching for filenames or descriptions? Please provide more details. You could also try a similar search here (I have one or two nightowl CDs here) and let me know if it's behaving the same as on your BBS.

    digital man

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jan 8 20:20:48 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Sun Jan 08 2017 03:18 pm

    If you include commas, the search isn't likely to work as the search string is a verbatim (though, case insensitive) search. So searching for "ham, amateur" will only match items with that exact string ("ham, amateur") not "ham" or "amateur".

    I was searching one word at a time, Searching extended descriptions..

    As for the search for Telix, are you searching for filenames or descriptions? Please provide more details. You could also try a similar search here (I have one or two nightowl CDs here) and let me know if it's behaving the same as on your BBS.

    Extended descriptions was what I was searching, then regular descriptions, then I did a filename search on ALL file areas also eg *telix* nothing.. None of the search function is working whatsoever, I am using the old s3 shell by tracker1 but you can tell the search function is done by the internal BBS system and not the shell, if thats even possible.

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  • From kk4qbn@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Jan 8 20:25:00 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Sun Jan 08 2017 03:18 pm

    search here (I have one or two nightowl CDs here) and let me know if it's behaving the same as on your BBS.

    Hell.. works fine on yours, so it has to be an issue in the s3 scripts I presume, guess I'll need to go another route.. Thanks for the help..

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Mon Jan 9 12:54:36 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Sun Jan 08 2017 08:20 pm

    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Sun Jan 08 2017 03:18 pm

    If you include commas, the search isn't likely to work as the search string is a verbatim (though, case insensitive) search. So searching for "ham, amateur" will only match items with that exact string ("ham, amateur") not "ham" or "amateur".

    I was searching one word at a time, Searching extended descriptions..

    As for the search for Telix, are you searching for filenames or descriptions? Please provide more details. You could also try a similar search here (I have one or two nightowl CDs here) and let me know if it's behaving the same as on your BBS.

    Extended descriptions was what I was searching, then regular descriptions, then I did a filename search on ALL file areas also eg *telix* nothing.. None of the search function is working whatsoever, I am using the old s3 shell by tracker1 but you can tell the search function is done by the internal BBS system and not the shell, if thats even possible.

    I don't have any immediate ideas. Do you actually have files that match the search string "*telix*" in your filebase?

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to kk4qbn on Mon Jan 9 12:59:06 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Mon Jan 09 2017 12:54 pm

    Re: File search Issues
    By: kk4qbn to Digital Man on Sun Jan 08 2017 08:20 pm

    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Sun Jan 08 2017 03:18 pm

    If you include commas, the search isn't likely to work as the search string is a verbatim (though, case insensitive) search. So searching for "ham, amateur" will only match items with that exact string ("ham, amateur") not "ham" or "amateur".

    I was searching one word at a time, Searching extended descriptions..

    As for the search for Telix, are you searching for filenames or descriptions? Please provide more details. You could also try a similar search here (I have one or two nightowl CDs here) and let me know if it's behaving the same as on your BBS.

    Extended descriptions was what I was searching, then regular descriptions, then I did a filename search on ALL file areas also eg *telix* nothing.. None of the search function is working whatsoever, I am using the old s3 shell by tracker1 but you can tell the search function is done by the internal BBS system and not the shell, if thats even possible.

    I don't have any immediate ideas. Do you actually have files that match the search string "*telix*" in your filebase?

    BTW, Synchronet doesn't actually support filename searches (through the filebase) with multiple '*' wildcard chars and anything *after* the '*' (and before a '.') is ignored, so "*telix" should produce the same results as "*" (i.e. all files). This searching should and eventually will be replaced, but for now, it's a basic MS-DOS like wildcard match.

    digital man

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  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 9 17:24:08 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Mon Jan 09 2017 12:54 pm

    I was searching one word at a time, Searching extended descriptions..

    As for the search for Telix, are you searching for filenames or
    descriptions? Please provide more details. You could also try a
    similar search here (I have one or two nightowl CDs here) and let
    me know if it's behaving the same as on your BBS.

    Extended descriptions was what I was searching, then regular
    descriptions, then I did a filename search on ALL file areas also eg
    *telix* nothing.. None of the search function is working whatsoever, I
    am using the old s3 shell by tracker1 but you can tell the search
    function is done by the internal BBS system and not the shell, if
    thats even possible.

    I don't have any immediate ideas. Do you actually have files that match the search string "*telix*" in your filebase?

    I got rid of the s3 Shell and using deuces Lightbar Shell and everything is working fine now, everything with file listings look so much better, and the search term *telix* came up about 3000 times, (I have a lot of nightowl) I believe the s3 shell is just no longer compatible with the newer version of sync, or I had it installed wrong or someting, everything just looks so much better now with the lightbar shell, I'm sticking with it, I only allow one shell to be used on the system at a time so if people are having issues it's much easier to fix.. I dunno what was up with S3, it was'nt giving error, it just did'nt work, filename searches, keyword, wildcards, nothing.

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  • From KK4QBN@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 9 19:44:38 2017
    Re: File search Issues
    By: Digital Man to kk4qbn on Mon Jan 09 2017 12:59 pm

    BTW, Synchronet doesn't actually support filename searches (through the filebase) with multiple '*' wildcard chars and anything *after* the '*' (and before a '.') is ignored, so "*telix" should produce the same results as "*" (i.e. all files). This searching should and eventually will be replaced, but for now, it's a basic MS-DOS like wildcard match.

    Ok, cool, so yeah, it had to be something broke in the S3 shell, I touched nothing in that shell that had to do anthing with the listing/searching of files and messages, only added some menu functions, etc. The shell itself would truncate file areas, and would also not show amounts of files in each area, etc. I'm much happier now with the way the default file list is that I will stick with the lightbar shell and default file/message listings.

    Thanks for the enlightenment, and maybe a notation should be made somewhere about the s3 shell, wish I really could produce more information about it, but as far as going in and creating debugging in the shell itself there is nothing I can do, I already have SBBS logging in full debug mode and it gave me no more info than "File does not exist" AFAIK the S3 shell is no longer distrubted with SBBS, but for people like me who like to goof around it may cause issues in the future.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Mon Jan 9 20:52:32 2017

    On 2017 Jan 09 12:59:06, you wrote to kk4qbn:

    BTW, Synchronet doesn't actually support filename searches (through
    the filebase) with multiple '*' wildcard chars and anything *after*
    the '*' (and before a '.') is ignored, so "*telix" should produce the
    same results as "*" (i.e. all files). This searching should and
    eventually will be replaced, but for now, it's a basic MS-DOS like wildcard match.

    sounds like a job for regex or boysian(??) searches? i can't remember the name of the second one i'm thinking of but it was really fast back in the day when it came out...

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