At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their servers.

Any input?


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Good ${greeting_time}, Joacim!

30 Nov 17 08:35, you wrote to All:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their servers.
Any input?

It is necessary to use the Linux that your familiar Linux-guru knows best. I chose the CentOS for servers and the Linux Mint with XFCE for the workstation.

With best regards, Alexandr.

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Hello Joacim,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 08:35:30, Joacim Melin wrote to All:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their servers.

Any input?

Your points are probably directing you to the best point of interest. Although,
if you want to keep yourself challenged for your OWN desktop, I would recommend
Archlinux. Obviously going back and forth with CentOS/RHEL systems would probably be a pain in the ass. But.. c'mon.. it's all about the challenge, isn't it? ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "?? ????. ? ????? ?????? ???????."
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Hello Alexandr,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 12:20:52, Alexandr Kruglikov wrote to Joacim Melin:

It is necessary to use the Linux that your familiar Linux-guru knows
best. I chose the CentOS for servers and the Linux Mint with XFCE for
the workstation.

I honestly wouldn't have figured your for that type. But to each their own. I prefer the latest stable releases in a distro. Otherwise, I'd rather create my own distro. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Good ${greeting_time}, Nicholas!

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30 Nov 17 02:45, you wrote to me:

It is necessary to use the Linux that your familiar Linux-guru
knows best. I chose the CentOS for servers and the Linux Mint
with XFCE for the workstation.

I honestly wouldn't have figured your for that type. But to each their own. I prefer the latest stable releases in a distro. Otherwise, I'd rather create my own distro. ;)

Why not? It works, my wife is governed. I prefer the offtopic OS =)

With best regards, Alexandr.

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On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:35:30 +0000, "Joacim Melin"
<joacim.melin@2:201/120> wrote:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run Linux on

our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and running. No >problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro

that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since >most of our customers run RHEL on their servers.

Any input?

That's like asking which is the best car for driving.
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Greetings, traveler ...

30 Nov 17 02:42, you wrote to Joacim Melin:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to
run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get
everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of
touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for
corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of
our customers run RHEL on their servers.

Any input?

Your points are probably directing you to the best point of interest. Although, if you want to keep yourself challenged for your OWN
desktop, I would recommend Archlinux. Obviously going back and forth
with CentOS/RHEL systems would probably be a pain in the ass. But.. c'mon.. it's all about the challenge, isn't it? ;)

If you want to have something that 'just works' (can't imagine that with Linux,
but ...) look at distrowatch.com for top 5 and pick by your taste. If you want a playground to learn some stuff about the Linux, I'd suggest you start with Arch or Gentoo, then obviously move to LFS. Don't just read and follow LFS book, but read, understand and create your own setup. This will teach you a lot
aboutthe OS and how it is built ...

\aID

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Hello Joacim!

30 Nov 17 08:35, you wrote to all:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their servers.

Any input?

If you're going the RHEL route, then Fedora would be the distro to use. Mint is a great desktop distro as well, and is based on Debian.

Ubuntu is the old standby and is really designed for desktop usage, and it's well supported.



If you are into experimentation and love fiddling with things (and have hours to kill), Arch or Gentoo are not only very customizable, but can be incredibly satisfying when you get them up and working exactly how you want.



Mike


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Good ${greeting_time}, Joacim!

30 Nov 17 08:35, you wrote to All:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run
Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and
running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which
desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning
towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their
servers.
Any input?

It is necessary to use the Linux that your familiar Linux-guru knows
best. I chose the CentOS for servers and the Linux Mint with XFCE for
the workstation.

With best regards, Alexandr

Not really, but we do work in a enterprise environment where being able to use Skype, Slack, a email client that works with Exchange Server (no IMAP), etc needs to install properly and then work without crashing. This usually means either Fedora/CentOS or Ubuntu AFAIK.


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Hello Joacim,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 08:35:30, Joacim Melin wrote to All:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run
Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and
running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which
desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning
towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their
servers.

Any input?

Your points are probably directing you to the best point of interest. Although, if you want to keep yourself challenged for your OWN
desktop, I would recommend Archlinux. Obviously going back and forth
with CentOS/RHEL systems would probably be a pain in the ass. But.. c'mon.. it's all about the challenge, isn't it? ;)

Indeed, but ideally everything just works and I can actually get work done that
my employer pays me to perform. :)


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On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 08:35:30 +0000, "Joacim Melin"
<joacim.melin@2:201/120> wrote:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run Linux o

n

our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and running. No >>problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which desktop Linux distr

o

that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since

most of our customers run RHEL on their servers. >>
Any input?

That's like asking which is the best car for driving.

There's always that one guy who just has to be that one guy...


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Greetings, traveler ...

30 Nov 17 02:42, you wrote to Joacim Melin:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to
run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get
everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of
touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for
corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of
our customers run RHEL on their servers.

Any input?

Your points are probably directing you to the best point of interest.
Although, if you want to keep yourself challenged for your OWN
desktop, I would recommend Archlinux. Obviously going back and forth
with CentOS/RHEL systems would probably be a pain in the ass. But..
c'mon.. it's all about the challenge, isn't it? ;)

If you want to have something that 'just works' (can't imagine that
with Linux, but ...) look at distrowatch.com for top 5 and pick by
your taste. If you want a playground to learn some stuff about the
Linux, I'd suggest you start with Arch or Gentoo, then obviously move
to LFS. Don't just read and follow LFS book, but read, understand and create your own setup. This will teach you a lot aboutthe OS and how
it is built ...

I have worked with Linux for years and years and have a pretty good knowledge of the OS itself, but since this is for my work computer it should be easy to install and get going with the various services we need to use at work (Skype, Slack, Active Directory, Exchange, etc), and of this I have little experience as a Linux desktop user (I much prefer OS X / macOS for this but Mac is not an option my employer wants to offer) in an enterprise environment.


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On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 19:47:37 +0000, "Joacim Melin"
<joacim.melin@2:201/120> wrote:

That's like asking which is the best car for driving.

There's always that one guy who just has to be that one guy...

Not really. What you want in a desktop OS and I want are going to be
completely different.

Let's face it, most packages are available for most Linux operating systems...some are more ahead (Fedora, ArchiLinux) rathan others
(RHEL, CentOS). You can always compile what you need. Do you want
bleeding edge or do you want stability? Do you want to have to deal
with multiple repos if you want MP3 support? Do you like RPM or do you
like apt-get and dpkg? Do you have a specific Windowing environemtnt
that your like certian requirements that are easily met by a
particular release?

I'd be happy to recommend CentOS with KDE to anyone. It's stable and
meets my needs.
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Any input?

I would suggest Debian. I've tried many and Debian is what I've liked the most. There's a lot of distros built on Debian... but why not just use
Debian instead? I love it. It's intuitive. And it works!

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Hello Joacim!

30 Nov 17 08:35, you wrote to all:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run
Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and
running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which
desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning
towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their
servers.

Any input?

If you're going the RHEL route, then Fedora would be the distro to
use. Mint is a great desktop distro as well, and is based on Debian.

Ubuntu is the old standby and is really designed for desktop usage,
and it's well supported.

If you are into experimentation and love fiddling with things (and
have hours to kill), Arch or Gentoo are not only very customizable,
but can be incredibly satisfying when you get them up and working
exactly how you want.

Good summary. Thanks, Mike.


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Good ${greeting_time}, Joacim!

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30 Nov 17 19:44, you wrote to me:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed
to run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get
everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out
of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best
for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since
most of our customers run RHEL on their servers. Any input?

It is necessary to use the Linux that your familiar Linux-guru
knows best. I chose the CentOS for servers and the Linux Mint
with XFCE for the workstation.

Not really, but we do work in a enterprise environment where being
able to use Skype, Slack, a email client that works with Exchange
Server (no IMAP), etc needs to install properly and then work without crashing. This usually means either Fedora/CentOS or Ubuntu AFAIK.

I've been using Mint for a long time and do not have any difficulty with falling. It almost does not differ from Ubuntu, because it is based on Ubuntu. The only thing that I have problems with, to fully use it - is a corporate policy that forces Windows to use workstations. Therefore, only on a working laptop (

P.S. My company use IBM Lotus Notes as a mail server =\

With best regards, Alexandr.

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At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to
run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get
everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of
touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for
corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of
our customers run RHEL on their servers.

I've been using Ubuntu on the desktop(s) since 6.something.

I (obviously) don't use Unity.

I'm a fairly simple person when it comes to desktops. It needs to be functional, quitely themed, and work well in high resolutions. Other than that,
I'm not too fuzzy. I always use the LTS releases, which works well for me.

If I need Windows, I either have a dual-boot environment or run it under VirtualBox with Linux as the host OS.



-joho

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Hello Alexandr,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 17:13:00, Alexandr Kruglikov wrote to Nicholas Boel:

I honestly wouldn't have figured your for that type. But to each
their own. I prefer the latest stable releases in a distro.
Otherwise, I'd rather create my own distro. ;)

Why not? It works, my wife is governed. I prefer the offtopic OS =)

Exactly as you stated. Whatever you're most comfortable with is usually the best choice! ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "?? ????. ? ????? ?????? ???????."
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Hello Andrei,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 18:47:30, Andrei Dzedolik wrote to Nicholas Boel:

If you want to have something that 'just works' (can't imagine that
with Linux, but ...) look at distrowatch.com for top 5 and pick by
your taste. If you want a playground to learn some stuff about the
Linux, I'd suggest you start with Arch or Gentoo, then obviously move
to LFS. Don't just read and follow LFS book, but read, understand and create your own setup. This will teach you a lot aboutthe OS and how
it is built ...

Agreed. However, I could imagine distrowatch being a little biased towards popularity, and the amount of Windows migrations (which is why Ubuntu and Mint top the list, even though I most likely wouldn't use either one). However, as you mention, it's all preference.

Great points! I still haven't been able to sit down and read that entire LFS book (its a lot to take in), but I'll keep trying and hopefully some day build my own! ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "?? ????. ? ????? ?????? ???????."
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Hello Joacim,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 19:46:04, Joacim Melin wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Your points are probably directing you to the best point of
interest. Although, if you want to keep yourself challenged for
your OWN desktop, I would recommend Archlinux. Obviously going
back and forth with CentOS/RHEL systems would probably be a pain
in the ass. But.. c'mon.. it's all about the challenge, isn't it?
;)

Indeed, but ideally everything just works and I can actually get work
done that my employer pays me to perform. :)

Agreed, especially at the workplace. And since you're looking for a desktop that will work well with what you run at the workplace, I would probably have to recommend Fedora for a desktop. Newer applications, that would most likely still work well with your servers. Otherwise CentOS wasn't ugly the last time I
looked at the desktop version either. ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "?? ????. ? ????? ?????? ???????."
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Hello Joacim,

On Thu Nov 30 2017 19:47:36, Joacim Melin wrote to Nelgin:

That's like asking which is the best car for driving.

There's always that one guy who just has to be that one guy...

I can help. The answer is definitely a Toyota Prius! LOL, <ducks and runs>

Regards,
Nick

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Hello Joacim!

30 Nov 17 08:35, you wrote to all:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to run JM>> Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get everything up and JM>> running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of touch regarding which JM>> desktop Linux distro that's the best for corporate use. I'm leaning JM>> towards Fedora or CentOS since most of our customers run RHEL on their JM>> servers.

Any input?

If you're going the RHEL route, then Fedora would be the distro to use. Mint is a great desktop distro as well, and is based on Debian.

Ubuntu is the old standby and is really designed for desktop usage, and it's well supported.

If you are into experimentation and love fiddling with things (and have hours to kill), Arch or Gentoo are not only very customizable, but can be incredibly satisfying when you get them up and working exactly how you want.

Good summary. Thanks, Mike.

Another distro that fits that description is Slackware. About the
oldest surviving distro, and true to the "Unix way". I've been using it
for years and wouldn't even consider switching to something else.


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Greetings, traveler ...

30 Nov 17 19:48, you wrote to me:

I have worked with Linux for years and years and have a pretty good knowledge of the OS itself, but since this is for my work computer it should be easy to install and get going with the various services we
need to use at work (Skype, Slack, Active Directory, Exchange, etc),
and of this I have little experience as a Linux desktop user (I much prefer OS X / macOS for this but Mac is not an option my employer
wants to offer) in an enterprise environment.

Ah, I see ... then I'd go either Fedora or Ubuntu: both have pretty good community and commercial software makers tend to build their stuff for these 2 distros at least ...


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Good ${greeting_time}, Joacim!

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30 Nov 17 19:44, you wrote to me:

At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed
to run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get
everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out
of touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best
for corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since
most of our customers run RHEL on their servers. Any input?

It is necessary to use the Linux that your familiar Linux-guru
knows best. I chose the CentOS for servers and the Linux Mint
with XFCE for the workstation.

Not really, but we do work in a enterprise environment where being
able to use Skype, Slack, a email client that works with Exchange
Server (no IMAP), etc needs to install properly and then work without
crashing. This usually means either Fedora/CentOS or Ubuntu AFAIK.

I've been using Mint for a long time and do not have any difficulty
with falling. It almost does not differ from Ubuntu, because it is
based on Ubuntu.
The only thing that I have problems with, to fully use it - is a
corporate policy that forces Windows to use workstations. Therefore,
only on a working laptop (

P.S. My company use IBM Lotus Notes as a mail server =\

You have my sympathy.

As long as I can get a decent email client, Chrome, Skype, Slack and some other
tools running it's all good. And oh - Gnome. Not KDE, etc.


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At work, I am forced to use Windows 10 but we are also allowed to
run Linux on our laptops if we support ourselves and get
everything up and running. No problem for me but I'm a bit out of
touch regarding which desktop Linux distro that's the best for
corporate use. I'm leaning towards Fedora or CentOS since most of
our customers run RHEL on their servers.

I've been using Ubuntu on the desktop(s) since 6.something.

I (obviously) don't use Unity.

I'm a fairly simple person when it comes to desktops. It needs to be functional, quitely themed, and work well in high resolutions. Other
than that, I'm not too fuzzy. I always use the LTS releases, which
works well for me.

If I need Windows, I either have a dual-boot environment or run it
under VirtualBox with Linux as the host OS.

Unity. What a complete utter failure.


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Hello Joacim,

On Sat Dec 02 2017 11:03:50, Joacim Melin wrote to Alexandr Kruglikov:

As long as I can get a decent email client, Chrome, Skype, Slack and
some other tools running it's all good. And oh - Gnome. Not KDE, etc.

Honestly, anything should work for what you need above. Just try out some LiveCDs of some of the popular distros that should work the best with CentOS (Fedora, Ubuntu or even CentOS itself) before you decide on a permanent solution.

I've used Thunderbird for email and NNTP for quite some time now. Haven't really had a reason to look at any others as I've been happy with it. Chrome and Skype will install on anything, and I have no idea what Slack is but if it's a fairly popular program it'll most likely work on anything as well.

Also, most of the popular distros that have LiveCDs come with a choice of what desktop or window manager you'd like to login to and/or install.

Regards,
Nick

... "?? ????. ? ????? ?????? ???????."
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Hello Joacim,

On Sat Dec 02 2017 11:05:46, Joacim Melin wrote to Joaquim Homrighausen:

Unity. What a complete utter failure.

LOL. I think they were trying to stay ahead of the curve with tablets and touch
screen laptops. That's the only place Unity belongs, IMO. But yeah, when they released that I believe was the last time I used Gnome at all. Sure there's a bunch of other variations now, some better than others, but wow what a misqueue
on that one. ;)

Regards,
Nick

... "?? ????. ? ????? ?????? ???????."
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Good ${greeting_time}, Joacim!

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02 Dec 17 11:03, you wrote to me:

P.S. My company use IBM Lotus Notes as a mail server =\

You have my sympathy.

Many thanks!

As long as I can get a decent email client, Chrome, Skype, Slack and
some other tools running it's all good.

I have IMAP access to this mail server. But, in addition to mail, they use calendars and common databases.

And oh - Gnome. Not KDE, etc.

XFCE =)

With best regards, Alexandr.

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I (obviously) don't use Unity.

Unity. What a complete utter failure.

Yes.



-joho

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