• LinuxNet Problems

    From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to Gert Andersen on Tue May 9 10:29:54 2017
    Hey Gert,

    since some weeks, I'm desperately trying to reach you through several channels: Fido Netmails -> No answer
    AreaFix Mails to your Mailer -> No answer
    Login to your BBS -> Hangs on Mailcheck, then "Idle Timeout"..

    So now I'm trying a public echo - maybe you see this, maybe someone else can tell me what's up...

    Your mailer is ignoring all my LinuxNet messages and isn't sending any mail since a month or so..
    Mails to AreaFix are taken without any complaints but I never get an answer. No matter if I'm writing from my node aka or the host aka...
    Please get in touch with me, I'ld love to fix this...

    Cheers,
    Philipp


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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Philipp Giebel on Tue May 9 21:30:44 2017
    Hello Philipp!

    09 May 2017 10:29, Philipp Giebel wrote to Gert Andersen:

    since some weeks, I'm desperately trying to reach you through several channels:
    Fido Netmails -> No answer
    AreaFix Mails to your Mailer -> No answer

    and no kitkat :=)

    Login to your BBS -> Hangs on Mailcheck, then "Idle Timeout"..

    imho Gert could manage better on windows then linux

    So now I'm trying a public echo - maybe you see this, maybe someone
    else can tell me what's up...

    i get random dupe pkt file names from him, with in my inbound is a dupe filename that my qico renames to pku, then hpt does not see it until i rename it back to pkt, maybe that happend on his inbound dir aswell ? :/

    Your mailer is ignoring all my LinuxNet messages and isn't sending any mail since a month or so..

    maybe drop linuxnet ?

    Mails to AreaFix are taken without any complaints but I never get an answer. No matter if I'm writing from my node aka or the host aka... Please get in touch with me, I'ld love to fix this...

    Gert missing to run hpt pack.......

    or some silly scripting fails in lock state

    i have set 2:230/150 down today


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to Benny Pedersen on Wed May 10 19:46:42 2017
    Hello Benny!

    i get random dupe pkt file names from him, with in my inbound is a
    dupe filename that my qico renames to pku, then hpt does not see it
    until i rename it back to pkt, maybe that happend on his inbound dir aswell ? :/
    Good point, but how can I tell him when the only contact details I have are ftn
    akas..? ;)

    maybe drop linuxnet ?
    I'ld rather not... I liked the idea of a linux ftn since I'm a linux admin for living, with a bbs running on linux for fun.. ..It just made so much sense.. ;) I guess, I'll wait some longer - doesn't hurt me too much.. ;)

    Gert missing to run hpt pack.......
    or some silly scripting fails in lock state
    Funny thing is: It all worked just fine the day before..
    Then I changed a whole lot of stuff on my side: First I tried to unsubscribe from all echos. No response..
    Then changed the routing for LinuxNet anyway since I did it wrong in the first place and tried to resubscribe to all echos. No response..
    Then I switched my complete setup from binkd+mystic to binkd+husky+golded(+mystic)...
    So there's a fair chance I'm the one doing wrong...

    But I do know fido's working fine on my side.. So after having written several netmails over the last month, this echo was my last resort.. ;)

    i have set 2:230/150 down today
    So you can't reach him, too? It's not only me?

    Cheers,
    Philipp


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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Philipp Giebel on Wed May 10 23:55:10 2017
    Hello Philipp!

    10 May 17, Philipp Giebel wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Good point, but how can I tell him when the only contact details I
    have are ftn akas..? ;)

    One more low chance is writing into his binkd logfile by modified sysname, location, sysop and nodeinfo keywords.

    Copy your binkd config and start it to poll with the -p -P parameter.

    btxe had a bannercid keyword for modified banner lines depending on incomming caller ids but that wouldn't match your case.

    Funny thing is: It all worked just fine the day before..
    Then I changed a whole lot of stuff on my side: First I tried to unsubscribe from all echos. No response.

    Have you done that before successfully?
    If no you may have detected some kind of config error or bug on his side.

    I've done a main link change lately and my experiance was to better do small changes with a working confirmation than change a lot of stuff at once.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to Kai Richter on Thu May 11 07:00:12 2017
    Hey Kai!

    One more low chance is writing into his binkd logfile by modified
    sysname, location, sysop and nodeinfo keywords.

    Copy your binkd config and start it to poll with the -p -P parameter.

    btxe had a bannercid keyword for modified banner lines depending on incomming caller ids but that wouldn't match your case.

    Good idea, maybe I'll try that later, when I'm even more desperate that I am now.. ;)
    Seeing this in a binkd logfile is a rather small chance indeed, I guess..

    Funny thing is: It all worked just fine the day before..
    Then I changed a whole lot of stuff on my side: First I tried to
    unsubscribe from all echos. No response.

    Have you done that before successfully?
    If no you may have detected some kind of config error or bug on his
    side.
    Well, I don't know.. ;) I didn't receive an answer from his AreaFix confirming my changes, but I also didn't receive any echomail since then.. So chances are 50/50 I really unsubscribed or there's an earlier error on his side...

    I've done a main link change lately and my experiance was to better do small changes with a working confirmation than change a lot of stuff
    at once.
    Yeah, in a perfect world.. ;) I had a timeframe for this since I'm pretty occupied with my daytime job and I only had half a week for this private project..
    Back then I still thought I'ld be able to reach him via fido if anything went wrong..

    Then again: Yesterday I found him advertising his JustaXnet at the othernets fido echo.. I know that's just a cronjob but these echomails arrivind at my system do mean his config isn't completely f*cked up..

    Maybe he doesn't receive external mail at all, which should come to his attention sooner or later or it's just the routing for my, what do you call it,
    subnet? Like: No mail from 2:240/* or so..
    Then there's still a chance he sees the answer from 2:230/0 and wonders about the missing original post...

    I'ld be very interested in knowing whether his fidonet uplink has problems reaching him, too, or not..

    Cheers,
    Philipp

    PS: Is there a shortkey for deleting complete lines in golded..?


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Philipp Giebel on Thu May 11 09:31:14 2017
    Hi Philipp,

    On 2017-05-11 07:00:12, you wrote to Kai Richter:

    Then again: Yesterday I found him advertising his JustaXnet at the othernets fido echo.. I know that's just a cronjob but these echomails arrivind at my system do mean his config isn't completely f*cked up..

    There was something odd about it though!

    Normally his system posts 8 of these messages at about the same time in the OTHERNETS area:

    Linuxnet
    Sysop's TechNet
    Pascal-Net
    1 AdvnetureNet
    JustaXnet
    1 JustaXnet
    ZyXEL-Net
    VirNet

    Yesterday there were only 3 of those... At least that was what arrived here.

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Philipp Giebel on Thu May 11 16:27:38 2017
    Hello Philipp!

    11 May 17, Philipp Giebel wrote to Kai Richter:

    One more low chance is writing into his binkd logfile by modified
    sysname, location, sysop and nodeinfo keywords.

    Seeing this in a binkd logfile is a rather small chance indeed,

    True. But it's a chance.

    Then again: Yesterday I found him advertising his JustaXnet at the othernets fido echo.. I know that's just a cronjob but these echomails arrivind at my system do mean his config isn't completely f*cked up..

    I remember a config problem of mine. An existing file causes the unpacker to ask for overwrite Y/N. Depending on the toss script it could block all further tossing by lockfiles. Did you try uncompressed netmails already?

    Maybe he doesn't receive external mail at all, which should come to
    his attention sooner or later or it's just the routing for my, what do
    you call it, subnet? Like: No mail from 2:240/*

    I would call that a network, the 2:240/0 is the network coordinatior (NC).

    Does LinuxNet have it's own zone number?

    Then there's still a chance he sees the answer from 2:230/0 and
    wonders about the missing original post...

    Not if he was already set to the down status in the nodelist. In that case no other mailer would call him anymore.

    I'ld be very interested in knowing whether his fidonet uplink has
    problems reaching him, too, or not..

    Well, better discuss that via netmail with Benny. Your main goal is reached, anyone who knows Gert could see your request here.

    You wrote the situation lasts since weeks. Maybe because of that Benny said he would put Gert to the down status. I don't know if that really happens with the
    next nodelist update. In R24 the usual procedure is setting the node to hold and give him time to fix his problem. If it's fixed all hold mail is transfered
    and there are no holes in the mail chains.

    PS: Is there a shortkey for deleting complete lines in golded..?

    Not really. ;) By default CTRL-Y removes a complete line. That's what you want but it's not a deletetion. It's a move into the buffer, you can call it back with CTRL-U. The buffer survives between editing mails.

    Try to use ALT-B on (set cursor into this line first)
    this text block if you quoted it.
    Very useful too
    for partial quotings.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Philipp Giebel on Fri May 12 11:24:36 2017

    On 2017 May 11 07:00:12, you wrote to Kai Richter:

    PS: Is there a shortkey for deleting complete lines in golded..?

    do you mean like the traditional CTRL-Y? CTRL-U will undelete them at the current cursor position...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Philipp Giebel on Sun May 14 16:03:14 2017
    Hello Philipp!

    10 May 2017 19:46, Philipp Giebel wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Good point, but how can I tell him when the only contact details I
    have are ftn akas..? ;)

    indeed, what came first, the chiken with the egg ? :=)

    maybe drop linuxnet ?
    I'ld rather not... I liked the idea of a linux ftn since I'm a linux admin for living, with a bbs running on linux for fun.. ..It just made
    so much sense.. ;)

    my point is one less aka to make working, but keep the talk on echomail/fileecho with linux

    rethink it

    I guess, I'll wait some longer - doesn't hurt me too much.. ;)

    good

    Gert missing to run hpt pack.......
    or some silly scripting fails in lock state
    Funny thing is: It all worked just fine the day before..

    possible his call logs maked the harddrive out of space ? :=)

    Then I changed a whole lot of stuff on my side: First I tried to unsubscribe from all echos. No response..

    bad

    Then changed the routing for LinuxNet anyway since I did it wrong in
    the first place and tried to resubscribe to all echos. No response..

    good

    Then I switched my complete setup from binkd+mystic to binkd+husky+golded(+mystic)...

    why ?

    So there's a fair chance I'm the one doing wrong...

    no, we dont know for sure what is the real problem

    after all you are here, be happy

    But I do know fido's working fine on my side.. So after having written several netmails over the last month, this echo was my last resort..
    ;)

    it should be your first imho

    i have set 2:230/150 down today
    So you can't reach him, too? It's not only me?

    well you can call him, but did you get answer from his filebot/echobot ?

    good is that its only /150, /152 seems works better, i still see random he try use /151 :/

    what he is doing is only speculating here, until we are sure, keep away from him, and dont send aplications forms anymore anywhere, imho fidonet do not need
    that, or did you send one to be on fidonet ?, shurgs


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to Kai Richter on Fri May 12 20:13:30 2017
    I remember a config problem of mine. An existing file causes the
    unpacker to ask for overwrite Y/N. Depending on the toss script it
    could block all further tossing by lockfiles. Did you try uncompressed netmails already?
    Of course not.. ;) I'll give it a try..

    Maybe he doesn't receive external mail at all, which should come
    to his attention sooner or later or it's just the routing for my,
    what do you call it, subnet? Like: No mail from 2:240/*
    I would call that a network, the 2:240/0 is the network coordinatior
    (NC).
    Oh! So I'm a Network Coordinator without an uplink.. ;D

    Does LinuxNet have its own zone number?
    Yes, 110. I'm 110:310/0 and /1, he is 110:300/0 and /1

    Then there's still a chance he sees the answer from 2:230/0 and
    wonders about the missing original post...
    Not if he was already set to the down status in the nodelist. In that
    case no other mailer would call him anymore.
    Damn! :D

    I'ld be very interested in knowing whether his fidonet uplink has
    problems reaching him, too, or not..
    Well, better discuss that via netmail with Benny. Your main goal is reached, anyone who knows Gert could see your request here.
    Okay, I will...

    You wrote the situation lasts since weeks. Maybe because of that Benny said he would put Gert to the down status. I don't know if that really
    Yeah, I feared so, too and noone should be set down because of what I say..! I'm just a noob, you know..? ;)

    PS: Is there a shortkey for deleting complete lines in golded..?
    Not really. ;) By default CTRL-Y removes a complete line. That's what
    you want but it's not a deletetion. It's a move into the buffer, you
    can call it back with CTRL-U. The buffer survives between editing
    mails.
    Awww... CTRL..! I did remember "something with Y", but always tried ALT.. :> Thanks a lot!

    Try to use ALT-B on (set cursor into this line first) this text block
    if you quoted it. Very useful too for partial quotings.
    Awesome! Now I only have to memorize it.. ;>

    Regards
    Kai
    Cheers,
    Philipp


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  • From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to mark lewis on Fri May 12 20:22:28 2017
    Hi mark!

    PS: Is there a shortkey for deleting complete lines in golded..?
    do you mean like the traditional CTRL-Y? CTRL-U will undelete them at
    the current cursor position...
    Yes, I did. Thank you! :)

    Cheers,
    Philipp


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  • From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to Benny Pedersen on Mon May 15 08:14:28 2017
    Hey Benny!

    I'ld rather not... I liked the idea of a linux ftn since I'm a
    linux admin for living, with a bbs running on linux for fun..
    ..It just made so much sense.. ;)
    my point is one less aka to make working, but keep the talk on echomail/fileecho with linux
    rethink it
    Well, that's part of the fun for me, so it's a no-brainer..

    Then changed the routing for LinuxNet anyway since I did it wrong
    in the first place and tried to resubscribe to all echos. No
    response..
    good
    Why?

    Then I switched my complete setup from binkd+mystic to
    binkd+husky+golded(+mystic)...
    why ?
    'Cause I wanted to. ;)
    There are a lot of reasons like mystic being pretty buggy in every concern, not
    having decent config-files but a proprietary configuration program bound to a resolution of 80x25, not being opensource, doing too much at once, but the first most reason is: 'Cause I wanted to.

    So there's a fair chance I'm the one doing wrong...
    no, we dont know for sure what is the real problem
    Which pretty much is the definition of "chances"... ;) Chances are, I'm the one
    doing wrong, chances are, he is doing wrong. The whole purpose of this thread is finding evidence like: Does his NC see any problems?

    So you can't reach him, too? It's not only me?
    well you can call him, but did you get answer from his filebot/echobot
    ?
    Yes, that's what I said.. ..But the question is: Do YOU (being his NC, I guess?) have the same problems? Does he still poll his mail? Is there still mail coming from his system? Did you try to write him the last month of two and
    did you get an answer?
    There should be no status-changes for him only because of what one single newbie, me, said..

    good is that its only /150, /152 seems works better, i still see
    random he try use /151 :/
    So 151 and 152 are his akas, too? I didn't check that, yet.. Will try sending hin netmails there, too... (He's 152, too - did check it now..)

    what he is doing is only speculating here, until we are sure, keep
    away from him, and dont send aplications forms anymore anywhere, imho fidonet do not need that, or did you send one to be on fidonet ?,
    shurgs
    Yes, I did.
    And I will continue "collecting" othernets, 'cause that's just part of the fun for me..
    I'm not a big writer nor reader on any of these ftn-networks, including fido, but what I do with a passion is configuring, installing, managing these networks and my ftn setup as a whole. As soon as one network is running stable,
    it's less interesting for me.. Fido's running perfectly since 2 years, so... ;)

    I guess we just have different approaches to this...

    Cheers,
    Philipp


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  • From Kai Richter@2:240/77 to Philipp Giebel on Mon May 15 15:19:18 2017
    Hello Philipp!

    12 May 17, Philipp Giebel wrote to Kai Richter:

    I would call that a network, the 2:240/0 is the network
    coordinatior (NC).
    Oh! So I'm a Network Coordinator without an uplink.. ;D

    Then LinuxNet may have other definitions of the /0 functions.

    Does LinuxNet have its own zone number?
    Yes, 110. I'm 110:310/0 and /1, he is 110:300/0 and /1

    Wonderful. Then all your trouble belongs to the othernet zone 110. It's so sad,
    a fidonet node was kicked because one of it's othernet zones have a problem.

    Then there's still a chance he sees the answer from 2:230/0 and
    wonders about the missing original post...
    Not if he was already set to the down status in the nodelist. In
    that case no other mailer would call him anymore.
    Damn! :D

    I was wrong. All Fidonet mailer can't call him now. Thanks to Zone 110 would have it's own nodelist and all LinuxNet Systems can still dial him.

    For Fidonet the situation isn't that bad either. Gert still have 2:230/152 activ. If you haven't tried that aka send CM or routed netmail to him.

    Awww... CTRL..! I did remember "something with Y",

    Try to use ALT-B on (set cursor into this line first) this text
    block if you quoted it. Very useful too for partial quotings.
    Awesome! Now I only have to memorize it.. ;>

    Use the f....ine build in manual reminder function by pressing F1.
    Scroll that with PgDn.

    Regards

    Kai

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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Kai Richter on Mon May 15 21:03:54 2017
    Hi Kai!

    15 May 2017 15:19, from Kai Richter -> Philipp Giebel:

    Try to use ALT-B on (set cursor into this line first) this text
    block if you quoted it. Very useful too for partial quotings.
    Awesome! Now I only have to memorize it.. ;>
    Use the f....ine build in manual reminder function by pressing F1.
    Scroll that with PgDn.

    You need it include the help file for this to work.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Philipp Giebel@2:240/5853.2 to Richard Menedetter on Tue May 16 07:16:08 2017
    Try to use ALT-B on (set cursor into this line first) this text
    block if you quoted it. Very useful too for partial quotings.
    Awesome! Now I only have to memorize it.. ;>
    Use the f....ine build in manual reminder function by pressing
    F1. Scroll that with PgDn.
    You need it include the help file for this to work.

    I have, I did, I just didn't see the line in question.. :/ Now I see it, of course.. ;)

    Cheers,
    Philipp


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