• Taxes Was: Senior Discoun

    From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Sun Jun 10 10:13:00 2018
    Nancy,

    Sometimes the tax just gets built into the "advertised" price... NB>especially at fast food places... :)

    Now, many of the fancy restaurants are automatically adding in a tip
    tax (18%), before you get served...no matter whether your
    waiter/waitress was efficient or not. I've made it a point to visit
    those type of places only ONCE.

    I've seen that sort of tax added to hotel bills various places...

    Wherever they can nickel and dime the folks, they'll do it. They
    figure if you can afford to take the vacation, you can afford the extra
    fees.

    Well, of course... paying taxes is more important than just about NB>anything else, it would seem.... ;0

    Wasn't the income tax declared unconstitutional at one time??

    Here, the state doesn't charge tax on clothing, but the counties do... NB>there's often a week or two county-tax-free for back to school... :)
    The tax-free also applies to fabric that one would use to make said NB>clothes, too... :)

    Interesting.

    Daryl

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jun 10 23:12:06 2018
    Re: Taxes Was: Senior Discoun
    By: Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on Sun Jun 10 2018 10:13 am

    Now, many of the fancy restaurants are automatically adding in a tip
    tax (18%), before you get served...no matter whether your
    waiter/waitress was efficient or not. I've made it a point to visit
    those type of places only ONCE.

    18%? I might just cut short my first vist.

    Some hotels & restaurants around Niagra Falls were charging what they called a tax. Turns out it was a thing you could opt out of simply by telling your server you didn't want it.

    After this went on for some time and grumbling by those taxed it wasn't a tax at all. It was a thing the local tourist trade came up with. I dunno where these taxes went, but the gummint didn't collect it.

    I'd have a closer look at the legitamacy of that tip tax.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ALAN IANSON on Mon Jun 11 12:39:00 2018
    Alan,

    I'd have a closer look at the legitamacy of that tip tax.

    Apparently, folks weren't tipping the servers (who got paid next to
    nothing anyway). But, to me, if the server does good work, they deserve
    it. I don't care for the idea of all tips going into a community pot.
    Then, those who busted their butts off in their job get the same as
    the slackers.

    Daryl

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 11 12:02:45 2018
    Re: Taxes Was: Senior Discoun
    By: Daryl Stout to ALAN IANSON on Mon Jun 11 2018 12:39 pm

    Apparently, folks weren't tipping the servers (who got paid next to nothing anyway).

    A tip is generaly given without claim or demand. I usually tip 10-15%.

    The 18% you were talking about sounded like a demand. That's a non starter, I would find somewhere else to eat.

    I think that servers should be paid a descent wage to begin with but that isn't always the case.

    I don't care for the idea of all tips going into a community pot.
    Then, those who busted their butts off in their job get the same as
    the slackers.

    I was a dishwasher at one time and was given about $15 a week in tips from the pot, apparently. I didn't work there very long.

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Jun 12 06:11:54 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    DS>> Convention), they didn't have sales tax on the food. What you ordered
    DS>> at a restaurant (i.e. Burger King) was what you paid.

    Sometimes the tax just gets built into the "advertised" price... especially at fast food places... :)

    They do that in Europe, the tax is built into the price of the object be it food, clothing, etc.

    DS>> I think the "hamburger tax" in the Little Rock area is now around 12
    DS>> cents on the dollar. It's a combination of city, county, and state
    DS>> sales tax...plus a fund for the area Convention and Visitors Bureau.

    I've seen that sort of tax added to hotel bills various places...

    In WV only the state can tax most things. (The county can tax real estate and some personal property (cars, etc).
    Huntington has a users fee tax of $5 a week on income earned in the city. (Regardless of the amount earned. One could make $1-one million for that matter and "taxed" $5.) The money is supposed to be used for public services (streets, police/fire, etc) but most of it seems to disappear down a rat hole.
    Its not really fair since someone with high income pays the same as someone working part time minimum wage, and vice versa.
    The fee was started years ago when the state wouldn't allow city taxes but nothing on the books about a fee.
    A lot of people here live across the river in Ohio which has lower and some times nonexistent taxes and fees that WV charges.
    Of course we have the hotel tax, which has been longer than anyone can remember, which is generally hidden in the charges somewhere visitors don't know how much they are paying.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 12 06:30:17 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Now, many of the fancy restaurants are automatically adding in a tip tax (18%), before you get served

    And the wait staff are charged taxes on those tips.
    If I tip I prefer to just slip the waiter/waitress the cash which isn't declared.
    When I drove a cab in the late '70s the state wanted to tax whatever tips we got and we were supposed to declare how much we got on a shift. Oddly enough no
    one made any tips to declare. :)

    Well, of course... paying taxes is more important than just about
    anything else, it would seem.... ;0

    Wasn't the income tax declared unconstitutional at one time??

    There were attempts at taxing income over the years but it wasn't until 1913 it took effect. And then it was it was to be only over a certain income, which
    the average person didn't make. It was to start at something like million dollars, when a million dollars was real money.
    In the early and mid '30s income tax was extended to everyone, not just the super wealthy.
    (I am reminded of the time Sen. Everette Dirksen was talking about taxes and a billion was a huge sum. He said "A billion here and billion there and pretty
    soon you are talking about real money".)

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    One summer day we had a powerful thunderstorm roll through with the usual street flooding downtown and the surrounding area, out into the country. But, it didn't rain at the airport.
    On the evening news after reports and film of this and that flooded street, etc the weatherman, with a straight face, said it hadn't rained at the airport so officially there was no rain that day.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Alan Ianson on Tue Jun 12 06:34:14 2018
    Alan Ianson wrote --

    Some hotels & restaurants around Niagra Falls were charging what they called a tax.

    I visited the Falls in the summer of '84, but stayed over night, on my way to
    Syracuse, in Lewiston. Don't think I spent any money on the American side, though I did on the Canadian (boat ride, etc).
    Don't recognise the name. If you're new welcome, glad to have you with us.
    Joe Mackey, Mod
    Huntington, WV


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 12 06:40:51 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Apparently, folks weren't tipping the servers (who got paid next to nothing anyway). But, to me, if the server does good work, they deserve it. I don't care for the idea of all tips going into a community pot. Then, those who busted their butts off in their job get the same as
    the slackers.

    I watched a video recently on tipping that said young, good looking, blondes made the most tips. Esp those who made eyes and smiled at the male customers at lot. (A lot of that is just part of the act, not that they are interested in
    the customer per se).
    Also that those who do the hot dirty work in the kitchen aren't tipped and those are the ones who do all the hard work.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jun 12 18:27:00 2018
    Joe,

    And the wait staff are charged taxes on those tips.

    Wow.

    Speaking of taxes, one local Burger King franchise got into big
    trouble with the state of Arkansas, as they were letting the managers
    get their meals at wholesale cost...the chain had to pay a whopper
    amount of back taxes...no pun intended.

    -a Wasn't the income tax declared unconstitutional at one time??

    In the early and mid '30s income tax was extended to everyone, not just th
    super wealthy.

    I couldn't remember the details on that...been so long since I looked
    at history. But, at least I'm not like "Johnny" who asked "Why should I
    study about The American Revolution?? I know who won"!! <G>

    On the evening news after reports and film of this and that flooded street
    etc the weatherman, with a straight face, said it hadn't rained at the airpo JM>so officially there was no rain that day.

    I had a similar deal when I was living at my parents house...I got 2
    inches of rain in 20 minutes, and called in the report, which prompted a
    Flash Flood Warning for the area. But, neither the Little Rock National
    Airport or the National Weather Service in North Little Rock got any
    rain from it...so, like you said, it was "no rain fell that day". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Jun 12 18:28:00 2018
    Joe,

    Also that those who do the hot dirty work in the kitchen aren't tipped and
    those are the ones who do all the hard work.

    Been there, done that...with working in the restaurant business for 7
    years, and in silkscreen printing for 18.

    Daryl

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to joe mackey on Wed Jun 13 02:19:49 2018
    Re: Taxes Was: Senior Discoun
    By: joe mackey to Alan Ianson on Tue Jun 12 2018 06:34 am

    I visited the Falls in the summer of '84, but stayed over night, on my way to Syracuse, in Lewiston. Don't think I spent any money on the American side, though I did on the Canadian (boat ride, etc).

    Sounds nice. I have never been any futher east than Alberta myself. Maybe one day.

    Don't recognise the name. If you're new welcome, glad to have you with us.

    I lurk mostly.. ;)

    Ttyl :-),
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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jun 13 06:51:23 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    And the wait staff are charged taxes on those tips.

    Wow.

    Yep, its considered "income".
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Alan Ianson on Wed Jun 13 06:53:10 2018
    Alan wrote --

    JM>> Don't recognise the name. If you're new welcome, glad to have you
    with us.

    I lurk mostly.. ;)

    Lurk away. :)
    We all always enjoy new people.
    Jump in any time you like.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jun 13 06:59:49 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    I couldn't remember the details on that...been so long since I looked at history. But, at least I'm not like "Johnny" who asked "Why should I study about The American Revolution?? I know who won"!! <G>

    There are videos on You Tube (probably other places as well) of college students asked questions about things they should know and most have no idea.
    One question a while ago was who were the Axis and the Allies in WWII.
    Most had absolutely no idea.
    Sheesh, its not some question about some obscure event hundreds of years ago,
    in an attempt to bring it back to the past and stay on topic. Like its ever stopped us before. :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Jun 14 14:12:00 2018
    Joe,

    There are videos on You Tube (probably other places as well) of college
    students asked questions about things they should know and most have no idea
    One question a while ago was who were the Axis and the Allies in WWII.
    Most had absolutely no idea.
    Sheesh, its not some question about some obscure event hundreds of years a
    in an attempt to bring it back to the past and stay on topic. Like its ever JM>stopped us before. :)

    To them, MEMORIES is NOT. :P All they live for is the present...and
    don't even care how we got here.

    Now, being elderly, with an illness, is one thing...but these are
    supposedly young adults. In short, we're doomed.

    Daryl
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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 15 05:39:08 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    students asked questions about things they should know and most have
    no idea

    To them, MEMORIES is NOT. :P All they live for is the present...and don't even care how we got here.

    To most people anything that happened before they were born isn't worth knowing.
    And sometimes history is presented in such a dry, dull, boring fashion with just names and dates to be remembered for a test then quickly forgotten.
    I say, if we don't remember the past our future is in peril.
    Santana, I think, the writer (not the singer) said if we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it, or words to that effect.
    Sheesh, there are many kids today who don't know who their grandparents were,
    what they did, where they came from, etc.
    Joe (armchair historian in residence)


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Jun 16 08:46:00 2018
    Joe,

    To most people anything that happened before they were born isn't worth
    knowing.

    They have no desire to know "how we got where we are".

    And sometimes history is presented in such a dry, dull, boring fashion wit
    just names and dates to be remembered for a test then quickly forgotten.

    I'm no history major...but at least I can remember the names of the presidents from 90 years ago to the present. Most people don't even know
    the name of the current one.

    That happened to my elderly Mom the other day...she's back in the
    hospital, with numerous health issues (I'll spare you the gory details).
    But, when she couldn't remember the name of the current president...to
    me, that was "a red flag". When I mentioned this to a nurse (who
    obviously didn't care for Trump), I told her "I don't care who the
    president is. If the person doesn't know that answer, that's a red
    flag". She had to give me credit for that one. ;)

    I say, if we don't remember the past our future is in peril.

    Or with things like profanity filled rap music, as my late wife,
    Janice, noted..."if that's music, we're doomed".

    Santana, I think, the writer (not the singer) said if we forget our histor
    we are doomed to repeat it, or words to that effect.

    Or "history repeats itself, because nobody listens".

    Sheesh, there are many kids today who don't know who their grandparents we
    what they did, where they came from, etc.

    I saw a picture on Facebook, where this young baby was asking his Dad
    how he was born. When his Dad showed him the picture on the smartphone,
    the baby got a horrified expression on his face!! :P

    Joe (armchair historian in residence)

    Shouldn't that be Professor Doctor Joe Mackey, Esquire?? <G>

    (that should put me on good terms with the moderator <BG>).

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Jun 16 14:24:00 2018
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Joe Mackey on 06-14-18 14:17 <=-

    There are videos on You Tube (probably other places as well) of college
    students asked questions about things they should know and most have no
    idea. One question a while ago was who were the Axis and the Allies in
    WWII. Most had absolutely no idea.
    Sheesh, its not some question about some obscure event hundreds of years
    in an attempt to bring it back to the past and stay on topic. Like its
    ever stopped us before. :)

    To them, MEMORIES is NOT. :P All they live for is the present...and
    don't even care how we got here.

    Sometimes it just doesn't seem to have any connection to them... when
    they see a connection, it's more likely to make sense why they should
    know and care...

    Now, being elderly, with an illness, is one thing...

    Indeed... forgetting what one once knew is different from not having
    known....

    but these are supposedly young adults. In short, we're doomed.

    There's some that still learn... so we may be ok after all...

    ttyl neb

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 18 08:21:13 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    I'm no history major...but at least I can remember the names of the presidents from 90 years ago to the present. Most people don't even know the name of the current one.

    One day I in a dollar store upon check out each customer was told if they could give the name of a president during a certain time frame they got a dollar off their purchase price.
    I told them to go ahead.
    Who was president in 1880?
    Without hesitation I replied James Garfield.
    The clerk had to look it up and said in amazement "that's right! How did you
    know that?" I said because he the second president to be assassinated, in 1881."
    Others in line said they had no idea who it was, or who Garfield was.

    I say, if we don't remember the past our future is in peril.

    Or with things like profanity filled rap music, as my late wife, Janice, noted..."if that's music, we're doomed".

    And people wonder why there's such a lack of respect all around.

    Joe (armchair historian in residence)

    Shouldn't that be Professor Doctor Joe Mackey, Esquire?? <G>

    Herr Professor will be accepted.

    (that should put me on good terms with the moderator <BG>).

    Don't bet on it buster! :)
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Jun 18 08:55:54 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    DS>> but these are supposedly young adults. In short, we're doomed.

    There's some that still learn... so we may be ok after all...

    There seem to be fewer of them every year. ==sigh==
    I look at young kids today, covered in tats and piercings, and wonder what sort of job, if any, they will ever have.
    I doubt they think those tats, etc will have a negative effect on their getting a job, dealing with the public in someway at least. Maybe somewhere over a FF grill or a call centre...
    I know I wouldn't want to deal with someone who thinks they are a Maori chieftain at a bank, department store, etc.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Jun 18 18:24:00 2018
    Joe,

    One day I in a dollar store upon check out each customer was told if they
    could give the name of a president during a certain time frame they got a JM>dollar off their purchase price.
    I told them to go ahead.
    Who was president in 1880?
    Without hesitation I replied James Garfield.
    The clerk had to look it up and said in amazement "that's right! How did
    know that?" I said because he the second president to be assassinated, in JM>1881."

    Good for you. :) You should have gotten more than a dollar off. :)

    Others in line said they had no idea who it was, or who Garfield was.

    I'm surprised they didn't say a cat who loved lasagna. <G>

    And people wonder why there's such a lack of respect all around.

    Isn't that the truth??

    -a-a Joe (armchair historian in residence)

    -a Shouldn't that be Professor Doctor Joe Mackey, Esquire?? <G>

    Herr Professor will be accepted.

    Yah Voul. <G>

    -a (that should put me on good terms with the moderator <BG>).

    Don't bet on it buster! :)

    I'd worry about a feed cut...but who would you have for comedy relief
    if I left the echo??

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sun Jun 24 22:08:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 06-18-18 08:55 <=-

    but these are supposedly young adults. In short, we're doomed.
    There's some that still learn... so we may be ok after all...

    There seem to be fewer of them every year. ==sigh==

    You are sounding like an old fart... (G)

    I look at young kids today, covered in tats and piercings, and
    wonder what sort of job, if any, they will ever have.
    I doubt they think those tats, etc will have a negative effect on
    their getting a job, dealing with the public in someway at least.
    Maybe somewhere over a FF grill or a call centre...
    I know I wouldn't want to deal with someone who thinks they are a
    Maori chieftain at a bank, department store, etc.

    Actually, now that tats and piercings are becoming ever more common, it
    really is less of a handicap than it used to be... some jobs require the jewelry to be taken out while on the job, but the tattoos don't seem to
    be a problem any more... most of them can be covered while on the job...
    maybe a facial tattoo might make a problem, though...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Jun 25 08:57:00 2018
    Nancy,

    but these are supposedly young adults. In short, we're doomed.
    There's some that still learn... so we may be ok after all...

    There seem to be fewer of them every year. ==sigh==

    You are sounding like an old fart... (G)

    Now, I'm sure our esteemed moderator worked hard for that title. <G>

    Actually, now that tats and piercings are becoming ever more common, it NB>really is less of a handicap than it used to be... some jobs require the NB>jewelry to be taken out while on the job, but the tattoos don't seem to NB>be a problem any more... most of them can be covered while on the job... NB>maybe a facial tattoo might make a problem, though...

    I've got better things to spend my money on, thank you.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Jun 25 11:08:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to on 06-21-18 07:33 <=-
    Nancy wrote --

    had one history teacher that made history seem deadly... and then
    another one that showed us that history was the current events of yesterday... and connected to the current events of today.... ;)

    Good point. It's how material is presented that makes it
    interesting or not. One could have someone who knows all about X but
    if its presented in a dry, dusty, dull manner listeners will tune them out. Just presenting a series of facts, dates, etc and learn by rote doesn't work.

    The one that made it deadly sat on a stool at the front of the room,
    reading the textbook to us.... it couldn't have been more dry, dusty or
    dull... Fortunately for us, she had to leave mid-year to have a baby...
    and the substitute that came in was the one that made history live for
    us... :)

    And I realise everyone has different interests. Some are interested
    in history, others in math, some in science, etc. But to have a well rounded education they should know a little bit about a lot of stuff.
    Then if they want to learn more they can really learn about what
    interests them. A good teacher will say something like "You need to know
    X so you understand Y", not "you need to know this for the next test".

    Or even better, show how interesting it can be... Teaching to the test
    is not only deadly, it's mostly useless...

    When I was in jr/sr high I had to take algebra but I don't remember if
    I were told why. At the time I figured I would never need it but there have been times I've had to figure out X,Y and Z for some problem. But, somewhere deep in the recesses of my mind what I was told would ever
    so slowly crawl forward to help with whatever I was doing at the time.

    Yup, algebra is about the relationship of numbers in real-life
    problems... :)

    What really made history come alive for me, though, was realizing that
    some of the major and the not-so-major personages were related to me...
    and they lived through those events...

    Exactly.
    Then talking with family, friends, etc who lived through those days
    or whose grandparents, etc did.

    That too... for things more close in time to us....

    Sheesh, there are many kids today who don't know who their
    grandparents were, what they did, where they came from, etc.
    And that is just plain a shame... I was fortunate to grow up in a family that enjoyed the family stories of years gone by... and recounted them often... Both sides of my family had researched some of the genealogy,
    that I was able to tap into once my interest was aroused... I was also fortunate to know all my grandparents, and some of my great-grands...

    While my parents never dwelt on the past, I was aware of who I was,
    where I came from, etc.

    I wouldn't say that my parents (or grandparents) dwelt on the past...
    but they did make sure we knew something of the family that came
    before.... the previous research came out once I was starting to get
    into the research myself...

    I know little or nothing about what my family did (both sides) when
    still in Europe. I know my mothers side came from England in the
    1660s, and my mother always bragged they were one of the first families
    of Virginia (FFV) and I would joke they were probably indentured
    servants, which she didn't care to hear. (Maybe I hit a little too
    close for comfort). But I have no idea what they did in England.

    I'd guess that you both were probably right... there was of course intermarriage along the way between the families descended from the
    younger sons of nobility who came to seek their fortunes and from those
    that came over as indentured servants... especially when you're talking
    that far back... :) Keep in mind that for those indentured ones, it was usually short-term, and often just a means to an end, to get to the new country...

    I've got early settlers from England as well, both in VA and in New
    England... that far back, it can be hard to find out what they did in
    England anyway... but some were most likely farmers and/or merchant
    class... I do have a couple of FFV as well... :) Those tend to be
    better documented...

    My fathers side came from Scotland in 1756 and their moving west from Philadelphia landing finally in WV (when VA) in the 1830s, having a
    lumber business with a saw mill, etc. What did they do in Scotland?
    No clue.

    I have Scots on both of my father's lines... his father's Scots came
    just before the Rev War into Central PA, and stayed there...
    grandmother's Scots came to NC just before the Civil War and ended up in Norfolk VA afterwards... I've done a little research on them back in Scotland... Granddad's were probably tenant farmers in Perthshire.... Grandmother's great-grandfather was a bookseller in Haddington... Her great-uncle, who also came to the States, was a doctor.... her
    grandfather was a seed merchant.... :)

    I was born late. My patrimonial grandfather died when I was
    very young and only met him once, when a baby (he lived far away) and don't recall any of that. My mothers father died when I was three and
    only memory of him is his sitting in the old family living room smoking
    a pipe. (Grandmothers on both side were gone when I was born).

    At least you have the memories of the one grandfather... :) You can't
    help when you were born.... ;) You might find it fun and instructive to
    start actually researching your family... start with you and go back...
    you might find out enough to make your grandparents live for you... and
    connect back to those early settlers... maybe even prove your theories
    right... <G> There's a lot more available nowadays on the internet, even
    of good solid fact... :) Do you have any half-siblings alive that might
    have memories to share of your grandparents...?

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Wed Jun 27 19:21:00 2018
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 06-25-18 09:02 <=-

    but these are supposedly young adults. In short, we're doomed.
    There's some that still learn... so we may be ok after all...
    There seem to be fewer of them every year. ==sigh==
    You are sounding like an old fart... (G)

    Now, I'm sure our esteemed moderator worked hard for that title. <G>

    I think he prefers fogie, though... ;)

    Actually, now that tats and piercings are becoming ever more common,
    it really is less of a handicap than it used to be... some jobs
    require the jewelry to be taken out while on the job, but the tattoos
    don't seem to be a problem any more... most of them can be covered
    while on the job... maybe a facial tattoo might make a problem, though...

    I've got better things to spend my money on, thank you.

    As do I... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri Nov 29 05:52:54 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    An example of the smaller places that I was particularly thinking about
    was a small restaurant

    Restaurants usually operate on a shoe string, unless some big chain.
    When I was in the produce business I saw many, many places come and go.
    And it didn't matter if some small hole-in-the-wall or some fancy place.
    Running a restaurant is for the love of it, not to make a lot of money.
    Joe
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Dec 3 17:12:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 11-29-19 05:52 <=-

    An example of the smaller places that I was particularly thinking about
    was a small restaurant

    Restaurants usually operate on a shoe string, unless some big chain.
    When I was in the produce business I saw many, many places come and
    go. And it didn't matter if some small hole-in-the-wall or some
    fancy place. Running a restaurant is for the love of it, not to make
    a lot of money.

    Exactly.... and one does have to be somewhat savvy to make a go of it,
    along with providing good food and service... We regularly eat at a
    number of those small restaurants... doing our little part to keep them afloat... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Birthdays are nature's way of telling us to eat more cake. - Anonymous

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Dec 4 06:15:50 2019
    Nancy wrote --

    Exactly.... and one does have to be somewhat savvy to make a go of it,
    along with providing good food and service... We regularly eat at a
    number of those small restaurants... doing our little part to keep them afloat... :)

    I much prefer locally owned places over chains.
    Too often a chain will come in and wipe out the mom-and-pop places.
    Joe
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  • From E Sullens@1:135/369 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Dec 5 19:29:03 2019
    I much prefer locally owned places over chains.
    Too often a chain will come in and wipe out the mom-and-pop places.
    Joe

    Very much agreed!
    Break the chains!

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to E SULLENS on Fri Dec 6 07:38:14 2019
    E wrote --

    Very much agreed!
    Break the chains!

    I think food in mom-and-pop tastes better than anything from a chain.
    Don't recognise you E, welcome to Memories.
    Joe Mackey
    Moderator
    Huntington, WV




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  • From Will Milberger@1:106/101 to E Sullens on Fri Dec 6 10:56:21 2019
    Re: Taxes
    By: E Sullens to JOE MACKEY on Thu Dec 05 2019 07:29 pm

    I much prefer locally owned places over chains.
    Too often a chain will come in and wipe out the mom-and-pop places.

    This is true in almost everything. I'm an independent auto parts store owner. Competition is fierce.

    Grease
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  • From Richard Miles@1:3634/24 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Dec 6 21:14:59 2019
    On 06 Dec 2019, JOE MACKEY said the following...

    I think food in mom-and-pop tastes better than anything from a chain.
    Don't recognise you E, welcome to Memories.

    Sometimes worse because of the quality of the product. Then again, I'm
    biased. Been managing Waffle Houses for 33 years.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Dec 9 17:19:00 2019
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 12-04-19 06:15 <=-

    Exactly.... and one does have to be somewhat savvy to make a go of it, along with providing good food and service... We regularly eat at a
    number of those small restaurants... doing our little part to keep them afloat... :)

    I much prefer locally owned places over chains.
    Too often a chain will come in and wipe out the mom-and-pop places.

    When it comes to restaurants, we mostly just ignore the chains... plenty
    of good local places to go, generally for less cost, or at least not
    more expensive, and much better food... :) I suppose some types of restaurants might need to establish themselves, like a local pizza place
    or such, to be able to compete with the chains, but again, they are
    likely better food, so even so would stand a chance....

    ttyl neb

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