• Re: Buses (was: Re: Tippi

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Jun 30 20:14:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 06-28-18 05:31 <=-

    "Ladies and gentlemen, if I may tax your memories..." when one
    congress critter turned to the other and said "Why haven't we thought of
    that?"
    It's a joke, right... a joke... <G>

    Yeah, but its still good to not give them any ideas. LOL

    Indeed. My thought too... ;)

    They aren't what they used to be, having been taken over by pound
    stores (like our dollar stores), which are growing at a steady clip.
    Supposedly the same idea as the five-and-dime... but from what I've
    seen, not as nice really....

    Well, the old five and dimes offered things like lunch counters,
    which have pretty much disappeared over time.

    That, too...

    There's a drug store in a nearby town that several years ago
    brought back their soda fountain and counter service and do a booming business. They have been adding more tables over the years, along with
    a couple of booths. And they have waiters to take you order and bring
    it to you. The owners are smart, they are keeping it small, and the
    place is packed whenever I go there. You can get burgers and such,
    along with sundaes, etc or just a dish of ice cream. At the counter
    you can watch as banana splits are make, soft drinks with syrup and
    soda water added, etc. Just like the old days.

    We used to have such a drug store downtown, when the RIT campus was
    still downtown... long gone, now, of course... not even the building is
    still there....

    One time I ordered a banana split and watched as it was made then
    the soda jerk reached over and picked up a plastic bottle marked
    ketchup, another mustard, etc and put that on top. I starting thinking "who taught these guys to make banana splits, the three stooges?" (It
    was actually strawberry sauce, caramel, etc).

    Nice repurposing of the containers... ;) It is a handy size, etc, for
    any sort of sauce... ;)

    The whole place is like setting into the past. And none of this
    plastic furniture, the tables and chairs are wrought iron, the counter
    is the original marble from the 19th C, etc. Carved woodwork, etc.

    Very nice... :)

    Until 1800 they run on the hour, on the schedule. But are usually
    late since the routes are longish and if there's any problem along
    the way the bus is put behind.
    Ours is similar, although I think at peak times they are scheduled
    more often, maybe every half hour, or on the busier routes maybe
    every 15-20 minutes...

    The old bus company, which started with streetcars, ran buses every
    15 minutes. But of course in that day (up to the mid-late 60s) fewer people had cars and depended more on the bus.
    We were without any buses for a few years when the employees of that company went on strike and place closed.
    The business was re-organised and started up again in the late '70s.

    At least we didn't have that happen... it's been continuous...

    At one point ridership was down. The bus company board wanted to
    raise fares even more. The woman in charge at the time was very smart. She lowered fares, ridership zoomed and they made more money than
    before and have been gaining riders ever since. When the fares were reduced transfers disappeared, but hey, you can't have everything.
    She also offered day, week and monthly passes were for a certain
    price you ride as much as you wanted for a even lower cost.
    Those are still available but instead of a punch card its on a debit
    like card.

    I'm pretty sure our system has the passes still too... and they are
    probably a debit like card by now...

    About 80 per cent of the route is $1. To outlaying areas its $1.25.
    There is no way someone can drive, to say the mall, about 15 miles
    from downtown, round trip, for $2.50.

    Not bad...

    Is the bus on time?
    Yeah, within an hour or two.-a :)
    I trust it isn't quite that bad really.... ;)

    Nah, just a local joke.
    But there are times they are really late, due to traffic, accidents,
    etc. They have a free phone app where the buses can be monitored as
    to where they are.

    You just have to have a smartphone to use it... ;)

    I have one but have never figured out how to use it, other than the scheduled time of arrival.
    One day a woman showed me her phone. There was a map of that route
    with a little blinking light showing the bus in movement. She said "it should be here in eight minutes" and by golly it was.

    I've seen similar advertised on the bus stop shelters here...

    (Of course gas always goes up between Memorial and Labor Days.
    Always has, always will).
    And sometimes even fluctuates within those dates.... It IS, after
    all, while your services are less required.... just have to rent
    a car that's relatively easy on gas with good mileage... :)

    If I would make my grand tour it would probably be in September or
    even October. Be cooler then, fewer travelers, etc.

    True, and true.... You'd just have to let the bosses know you aren't
    available for work during that time... <G> After all, college will be
    back in full session by then.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to KEN ALBERT on Sat Jun 30 20:43:00 2018
    Quoting Ken Albert to Joe Mackey on 06-28-18 12:00 <=-

    You appear to be a new face in the echo... welcome... :)

    The whole place is like setting into the past. And none of this plastic furniture, the tables and chairs are wrought iron, the counter is the origin marble from the 19th C, etc. Carved woodwork, etc.

    I would love to see more of these places start back up. I think if
    they just include wifi access, they should do okay.

    That's getting pretty standard now... Although, part of the charm of
    the old-timey drugstore is the retreat into the past... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Jul 2 06:17:58 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    We used to have such a drug store downtown, when the RIT campus was
    still downtown... long gone, now, of course...

    At one time any drug store worth its salt had a soda fountain along with a grill for sandwiches, etc.
    Sometimes those brought in more revenue than the pharmacist did.
    There was a time drug stores sold all sorts of things not medical related: food, magazine, pop, small tools, small household items, etc.
    I was listening to a radio show from the '40s (forget what show) and this guys had opened a drug store and and being interviewed on opening day was talking about everything he was selling, including automobile tyres. The radio
    interviewer asked where the drug counter and medicines were. There was a pause
    and the drug store owner said, "I knew there was something I was forgetting". :)

    JM>> "who taught these guys to make banana splits, the three stooges?"

    Nice repurposing of the containers... ;) It is a handy size, etc, for
    any sort of sauce... ;)

    I do that a lot at home.
    I'll have a plastic container from whipped creme which is used for any number
    of other things. The same with other things like a two litre pop bottle for juice, etc.
    Every few years buy another two litre of pop to replace the worn out bottle, etc.

    JM>> The business was re-organised and started up again in the late '70s.

    At least we didn't have that happen... it's been continuous...

    Huntington had one of the first electric streetcar lines in the country, in the 1880s.
    In the '20s they added buses then in 1937 the streetcars were removed and only bus service.
    There are a few streets here and there where the old rails are still visible.

    They have a free phone app where the buses can be monitored

    You just have to have a smartphone to use it... ;)

    And unless I'm working, my phone lays on a table.
    I very seldom every carry it with me.
    Even at work its seldom used, but handy to have "just in case".

    JM>> If I would make my grand tour it would probably be in September or
    JM>> even October. Be cooler then, fewer travelers, etc.

    True, and true.... You'd just have to let the bosses know you aren't available for work during that time... <G> After all, college will be back in full session by then.... :)

    And being retired there isn't a lot they can say about the matter.
    Watta they gonna do, fire me? :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Jul 2 18:39:00 2018
    Joe,


    And being retired there isn't a lot they can say about the matter.
    Watta they gonna do, fire me? :)

    That's the way I feel on the ham radio nets that I run. I've had some complain, and when I ask them if they want to run it, they immediately backpedal. Everyone wants the glory, but no one wants the gall of the
    work.

    With ham radio, we are prohibited by Federal Law for receiving any
    money or compensation for our services (with very few exceptions)...we
    do it "out of the goodness of our hearts". Sort of like Sysoping a
    BBS...it's a labor of love.

    And, so many think that events of all sorts "magically happen by
    themselves". I prefer to work behind the scenes myself...no matter what
    the hobby or activity.

    Several years ago, when my elderly Mom and I attended the Clive
    Cussler Collectors Society Convention...the president at the time, the
    late Wayne Valero, along with Bruce Canfield, got cards of appreciation.
    Wayne preferred to be "out in front", while Bruce preferred to work
    behind the scenes. When Wayne noted "Bruce's card is bigger", some
    smart-aleck yelled out "Size Does Matter!!"...it brought the house
    down!! <G>

    Incidentally, Clive Cussler is an adventure writer, with a
    worldwide following, and several of his books have made the New York
    Times Best Seller list. Sadly, Wayne passed away a few years ago from a
    rare brain disease...he was only 58...he is sorely missed. :(

    My late wife, Janice, was a bookworm...but I never was one.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ED VANCE on Mon Jul 2 16:33:00 2018
    Quoting Ed Vance to Joe Mackey on 06-28-18 23:30 <=-

    When I went to High School there was a Drugs Store a few blocks away
    that made their Fountain Coca-Cola Soft Drink with Syrup that was in a large glass bottle with a plastic dispenser attached to it.
    The bottle was inverted with the dispenser on the bottom so the person making the softdrink just pressed a big button to put some syrup in a paper cup.
    They filled the cup with soda water (CO2 Fizz Water) and gave it
    to the customer.
    I can't remember if the dispenser button was pressed once or twice to
    make the soda.

    They set it up so that you'd see what actually was happening inside the
    soda machine... :)

    I thought that I already seen everything about how a Fountain soft
    drink was made until I walked in that Drug Store when I was 14 years
    old. DUH

    They were just more obvious about how it was done.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 3 05:47:57 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Everyone wants the glory, but no one wants the gall of the
    work.

    Sort of like being a moderator. <g,d,r>

    And, so many think that events of all sorts "magically happen by themselves".

    Ain't that the truth!

    I prefer to work behind the scenes myself...no matter what
    the hobby or activity.

    Same here, through I prefer to think of it as being out of target range. :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jul 3 17:02:00 2018
    Joe,

    Everyone wants the glory, but no one wants the gall of the
    work.

    Sort of like being a moderator. <g,d,r>

    Or a ham radio net control station. I was tempted to use a variant,
    but this is a family echo, and with a female among us, I thought it
    better to behave myself. ;)

    -a And, so many think that events of all sorts "magically happen by themselves".

    Ain't that the truth!

    It reminds me of a bulletin (a combination of several bulletins, actually)...basically entitled "You Want To Be A Sysop??". Back in the
    dial-up days (not sure how much in the days of telnet/web), most users
    had no clue on what it was like on THIS SIDE of the data
    connection...believing things with the BBS (setup, maintenance, etc.)
    are like "manna from Heaven"...although to them, the meaning is the
    same ("What Is It??"). :P

    I prefer to work behind the scenes myself...no matter what
    the hobby or activity.

    Same here, through I prefer to think of it as being out of target range.

    Now, neither myself nor Nancy Backus would even think of throwing
    things at you. Besides, if you didn't have me for "comedy relief" (never
    mind the Burma Shave ads (I miss the nostalgia of them)), the echo would
    be pretty boring...if I do say so myself. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jul 4 07:02:26 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    I prefer to work behind the scenes myself...no matter what
    the hobby or activity.

    Same here, through I prefer to think of it as being out of target
    range.

    Now, neither myself nor Nancy Backus would even think of throwing things at you.

    No problems here. :)
    I was talking about life in general.
    There are times I have been in charge of things and mostly enjoyed being "the
    boss" but other times I preferred being behind the scenes.
    Joe


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Jul 4 16:25:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 07-02-18 06:17 <=-

    We used to have such a drug store downtown, when the RIT campus was
    still downtown... long gone, now, of course...

    At one time any drug store worth its salt had a soda fountain along
    with a grill for sandwiches, etc.
    Sometimes those brought in more revenue than the pharmacist did.
    There was a time drug stores sold all sorts of things not medical
    related: food, magazine, pop, small tools, small household items, etc.

    How forward looking... ;)

    I was listening to a radio show from the '40s (forget what show) and
    this guys had opened a drug store and and being interviewed on opening
    day was talking about everything he was selling, including automobile tyres. The radio interviewer asked where the drug counter and
    medicines were. There was a pause and the drug store owner said, "I
    knew there was something I was forgetting". :)

    Oops.... :)

    "who taught these guys to make banana splits, the three stooges?"
    Nice repurposing of the containers... ;) It is a handy size, etc,
    for any sort of sauce... ;)

    I do that a lot at home.
    I'll have a plastic container from whipped creme which is used for
    any number of other things. The same with other things like a two
    litre pop bottle for juice, etc.
    Every few years buy another two litre of pop to replace the worn out bottle, etc.

    That works, I suppose... ;) Our friend who has a sushi restaurant
    uses the ketchup and mustard containers for spicy sauce and unagi
    sauce... :)

    The business was re-organised and started up again in the late '70s.
    At least we didn't have that happen... it's been continuous...

    Huntington had one of the first electric streetcar lines in the
    country, in the 1880s.
    In the '20s they added buses then in 1937 the streetcars were
    removed and only bus service.
    There are a few streets here and there where the old rails are still visible.

    We had streetcar lines, too... most of the old rails have been either
    taken up or paved over... When they were doing a major rehaul on a
    major street our street crosses, you could see the old rails where
    they'd removed all the upper layers of the road... History was
    uncovered... ;)

    They have a free phone app where the buses can be monitored
    You just have to have a smartphone to use it... ;)

    And unless I'm working, my phone lays on a table.
    I very seldom ever carry it with me.
    Even at work its seldom used, but handy to have "just in case".

    If you get into going places by bus, it might be handy just in case
    too... ;)

    If I would make my grand tour it would probably be in September or
    even October. Be cooler then, fewer travelers, etc.
    True, and true.... You'd just have to let the bosses know you aren't
    available for work during that time... <G> After all, college will
    be back in full session by then.... :)

    And being retired there isn't a lot they can say about the matter.
    Watta they gonna do, fire me? :)

    There is that... ;) Might not think of you first to fill in... not that
    that's such a bad thing either... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Jul 4 19:12:00 2018
    07-02-18 16:33 NANCY BACKUS wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Buses (was: Re: Tippi Howdy! Nancy,

    @MSGID: <5B3B494B.20364.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Quoting Ed Vance to Joe Mackey on 06-28-18 23:30 <=-

    When I went to High School there was a Drugs Store a few blocks away
    that made their Fountain Coca-Cola Soft Drink with Syrup that was in a large glass bottle with a plastic dispenser attached to it.
    The bottle was inverted with the dispenser on the bottom so the person making the softdrink just pressed a big button to put some syrup in a paper cup.
    They filled the cup with soda water (CO2 Fizz Water) and gave it
    to the customer.
    I can't remember if the dispenser button was pressed once or twice to
    make the soda.

    They set it up so that you'd see what actually was happening inside the soda machine... :)

    I thought that I already seen everything about how a Fountain soft
    drink was made until I walked in that Drug Store when I was 14 years
    old. DUH

    They were just more obvious about how it was done.... :)

    The Pharmacist was an older Man, it may be that He purchased the Soda
    Syrup Dispenser at His Drugs Store long before the Soda Fountain Dispensers with Chrome Levers were manufactured. ???

    BTW, the Dispenser attached to the Coca-Cola Bottle was made of Plastic and
    had a Big Red Button, it probably was made by Coca-Cola Corp.

    Coca-Cola has a Museum in Elizabethtown, Kentucky about 40 Miles from where
    I live.
    They probably are on the internet (everybody else is) and they probably have
    a photo of the Dispenser that I am talking about.


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Ed Vance on Fri Jul 6 06:47:08 2018
    Ed wrote --

    Coca-Cola has a Museum in Elizabethtown, Kentucky

    They did, till 2011 when it closed and everything sold off.
    http://www.wdrb.com/story/14518255/e-town-coca-cola-museum-closing
    Joe


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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to joe mackey on Fri Jul 6 23:07:00 2018
    07-06-18 06:47 joe mackey wrote to Ed Vance about Buses
    Thanks Joe,

    @MSGID: <5B3F8470.20388.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Ed wrote --

    Coca-Cola has a Museum in Elizabethtown, Kentucky

    They did, till 2011 when it closed and everything sold off.
    http://www.wdrb.com/story/14518255/e-town-coca-cola-museum-closing

    WDRB is a Louisville, Kentucky TV Station that I can get on my TV set.

    Thanks for letting me know the Museum is closed.

    Just proves that I'm not Mister Know-It-All.


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ED VANCE on Sun Jul 8 12:07:00 2018
    Ed,

    Just proves that I'm not Mister Know-It-All.

    That title belongs to Bullwinkle J. Moose. <G>

    Daryl

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