• Re: Cars, football and 9/

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Aug 15 18:53:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 08-13-18 07:31 <=-

    There are only two I wished I had held on to, my '53 Chevy and my
    '65 Falcon.
    I started with a new '70 Duster... drove it for 10 years... until it
    died....

    The Chevy was my first car, owned by, really, a little old lady,
    whom I think was as school teacher. Never restored or anything, 15
    years old and looked like it just came off the showroom. The pedals
    had the normal wear and tear, etc.

    Sounds like she took good care of it... :)

    It had a problem with vapor lock and would just stop at times.
    Coast/push it off the road, let it cool off and ok again.
    It had vacuum wipers and in a light rain on the highway they were
    going like like. In city traffic with a pouring rain they barely
    moved. Had to sell that when I went in the Navy.

    Quirks... Your mom couldn't keep it for you while you were in the
    Navy....?

    The Falcon was my second car, when I got out, I think it was part
    Jeep. It would go anywhere, just take it easy. Deserts, mountains in Colorado, dirt roads, etc. I was all over the country in that car.
    And only one of a handful of two doors I had.
    It got some electrical problem (lights would suddenly go out and
    came back on again after a while, regardless of the terrain). Then the battery couldn't hold a charge (and replaced a few times) and no one
    could figure out the problem.
    I finally had to part with it and it was like losing a family
    member, we had been through so much. Good old Red.

    That's how I felt when I had to part with my Duster...

    Today there are security cameras in all the public areas, the street
    doors are locked and need a swipe card, etc.
    Still doesn't keep things from happening, but does deter some, and
    might make it easier to track culprits...

    True.
    Then there the dumb crooks.
    For several months we had a rash of pop machine break ins on campus.
    They would hit and be gone within minutes. The machines take bills
    which are widely used so wasn't like they had a bag of coins to lug around. One time the guys even mugged for the camera!
    They hit the building I am sometimes in on weekends and caught by
    the security officer there. John, who is dead now, was in his late
    60s, only about 5'5' and a gust of wind could blow him away. He caught them in the act and commanded them to hit the floor. One did but the other ran off. The first one sang like a canary and the second caught soon after. The video of them mugging for the camera was some of the
    main evidence. :)

    You'd think they'd've had any sense.... but they probably were just too
    sure they'd never be caught... silly boys (of whatever age).... ;)

    And I am sure once school starts back up in a couple of weeks I'll
    be there every weekend again til May. Along with working the home
    football games. ==sigh==
    You could say no, you know.... ;)

    I could, yes. But its not advisable.
    I have turned down a few posts because I have other things to do.
    Just because I'm retired doesn't mean I sit staring at a wall waiting
    for the phone to ring. :)

    Seems to me that you are in sufficient demand that saying no every so
    often won't interfere with their regular calling to see if you are
    available after all, this time... ;)

    This one group, at the last home game, always has a big steak
    dinner and all the trimmings for me. :)
    Rank (and longevity) hath its privileges... you're probably
    considered one of the family... :)

    They are a friendly bunch anyway. Well, save for this one woman.
    The spaces are numbers and their permit is for a designated spot.
    One day someone parked in this woman's space and long gone by the
    time I got there. No idea who they were or anything.
    This woman wanted me to have that vehicle towed since in her space.
    I suggested she just move over one, which is almost always empty and
    she didn't want to do that, the truck was in HER space and not moving
    over one. I finally got her to move over saying if she did she would
    be four feet closer to the stadium. She thought about that a moment,
    then moved. A lot of security work is PR. :)

    It worked... :)

    One time it rained the whole time. After people leave for the game
    there is always someone who stays behind to watch over the stuff.
    Designated guard, eh...?

    No, each tent has someone who stays with the stuff while the others
    go to the game. Sometimes one person will watch two tents that are
    near each other. That person will often go to the next tent and
    visit, listen to the game, etc.

    That's what I meant... :)

    One group has wifi and a huge tv they set up in the back of their
    Escalde and watch the game. All the home games are narrow cast on Facebook. And the powers that be wonder why people don't attend in bad weather. Hmm, pay a huge amount of money to sit in the cold/rain/snow
    or watch it in the warmth and comfort of home for free on Facebook? Decisions, decisions, decisions...

    Nothing like being there in person... especially in good weather... but
    one needs must be dedicated to want to be there in foul... ;)

    There are tents all over and the tables are covered.
    People have learned how to be well prepared for any contingency, I'm
    sure... :)

    The whole area around the stadium looks like a Bedouin camp with
    tents of all sizes, colours, etc everywhere. Some are open on four
    sides, some three, some are completely enclosed. One group in the
    higher rent district has theirs air conditioned!

    Now that's luxury... ;)

    The last time I got an hour ago request was on 9/11.
    And that WAS a real emergency.... :)

    That was really rough.
    I was on 12 hour shift watching the back fence of a chemical plant,
    which was closed down the first few days. I assume the plant people thought someone was going to come down the Ohio in a boat and break through. I would patrol the area and the only thing I ever saw was a beaver, a couple of deer, a cat, a couple of dogs, etc.
    And being unarmed what I was to do, tell them to go away? I didn't
    even have a radio and cell phones were still years away.

    Other than the wondering if you needed to be there after all, sounds
    relatively cushy, like most of your assignments... :) But they did want
    to have someone live on the premises to watch, I'm sure... :)

    The only radio I had was a small pocket one to keep up on the news.
    I was there about four days and people started to calm down and go
    back to normal.

    I think that the wondering what was really happening and of what might
    be happening was the worst part of that time period...

    One thing I noticed.
    One afternoon I saw the first plane since that day and it seemed so strange. We were in the glide path for the airport.

    Yes... we are in the approach path and just off the takeoff paths
    normally for our airport... The quiet was strange to begin with, and
    then the resumption of flights was strange as well... :) I have a
    friend that makes a point of flying on Sept 11 each year, just to thumb
    his nose at the terrorists... and to make his point that flight is safe enough... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... A new country song: If I'd Shot You Sooner, I'd Be Out of Jail by Now.

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Aug 16 06:34:37 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    JM>> Had to sell that when I went in the Navy.

    Quirks... Your mom couldn't keep it for you while you were in the Navy....?

    I was back in WV and she was still in Colorado.
    My brother had no room for it.

    JM>> I finally had to part with it and it was like losing a family
    JM>> member, we had been through so much. Good old Red.

    That's how I felt when I had to part with my Duster...

    Some people become attached to their vehicles, its part of the family over time.
    Many others think it just being disposable to be replaced on a regular basis.
    My mother was attached to a '55 Mercury (a pair of his and hers) and when my
    father traded of it for a newer car there were a lot of words exchanged. Mostly along the "how dare you!" type.
    He was under the mistaken idea she would like a newer car as a surprise.

    JM>> soon after. The video of them mugging for the camera was some of the
    JM>> main evidence. :)

    You'd think they'd've had any sense.... but they probably were just too sure they'd never be caught... silly boys (of whatever age).... ;)

    I am so used to security cameras on campus I pay them no mind.
    A few years ago they were upgraded to really high tech.
    You know how some outside night time cameras have that sickly green tint? These see through the dark and makes midnight seem like noon.

    JM>> I have turned down a few posts because I have other things to do.

    Seems to me that you are in sufficient demand that saying no every so often won't interfere with their regular calling to see if you are available after all, this time... ;)

    My captain doesn't abuse my retirement, well, very often. And the vast majority of the time I get some cushy post. :)

    NB>>> Rank (and longevity) hath its privileges... you're probably
    NB>>> considered one of the family... :)

    That's what I'm afraid of. :)
    I am one of the early employees of A1, don't know what number but in the single digits. I left one company to go with them when they started so I could
    stay in parking. Except for one or two others I have been with them from the start.
    This is move-in season on campus and I worked Tuesday and my post was near the physical plant and everyone asked "I thought you were retired?" I told them what I tell everyone that Marshall is lost without my guidance, that the parking and police departments doesn't know what to do without me, etc. (Well,
    that's my story anyway and I'm sticking to it!)

    Nothing like being there in person... especially in good weather... but one needs must be dedicated to want to be there in foul... ;)

    I always say Marshall has fair weather fans. If the weather is nice and/or they are winning, people show up. If the weather is bad or they are losing the
    fans are no where to be seen.

    I think that the wondering what was really happening and of what might
    be happening was the worst part of that time period...

    That was when the radio was really important.
    I don't think anyone knew what (if anything) would happen next.

    ... A new country song: If I'd Shot You Sooner, I'd Be Out of Jail by Now.

    And the old western saying after someone was shot, "some folks just need to be being shot". :)
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Aug 16 10:03:00 2018
    Joe,

    I always say Marshall has fair weather fans. If the weather is nice and/o
    they are winning, people show up. If the weather is bad or they are losing JM>fans are no where to be seen.

    That's the case everywhere. Great winners, but sore losers. Yet, they
    riot whether they win or lose. What ever happened to sportsmanship??

    ... A new country song: If I'd Shot You Sooner, I'd Be Out of Jail by N

    And the old western saying after someone was shot, "some folks just need t
    be being shot". :)

    Or, how about this?? From "Disorder In The Court" by Richard Lederer:

    Q: When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
    able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to go
    also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with him to the
    station?

    A: Mr. BROOKS. Objection. That question should be taken out and shot.

    Daryl

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Fri Aug 17 06:31:40 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    they are winning, people show up. If the weather is bad or they are
    losing fans are no where to be seen.

    That's the case everywhere. Great winners, but sore losers. Yet, they riot whether they win or lose. What ever happened to sportsmanship??

    I have never understood that mentality either.
    When I was at WVU in the mid '70s, the students (along with before and after)
    when they won a big game would set old couches on fire in the street and dance around it.
    They never went on a rampage of destruction through nor have we at Marshall (the instate rival of WVU).
    I think the most destructive things done here are a goal post being torn down, but even that is rigged to come down safely.
    I have a funny story about one time.
    I was working a big championship game in the late '90s. Don't recall who were playing but it was when we had Chad Pennington, Randy Moss and a few others on the team.
    I was part of the security working the south end zone, and at the time it was
    just a bank of earth. (Bleachers are there now). There were about 100 security people across the field. City, county, state, Marshall police and security all mixed in together.
    We were told to keep the fans off the field for five minutes after the game.
    Shortly after the start of the fourth quarter people started assembling on the top of this "hill". We were so far ahead the other team didn't have a chance.
    As time passed more and more people appeared until we had five to eight thousand people milling around the end zone area.
    Word was passed down to hold the line for three minutes after the game.
    More people showed up.
    We were told to hold our positions for two minutes after the game.
    There was five minutes on the clock.
    More people appeared, about 10,000 now and just standing there. They looking down the embankment at us, we looking up at them.
    Then ever so slowly they started moving. It seemed as if as one person was a
    tiny baby step toward us and stop. Then another baby step and stop.
    I was beginning to feel like Custer at the Little Big Horn.
    And looking up and down the line thinking "we're gonna stop them? Yeah, right!"
    The baby steps started being longer strides, and stopping.
    With about 30 seconds left a football went sailing through the air over our heads landing in the McDonald's parking lot on the other side of the alley.
    Then suddenly with a whoop the fans hit the field with word coming down the line, passed from person to person "run for your life, save yourself!" as we turned and were swallowed by this flood tide of humanity and in like some movie
    we were literally carried away by them. There were so many if one lost the balance they wouldn't fall.
    Within what seemed like two seconds I was mid field and still being pushed along.
    I saw out the corner of my ear the goalpost being carried away. It looked like it was floating above the crowd, across the field and up a ramp to street level and disappeared.
    We met a pre-determined spot on the north end zone with a state trooper saying, "Well, that went off pretty well". We were all breathing a sigh of relief and laughing.
    One kid, about 12, who I had seen on the embankment, in the first row, suffered a broken leg when he fell and trampled by the crowd who couldn't stop.
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Aug 18 19:11:00 2018
    Joe,

    riot whether they win or lose. What ever happened to sportsmanship??

    I have never understood that mentality either.

    I may never understand that, either.

    I think the most destructive things done here are a goal post being torn
    down, but even that is rigged to come down safely.

    It used to not be...and I think some folks got injured.

    We met a pre-determined spot on the north end zone with a state trooper
    saying, "Well, that went off pretty well". We were all breathing a sigh of JM>relief and laughing.

    Reminds me of a commercial with these 2 bulls, and one was wanting to
    flirt with this cow. One tells the other "be my wing man", as he got
    "tongue tied"...especially when all the cow said was "Hello, boys".
    After the cow left, another bull was heard to say "Well that went rather
    well", while another was licking his chops. :P I don't remember what
    product the commercial was for now.

    One kid, about 12, who I had seen on the embankment, in the first row,
    suffered a broken leg when he fell and trampled by the crowd who couldn't st

    Inertia is a powerful force...just as gravity is.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Aug 18 20:15:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 08-16-18 06:34 <=-

    Had to sell that when I went in the Navy.
    Your mom couldn't keep it for you while you were in the Navy....?

    I was back in WV and she was still in Colorado.
    My brother had no room for it.

    Oh, that is sad....

    I finally had to part with it and it was like losing a family
    member, we had been through so much. Good old Red.
    That's how I felt when I had to part with my Duster...

    Some people become attached to their vehicles, its part of the
    family over time.
    Many others think it just being disposable to be replaced on a
    regular basis.

    Most of our cars have become part of the family... except for the '82
    Aries that had problems from the beginning... we ended up calling it the grapefruit, because it wasn't quite bad enough to be called a lemon...
    just close.... I was glad to replace that with my '89 Shadow... Richard
    drove the Aries for another year or so before it just completely died.

    My mother was attached to a '55 Mercury (a pair of his and hers)
    and when my father traded of it for a newer car there were a lot of
    words exchanged. Mostly along the "how dare you!" type.
    He was under the mistaken idea she would like a newer car as a
    surprise.

    Obviously having it be a surprise was a total mistake... had he asked,
    she could have nixed it before it was too late....

    soon after. The video of them mugging for the camera was some of the
    main evidence. :)
    You'd think they'd've had any sense.... but they probably were just too
    sure they'd never be caught... silly boys (of whatever age).... ;)

    I am so used to security cameras on campus I pay them no mind.
    A few years ago they were upgraded to really high tech.
    You know how some outside night time cameras have that sickly green
    tint? These see through the dark and makes midnight seem like noon.

    That is high tech... guess that would surprise the perps to see
    themselves caught on those cameras at night... :)

    I have turned down a few posts because I have other things to do.
    Seems to me that you are in sufficient demand that saying no every so
    often won't interfere with their regular calling to see if you are
    available after all, this time...-a ;)

    My captain doesn't abuse my retirement, well, very often. And the
    vast majority of the time I get some cushy post. :)

    So I've noticed... but you do need to take your grand tour before you
    get too old to do it properly.... and still enjoy it... ;)

    Rank (and longevity) hath its privileges... you're probably
    considered one of the family... :)

    That's what I'm afraid of. :)
    I am one of the early employees of A1, don't know what number but
    in the single digits. I left one company to go with them when they started so I could stay in parking. Except for one or two others I
    have been with them from the start.
    This is move-in season on campus and I worked Tuesday and my post
    was near the physical plant and everyone asked "I thought you were retired?" I told them what I tell everyone that Marshall is lost
    without my guidance, that the parking and police departments doesn't
    know what to do without me, etc. (Well, that's my story anyway and I'm sticking to it!)

    Probably nearer the truth than would be comfortable... ;)

    Nothing like being there in person... especially in good weather...
    but one needs must be dedicated to want to be there in foul... ;)

    I always say Marshall has fair weather fans. If the weather is nice and/or they are winning, people show up. If the weather is bad or they are losing the fans are no where to be seen.

    Just don't have the proper dedication... :)

    I think that the wondering what was really happening and of what might
    be happening was the worst part of that time period...

    That was when the radio was really important.
    I don't think anyone knew what (if anything) would happen next.

    We were all waiting for another shoe to fall...

    ... A new country song: If I'd Shot You Sooner, I'd Be Out of Jail by Now.

    And the old western saying after someone was shot, "some folks just
    need to be being shot". :)

    I suppose in some cases, that could seem appropriate.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Borrow money from pessimists. They don't expect it back.

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Fri Aug 24 07:39:40 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    Aries that had problems from the beginning... we ended up calling it
    the grapefruit, because it wasn't quite bad enough to be called a
    lemon... just close....

    LOL.
    Chrysler had quality control issues in the '70s and early '80s.
    I recall people noticing Volare's rusting on the new car lot before
    they could be sold.

    These see through the dark and makes midnight seem like noon.

    That is high tech...

    I recall being in dispatch one dark morning and looking at the monitors
    on this one lot and wondered why it was day light two blocks away and we
    were still in darkness. :)
    I was a bit slow on the uptake that morning. :)
    BTW, I've been off line for nearly a week. Never able to get a
    connection with dynip and back at Doc's Place and on a learning curve
    with his new (to me) system.
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Fri Aug 24 09:34:00 2018
    Joe,

    Chrysler had quality control issues in the '70s and early '80s.
    I recall people noticing Volare's rusting on the new car lot before
    they could be sold.

    Reminds me of the skit where Lily "Ernestine" Tomlin is talking with
    the president of General Motors (I've referenced the video
    before)...with the part "Now, you know what it's like to have a
    lemon...not unlike the Edsel <snort!>". <G>

    I recall being in dispatch one dark morning and looking at the monitors
    on this one lot and wondered why it was day light two blocks away and we JM>were still in darkness. :)
    I was a bit slow on the uptake that morning. :)

    Maybe you needed more 40 weight in your coffee. To me, JavaScript is instructions on how to make coffee. <G>

    BTW, I've been off line for nearly a week. Never able to get a
    connection with dynip and back at Doc's Place and on a learning curve JM>with his new (to me) system.

    Good to see you back.

    Daryl

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Aug 25 06:54:20 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    BTW, I've been off line for nearly a week. Never able to get a
    connection with dynip and back at Doc's Place and on a learning curve JM>with his new (to me) system.

    Good to see you back

    So, ya missed me? :)
    Joe



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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Aug 25 18:29:00 2018
    Joe,

    Good to see you back

    So, ya missed me? :)

    Your sage wisdom is a gem here, Esteemed Moderator. :)

    Daryl (with the hip waders in tow) <G>

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Mon Aug 27 06:25:14 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    So, ya missed me? :)

    Your sage wisdom is a gem here, Esteemed Moderator. :)

    Hmmm, probably never even noticed I was gone... :)

    Daryl (with the hip waders in tow) <G>

    Sometimes full body wet suits are needed around here....
    Joe
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Aug 28 13:45:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 08-24-18 07:39 <=-

    Aries that had problems from the beginning... we ended up calling it
    the grapefruit, because it wasn't quite bad enough to be called a
    lemon... just close....
    LOL.
    Chrysler had quality control issues in the '70s and early '80s.
    I recall people noticing Volare's rusting on the new car lot before
    they could be sold.

    We also bought a full-size van in that time period... it was a pretty
    good vehicle, except for the manual transmission that was given
    automatic fluid, so it ran out... had to replace that I think twice...
    and the "leprosy" patches on the sides of the van.... ;)

    But the '89 Shadow we bought was a sweetheart of a car... never had any
    issues with it, including the turbo engine... we got over 200,000 miles
    on it, and Richard kept it running after it was less reliable for my
    longer trips... it was on the road for 20 years... not bad for an
    American car... ;)

    These see through the dark and makes midnight seem like noon.
    That is high tech...
    I recall being in dispatch one dark morning and looking at the
    monitors on this one lot and wondered why it was day light two blocks
    away and we were still in darkness. :)
    I was a bit slow on the uptake that morning. :)

    And probably hit yourself on the head when it dawned on you what you
    were actually seeing... ;)

    BTW, I've been off line for nearly a week. Never able to get a
    connection with dynip and back at Doc's Place and on a learning curve
    with his new (to me) system.

    I've been running behind... was away for a couple of days, and that
    always does it... ;) So I sorta noticed, but hadn't worried yet...
    Welcome to Doc's... ;) Looks like you're getting the knack of it
    ok... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Aug 30 07:19:40 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    But the '89 Shadow we bought was a sweetheart of a car... never had any issues with it

    Chrysler got better in the '80s when Lee I-owe-you-a-coca-cola took over.
    I've always been a Ford man, but have owned Chrysler and GM products.
    I first choice is anything by Ford with Dodge running a close second.
    I won't mention what I think of GM products...

    Richard kept it running

    When I lived in Colorado Springs, CO in the mid 60s there was a
    neighbour with a '58 or '59 Edsel. He spent every Saturday working on
    that car. Something was always going wrong.

    I was a bit slow on the uptake that morning. :)

    And probably hit yourself on the head when it dawned on you what you
    were actually seeing... ;)

    I was also thinking at first, maybe it was a video from the previous
    day being reviewed. Until I noticed the date/stamp on the bottom of the screen.

    I've been running behind... was away for a couple of days, and that
    always does it... ;) So I sorta noticed, but hadn't worried yet...
    Welcome to Doc's... ;) Looks like you're getting the knack of it
    ok... :)

    I'm getting the basic's down.
    I have noticed, maybe due to my config's, a lot of unread messages
    aren't marked and have to scroll through checking dates.
    With the old system I just marked all read (or the like) and only
    messages from that date on showed up unread. Doc's does have the "new"
    flag that shows up but these are checking on things I had missed when off
    line a while.
    I'm going to mark everything previous to today as read.
    So, if I haven't replied to anyone its not that I'm ignoring ya.
    Joe

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Wed Aug 29 21:17:00 2018
    Joe,

    So, ya missed me? :)

    Your sage wisdom is a gem here, Esteemed Moderator. :)

    Hmmm, probably never even noticed I was gone... :)

    I figured either you were away, or your BBS didn't make its echomail
    run.

    Daryl (with the hip waders in tow) <G>

    Sometimes full body wet suits are needed around here....

    Reminds me of the sign outside of this club, that noted "Wet T-Shirt
    Contest Tonight". So, this guy walks in, with a wet T-Shirt (dripping
    wet), and he says "Here's my wet T-Shirt...what do I win??". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Thu Aug 30 08:35:00 2018
    Joe,

    Chrysler got better in the '80s when Lee I-owe-you-a-coca-cola took over.

    Good...he can get me a lifetime supply. <BG>

    I've always been a Ford man, but have owned Chrysler and GM products.

    Found On Road Dead, Fix Or Repair Daily, etc. <G>

    I won't mention what I think of GM products...

    General Mess of Crap. <G>

    When I lived in Colorado Springs, CO in the mid 60s there was a
    neighbour with a '58 or '59 Edsel. He spent every Saturday working on JM>that car. Something was always going wrong.

    Every time I hear the word "Edsel", I'm going to think of Ernestine
    (Lily) Tomlin talking to General Motors..."now you know what it's like
    to have a lemon...not unlike the Edsel" <snort!> <G>.

    I'm going to mark everything previous to today as read.

    That's what I do...sometimes I get a ton of re-tossed packets and
    messages. I normally have the system purge anything more than 30 days
    old, as I don't consider messages beyond that as being "timely".

    So, if I haven't replied to anyone its not that I'm ignoring ya.

    I'm not deaf...I'm ignoring you. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From joe mackey@1:154/30 to Daryl Stout on Fri Aug 31 06:30:50 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    I've always been a Ford man, but have owned Chrysler and GM products.

    Found On Road Dead, Fix Or Repair Daily, etc. <G>

    FIRST on race day!
    Ya know there is one car, regarding racing, that's almost forgotten about today, the '49-'52 Hudson. Those stock Hudson's tore of the track. (And I'm not a race car fan).

    I'm going to mark everything previous to today as read.

    That's what I do

    Ah, but as mod I have the bounden duty to read all. Its in the fine print of
    the contract...

    So, if I haven't replied to anyone its not that I'm ignoring ya.

    I'm not deaf...I'm ignoring you. <G>

    LOL
    Joe


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Sep 1 09:32:00 2018
    Joe,

    -a I've always been a Ford man, but have owned Chrysler and GM product

    -a Found On Road Dead, Fix Or Repair Daily, etc. <G>

    FIRST on race day!

    Touche', Sir Moderator. <G>

    Ya know there is one car, regarding racing, that's almost forgotten about
    today, the '49-'52 Hudson. Those stock Hudson's tore of the track. (And I' JM>not a race car fan).

    I used to watch them, and one my late uncles was a stock car driver.
    He had a fatal heart attack during a race, and it was a miracle he
    didn't crash with another car, as his went out of control off the
    course. When they got to him, he was already dead, and rigor mortis had
    already set in...I think he was only 39.

    Ah, but as mod I have the bounden duty to read all. Its in the fine print
    the contract...

    First time I've heard of a contract for the echo moderators...but I
    guess that has been a secret all these years. <G>

    -a So, if I haven't replied to anyone its not that I'm ignoring ya.

    -a I'm not deaf...I'm ignoring you. <G>

    LOL

    I saw a T-shirt with that on it several years ago. Having worked in silkscreen printing for almost 20 years, I am always looking for neat
    T-Shirts. One had a picture of an ocelot on it, and it looked like it
    had been sucking on extremely tart persimmons. The caption noted:

    "I have PMS and a handgun. Any questions??". <BG>

    I knew several women who WANTED that shirt. :)

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Sat Sep 1 15:21:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 08-30-18 07:19 <=-

    But the '89 Shadow we bought was a sweetheart of a car... never had any issues with it
    Chrysler got better in the '80s when Lee I-owe-you-a-coca-cola took
    over. I've always been a Ford man, but have owned Chrysler and GM products. I first choice is anything by Ford with Dodge running a
    close second. I won't mention what I think of GM products...

    We'd always been Chrysler Corp, pretty much, although Richard's first
    car was a VW bug, and we did get a used VW squareback at one time... but
    it got so none of the American dealers were selling what we were looking
    for, so now we have Volvos... Richard's is a '98, mine an '05... I'm not
    sure if any future cars, if any, will be Volvos, though...

    Richard kept it running

    When I lived in Colorado Springs, CO in the mid 60s there was a
    neighbour with a '58 or '59 Edsel. He spent every Saturday working on that car. Something was always going wrong.

    The Shadow didn't have much wrong with it, except old age, finally... He
    also had kept the grapefruit going past what it might otherwise have...

    I was a bit slow on the uptake that morning. :)
    And probably hit yourself on the head when it dawned on you what you
    were actually seeing... ;)

    I was also thinking at first, maybe it was a video from the previous
    day being reviewed. Until I noticed the date/stamp on the bottom of
    the screen.

    That had to be a bit of a shock/surprise... ;)

    I've been running behind... was away for a couple of days, and that
    always does it... ;) So I sorta noticed, but hadn't worried yet...
    Welcome to Doc's... ;) Looks like you're getting the knack of it
    ok... :)

    I'm getting the basic's down.
    I have noticed, maybe due to my config's, a lot of unread messages
    aren't marked and have to scroll through checking dates.

    Since I read offline, I've been able to just set the last read pointer
    in the QWK door for an appropriate point when something happens to mess
    with them...

    With the old system I just marked all read (or the like) and only
    messages from that date on showed up unread. Doc's does have the
    "new" flag that shows up but these are checking on things I had missed when off line a while.
    I'm going to mark everything previous to today as read

    If you've covered the space for when you were off line, then that makes
    good sense.... the older messages you'd read, presumably, in the other
    system you were using... :)

    So, if I haven't replied to anyone its not that I'm ignoring ya.

    At least not intentionally... <G> I'll just have to go check back and
    make sure you didn't miss any of my messages... I can always re-send if necessary... ;) But I think you're ok on that... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sun Sep 2 06:39:52 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    Hmmm, probably never even noticed I was gone... :)

    I figured either you were away, or your BBS didn't make its echomail
    run.

    I checked dynip the other day and running again.
    But at least I have a back up now.
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to DARYL STOUT on Sun Sep 2 06:44:20 2018
    Daryl wrote --

    When they got to him, he was already dead, and rigor mortis had
    already set in...I think he was only 39.

    So young.

    Ah, but as mod I have the bounden duty to read all. Its in the
    fine print the contract...

    First time I've heard of a contract for the echo moderators...but I
    guess that has been a secret all these years. <G>

    I won't mention how it has to be signed in one's own blood. :)
    Joe
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  • From JOE MACKEY@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Sun Sep 2 07:03:44 2018
    Nancy wrote --

    We'd always been Chrysler Corp, pretty much, although Richard's first
    car was a VW bug, and we did get a used VW squareback at one time...

    When I started selling cars in 1977, the first place I sold for I drove
    used cars off the lot. I loved that, a dream come true. I had always
    had a fantasy of being able to pick out some car to drive from a wide
    choice. One of the cars was a squareback which I liked.
    (Started out as detailer in the summer of '76 on used cars for a Lincoln-Mercury dealer, got the sales bug, and for a few months at a
    dealership selling Honda cars and bikes, Subaru, Volvo and Fiats. Then
    moved to a large Ford dealership, eventually up to Cadillac-Olds here and
    then fired. I was actually fired from Ford since I gotten a job with
    Cadillac. Both those places have since gone out of business. :)
    When selling Fords I had a much larger collection of cars to choose
    from. If around town it was a small one, like a Pinto, if a weekend trip
    then something like a Pontiac Gran Prix I liked.
    And I loved selling used cars. With new cars the buyer wanted a
    different colour, options, etc. With a used car: There it is, take it or
    leave it. :) (Plus commissions higher on used cars).
    One car I loved to drive was a early '70s Subaru, not much bigger than
    a skateboard with an engine, but I think it ran mostly on air since I
    very, very, very seldom had to put gas in it. My last car, a '70
    Chrysler Newport, I had to fight it to stay on the road whenever it was a
    near a gas station, it kept trying to pull up to the pumps.

    now we have Volvos

    I imagine those are still tough cars.
    I was always partial to the 144's, that looked like '48 Fords. :)

    I'm getting the basic's down.
    I have noticed, maybe due to my config's, a lot of unread messages aren't marked and have to scroll through checking dates.

    Since I read offline, I've been able to just set the last read pointer
    in the QWK door for an appropriate point when something happens to mess
    with them...

    After a few days the new mail now shows in a separate box. When I
    first returned everything was new. :)
    Now just new mail shows up, reply, and it disappears.
    Dynip, and the mail readers before it, had a "mark all read " option
    and those would disappear in a couple of days.
    Joe


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Sep 4 12:41:40 2018

    On 2018 Sep 02 06:39:52, you wrote to DARYL STOUT:

    Hmmm, probably never even noticed I was gone... :)

    I figured either you were away, or your BBS didn't make its echomail
    run.

    I checked dynip the other day and running again.

    FWIW: dynip.com is my static domain name host... it is not my system... they host thousands of static domain names and the DNS pointers to those hosts... wpusa.dynip.com is my base domain name and i have many additional (sub)domains attached to it... eg: www.wpusa.dynip.com, ftn.wpusa.dynip.com, gallery.wpusa.dynip.com, mail.wpusa.dynip.com, etc...

    But at least I have a back up now.

    yeah, i'm sorry about that but there wasn't much i could do... i was away when a storm came through and knocked our power out... when i returned home, the damage was already done but not yet discovered... in the morning i found that the VDSL (two bonded channels) modem was dead... that was Sunday... i called support but it wasn't until Monday or Tuesday before anyone finally decided to send me a replacement modem... then they sent the wrong one which arrived on Thursday... i called support before the FedEx guy had even gotten in his truck to leave... support transferred me to customer care and they told me they would
    overnight the proper replacement modem... the cutoff time was 14:00 and it was like 13:45... i should have had the modem Friday morning or possibly Saturday but no... someone doesn't know what "overnight delivery" means so i didn't get the replacement modem until Monday morning... we were offline for 9 extremely long and boring days days...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MARK LEWIS on Wed Sep 5 08:33:00 2018
    Mark,

    but no... someone doesn't know what "overnight delivery" means so i didn't g ML>the replacement modem until Monday morning... we were offline for 9 extremel ML>long and boring days days...

    Sounds like the "customer service" (I use the term loosely) with AT&T.

    Daryl

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JOE MACKEY on Tue Sep 11 18:51:00 2018
    Quoting Joe Mackey to Nancy Backus on 09-02-18 07:03 <=-

    We'd always been Chrysler Corp, pretty much, although Richard's first
    car was a VW bug, and we did get a used VW squareback at one time...

    When I started selling cars in 1977, the first place I sold for I
    drove used cars off the lot. I loved that, a dream come true. I had always had a fantasy of being able to pick out some car to drive from a wide choice. One of the cars was a squareback which I liked.

    We liked ours ok, too... Richard had bought it for me, used, but then he
    ended up driving it, since my Duster still was working after all... but
    it was a nice little car....

    (Started out as detailer in the summer of '76 on used cars for a Lincoln-Mercury dealer, got the sales bug, and for a few months at a dealership selling Honda cars and bikes, Subaru, Volvo and Fiats.
    Then moved to a large Ford dealership, eventually up to Cadillac-Olds
    here and then fired. I was actually fired from Ford since I gotten a
    job with Cadillac. Both those places have since gone out of business. :)

    Nothing lasts forever... although some do hang on for longer than
    others...

    When selling Fords I had a much larger collection of cars to
    choose from. If around town it was a small one, like a Pinto, if a weekend trip then something like a Pontiac Gran Prix I liked.

    Easy way to find out which car(s) you liked, that way... you could
    change out to another car whenever you wished... ;)

    And I loved selling used cars. With new cars the buyer wanted a
    different colour, options, etc. With a used car: There it is, take it
    or leave it. :) (Plus commissions higher on used cars).

    We bought new vehicles off the lot a few times.. and ordered a few times
    as well... My current car was the first one not bought as a new car... Richard's current car the first one he ever had as a new car... When we
    got my Shadow, we wanted a manual transmission in a sedan (not a
    coupe)... nothing like that on the lot, so we had to order it...

    One car I loved to drive was a early '70s Subaru, not much bigger
    than a skateboard with an engine, but I think it ran mostly on air
    since I very, very, very seldom had to put gas in it. My last car, a
    '70 Chrysler Newport, I had to fight it to stay on the road whenever it was a near a gas station, it kept trying to pull up to the pumps.

    Had a tippler, eh...?

    now we have Volvos

    I imagine those are still tough cars.

    Pretty much so... Richard's is over 20 years old now... and mine's 13 already... don't show their age much... :)

    I was always partial to the 144's, that looked like '48 Fords. :)

    That's before our time.. at least with Volvos... ;) Richard's is a V70,
    mine an S60R... ;)

    I'm getting the basic's down.
    I have noticed, maybe due to my config's, a lot of unread messages aren't marked and have to scroll through checking dates.
    Since I read offline, I've been able to just set the last read pointer
    in the QWK door for an appropriate point when something happens to mess
    with them...

    After a few days the new mail now shows in a separate box. When I
    first returned everything was new. :)
    Now just new mail shows up, reply, and it disappears.
    Dynip, and the mail readers before it, had a "mark all read " option
    and those would disappear in a couple of days.

    Different places do have different setups.. :) Just have to get used
    to them.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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