• Hard labour (was: Re: Cars in the city)

    From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Fri Feb 16 07:37:36 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    So far this extended trip is all a dream. I got to get my company to realise I'm retired.

    You've got to be joking. :P

    The security company I work for has been having problems with prospects being
    able to pass a drug test. Not the hard stuff, but "just" weed.

    they'd have to find some other flunkey to do the "dirty jobs that no one
    else would do, or wanted".

    Luckily being a ranking officer (lieutenant) I don't generally get stuck with
    dirty jobs any longer. And being retired I can refuse and nothing can be done about it.

    My weekend job is really a piece of cake.
    I'm inside, in a locked building and people with access have cards to come and go. I'm just there in case an alarm goes off or something.
    I take my laptop, use my wifi account, and do things there (and getting paid for it) that I would normally be doing at home. :)

    Joe (but I do like the extra money)

    Aha!! The ulterior motive is revealed!! <g,d,r>

    Well, that does help. :)
    And that money generally goes right into the bank. :)
    Joe


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Feb 17 06:42:00 2018
    The security company I work for has been having problems with prospects being >able to pass a drug test. Not the hard stuff, but "just" weed.

    We have similar issues in this area of the USA, too. Lots of prospects
    either do not pass drug tests or, if they happen to, they decide after a
    few days/weeks that "this is not what I thought it would be" or they just
    stop showing up.

    Some young people just don't seem to want jobs these days.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Feb 17 17:31:00 2018
    Joe,

    The security company I work for has been having problems with prospects be
    able to pass a drug test. Not the hard stuff, but "just" weed.

    When I had to have home health care after surgery a few years ago,
    they inspected my medicine cabinet...and likewise was done during an
    apartment inspection (there has been a history of drug runners, meth
    labs, etc. out here). But, since everything in there had been LEGALLY PRESCRIBED, they couldn't touch me.

    Luckily being a ranking officer (lieutenant) I don't generally get stuck w
    dirty jobs any longer. And being retired I can refuse and nothing can be do JM>about it.

    Rank has its privileges.

    My weekend job is really a piece of cake.

    Just one piece?? :P

    I'm inside, in a locked building and people with access have cards to come
    and go. I'm just there in case an alarm goes off or something.
    I take my laptop, use my wifi account, and do things there (and getting pa
    for it) that I would normally be doing at home. :)

    Cushy job!!

    Aha!! The ulterior motive is revealed!! <g,d,r>

    Well, that does help. :)
    And that money generally goes right into the bank. :)

    Always.

    Daryl

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Mike Powell on Mon Feb 19 06:43:39 2018
    Mike wrote --

    We have similar issues in this area of the USA, too. Lots of prospects either do not pass drug tests or, if they happen to, they decide after a few days/weeks that "this is not what I thought it would be" or they just stop showing up.

    That has always been a problem in the work force for as long as I can remember.
    Re: security there are some places that are just "chair warmers", just being there in case anything would happen. People see that as easy money but don't realise there is more than just sitting there. A lot of responsibility, such as explaining why something happened while one was there and they didn't know till afterward. As if we are to be in several places at once. As well as a lot of boredom at times.
    Then there are that active places, where one is actually up and around and doing things, and some places require armed guards. And one has to supply their own gun, training, etc. Unless one is certified to begin with that can be costly. Out of about 250 in my company only about 30 are armed and at special places. And the only time the sidearm is seldom out of the holster, much less fired and that's on the practice range 99.99999 per cent of the time.
    Thankfully. (The same with the cops I know).
    But there are some lousy jobs in security as well, such being out in the weather for hours at time, few bathroom breaks (you learn to hold it in), dealing with the public, etc. Not to mention long hours. One might be ready to go home then learn their relief isn't showing up and have to pull a double.
    Or having to stay until someone is found to take over that shift or the person simply never shows up and can't be found (and either have their phone off or don't answer). There have been times a captain will go to the persons home and
    almost literally pull them out of bed.

    Some young people just don't seem to want jobs these days.

    They want high paying, cushy jobs right off.
    I knew many students over the years who all thought once they had that piece of paper they could walk into the business of whatever their major was and be made CEO that first morning.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 19 06:55:24 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    apartment inspection (there has been a history of drug runners, meth
    labs, etc. out here). But, since everything in there had been LEGALLY PRESCRIBED, they couldn't touch me.

    I don't even have prescribed meds. I do have a bottle of ibuprofen though.

    My weekend job is really a piece of cake.

    Just one piece?? :P

    Well, maybe two... :)

    And that money generally goes right into the bank. :)

    Always.

    I am known for being very careful with a buck. Comes from years of not having that much and if I made it from pay cheque to pay cheque I was doing well.
    I was talking to a co-worker one time about putting my money in the bank and asked if I spend any. I had trouble getting the s-word out, stammering and sputtering, and said I thought was it was in the bank it was untouchable and couldn't be s-word. :)
    Each year around Thanksgiving people talk about bargains on Black Friday and I tell how there is a anti-Black Friday movement called "Spend nothing day" and
    that I have many days like that.
    When I was in parking I would often find change on the ground and I based how well a day went by that.
    A good day: going home with the same amount as I left with.
    A really good day: going home with more than I left with.
    A bad day: going home with less than I left with.
    Once in a while I'll find bills blowing though a lot. Ones and fives the most popular. One day I found a 20 and another day a 50. I'd look around to see if anyone was nearby who may have dropped it. If no one was there it went into my pocket. When I would tell others I found a X bill on the ground they would always reply, "That bill never see the light of day again/Its out of circulation now". :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MIKE POWELL on Sun Feb 18 12:10:00 2018
    Mike,

    Some young people just don't seem to want jobs these days.

    More like "too many young people".

    I've done jobs like delivering newspapers, working in various
    restaurants (including 5 years at Burger King), working for the Arkansas
    Office Of Emergency Services (OES), and lastly, over 18 years in
    silkscreen printing. Except for the OES job, my tasks had "the dirty
    jobs that no one else wanted".

    Nowadays, folks want to "work from 12 to 1, take an hour off for
    lunch, and get a full paycheck". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Feb 19 15:06:00 2018
    Joe,

    I don't even have prescribed meds. I do have a bottle of ibuprofen thoug

    I try not to take the meds unless I absolutely have to. But, I've got
    an excellent prescription drug plan.

    I am known for being very careful with a buck. Comes from years of not
    having that much and if I made it from pay cheque to pay cheque I was doing JM>well.

    That's how my parents and grandparents grew up...especially during The
    Great Depression of the 1930's. Nowadays, the kids think there's an
    endless supply of money. For that matter, so does the government. <G>

    I was talking to a co-worker one time about putting my money in the bank a
    asked if I spend any. I had trouble getting the s-word out, stammering and JM>sputtering, and said I thought was it was in the bank it was untouchable and JM>couldn't be s-word. :)

    At least you weren't like Fonzie on "Happy Days", who could NOT say
    the word "wrong" -- "I was wrr, wrr", etc.

    Each year around Thanksgiving people talk about bargains on Black Friday a
    I tell how there is a anti-Black Friday movement called "Spend nothing day" JM>that I have many days like that.

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically would
    kill someone else to get something we want. I stay away from the malls
    and stores during any kind of sale days.

    When I was in parking I would often find change on the ground and I based
    how well a day went by that.
    A good day: going home with the same amount as I left with.
    A really good day: going home with more than I left with.
    A bad day: going home with less than I left with.

    At least the IRS agent wasn't there to tax what you got as "extra
    income". :P

    Once in a while I'll find bills blowing though a lot. Ones and fives the
    most popular. One day I found a 20 and another day a 50. I'd look around t JM>see if anyone was nearby who may have dropped it. If no one was there it we JM>into my pocket. When I would tell others I found a X bill on the ground the JM>would always reply, "That bill never see the light of day again/Its out of JM>circulation now". :)

    Years ago, cleaning up the trash outside the workplace, I found a $20
    bill. I thought "Man, I'm going to pick up trash more often". <G> I'd
    never tell others that I found it, or they'd clamor (lie) for it. I'd
    say "OK, read me the 10 digit serial number on it...if you're right,
    it's yours".

    The old saying "Finders, keepers...Losers, weepers"...comes to mind.
    :P

    Daryl

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  • From Alexander Suvorov@2:5030/722.68 to joe mackey on Tue Feb 20 10:56:08 2018
    Greetings, joe!

    19 Feb 18 06:43, joe mackey wrote Mike Powell:
    Some young people just don't seem to want jobs these days.
    They want high paying, cushy jobs right off.
    I knew many students over the years who all thought once they had
    that piece of paper they could walk into the business of whatever
    their major was and be made CEO that first morning. Joe
    Haven't you been the same at your student years? I sure was :)
    Well.. I didn't exactly think I'll become CEO the first morning, but there surely *was* a feeling that piece of paper can open any doors to the vast opportunities! :))

    Best regards, Alexander.

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Tue Feb 20 07:29:05 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    More like "too many young people".

    I've done jobs like delivering newspapers, working in various restaurants

    I can't recall the jobs I've done since I started working when I was 13. From
    part time before/after school to full time at 18. Mowing lawns (with a rotary mower I found somewhere), passing papers (one time mornings, the other time afternoons {I had moved and wised up then}), clerking in drug stores, hospital orderly, Navy (from mess cooking to sideboy/honour guard), etc.
    I never believed a job was beneath me, if I were broke and hungry enough. A lot of the too many to remember jobs were one's that I didn't want to do, but did.

    Nowadays, folks want to "work from 12 to 1, take an hour off for
    lunch, and get a full paycheck". :P

    Yep, on all age levels.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Alexander Suvorov on Tue Feb 20 07:33:46 2018
    Alexander Suvorov wrote --

    jm>> that piece of paper they could walk into the business of whatever
    jm>> their major was and be made CEO that first morning. Joe
    Haven't you been the same at your student years? I sure was :)

    Well.. I didn't exactly think I'll become CEO the first morning, but
    there surely *was* a feeling that piece of paper can open any doors to
    the vast opportunities! :))

    I have found over the years its not so much what one knows but who one knows that helps a lot.
    The trouble with that piece of paper is so many people today have one its practically worthless.
    IMHO we need more plumbers and mechanics than some hoity-toity workers.
    BTW, don't recognise the name. If you are new to Memories, welcome.
    Don't be shy, just jump in when you like.
    Joe Mackey, Mod
    Huntington, WV


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Tue Feb 20 08:03:51 2018
    Daryl wrote --
    I try not to take the meds unless I absolutely have to. But, I've got an excellent prescription drug plan.

    Until I went on Medicare (which I had to do, not much choice) I never had health insurance. If I needed medical care I paid it myself.
    I've told the story before of being in a bike accident and busting my shoulder. The hospital ER didn't know what to do with me since I had no insurance.
    Eventually I got the bills and they were like (making up numbers since I don't recall the actual ones):
    ER $1000, less cash, total $500.
    ER doctor $1000, less cash, total $350 and so on.
    The point is whatever the bill for whomever my cost was generally half or more what they charged insurance companies since there was far less paperwork, etc involved.
    If I had insurance I would have been paying many times over whatever came out of my pocket.


    I am known for being very careful with a buck.

    That's how my parents and grandparents grew up...especially during The Great Depression of the 1930's.

    My parents were a mixed bag.
    My fathers side never had much money and when he had it he spent it. Don't worry about tomorrow, enjoy it today.
    My mothers side never had any either and were careful with every penny since you don't know what will happen tomorrow.
    I take after my mother in that regard.
    People joke about my being frugal and my reply is the depression isn't over, its still 1932 in my mind. :)
    When I buy something (other than necessities like food, clothing and shelter)
    a major thought goes though my mind:
    Do I NEED it? Not do I WANT it.
    Is is more cost effective to replace than repair?
    Is it worth the price? (Can I get the same or equal item cheaper elsewhere?)
    How long will it last? Is it something that will go out of style?
    And things like that.
    As a rule of thumb if something shiny catches my eye and something I can't live without (never mind until that time I never knew it existed or had a need for it) for three days? If I can live three more days without it I probably didn't need it in the first place.

    Nowadays, the kids think there's an endless supply of money. For that
    matter, so does the government. <G>

    Ain't it the truth.
    IMO if someone doesn't earn something it has far less value than it should.
    Example. Move in one time several years was an accident, a girl not paying attention to traffic plowed into another car, sending it across the intersection and turning it 180 degrees.
    Neither driver was hurt.
    When they got of their cars they found they knew each other and the one who rear ended her friend said she was sorry. The girl who was hit said "Oh don't worry, Daddy will buy me a new one. So, how was your summer?"
    If someone works for something that item has more value than a gimme.

    Each year around Thanksgiving people talk about bargains on Black
    Friday

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically would kill someone else to get something we want. I stay away from the malls
    and stores during any kind of sale days.

    I have been to a couple of Black Friday sales at a big box store and never noticed the prices much different from any other time.
    A lot of places now open on Thanksgiving for pre-Black Friday sales.
    I did have to go to a big box store last year.
    I was working Thanksgiving and my bike was stolen, along with the one beside it. I always parked my bike at the police station where I had a "reserved" space. That time I didn't. Bike thief is a big problem on campus. Few are ever recovered.
    I went to get another one BF and there around 0630. Clerks far outnumbered customers like 15-1.

    Years ago, cleaning up the trash outside the workplace, I found a $20 bill. I thought "Man, I'm going to pick up trash more often". <G>

    Maybe the boss put it there to get more work out of ya. :)
    Joe


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Feb 20 18:48:00 2018
    They want high paying, cushy jobs right off.
    I knew many students over the years who all thought once they had that piece
    of paper they could walk into the business of whatever their major was and be >made CEO that first morning.

    Yeah, I knew some I graduated with like that. I took a few jobs that made me wonder why I bothered to get the piece of paper, too. :)

    Mike

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Feb 24 12:03:00 2018
    Joe,

    I never believed a job was beneath me, if I were broke and hungry enough.
    lot of the too many to remember jobs were one's that I didn't want to do, bu JM>did.

    Same here.

    -a Nowadays, folks want to "work from 12 to 1, take an hour off for lunch, and get a full paycheck". :P

    Yep, on all age levels.

    No wonder laziness abounds...it's like society encourages it.

    I probably overdid it while working many times...especially trying to
    lift and move 50 pound 4x8 silkscreens by myself...that's why I'm so
    bummed up with arthritis now. But, everyone left work as soon as the
    dirty work came to me.

    This one female (rumor was she was having an affair with the boss,
    even though he was already married), was just standing around, and I
    asked her to "give me a hand". She said "I don't want to get my hands
    dirty". I snapped back at her "So, you have someone clean you up after
    using the toilet??!! If you don't want to get your hands dirty, you're
    in the wrong business".

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Feb 24 12:09:00 2018
    Joe,

    Until I went on Medicare (which I had to do, not much choice) I never had
    health insurance. If I needed medical care I paid it myself.

    I really didn't have good health insurance until I started working in silkscreen printing...which I did for 18 years, before I had to resign
    due to declining health. My body basically said "you're not doing this anymore".

    The point is whatever the bill for whomever my cost was generally half or
    more what they charged insurance companies since there was far less paperwor JM>etc involved.

    I was able to get financial aid from a local hospital after 2
    outpatient surgeries had complications, and I had to stay a night in the hospital both times. Basically, they wrote it off.

    My mothers side never had any either and were careful with every penny sin
    you don't know what will happen tomorrow.
    I take after my mother in that regard.
    People joke about my being frugal and my reply is the depression isn't ove
    its still 1932 in my mind. :)

    That's how my parents and grandparents were.

    When I buy something (other than necessities like food, clothing and shelt
    a major thought goes though my mind:
    Do I NEED it? Not do I WANT it.

    Exactly.

    Is is more cost effective to replace than repair?

    Nowadays, it's that way with computer or ham radio equipment.

    Is it worth the price? (Can I get the same or equal item cheaper
    elsewhere?)

    No use in driving all over town trying to find a good deal...you'll
    waste all that fuel for the car.

    How long will it last? Is it something that will go out of style?

    As long as it works, I don't care if it's not in style.

    As a rule of thumb if something shiny catches my eye and something I can'
    live without (never mind until that time I never knew it existed or had a ne JM>for it) for three days? If I can live three more days without it I probably JM>didn't need it in the first place.

    Exactly.

    When they got of their cars they found they knew each other and the one wh
    rear ended her friend said she was sorry. The girl who was hit said "Oh don JM>worry, Daddy will buy me a new one. So, how was your summer?"

    Sounds like Daddy Warbucks in "Annie". :P

    I went to get another one BF and there around 0630. Clerks far outnumbere
    customers like 15-1.

    That's rare...it seems like the customers outnumber the cashiers in
    the stores.

    -a Years ago, cleaning up the trash outside the workplace, I found a $ bill. I thought "Man, I'm going to pick up trash more often". <G>

    Maybe the boss put it there to get more work out of ya. :)

    He knew what a good worker I was...and I know they were in shock when
    I submitted my resignation. They had to find another flunkie to do the
    dirty jobs that no one else wanted.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MIKE POWELL on Sat Feb 24 12:40:00 2018
    Mike,

    Yeah, I knew some I graduated with like that. I took a few jobs that made m MP>wonder why I bothered to get the piece of paper, too. :)

    I have a Bachelor Of Arts in Radio/TV/Film from the University Of
    Arkansas at Little Rock (UALR)...but the only "radio" I do now is with
    "amateur radio". I am the Volunteer Examiner (VE) Team Leader for their
    ham radio club, though.

    * SLMR 2.1a * Dental plan...Lisa needs braces...dental plan...Lisa...

    Been there, done that...braces, night braces, etc. I had buck teeth so
    bad beforehand, I could've passed for Bugs Bunny. <G> But, I had to have
    all my teeth removed 18 years ago, and have worn full dentures since
    then.

    Daryl

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 26 07:34:49 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Is it worth the price? (Can I get the same or equal item cheaper
    elsewhere?)

    No use in driving all over town trying to find a good deal...you'll waste all that fuel for the car.

    That's when I go cyber shopping.
    Costs nothing but some time comparing prices, features, etc at different sites.
    Many years ago I worked in a smaller box store as a temp while they were remodeling.
    One evening a clerk followed a woman around the store and watched as the customer wrote down numbers in a pocket notebook. The clerk confronted the customer wanting to know what she was doing and told comparing prices. The clerk told her she (the customer) was free to look but not write down any prices, it was against company policy. I had never heard of anything like that
    before nor had the customer, who told that to the clerk and then left the store.
    That whole chain is now history.

    "Oh don't worry, Daddy will buy me a new one."

    Sounds like Daddy Warbucks in "Annie". :P

    That is the general attitude of many students whose parents pay for everything. And she is probably the type who will find a man to pay for everything in her life, while complaining about patrimony. :(

    I went to get another one BF and there around 0630. Clerks far
    outnumbered customers like 15-1.

    That's rare...it seems like the customers outnumber the cashiers in
    the stores.

    That is one reason I like going there early.
    The first bus passing that place is at 0600 and I like hitting the store then. May have to step around some stock containers where the shelves are being refilled but no biggie to me.
    A friend, with a car, likes to go around 0300-0400 for the same reason.
    Joe


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  • From Alexander Suvorov@2:5030/722.68 to joe mackey on Mon Feb 26 15:50:46 2018
    Greetings, joe!

    20 Feb 18 07:33, joe mackey wrote Alexander Suvorov:
    Haven't you been the same at your student years? I sure was :)
    Well.. I didn't exactly think I'll become CEO the first morning,
    but there surely *was* a feeling that piece of paper can open any
    doors to the vast opportunities! :))
    I have found over the years its not so much what one knows but who
    one knows that helps a lot. The trouble with that piece of paper is so many people today have one its practically worthless.
    Both statements are true. Although, the paper is not *at all* worthless, it just acts like an entry ticket to most job interviews :)

    IMHO we need more plumbers and mechanics than some hoity-toity
    workers.
    Maybe we do.. But the thing is - not so much people (especially young people) are willing to become ones.

    BTW, don't recognise the name. If you are new to Memories,
    Yep, you got me red-handed :) But I'm not new to Fido alltogether. Was present here in about late 90's - early 00's, when it was on a peak of it's popularity here in xUSSR space.

    welcome.
    Thank you :)

    Don't be shy, just jump in when you like.
    Well, I believe I allready did, didn't I? :))

    Best regards, Alexander.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Feb 26 13:57:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Daryl Stout on 02-20-18 08:03 <=-

    Until I went on Medicare (which I had to do, not much choice) I
    never had health insurance. If I needed medical care I paid it myself. I've told the story before of being in a bike accident and busting
    my shoulder. The hospital ER didn't know what to do with me since I
    had no insurance.
    Eventually I got the bills and they were like (making up numbers
    since I don't recall the actual ones):
    ER $1000, less cash, total $500.
    ER doctor $1000, less cash, total $350 and so on.
    The point is whatever the bill for whomever my cost was generally
    half or more what they charged insurance companies since there was far less paperwork, etc involved.

    My sister's husband doesn't believe in getting other than mandatory
    insurances, so that family hasn't had health insurance... my sister had
    to work out deals with all their doctors and the occasional hospital
    stay or urgent care/ED visit... with ten kids, that made for a lot of negotiations... usually reasonable, but when her son had major surgery,
    it still left them with a lot of bills to work out....

    If I had insurance I would have been paying many times over
    whatever came out of my pocket.

    That's not necessarily true... We have had health insurance right along,
    and our experience has been that it has saved us a lot... The insurance companies may be billed higher prices, but then they negotiate them
    down... if one is paying co-insurance (such as with Medicare), you only
    pay 20% of what the final bill is once the insurance knocks it back
    (often close to half)... And one can still work out deals with the
    hospital or the doctor, should that still be more than one is able to
    pay... And, yes, I'm counting the cost of premiums in my estimate of savings.... :)

    My parents were a mixed bag.
    My fathers side never had much money and when he had it he spent it.
    Don't worry about tomorrow, enjoy it today.
    My mothers side never had any either and were careful with every
    penny since you don't know what will happen tomorrow.

    My parents fall between the two... never had much money, so were careful
    how they spent it, but they weren't afraid to spend on what they
    believed in (like Christian schools for their kids when available)...

    When I buy something (other than necessities like food, clothing and shelter) a major thought goes though my mind:
    Do I NEED it? Not do I WANT it.
    Is is more cost effective to replace than repair?
    Is it worth the price? (Can I get the same or equal item cheaper elsewhere?)
    How long will it last? Is it something that will go out of style?
    And things like that.

    I'm not much of a shopper, period... We buy food weekly, clothes when
    needed, and otherwise it's for things we need... And we expect things to
    last, so we'll pay a little more for quality...

    As a rule of thumb if something shiny catches my eye and something
    I can't live without (never mind until that time I never knew it
    existed or had a need for it) for three days? If I can live three more days without it I probably didn't need it in the first place.

    I'll tend to think about things for weeks before deciding to get them...
    often deciding it isn't needed... but sometimes, buying just before a
    sale ends when I decide we do need it... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Alexander Suvorov on Tue Feb 27 07:03:41 2018
    Alexander wrote --


    jm>> I have found over the years its not so much what one knows but who
    jm>> one knows that helps a lot. The trouble with that piece of paper
    is so many people today have one its practically worthless.


    Both statements are true. Although, the paper is not *at all* worthless, it just acts like an entry ticket to most job interviews :)

    In some industries, that is true, such as engineering, medicine, etc.
    But there are a lot fewer engineers, medical people, than the rest.

    jm>> IMHO we need more plumbers and mechanics than some hoity-toity
    jm>> workers.

    Maybe we do.. But the thing is - not so much people (especially young people) are willing to become ones.

    Too many people today don't want to get their hands dirty.
    Old joke:
    Guy calls a plumber and after the problem is fixed the plumber presents his bill. The man is outraged, saying his doctor doesn't charge that much.
    The plumber smiles and says when he was as a doctor he didn't charge that much either.

    jm>> BTW, don't recognise the name. If you are new to Memories,

    Yep, you got me red-handed :)

    Well, with only a handful of regular and semi-regulars its easy to spot a new
    person. :)

    But I'm not new to Fido alltogether. Was present here in about late 90's - early 00's, when it was on a peak of it's popularity here in xUSSR
    space.

    I remember those days. :)
    I recall how people would post "I'm from...." and mention some distant country, often in former SSR countries.
    Then after a few posts would never be heard from again.
    Could have been Memories wasn't their type of echo.
    With the lack of posters I have sort of loosened the rules and its about most
    anything now, but still with a past/now theme, no matter how thin that might be.
    When I started here in the early to mid 90s almost anything not related to the past was discouraged. Of course there were like 50 or more posts a day. Now its more like 50 or so posts a month. Though once in a while something will be posted that wakes people up. :)
    The one topic we try to avoid as much as possible are modern day politics and
    religion.

    jm>> Don't be shy, just jump in when you like.

    Well, I believe I allready did, didn't I? :))

    Yep. :)
    Don't be a stranger.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Feb 27 07:14:54 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    JM>> The point is whatever the bill for whomever my cost was generally
    JM>> half or more what they charged insurance companies

    to work out deals with all their doctors and the occasional hospital
    stay or urgent care/ED visit... with ten kids, that made for a lot of negotiations

    A situation like that is different.
    With me, its only me. No dependents, no other family members, etc.

    I'm not much of a shopper, period... We buy food weekly, clothes when needed, and otherwise it's for things we need... And we expect things to last, so we'll pay a little more for quality...

    There have been times when I had to replace something and often quickly. Even then it was trying to find the best deal on whatever needed replaced. But
    I never recall having to drop everything and running out to to get whatever, unless of course an emergency. I can't even recall off hand something that was
    an emergency replacement.
    JM>> days without it I probably didn't need it in the first place.

    I'll tend to think about things for weeks before deciding to get them... often deciding it isn't needed... but sometimes, buying just before a
    sale ends when I decide we do need it... :)

    Once in a while if something is on sale and I'm getting low on that item (or
    replacement is coming up-clothes, shoes, etc) I'll take advantage of it.
    With my luck, whatever I buy will go on sale after I buy it. Or the price will come down. I always have in the back of my mind the CEO of the company making whatever I just brought finding out I had purchased that item "Ok, Mackey has bought that item. Let's lower the price/put it on sale". ==sigh==
    :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Feb 27 12:52:00 2018
    Joe,

    -a No use in driving all over town trying to find a good deal...you'll waste all that fuel for the car.

    That's when I go cyber shopping.
    Costs nothing but some time comparing prices, features, etc at different
    sites.

    When I had to have outpatient surgery a few years ago, and then home
    health care for 2 months, it was just before Thanksgiving. I asked the
    nurse if she was doing holiday shopping, and she replied "Only through
    Amazon".

    One evening a clerk followed a woman around the store and watched as the
    customer wrote down numbers in a pocket notebook. The clerk confronted the JM>customer wanting to know what she was doing and told comparing prices. The JM>clerk told her she (the customer) was free to look but not write down any JM>prices, it was against company policy. I had never heard of anything like t JM>before nor had the customer, who told that to the clerk and then left the JM>store.
    That whole chain is now history.

    I think I remember a story like that.

    "Oh don't worry, Daddy will buy me a new one."

    -a Sounds like Daddy Warbucks in "Annie". :P

    That is the general attitude of many students whose parents pay for
    everything. And she is probably the type who will find a man to pay for JM>everything in her life, while complaining about patrimony. :(

    I've known some bi-polar females, and it was like "I want this. I want
    that. Gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme". It's like "Would it be too
    much trouble if we could make up our minds??!!". And, when you tell them
    that "Life is NOT Burger King...you can NOT always 'Have It Your Way'",
    they got very angry. I can say that, though...I worked for them for 5
    years in central Arkansas 40 years ago.

    The first bus passing that place is at 0600 and I like hitting the store
    then. May have to step around some stock containers where the shelves are JM>being refilled but no biggie to me.
    A friend, with a car, likes to go around 0300-0400 for the same reason.

    Is that place open 24 hours?? From the way you quoted the time, it
    would appear so.

    Daryl
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Feb 27 13:13:00 2018
    Joe,

    Too many people today don't want to get their hands dirty.

    Sounds like a girl at my former workplace, in silkscreen printing (she
    was rumored to be having an affair with the company vice president, who
    was himself, married). When I asked her to help me with a deal, she said
    "I don't want to get my hands dirty!!". I growled at her "So, you have
    someone clean you up after you use the toilet??!! If you don't want to
    get your hands dirty, you're in the wrong business!!". I pity the guy
    who ends up going with her.

    Old joke:
    Guy calls a plumber and after the problem is fixed the plumber presents h
    bill. The man is outraged, saying his doctor doesn't charge that much.
    The plumber smiles and says when he was as a doctor he didn't charge that
    much either.

    LOL. But, do they both have a crack in their armour (their butt??!!)
    <G> It's also like the cartoon where the mailman is squatting down to
    get the mail out of the mailbox. His pants fall, showing his "crack".
    This nearsighted old lady thinks that's where she can put her letter!!


    Well, with only a handful of regular and semi-regulars its easy to spot a
    person. :)

    Better than being irregular...there are prunes for that. <G>

    With the lack of posters I have sort of loosened the rules and its about m
    anything now, but still with a past/now theme, no matter how thin that might JM>be.

    There are still some...but most of the former moderators have
    disappeared.

    When I started here in the early to mid 90s almost anything not related to
    the past was discouraged. Of course there were like 50 or more posts a day. JM>Now its more like 50 or so posts a month. Though once in a while something JM>will be posted that wakes people up. :)

    <SNORE!> Mmmfffhhh!! What?? Huh?? <G>

    The one topic we try to avoid as much as possible are modern day politics
    religion.

    You forgot "The Great Pumpkin". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Thu Mar 1 05:49:25 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    nurse if she was doing holiday shopping, and she replied "Only through Amazon".

    I generally shop several different places, depending on the item I need. And there are a few I skip due to their high prices but won't mention any names
    (bestbuy).
    {I was looking to replace my tablet and this one place had one for over $100. Several other places had the exact same thing for half that amount.}

    The first bus passing that place is at 0600 and I like hitting the
    store

    Is that place open 24 hours?? From the way you quoted the time, it would appear so.

    Yeah, this big blue big box store is 24/7 as are the others in the area.
    Some of the shops housed there are only open certain hours, such as whatever
    FF chain is there, optical, deli, etc.
    From around midnight to 7 there is only one set of doors for entry/exit.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Thu Mar 1 05:51:47 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    You forgot "The Great Pumpkin". <G>

    And the "Great Scott!". :)
    Joe


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  • From Alexander Suvorov@2:5030/722.68 to joe mackey on Thu Mar 1 09:48:18 2018
    Greetings, joe!

    27 Feb 18 07:03, joe mackey wrote Alexander Suvorov:
    Both statements are true. Although, the paper is not *at all*
    worthless, it just acts like an entry ticket to most job
    interviews :)
    In some industries, that is true, such as engineering, medicine,
    etc. But there are a lot fewer engineers, medical people, than the
    rest.
    Well.. I agree it's *supposed* to be this way, but in reality.. Well, at least here in Russia, at least inside big cities, the most of people are so-called office monkeys.. or office drones or cube dwellers or however else you use to call'em.. BTW, in here we use to call them "office plankton", the term came in about middle-to-late 00's and quickly became very catchy here :)
    And I don't know how it is on the other continent, but here almost all of such positions *require* higher education! Certainly not in engineering or medicine,
    but in management or economics or something else like that. And let me tell you
    - such kind of education is much-much more popular among the young people here than a technical or a medical one.. Well, at least it was 15-20 years ago, when
    I was a student myself.

    Guy calls a plumber and after the problem is fixed the plumber
    presents his bill. The man is outraged, saying his doctor doesn't
    charge that much.
    The plumber smiles and says when he was as a doctor he didn't
    charge that much either.
    :)))) Good one!

    I recall how people would post "I'm from...." and mention some
    distant country, often in former SSR countries. Then after a few posts would never be heard from again. Could have been Memories wasn't their type of echo.
    Well, maybe that. But I think it's more because of quite a few people here *actually* speak english well enough. Yes, it's teached here almost in every school, but on a rather poor level. Most people can exchange a few basic phrases like "what's your name", "where are you from".. something like that, but they can't *actually* communicate :)

    Of course there were like 50 or more posts a day. Now
    its more like 50 or so posts a month. Though once in a while
    something will be posted that wakes people up. :)
    Exactly the same here, in russian-speaking Fido :( In the 90's it was a living-breathing place. Something was always happening in almost every echo. Nowadays it feels more like a museum of an old technology.


    Best regards, Alexander.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ALEXANDER SUVOROV on Thu Mar 1 15:11:00 2018
    Quoting Alexander Suvorov to Joe Mackey on 02-26-18 15:50 <=-

    Haven't you been the same at your student years? I sure was :)
    Well.. I didn't exactly think I'll become CEO the first morning,
    but there surely *was* a feeling that piece of paper can open any
    doors to the vast opportunities! :))
    I have found over the years its not so much what one knows but who
    one knows that helps a lot. The trouble with that piece of paper is so
    many people today have one its practically worthless.
    Both statements are true. Although, the paper is not *at all*
    worthless, it just acts like an entry ticket to most job interviews :)

    Depends on the job... and the situation... :) My son went to school for architecture, and never quite finished to get the degree itself... but
    part of the schooling was actually working at various firms, so he got a
    lot of work experience to add to his natural gift for architecture
    design, which he used to get himself started in the field, despite the
    lack of a piece of paper...

    BTW, don't recognise the name. If you are new to Memories,
    Yep, you got me red-handed :) But I'm not new to Fido alltogether. Was present here in about late 90's - early 00's, when it was on a peak of it's popularity here in xUSSR space.
    welcome.
    Thank you :)

    So welcome back to Fido... :) and it's always nice to see new people in Memories.. :)

    Don't be shy, just jump in when you like.
    Well, I believe I allready did, didn't I? :))

    So you did... :) We'd love to have you stick around... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Mar 1 15:59:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 02-27-18 07:14 <=-

    The point is whatever the bill for whomever my cost was generally
    half or more what they charged insurance companies
    to work out deals with all their doctors and the occasional hospital
    stay or urgent care/ED visit... with ten kids, that made for a lot of
    negotiations

    A situation like that is different.
    With me, its only me. No dependents, no other family members, etc.

    But still, you might have done as well or better with having
    insurance... granted, if you are mostly well, only have the rare broken
    bone or such, it could be a different story from someone that does have
    some sort of chronic health problem that requires ongoing treatment...

    Did you decide on just original Medicare with the Part D supplement (in
    case you ever need meds)....?

    I'm not much of a shopper, period... We buy food weekly, clothes when
    needed, and otherwise it's for things we need... And we expect things
    to last, so we'll pay a little more for quality...

    There have been times when I had to replace something and often
    quickly. Even then it was trying to find the best deal on whatever
    needed replaced. But I never recall having to drop everything and
    running out to to get whatever, unless of course an emergency. I can't even recall off hand something that was an emergency replacement.

    Except, sort of, your bike needing replacement after being stolen... :)

    days without it I probably didn't need it in the first place.
    I'll tend to think about things for weeks before deciding to get them...
    often deciding it isn't needed... but sometimes, buying just before a
    sale ends when I decide we do need it... :)

    Once in a while if something is on sale and I'm getting low on that
    item (or replacement is coming up-clothes, shoes, etc) I'll take
    advantage of it.

    We try to do that, too... :)

    With my luck, whatever I buy will go on sale after
    I buy it. Or the price will come down. I always have in the back of
    my mind the CEO of the company making whatever I just brought finding
    out I had purchased that item "Ok, Mackey has bought that item. Let's lower the price/put it on sale". ==sigh== :)

    I'm sure it just seems that way... ;) I've heard others have the same plaint... One person said he'll buy one of something, and then the next
    day when it goes on sale, buy the rest of what he needed... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Mar 1 11:56:00 2018
    Joe,


    I generally shop several different places, depending on the item I need.
    And there are a few I skip due to their high prices but won't mention any na JM>(bestbuy).

    So much for being secretive. <G>

    {I was looking to replace my tablet and this one place had one for over
    $100. Several other places had the exact same thing for half that amount.}

    It's like buying gasoline for your vehicle. Depending on where you go
    in central Arkansas, prices can be quite a bit cheaper than other areas.

    Yeah, this big blue big box store is 24/7 as are the others in the area.
    Some of the shops housed there are only open certain hours, such as whate
    FF chain is there, optical, deli, etc.
    From around midnight to 7 there is only one set of doors for entry/exit.

    I can understand that.

    Of course, it could be like the bizarre sign, which noted "In case of
    fire, take the stairs". Well, amongst the flames, here's a guy running
    with a set of stairs in both arms. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ALEXANDER SUVOROV on Fri Mar 2 20:57:00 2018
    Quoting Alexander Suvorov to Joe Mackey on 03-01-18 09:48 <=-

    I recall how people would post "I'm from...." and mention some
    distant country, often in former SSR countries. Then after a few posts would never be heard from again. Could have been Memories wasn't their type of echo.
    Well, maybe that. But I think it's more because of quite a few people
    here *actually* speak english well enough. Yes, it's teached here
    almost in every school, but on a rather poor level. Most people can exchange a few basic phrases like "what's your name", "where are you from".. something like that, but they can't *actually* communicate :)

    Over the years, I've noticed a few people from Russia and vicinity
    posting in various echoes... most of those that stayed around did have a
    better grasp of the language as you indicate... :) There were always a
    few that would come, and then decide it was too hard to communicate...

    Of course there were like 50 or more posts a day. Now
    its more like 50 or so posts a month. Though once in a while
    something will be posted that wakes people up. :)
    Exactly the same here, in russian-speaking Fido :( In the 90's it was
    a living-breathing place. Something was always happening in almost
    every echo. Nowadays it feels more like a museum of an old technology.

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us never
    left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... True Multi-Tasking - 4 computers and a chair with wheels...

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Sat Mar 3 02:12:00 2018
    Nancy,


    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us never NB>left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Alexander Suvorov@2:5030/722.68 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Mar 5 09:37:46 2018
    Greetings, NANCY!

    02 Mar 18 20:57, NANCY BACKUS wrote ALEXANDER SUVOROV:
    Over the years, I've noticed a few people from Russia and vicinity
    posting in various echoes... most of those that stayed around did have
    a better grasp of the language as you indicate... :) There were
    always a few that would come, and then decide it was too hard to communicate...
    I think "few" is a key word here :) Most of the people just stick to the russian echoes and don't even bother to try english ones.

    Exactly the same here, in russian-speaking Fido :( In the 90's it
    was a living-breathing place. Something was always happening in
    almost every echo. Nowadays it feels more like a museum of an old
    technology.
    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :)
    Which, sadly, happens not a lot today :(

    Some of us never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    Well, thank you! Really, because of you Fido _still_ exists despite of everything! :)

    Best regards, Alexander.

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Mon Mar 5 06:44:30 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    It's like buying gasoline for your vehicle. Depending on where you go in central Arkansas, prices can be quite a bit cheaper than other areas.

    Being on the border of two other states (OH/KY) often times one or the other will have items costing less than here.


    Of course, it could be like the bizarre sign, which noted "In case of fire, take the stairs". Well, amongst the flames, here's a guy running with a set of stairs in both arms. <G>

    Ok, here are the stairs. Where do ya want 'em?
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Mar 5 06:51:43 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    Did you decide on just original Medicare with the Part D supplement (in case you ever need meds)....?

    ==checking card ==

    The original, A&B.

    JM>> even recall off hand something that was an emergency replacement.

    Except, sort of, your bike needing replacement after being stolen... :)

    Well, that wasn't really an emergency. I can walk or take the bus in the duration.
    We have a very good bus system here and a few years ago bike racks were added
    to the front of the buses. They only hold two bikes, and only been one time I had to pass up a bus with my bike because the rack was full.
    That day I went on and rode the bike, it was only about a 15 mile ride.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Mar 5 06:57:21 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    AS>> Well, maybe that. But I think it's more because of quite a few people
    AS>> here *actually* speak english well enough.

    Over the years, I've noticed a few people from Russia and vicinity
    posting in various echoes

    In the late '90s I had a middle aged neighbour, can't recall her name, who was from Russia attending Marshall University here in the teaching program. Her English was very good, only a very slight accent.
    She was only here about a year or so.

    AS>> Exactly the same here, in russian-speaking Fido

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    IMHO people left Fido for the wider web in general.
    But it is nice when someone new drops in. :)
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Alexander Suvorov on Mon Mar 5 07:00:19 2018
    Alexander wrote --

    NB>> Some of us never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    Well, thank you! Really, because of you Fido _still_ exists despite of everything! :)

    Or as Daryl would say "despite Joe". (Ha! Beat ya to it!)
    Daryl and I like to tease each other and nothing serious in it.
    Joe


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Mar 5 18:31:00 2018
    Being on the border of two other states (OH/KY) often times one or the other
    will have items costing less than here.

    When I worked near Downtown Louisville, KY, I remember that gas was always
    less expensive on the Indiana side of the river. Usually enough so that I would drive the extra 5 miles or so to get it.

    Mike

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  • From Alexander Suvorov@2:5030/722.68 to joe mackey on Tue Mar 6 09:38:30 2018
    Greetings, joe!

    05 Mar 18 06:57, joe mackey wrote NANCY BACKUS:
    -aAS>>> Well, maybe that. But I think it's more because of quite a few
    -aAS>>> people here *actually* speak english well enough.
    Over the years, I've noticed a few people from Russia and
    vicinity posting in various echoes
    In the late '90s I had a middle aged neighbour, can't recall her
    name, who was from Russia attending Marshall University here in the teaching program. Her English was very good, only a very slight
    accent. She was only here about a year or so.
    Well, as I've stated - there sertainly *are* people here that speak english well enough to communicate freely. Myself here for instance :) Theese are the people you would from time to time encounter in some english-speaking echoes, that you may see on some english-speaking internet forums or some social networks nowadays, and theese are people that you can even meet live in the US when they visit your country by their bussiness, maybe by some exchange programs and whatnot..
    But! Thing is - such people are hardly even 1% of the population here. Trust me, I live here and I know how it really is :) What I find somewhat funny is when you ask almost anyone here "do you speak english?" the answer in *most* cases will be "yes".. well, some may honestly say like "a little". Well.. *technically* they do, since they learned it at school.. a little.. a *very-very* little! But if you actually try to communicate with them in english
    you will pretty soon find out that beyond some basic phrases that I've mentioned here before, they really don't speak the language like at all!

    Best regards, Alexander.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MIKE POWELL on Tue Mar 6 11:10:00 2018
    Mike,

    Being on the border of two other states (OH/KY) often times one or the oth MP>>will have items costing less than here.

    When I worked near Downtown Louisville, KY, I remember that gas was always MP>less expensive on the Indiana side of the river. Usually enough so that I MP>would drive the extra 5 miles or so to get it.

    Depending on where you are in Little Rock (Pulaski County), the price
    can be as much as 20 cents a gallon different...and it's cheaper in
    neighboring counties!!

    The local Kroger chain offers "reward points"...for every $100 you
    spend in groceries, you get 10 cents a gallon off in gasoline. The
    caveats are that there is a limit up to $1 off...and the fuel points for
    the current month expire at the end of the following month...you can't
    keep accumulating them.

    One time, I had 80 cents a gallon built up, and with the price of gas,
    at one Kroger Fuel Stop, I got the gas for 86 cents a gallon!! :)

    Daryl

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Daryl Stout on Tue Mar 6 22:10:00 2018
    03-06-18 11:10 Daryl Stout wrote to MIKE POWELL about Hard labour
    Howdy! Daryl,

    @MSGID: <5A9F0BFC.19950.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Mike,

    Being on the border of two other states (OH/KY) often times one or the
    th
    will have items costing less than here.

    When I worked near Downtown Louisville, KY, I remember that gas was always
    less expensive on the Indiana side of the river. Usually enough so that I
    would drive the extra 5 miles or so to get it.

    I remember Dad driving across the downtown Ohio River Bridge to buy gas in Indiana too.

    Depending on where you are in Little Rock (Pulaski County), the price can be as much as 20 cents a gallon different...and it's cheaper in neighboring counties!!

    Is there any place in Arkansas that sells Regular Gasoline?

    Some years ago a trip took me through Arkansas both ways, and the Stations
    I bought Gas at only had Gas mixed with Corn Alcohol. [ Ethanol ]

    Even here in Indiana I have stopped at (Brand Name) Stations to find some
    of them didn't sell 100 Per Cent Gasoline as the Station of the same Brand
    near to me does.

    Its confusing.

    I wish there was a National Regulation saying that the Sign showing the
    Price of Gasoline had to be a different color Sign for places that don't
    sell 100% Gasoline.

    The Ethanol markings on the pump usually are on the side, not the front of
    the gas pump where I select the Grade of Gas I want.

    The local Kroger chain offers "reward points"...for every $100 you
    spend in groceries, you get 10 cents a gallon off in gasoline. The
    caveats are that there is a limit up to $1 off...and the fuel points
    for the current month expire at the end of the following month...you
    can't keep accumulating them.

    Are You buying Gas at the Kroger Grocery Store Gas Pumps?
    I've never got Gasoline at the Store.

    Some months we buy more than $100 in groceries and can use the Store Card
    at the Gas Station.

    I have bought over 10 gallons of Gas at neighborhood Gas Stations and
    got Ten Cents off every Gallon.

    Example: If I put Thirteen Gallons in the tank I save $1.30 using Krogers
    card.

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 7 05:51:47 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    The local Kroger chain offers "reward points"...

    I have a couple of those rewards cards for various businesses but I have found in general they are worthless.
    IMO they are more a means for the company to track what the holder buys than anything else.
    Doesn't work that way with me. Several cards have no name attached.
    They were just handed me to and I was using cash at the time.
    The only ones that do have my name are two bank cards. Can't omit a name there.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ED VANCE on Wed Mar 7 12:40:00 2018
    Ed,

    Is there any place in Arkansas that sells Regular Gasoline?

    If you mean "leaded regular gasoline", the answer is no. Environmental regulations got rid of all of that years ago. The main reason for the
    gasoline to have "lead" in it, was to prevent the engine from
    "knocking". There are 3 grades of gasoline...regular, mid-level, and high-test...all determined by the octane in each.

    Some years ago a trip took me through Arkansas both ways, and the Stations EV>I bought Gas at only had Gas mixed with Corn Alcohol. [ Ethanol ]

    The Kum 'N Go franchises have that, but I don't know if the 3 brands
    of gas I mentioned earlier, have ethanol, unless it's specifically noted otherwise.

    Its confusing.

    For sure. I remember a few years ago, some places were recycling the
    used grease that cooked things like french fries, onion rings, chicken,
    fish, etc. -- if you got behind a vehicle having that, you started
    drooling. :P

    I wish there was a National Regulation saying that the Sign showing the EV>Price of Gasoline had to be a different color Sign for places that don't EV>sell 100% Gasoline.

    Ever since I can remember, the gas has always had 9/10 of a cent per
    gallon (i.e. 2.49.9). Why don't they just round if off to $2.50??

    The Ethanol markings on the pump usually are on the side, not the front of EV>the gas pump where I select the Grade of Gas I want.

    I think that's the way it is here as well.

    Are You buying Gas at the Kroger Grocery Store Gas Pumps?
    I've never got Gasoline at the Store.

    Yes...but, not all the area Krogers have fuel stops in front of the
    store.

    Example: If I put Thirteen Gallons in the tank I save $1.30 using Krogers EV>card.

    For Kroger, it's 10 cents a gallon off, for every $100 you spend, up
    to $1 off. Points earned in the current month, expire at the end of the following month. If you just have a Kroger Card, you still get 3 cents
    off per gallon...and every little bit helps.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Mar 7 13:06:00 2018
    Joe,

    IMO they are more a means for the company to track what the holder buys th
    anything else.

    Probably so. But, with doing all the driving, shopping, etc. for my
    Mom who'll be 92 this fall, the main thing I get for her is Nestle's
    Quick Chocolate milk in the plastic bottles. She doesn't eat much
    anymore, but drinks a lot of that.

    One time, I went to the store, and they were sold out. So, I told her
    that "Some moron bought all their stuff out". Then, I paused, and said
    "Wait a minute...that was me"!! <G>

    But, I do save money on gasoline.

    Doesn't work that way with me. Several cards have no name attached.
    They were just handed me to and I was using cash at the time.

    I can see it now...the card says on it NO NAME. <G>

    The only ones that do have my name are two bank cards. Can't omit a name
    there.

    I only have a debit card...after having filed for, and gone through
    Chapter 13 Bankruptcy nearly 10 years ago, I resolved never to get
    another credit card (I don't get enough on disability to have one). So,
    I never bothered to rebuild my credit.

    Daryl

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  • From Steve Wolf@1:135/369 to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 7 20:57:52 2018
    Ever since I can remember, the gas has always had 9/10 of a cent per gallon (i.e. 2.49.9). Why don't they just round if off to $2.50??



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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to Daryl Stout on Wed Mar 7 23:22:00 2018
    03-07-18 12:40 Daryl Stout wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Hard labour
    Howdy! Darly,

    @MSGID: <5AA05D7C.19954.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Ed,

    Is there any place in Arkansas that sells Regular Gasoline?

    If you mean "leaded regular gasoline", the answer is no.
    No, not Leaded Regular Gasoline, I thought that You wouldn't had thought
    I was talking about Leaded Gas since Stations only sell Unleaded Gas and Unleaded Gas mixed with ethanol.
    -snip-
    Some years ago a trip took me through Arkansas both ways, and the Stations
    I bought Gas at only had Gas mixed with Corn Alcohol. [ Ethanol ]

    The Kum 'N Go franchises have that, but I don't know if the 3 brands
    of gas I mentioned earlier, have ethanol, unless it's specifically
    noted otherwise.

    Its confusing.
    Someone wrote some time ago that the Ethanol/Alcohol will mix with any
    Water in the gas tank and pick up any rust in the tank too, causing the
    Fuel Filter to clog up.

    Your Mileage May Vary.

    For sure. I remember a few years ago, some places were recycling the used grease that cooked things like french fries, onion rings, chicken, fish, etc. -- if you got behind a vehicle having that, you started drooling. :P

    I read an article (iirc) about a Diesel Fire Engine traveling from the U.S. South Bound to be delivered almost to the very end of South America.

    The people driving it stopped at restrauants(sp?) along the way if they couldn't locate a service station selling Diesel Fuel.

    I either read about that or saw a TV Show about the trip.
    The Fire Engine got to the people who ordered it.

    I wish there was a National Regulation saying that the Sign showing the
    Price of Gasoline had to be a different color Sign for places that don't
    sell 100% Gasoline.

    Ever since I can remember, the gas has always had 9/10 of a cent per gallon (i.e. 2.49.9). Why don't they just round if off to $2.50??

    That .9 is another subject, I was writing about a regulation for Unleaded Gasoline Stations and Stations selling Unleaded Gasoline with Ethanol added.

    To Me 100% Gasoline doesn't have the additive called Ethanol in it, even
    now when Gasoline is Unleaded.

    In my mind I think I remember seeing in a catalog or somewhere a can with
    a liquid to pour in the Gas Tank of cars that needed Lead to run properly.

    The Ethanol markings on the pump usually are on the side, not the front of
    the gas pump where I select the Grade of Gas I want.

    I think that's the way it is here as well.

    As high of a price that Gasoline is, I don't want to spend my money at the
    Pump to put Ethanol in my Gas Tank, wheather it is 15%, 10% or 1%, I don't
    want to buy Gas with that stuff in it unless no one in the area sells REAL GASOLINE (unleaded, of course).

    Are You buying Gas at the Kroger Grocery Store Gas Pumps?
    I've never got Gasoline at the Store.

    Yes...but, not all the area Krogers have fuel stops in front of the store.

    Same-O, Same-O here.

    Example: If I put Thirteen Gallons in the tank I save $1.30 using Krogers
    card.

    For Kroger, it's 10 cents a gallon off, for every $100 you spend, up
    to $1 off. Points earned in the current month, expire at the end of the following month. If you just have a Kroger Card, you still get 3 cents
    off per gallon...and every little bit helps.

    Sure!

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Thu Mar 8 06:24:47 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Is there any place in Arkansas that sells Regular Gasoline?

    If you mean "leaded regular gasoline", the answer is no. Environmental regulations got rid of all of that years ago. The main reason for the gasoline to have "lead" in it, was to prevent the engine from
    "knocking".

    Remember when pumps had both leaded and unleaded gas, at two different prices. The unleaded was higher than the leaded.
    I asked a pump jockey why. He said the unleaded was higher because they had to take the lead out. I asked wasn't lead an additive and he said yes, they put the lead in then had to take it out which made it cost more.
    Sounded reasonable to me.

    There are 3 grades of gasoline...regular, mid-level, and
    high-test...all determined by the octane in each.

    And the vast majority of care engines are now made (have for many years) to run just fine on regular, 87 octane.
    Very few cars (and those are on the tippy top end), need more than 87.

    I wish there was a National Regulation saying that the Sign showing the
    Price of Gasoline had to be a different color Sign for places that don't
    sell 100% Gasoline.

    Ever since I can remember, the gas has always had 9/10 of a cent per gallon (i.e. 2.49.9). Why don't they just round if off to $2.50??

    Psychology.
    The same as selling something for .99 rather than a dollar because people think they are getting a bargain.
    And that began as a "temporary" tax of 1 cent a gallon by the government in the early '30s. The tax was listed as 9/10th so people were more accepting of it since they didn't think they weren't paying a whole penny in tax, only a part of a penny.

    The Ethanol markings on the pump usually are on the side

    I don't like using ethanol simply because we are using a food product (corn) to power our cars. We are burning food to go to the store to buy more food.
    I had a 1970 Chrysler that hated unleaded gas. It had a bad case of run on when the engine was shut off. Surprisingly it did run well on ethanol. At the
    time (early to mid 80s) there were only a very few places that sold it.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Thu Mar 8 06:32:50 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    IMO they are more a means for the company to track what the holder
    buys than anything else.

    Probably so. But, with doing all the driving, shopping, etc. for my
    Mom who'll be 92 this fall, the main thing I get for her is Nestle's
    Quick Chocolate milk in the plastic bottles. She doesn't eat much
    anymore, but drinks a lot of that.

    This tracking is to find out what Joe and Jane Blow buy. Tracking sales of products in general (X amount of this or that were sold and doing well, but Y isn't moving so we might drop it) is one thing. Now they can tell just want products Joe and Jane buy. Micro tracking over macro tracking.

    One time, I went to the store, and they were sold out. So, I told her that "Some moron bought all their stuff out". Then, I paused, and said "Wait a minute...that was me"!! <G>

    No comment... :)

    I only have a debit card

    I had credit problems once myself. Never filed chapter 11, but it did take a
    while to pay that off. Since then the I've been debt free.
    While I have a credit card the limit is only $200 (I have more than that in savings which I can transfer to chequing any time I need the money) I only use it occasionally to keep it active. Its more of a fall back than anything.
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ED VANCE on Thu Mar 8 09:39:00 2018
    Ed,

    Howdy! Darly,

    I'm Darly only when I dance the girls part at a square dance. <G>

    No, not Leaded Regular Gasoline, I thought that You wouldn't had thought EV>I was talking about Leaded Gas since Stations only sell Unleaded Gas and EV>Unleaded Gas mixed with ethanol.

    I had thought about "leaded gas", but to my knowledge, that was
    eliminated long ago.

    Someone wrote some time ago that the Ethanol/Alcohol will mix with any EV>Water in the gas tank and pick up any rust in the tank too, causing the EV>Fuel Filter to clog up.

    I know that in cold weather, if you don't have the tank at least half
    full, ice can build up in the tank, and mess things up.

    Your Mileage May Vary.

    It will if the fuel filter clogs. :P

    I read an article (iirc) about a Diesel Fire Engine traveling from the U.S. EV>South Bound to be delivered almost to the very end of South America.

    The people driving it stopped at restrauants(sp?) along the way if they EV>couldn't locate a service station selling Diesel Fuel.

    Interesting.

    That .9 is another subject, I was writing about a regulation for Unleaded EV>Gasoline Stations and Stations selling Unleaded Gasoline with Ethanol added.

    Someone else said "that's the gas tax". That .9 is been there ever
    since I can remember...over 50 years.

    To Me 100% Gasoline doesn't have the additive called Ethanol in it, even EV>now when Gasoline is Unleaded.

    Agreed. Why do we have to destroy the corn that could feed a bunch of
    folks, just so we can run the cars?? Personally, I can't eat corn or
    cole slaw anymore...my digestive tract won't handle it.

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    Gathered by diligent research...or QWK Reader thievery. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Mar 8 09:48:00 2018
    Joe,

    Remember when pumps had both leaded and unleaded gas, at two different
    prices. The unleaded was higher than the leaded.
    I asked a pump jockey why. He said the unleaded was higher because they h
    to take the lead out. I asked wasn't lead an additive and he said yes, they JM>put the lead in then had to take it out which made it cost more.
    Sounded reasonable to me.

    Took a minute to process the data on that one...must be too early in
    the day for me. <G>

    And the vast majority of care engines are now made (have for many years) t
    run just fine on regular, 87 octane.
    Very few cars (and those are on the tippy top end), need more than 87.

    That's what I run on. My late father had a 1963 Volkswagen...but it
    had to have high-test.

    The same as selling something for .99 rather than a dollar because people
    think they are getting a bargain.
    And that began as a "temporary" tax of 1 cent a gallon by the government i
    the early '30s. The tax was listed as 9/10th so people were more accepting JM>it since they didn't think they weren't paying a whole penny in tax, only a JM>part of a penny.

    Sounds like "45 cents each or 2 for $1" -- folks will want the 2 for
    $1, thinking they're getting a better deal. :P Or one instance, where
    this store sold 3 loaves of bread for a dollar. Yet, my late father only
    wanted one loaf. Neither the cashier or manager could figure out to just
    charge my Dad 33 or 34 cents for it -- he was furious!!

    I don't like using ethanol simply because we are using a food product (cor
    to power our cars. We are burning food to go to the store to buy more food.

    Exactly. Even though I can't eat corn anymore (my digestive tract
    won't tolerate it), you're still depriving food from many people.

    I had a 1970 Chrysler that hated unleaded gas. It had a bad case of run o
    when the engine was shut off. Surprisingly it did run well on ethanol. At JM>time (early to mid 80s) there were only a very few places that sold it.

    Wow.

    I was typing at some fellow ham radio operators earlier today, and the subject came across as "Ethyl" -- high-test at the gas station. Then, I mentioned lots of long gone brands...such as American, Amoco, Texaco,
    Gulf, Sinclair, BP, DX, Fina, Chevron, Standard Oil, and Mobil...among
    others.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Mar 8 09:49:00 2018
    Joe,

    This tracking is to find out what Joe and Jane Blow buy. Tracking sales
    products in general (X amount of this or that were sold and doing well, but JM>isn't moving so we might drop it) is one thing. Now they can tell just want JM>products Joe and Jane buy. Micro tracking over macro tracking.

    I can understand inventory tracking...but tracking what each person
    buys is a bit invasive on privacy.

    -a One time, I went to the store, and they were sold out. So, I told h that "Some moron bought all their stuff out". Then, I paused, and said "Wait a minute...that was me"!! <G>

    No comment... :)

    You're a smart moderator. :)

    While I have a credit card the limit is only $200 (I have more than that i
    savings which I can transfer to chequing any time I need the money) I only u JM>it occasionally to keep it active. Its more of a fall back than anything.

    I just felt I didn't have enough income to afford having one, so I
    never did rebuild my credit.

    Daryl

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to joe mackey on Thu Mar 8 12:15:00 2018
    03-08-18 06:24 joe mackey wrote to Daryl Stout about Gas prices (was: Re: Hard Howdy! Joe,

    @MSGID: <5AA15E2A.19959.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    @REPLY: <5AA05D7C.19954.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Daryl wrote --
    -snip-
    .. Ever since I can remember, the gas has always had 9/10 of a cent per gallon (i.e. 2.49.9). Why don't they just round if off to $2.50??

    Psychology.
    The same as selling something for .99 rather than a dollar because people think they are getting a bargain.
    And that began as a "temporary" tax of 1 cent a gallon by the
    government in the early '30s. The tax was listed as 9/10th so people
    were more accepting of it since they didn't think they weren't paying a whole penny in tax, only a part of a penny.

    I was driving back from California and somewhere in the middle of the U.S.A. where I got gas the pump price didn't end with .9 but .2.
    I asked and was told it was a local tax added to the price.

    The Ethanol markings on the pump usually are on the side

    I don't like using ethanol simply because we are using a food product (corn) to power our cars. We are burning food to go to the store to
    buy more food.

    I agree.


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Thu Mar 8 20:25:00 2018
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 03-03-18 02:18 <=-

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us
    never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>

    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ALEXANDER SUVOROV on Thu Mar 8 20:28:00 2018
    Quoting Alexander Suvorov to Nancy Backus on 03-05-18 09:37 <=-

    02 Mar 18 20:57, NANCY BACKUS wrote ALEXANDER SUVOROV:
    Over the years, I've noticed a few people from Russia and vicinity
    posting in various echoes... most of those that stayed around did have
    a better grasp of the language as you indicate... :) There were
    always a few that would come, and then decide it was too hard to
    communicate...
    I think "few" is a key word here :) Most of the people just stick to
    the russian echoes and don't even bother to try english ones.

    Granted... and to some extent it is understandable... :) I'd not likely
    try to post in a french-speaking echo, although I have a little
    knowledge of french... :)

    Exactly the same here, in russian-speaking Fido :( In the 90's it
    was a living-breathing place. Something was always happening in
    almost every echo. Nowadays it feels more like a museum of an old
    technology.
    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :)
    Which, sadly, happens not a lot today :(

    You'll just have to stick around here, and help be part of the
    solution.. ;)

    Some of us never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    Well, thank you! Really, because of you Fido _still_ exists despite of everything! :)

    Well... that WAS part of my reasoning for sticking around... if I left,
    I was only helping the demise... so I decided to stick around as long as
    there was anything to stick around for... And now some people that left
    are coming back, to see that there is still something here... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Mar 8 20:38:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-05-18 06:57 <=-

    Well, maybe that. But I think it's more because of quite a few people
    here *actually* speak english well enough.
    Over the years, I've noticed a few people from Russia and vicinity
    posting in various echoes

    In the late '90s I had a middle aged neighbour, can't recall her
    name, who was from Russia attending Marshall University here in the teaching program. Her English was very good, only a very slight
    accent. She was only here about a year or so.

    Probably those who come over here learn the English better... When I
    was in college the Frau Professor for German was from the Ukraine... She
    spoke probably a dozen languages, fluently... I know for a fact she
    spoke Ukrainian, Russian, German, French, and English... Her husband
    taught in the Physics Department... :)

    Exactly the same here, in russian-speaking Fido
    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us never
    left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    IMHO people left Fido for the wider web in general.

    True, lots of people did... And some of those are coming back, surprised
    that we are still here... :)

    But it is nice when someone new drops in. :)

    Absolutely... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Fri Mar 9 07:04:07 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    put the lead in then had to take it out which made it cost more.
    Sounded reasonable to me.

    Took a minute to process the data on that one...must be too early in the day for me. <G>

    I don't know if he were telling the truth or making up a story but it sure sounded like something that would/could be done.

    Very few cars (and those are on the tippy top end), need more than 87.

    That's what I run on. My late father had a 1963 Volkswagen...but it
    had to have high-test.

    Never knew Bugs needed hi-test.

    it since they didn't think they weren't paying a whole penny in tax,
    only a part of a penny.

    Sounds like "45 cents each or 2 for $1" -- folks will want the 2 for $1, thinking they're getting a better deal. :P

    That's for sure. ==sigh==

    wanted one loaf. Neither the cashier or manager could figure out to just charge my Dad 33 or 34 cents for it -- he was furious!!

    Many cashiers can't make change like the old days.
    They just hand back what the machine says and that is usually just a wad of coins and/or bills.
    I was always taught to have the bill on the register in plain sight and count
    the change back to the customer. Once that was done the cash was put in the till and the drawer closed.
    If a customer said I gave you a 10 you could show them the 5 they handed the cashier. Now whatever bill they are given is put in the drawer first. Maybe a
    safety precaution I don't know.
    And so many people today can't do simple math in their head, they have to use
    a calculator.
    One time I worked with a fella who dealt with figures all day. Long lists of
    figures, maybe 20 lines or more at a time. He used an adding machine first then then added all that up in his head. I asked why. He said he did in it his head to make sure the adding machine was right. :)

    I was typing at some fellow ham radio operators earlier today, and the subject came across as "Ethyl" -- high-test at the gas station. Then, I mentioned lots of long gone brands...such as American, Amoco, Texaco, Gulf, Sinclair, BP, DX, Fina, Chevron, Standard Oil, and Mobil...among others.

    Buy outs, out of business, etc.
    BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.
    I don't have a car and only buy gas on the rare occasions I rent a car, maybe
    once every five or 10 years.
    The old gas station/mechanic that was once on nearly every corner are gone. Giant convenience businesses have replaced them.
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Fri Mar 9 07:07:28 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Now they can tell just want products Joe and Jane buy. Micro tracking
    over macro tracking.

    I can understand inventory tracking...but tracking what each person buys is a bit invasive on privacy.

    Exactly.

    that "Some moron bought all their stuff out". Then, I paused,
    and said
    "Wait a minute...that was me"!! <G>

    No comment... :)

    You're a smart moderator. :)

    It took more than just graft and corruption to get this highly vaulted position. :)
    Joe


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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri Mar 9 07:12:14 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    NB>>> But it's livened up when people do come and post... :)
    AS>> Which, sadly, happens not a lot today :(

    You'll just have to stick around here, and help be part of the
    solution.. ;)

    Yeah, what Nancy said. :)

    Well... that WAS part of my reasoning for sticking around... if I left,
    I was only helping the demise... so I decided to stick around as long as there was anything to stick around for... And now some people that left are coming back, to see that there is still something here... :)

    Since I've retired I've found others are finding more and more things for me to do, since I being retired I have "nothing to do". So sometimes my drop ins are not every day as in the past. Usually like four times a week.
    But I do read all the posts made in my absence.
    (Some days that doesn't take very long...)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Mar 9 09:37:00 2018
    Joe,

    -a That's what I run on. My late father had a 1963 Volkswagen...but it had to have high-test.

    Never knew Bugs needed hi-test.

    It didn't originally...but in the last 10 years or so before my Dad's
    death, he had to use high test in it. I also saw where VW is "killing
    off the Beetle".

    Many cashiers can't make change like the old days.
    They just hand back what the machine says and that is usually just a wad o
    coins and/or bills.

    I was cashier at 2 area Burger Kings for 5 years nearly 40 years
    ago...and I could work a lot of stuff in my head. The others needed a calculator there, if the registers quit working.

    I was always taught to have the bill on the register in plain sight and co
    the change back to the customer. Once that was done the cash was put in the JM>till and the drawer closed.

    Excactly.

    If a customer said I gave you a 10 you could show them the 5 they handed t
    cashier. Now whatever bill they are given is put in the drawer first. Mayb JM>safety precaution I don't know.

    Unfortunately, there are folks that'll try to "pull a fast one".

    And so many people today can't do simple math in their head, they have to
    a calculator.

    Just like the co-workers at Burger King years ago.

    One time I worked with a fella who dealt with figures all day. Long lists
    figures, maybe 20 lines or more at a time. He used an adding machine first JM>then then added all that up in his head. I asked why. He said he did in it JM>his head to make sure the adding machine was right. :)

    My late father was a comptroller/account at Swift And Company, a meat processing firm. They have long since been absorbed by ConAgra. But, he
    was a whiz with math and figuring. I'll never be as good as he was, but
    I'm sure I'm a lot better than most of these kids nowadays, who run out
    of space with 10 fingers and 10 toes. :P

    Buy outs, out of business, etc.
    BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.

    Not in central Arkansas...at least not in Pulaski County.

    I don't have a car and only buy gas on the rare occasions I rent a car, ma
    once every five or 10 years.
    The old gas station/mechanic that was once on nearly every corner are gone
    Giant convenience businesses have replaced them.

    Yep. You rarely find a FULL SERVICE station anymore...with either that
    as their ONLY offering, or beside the SELF SERVICE pumps. Most of these
    don't even do auto repairs anymore.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Mar 9 09:38:00 2018
    Joe,

    -a You're a smart moderator. :)

    It took more than just graft and corruption to get this highly vaulted
    position. :)

    So, you're going into politics now?? <g,d,r>

    Daryl

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri Mar 9 16:32:00 2018
    03-08-18 20:25 NANCY BACKUS wrote to DARYL STOUT about Re: Hard labour
    Howdy! Nancy,

    @MSGID: <5AA26950.19965.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 03-03-18 02:18 <=-

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us
    never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)

    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>

    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)

    Its not semi- its ir- .


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ED VANCE on Fri Mar 9 22:33:00 2018
    Ed,

    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)

    Its not semi- its ir- .

    That's only when we need to prune bad users...you hardly qualify as
    such. :)

    I was joking around on D-Star before a net tonight, with a fellow ham
    radio operator...and this other ham said "You two need to take your prescription medicine right now" <G>.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Mar 12 19:45:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Daryl Stout on 03-09-18 07:04 <=-

    Very few cars (and those are on the tippy top end), need more than 87.
    That's what I run on. My late father had a 1963 Volkswagen...but it
    had to have high-test.

    Never knew Bugs needed hi-test.

    Must have been souped up after the fact....

    Many cashiers can't make change like the old days.
    They just hand back what the machine says and that is usually just a
    wad of coins and/or bills.
    I was always taught to have the bill on the register in plain sight
    and count the change back to the customer. Once that was done the cash was put in the till and the drawer closed.
    If a customer said I gave you a 10 you could show them the 5 they
    handed the cashier. Now whatever bill they are given is put in the
    drawer first. Maybe a safety precaution I don't know.

    Could be... maybe a worry that someone might snatch the bill that is
    sitting there...

    And so many people today can't do simple math in their head, they
    have to use a calculator.
    One time I worked with a fella who dealt with figures all day. Long
    lists of figures, maybe 20 lines or more at a time. He used an adding machine first then then added all that up in his head. I asked why.
    He said he did in it his head to make sure the adding machine was
    right. :)

    Meanwhile he was keeping his brain fit... ;)

    I was typing at some fellow ham radio operators earlier today, and the
    subject came across as "Ethyl" -- high-test at the gas station. Then, I
    mentioned lots of long gone brands...such as American, Amoco, Texaco,
    Gulf, Sinclair, BP, DX, Fina, Chevron, Standard Oil, and Mobil...among
    others.

    Buy outs, out of business, etc.
    BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.

    Amoco is still around, as is Gulf, Chevron, BP and Mobil... Standard Oil
    is now Exxon (having been Esso for a while)... I think Texaco is also
    still around somewhere... They aren't in all states, but one can find
    them when traveling.. Hess got bought out by Speedway recently....

    I don't have a car and only buy gas on the rare occasions I rent a
    car, maybe once every five or 10 years.
    The old gas station/mechanic that was once on nearly every corner
    are gone. Giant convenience businesses have replaced them.

    Or drugstores... or donut/coffee shops... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Mar 12 19:57:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-09-18 07:12 <=-

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :)
    Which, sadly, happens not a lot today :(
    You'll just have to stick around here, and help be part of the
    solution... ;)

    Yeah, what Nancy said. :)

    Just gotta keep our circle lively... :)

    Well... that WAS part of my reasoning for sticking around... if I
    left, I was only helping the demise... so I decided to stick around
    as long as there was anything to stick around for... And now some
    people that left are coming back, to see that there is still
    something here... :)

    Since I've retired I've found others are finding more and more
    things for me to do, since I being retired I have "nothing to do".

    Yeah... funny how people get that idea... ;)

    So sometimes my drop ins are not every day as in the past. Usually
    like four times a week. But I do read all the posts made in my
    absence. (Some days that doesn't take very long...)

    I'm downloading everyday (with a few exceptions, like when I'm away),
    and reading that day... but only get to the posting probably about four
    times a week, too... depends on how crazy a day gets... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ED VANCE on Mon Mar 12 20:08:00 2018
    Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 03-09-18 16:37 <=-

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us
    never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>
    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)

    Its not semi- its ir- .

    Close enough to the same thing.... ;) Now... just be a little less
    Irregular, and keep up your posting... ;)

    ... My best pigeon dodged hawks and farmer's guns to bring you this.

    Blessings on your pigeon... hope it got home safely... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Mar 14 06:31:09 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    JM>> He said he did in it his head to make sure the adding machine was
    JM>> right. :)

    Meanwhile he was keeping his brain fit... ;)

    No doubt. :)

    JM>> BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.

    Amoco is still around, as is Gulf, Chevron, BP and Mobil... Standard Oil is now Exxon (having been Esso for a while)

    Old Man Rockefeller started Standard which was broken up as a monopoly by the
    feds in the early 1900s. It then became Standard East and Standard West, or something like that with Esso in the east and something similar in the west. The re-merged or something in the early '70s and became Exxon. I think the Esso is still in use overseas.
    Its all rather confusing to me.

    I think Texaco is also still around somewhere... They aren't in all
    states,
    but one can find them when traveling..

    I think they are mostly west of the Mississippi now.

    JM>> The old gas station/mechanic that was once on nearly every corner
    JM>> are gone. Giant convenience businesses have replaced them.

    Or drugstores... or donut/coffee shops... ;)

    There seems to be a coffee shop on every corner around here. Most are local places which try to be Starbuck knock offs. They offer the same product with different names. I don't know how one could patent a combination of coffee, creme and host of odd things.
    Joe (who like his plain black)


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  • From Alexander Suvorov@2:5030/722.68 to joe mackey on Wed Mar 14 13:09:32 2018
    Greetings, joe!

    09 Mar 18 07:04, joe mackey wrote Daryl Stout:
    gas station. Then, I mentioned lots of long gone brands...such as
    American, Amoco, Texaco, Gulf, Sinclair, BP, DX, Fina, Chevron,
    Standard Oil, and Mobil...among others.
    Buy outs, out of business, etc.
    BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.
    BP has it's gas stations here, Mobil never had it's gas stations, but always sold and still sells it's motor oil, same for Chevron.. alghough I'm not sure about whether there's it's oil now. Other brands never were here, only saw them
    in the movies :)

    Best regards, Alexander.

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Sat Mar 17 19:52:00 2018
    03-12-18 20:08 NANCY BACKUS wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Hard labour
    Howdy! Nancy,

    @MSGID: <5AA8550A.19987.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 03-09-18 16:37 <=-

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us
    never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>
    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)

    Its not semi- its ir- .

    Close enough to the same thing.... ;) Now... just be a little less Irregular, and keep up your posting... ;)

    Sometimes the Richochet Rabbit Syndrome grabs hold of me.

    BING ... BING ... BING ... ZOOM!

    ... My best pigeon dodged hawks and farmer's guns to bring you this.

    Blessings on your pigeon... hope it got home safely... ;)
    Thanks, the Tagline is still in the file.

    ... A little knowledge can be dangerous, the lack thereof, devastating.

    AMEN! to that!


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to ED VANCE on Sun Mar 18 22:00:00 2018
    Ed,

    Sometimes the Richochet Rabbit Syndrome grabs hold of me.

    BING ... BING ... BING ... ZOOM!

    Loved that cartoon. :)

    ... Customer at bookstore: "Where do you keep the large-print audio books?"

    In a word, really. :P

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Mon Mar 19 21:09:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 03-14-18 06:31 <=-

    He said he did in it his head to make sure the adding machine was
    right. :)
    Meanwhile he was keeping his brain fit... ;)

    No doubt. :)

    I like to do the math myself, too... but I do it first, and then check
    the answer with the calculator... :) And I mostly use pencil and
    paper, not strictly in my head, for most things...

    BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.
    Amoco is still around, as is Gulf, Chevron, BP and Mobil... Standard
    Oil is now Exxon (having been Esso for a while)

    Old Man Rockefeller started Standard which was broken up as a
    monopoly by the feds in the early 1900s. It then became Standard East
    and Standard West, or something like that with Esso in the east and something similar in the west. The re-merged or something in the early '70s and became Exxon. I think the Esso is still in use overseas.
    Its all rather confusing to me.

    Not a surprise... mergers and splits can make anything confusing... I
    think you are right about Esso being in use overseas... and possibly
    also in Canada... :) Exxon has now merged with Mobil to become
    ExxonMobil... their card can be used at either iteration...


    I think Texaco is also still around somewhere... They aren't in all
    states, but one can find them when traveling..

    I think they are mostly west of the Mississippi now.

    That could be...

    The old gas station/mechanic that was once on nearly every corner
    are gone. Giant convenience businesses have replaced them.
    Or drugstores... or donut/coffee shops... ;)

    There seems to be a coffee shop on every corner around here. Most
    are local places which try to be Starbuck knock offs. They offer the
    same product with different names. I don't know how one could patent a combination of coffee, creme and host of odd things.

    I think all they can patent/copyright are the names they give the coffee drinks....

    Joe (who like his plain black)

    Richard does too... and doesn't like the flavored coffees either... I, unfortunately, am allergic to coffee... found out back in the late
    '70s... But before then, I also preferred mine black... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ALEXANDER SUVOROV on Mon Mar 19 21:33:00 2018
    Quoting Alexander Suvorov to Joe Mackey on 03-14-18 13:09 <=-

    09 Mar 18 07:04, joe mackey wrote Daryl Stout:
    gas station. Then, I mentioned lots of long gone brands...such as
    American, Amoco, Texaco, Gulf, Sinclair, BP, DX, Fina, Chevron,
    Standard Oil, and Mobil...among others.
    Buy outs, out of business, etc.
    BP is still around. I think Chevron is as well.
    BP has it's gas stations here,

    That's not too surprising, since it stands for British Petroleum...
    almost more surprising that we have BP in the states... ;)

    Mobil never had it's gas stations, but
    always sold and still sells it's motor oil, same for Chevron.. alghough I'm not sure about whether there's it's oil now. Other brands never
    were here, only saw them in the movies :)

    We do have Mobil stations here, and also can buy Mobil oil in stores...
    I don't recall seeing Chevron oil in the stores, but then I wasn't
    looking for it particularly... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ED VANCE on Thu Mar 22 20:56:00 2018
    Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 03-17-18 19:56 <=-

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us
    never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>
    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)
    Its not semi- its ir- .
    Close enough to the same thing.... ;) Now... just be a little less
    Irregular, and keep up your posting... ;)

    Sometimes the Richochet Rabbit Syndrome grabs hold of me.
    BING ... BING ... BING ... ZOOM!

    Now, just ZOOM yourself back... ;)

    ... My best pigeon dodged hawks and farmer's guns to bring you this.
    Blessings on your pigeon... hope it got home safely... ;)
    Thanks, the Tagline is still in the file.

    :)

    ... A little knowledge can be dangerous, the lack thereof, devastating.

    AMEN! to that!

    That's more truth than wit/joke...

    ttyl neb

    ... Just bring me my chocolate, and s-l-o-w-l-y back away.

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  • From Ed Vance@1:2320/105 to NANCY BACKUS on Sat Mar 24 10:01:00 2018
    03-22-18 20:56 NANCY BACKUS wrote to ED VANCE about Re: Hard labour

    @MSGID: <5AB4D05A.20015.memoryln@capitolcityonline.net>
    Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 03-17-18 19:56 <=-
    Howdy! Nancy,

    But it's livened up when people do come and post... :) Some of us
    never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>
    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)
    Its not semi- its ir- .
    Close enough to the same thing.... ;) Now... just be a little less
    Irregular, and keep up your posting... ;)

    Sometimes the Richochet Rabbit Syndrome grabs hold of me.
    BING ... BING ... BING ... ZOOM!

    Now, just ZOOM yourself back... ;)

    I have been lurking using the Hop, Skip, Jump method but when I saw You write 'My Name' in that message I felt I needed to send a Reply to let You know
    I still look at messages in Memorylane.


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to ED VANCE on Thu Mar 29 13:54:00 2018
    Quoting Ed Vance to Nancy Backus on 03-24-18 10:05 <=-

    Some of us never left, just kept the stove going.... ;)
    You, Joe, and myself, mostly. <G>
    A few others, semi-regularly... like Ed Vance... :)
    Its not semi- its ir- .
    Close enough to the same thing.... ;) Now... just be a little less
    Irregular, and keep up your posting... ;)
    Sometimes the Richochet Rabbit Syndrome grabs hold of me.
    BING ... BING ... BING ... ZOOM!
    Now, just ZOOM yourself back... ;)

    I have been lurking using the Hop, Skip, Jump method but when I saw
    You write 'My Name' in that message I felt I needed to send a Reply to
    let You know I still look at messages in Memorylane.

    I rather expected that... ;) But, it certainly would be nice for you to
    do more than just lurking... :) Now, if that method would get Bob
    Breed back in here... I wonder what he's up to... or if he's even still
    around anywhere...

    ttyl neb

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