Nancy wrote --

I hope the super is right... and that the landlord really does follow
thru with properly taking care of the roof.... It should save him money
and hassle eventually... :)

Its something that needs to be done.
This isn't a huge metropolis and word gets around "Don't rent from X"
for any number of reasons.

Did you get your skylight back, once they figured out that covering it
didn't solve the problem....?

Nope.

... Oh, no! Not *ANOTHER* learning experience.

The story of my life. LOL
Joe


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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 10-20-18 07:02 <=-

I hope the super is right... and that the landlord really does follow
thru with properly taking care of the roof.... It should save him money
and hassle eventually... :)

Its something that needs to be done.
This isn't a huge metropolis and word gets around "Don't rent from
X" for any number of reasons.

So it would be to his benefit to properly take care of things... :) Has
there been any movement in that direction yet...?

Did you get your skylight back, once they figured out that covering it didn't solve the problem....?

Nope.

Maybe you'll get it back if they take off the roll roofing and go back
to tarring the roof....?

... Oh, no! Not *ANOTHER* learning experience.

The story of my life. LOL

Yeah... mine too.... ;)

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Nancy wrote --

This isn't a huge metropolis and word gets around "Don't rent from
X" for any number of reasons.

So it would be to his benefit to properly take care of things... :)

Has there been any movement in that direction yet...?

None that I am aware of.
When he first bought these two properties (two separate
buildings,joined at the back by common stairs, "buy one get two" as one landlord joked) he spent a ton of money remodeling the other building, combining two apartments into one large one. But that hasn't worked out
as he planned. Many of those units are empty. He wanted twice as much
for them and made them all electric, so he wouldn't have to pay for the
gas. (Gas and water included in that rent before, as is mine).
A neighbours living room ceiling literally fell down due to leaks and
took him a couple of months to repair that. Meanwhile the guy lived with
a big hole in the ceiling.
The landlord also owns a lot of other property in town. Buy cheap,
make some cosmetic repairs and rent them out.
Joe
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 10-23-18 07:50 <=-

This isn't a huge metropolis and word gets around "Don't rent from
X" for any number of reasons.

So it would be to his benefit to properly take care of things... :)
Has there been any movement in that direction yet...?

None that I am aware of.

Sigh.

When he first bought these two properties (two separate
buildings,joined at the back by common stairs, "buy one get two" as
one landlord joked) he spent a ton of money remodeling the other
building, combining two apartments into one large one. But that hasn't worked out as he planned. Many of those units are empty. He wanted
twice as much for them and made them all electric, so he wouldn't have
to pay for the gas. (Gas and water included in that rent before, as is mine).

He made some pretty wrong presumptions there... not really paying
attention to the market, at the very least.... and expecting that
tenants would be happy to take over more of the utility bill....

A neighbours living room ceiling literally fell down due to
leaks and took him a couple of months to repair that. Meanwhile the
guy lived with a big hole in the ceiling.

I'm surprised the guy didn't just move out with that sort of neglect...
or take the landlord to court to get relief....

The landlord also owns a lot of other property in town. Buy cheap,
make some cosmetic repairs and rent them out.

"Don't rent from X" would definitely seem to apply here....

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Nancy wrote --

he spent a ton of money remodeling the other building, combining

two apartments into one large one. But that hasn't worked out as he
planned. Many of those units are empty.

He made some pretty wrong presumptions there... not really paying
attention to the market, at the very least

The property around here is rented mostly to students from the
university. Many building in town were converted from commercial to residential since over the years businesses have fled from the town centre.
There is already a glut of apartments renting for $1k a month that sit
empty.
While the ones in this building aren't that high, the landlord, in his wisdom, told me one day "Places like this rent for much more in NY(C)."
I said something about this this not being NY(C). :)
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Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 10-25-18 07:01 <=-

he spent a ton of money remodeling the other building, combining
two apartments into one large one. But that hasn't worked out
as he planned. Many of those units are empty.

He made some pretty wrong presumptions there... not really paying attention to the market, at the very least

The property around here is rented mostly to students from the
university. Many building in town were converted from commercial to residential since over the years businesses have fled from the town centre. There is already a glut of apartments renting for $1k a
month that sit empty.

And obviously students need lower rents than that, to be able to afford
the apartments, unless they are filling it to split the costs.... ;)

While the ones in this building aren't that high, the landlord, in
his wisdom, told me one day "Places like this rent for much more in NY(C)." I said something about this this not being NY(C). :)

Indeed.... It certainly isn't NYC, and rents are exorbitant there,
unless you are protected by the long-term no-increase clause.... If he
wants that sort of rents, he should be a landlord there, not in WV... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

And obviously students need lower rents than that, to be able to afford NB>the apartments, unless they are filling it to split the costs.... ;)

I was so shocked a few years ago, at the local college fall campus picnic...named BBQ at Bailey's. A local BBQ restaurant catered a deal at
the Bailey Alumni Center, at the University Of Arkansas At Little Rock
campus. It's held the second week of September, just after Labor Day,
and it's like a "welcome back" to faculty, staff, and students".

When I attended it from 1978 to 1983, it was strictly a commuter
campus...no dorms or parking decks...the latter are on the campus now.
Back then, I paid per semester (fall and spring...didn't attend summer
classes) $400 tuition, $100 for books, and for the year, a $20 parking
fee. I lived at home, but worked at Burger King while I was in school,
putting myself through college.

In talking with students 40 years younger than me, they lamented "I
wish it was that for us". I asked what they paid, and when they said
"over $10,000" (not sure if it was semester or year), I felt like Fred Sanford..."It's the big one, Mabel!!". I asked why, and they said
"Dorms"...I replied, "That'll do it".

Indeed.... It certainly isn't NYC, and rents are exorbitant there,
unless you are protected by the long-term no-increase clause.... If he NB>wants that sort of rents, he should be a landlord there, not in WV... :)

Well, with moving back to my Mom's place, the money I was paying in
rent can now go to other bills.

Daryl

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Daryl wrote --

When I attended it from 1978 to 1983, it was strictly a commuter
campus

I was lucky I never lived in a dorm.
My first two years were at community/junior colleges and the same
thing. Most of the students were locals with a few from elsewhere.
When I transferred after graduating a community college to WVU I lived
in an apartment. The better ones were "handed down" by graduating
seniors. A lot of places there were rat holes. No wait, I take that
back. Its not fair to rats.

In talking with students 40 years younger than me, they lamented "I
wish it was that for us". I asked what they paid, and when they said
"over $10,000" (not sure if it was semester or year), I felt like Fred Sanford..."It's the big one, Mabel!!". I asked why, and they said
"Dorms"...I replied, "That'll do it".

Unless one lives within something like 50 miles (and those are
considered commuters) ALL freshmen live in dorms. And ALL freshman must
move in a week before classes. So for the first four days only freshmen
are on campus for various activities. The official policy is to form a community so the freshmen can adjust to college life. I think its to
keep them from getting into mischief when they are first on their own.
They are so tired after tramping all over the place all day to get into trouble.
I always joke there are three emotions at move in.
The mother is crying "My baby is leaving home" boo-hoo-hoo.
The father is looking at his watch saying "Come on, its getting late,
we gotta get on the road".
The kids are thinking, "Yeah, the 'rents are gone! Let's party!!"
Joe
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Re: Re: Roof
By: JOE MACKEY to DARYL STOUT on Wed Oct 31 2018 05:58 am

My first two years were at community/junior colleges and the same
thing. Most of the students were locals with a few from elsewhere.
When I transferred after graduating a community college to WVU I lived
in an apartment. The better ones were "handed down" by graduating
seniors. A lot of places there were rat holes. No wait, I take that
back. Its not fair to rats.

I just found out that my local college (UC Santa Cruz) has trailer parking
with amenities on campus, and that students would live in a trailer for their term there, then sell the trailer to the next person. There are 30 year old trailers that have been lived in full time and maintained by the students. The mind boggles.

Looks like they're planning on developing the land...

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Joe,

I was lucky I never lived in a dorm.

I never did, either.

My first two years were at community/junior colleges and the same
thing. Most of the students were locals with a few from elsewhere.
When I transferred after graduating a community college to WVU I lived
in an apartment. The better ones were "handed down" by graduating JM>seniors. A lot of places there were rat holes. No wait, I take that JM>back. Its not fair to rats.

One time in one of the dorms, users were tossing a ball or doing
something. It hit the fire sensor on the ceiling (like you see in hotel
rooms), and it set off the fire suppression system, flooding the room,
and summoning the fire department!!

Unless one lives within something like 50 miles (and those are
considered commuters) ALL freshmen live in dorms. And ALL freshman must JM>move in a week before classes. So for the first four days only freshmen JM>are on campus for various activities. The official policy is to form a JM>community so the freshmen can adjust to college life. I think its to JM>keep them from getting into mischief when they are first on their own. JM>They are so tired after tramping all over the place all day to get into JM>trouble.

And, the student athletes especially, seem to find trouble more than
doing what's right (i.e. going to class, keeping their studies up,
staying on the good side of the law, etc.). The late Paul "Bear" Bryant,
of Alabama...basically said "I don't care if he has memorized the
playbook front to back, inside and out, and can do it in his sleep. If
he isn't going to go to class, keep his studies up, do what's right in
practice and sports, and stay out of trouble with the law, I don't want
him". When Nolan Richardson coached the basketball team at the
University Of Arkansas over 20 years ago, one student said "I wasn't
recruited to go to class. I was recruited to play basketball". At that
time, the graduation percentage of student athletes at the University Of Arkansas (the main campus is in Fayetteville), was ZERO!!

I always joke there are three emotions at move in.
The mother is crying "My baby is leaving home" boo-hoo-hoo.
The father is looking at his watch saying "Come on, its getting late,
we gotta get on the road".
The kids are thinking, "Yeah, the 'rents are gone! Let's party!!"

Exactly. From what I understand though, there are routine
"inspections" at the dorms on the local campus.

What's more bizarre that a fellow user on Facebook apparently thought
I was a meteorologist, and wanted information on the severe weather
threat in the region for Halloween. When I told him I wasn't a
meteorologist, he said I should go back to school. I told him that $1100
on disability doesn't go very far...and with my health issues (never
mind all the stuff with my Mom in a nursing home), the only exams I do
now is giving and grading ham radio license exams...and medical exams.

I have to do 2 license exams this month (the last ones for the
year...we don't test in December, due to the holidays), and I see the
female nurse practitioner at Arkansas Urology on the Monday after
Thanksgiving. I don't have any new kidney stones, but may have
Low-T...which can lead to a host of other "male problems". She's going
to have to "get a claim to dig for gold" <G> -- but I'm going to tell
her "if you find any, it's mine". :P

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 10-29-18 17:59 <=-

And obviously students need lower rents than that, to be able to afford
the apartments, unless they are filling it to split the costs.... ;)

I was so shocked a few years ago, at the local college fall campus picnic...named BBQ at Bailey's. A local BBQ restaurant catered a deal
at the Bailey Alumni Center, at the University Of Arkansas At Little
Rock campus. It's held the second week of September, just after Labor
Day, and it's like a "welcome back" to faculty, staff, and students".

Yes, I remember you mentioning that....

When I attended it from 1978 to 1983, it was strictly a commuter campus...no dorms or parking decks...the latter are on the campus now. Back then, I paid per semester (fall and spring...didn't attend summer classes) $400 tuition, $100 for books, and for the year, a $20 parking fee. I lived at home, but worked at Burger King while I was in school, putting myself through college.

Well, that is quite a while ago... and inflation alone would raise
prices quite a bit now...

In talking with students 40 years younger than me, they lamented "I
wish it was that for us". I asked what they paid, and when they said
"over $10,000" (not sure if it was semester or year), I felt like Fred Sanford..."It's the big one, Mabel!!". I asked why, and they said "Dorms"...I replied, "That'll do it".

Yeah... dorms, and the meal plan, do also add to the total cost... often doubling it or more...

Indeed.... It certainly isn't NYC, and rents are exorbitant there,
unless you are protected by the long-term no-increase clause.... If he
wants that sort of rents, he should be a landlord there, not in WV... :)

Well, with moving back to my Mom's place, the money I was paying in
rent can now go to other bills.

That's a good thing... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Well, that is quite a while ago... and inflation alone would raise
prices quite a bit now...

When I worked at Burger King, the price of a Whopper was $1.11 plus
tax. Nowadays, I think it's double or triple that price, or more. Then,
if you get such at a restaurant in an airport, etc., expect to pay more
still.

Yeah... dorms, and the meal plan, do also add to the total cost... often NB>doubling it or more...

I'm just glad I finished school when I did.

That's a good thing... :)

I just wish I had more of it. :P

Daryl

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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 11-02-18 13:09 <=-

Well, that is quite a while ago... and inflation alone would raise
prices quite a bit now...

When I worked at Burger King, the price of a Whopper was $1.11 plus
tax. Nowadays, I think it's double or triple that price, or more.
Then, if you get such at a restaurant in an airport, etc., expect to
pay more still.

Indeed.

Yeah... dorms, and the meal plan, do also add to the total cost...
often doubling it or more...

I'm just glad I finished school when I did.

Yup. Of course, it was long enough ago to make us all old codgers... ;)

ttyl neb

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