Hey Vasily!

Are you able to read his greeting properly?

I am posting below his msg which should answer the above question;

@MSGID: 2:5030/722.68 58bd64e1
@REPLY: 1:229/616 58b0ebc3
@PID: GED+DPMI 1.1.5-b20161221
@CHRS: CP866 2
@TZUTC: 0000
@TID: hpt/dpmi-djgpp 1.9.0-cur 24-06-16
Aa?oNrbropE, Vasily!
25 Feb 17 05:26, Vasily Losev !a>?ba2(a) Maurice Kinal:

Do you happen to know any active French-speaking echoes?

AFAIK there never was a significant need for Fido in France, they
had their nation-wide Minitel.
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Although not a faithful replication as I deleted blank limes and reformated one
sentence into two so that it will wordwrap appropriately for quoted text, it should show the Russian text as seen here. Note that when I save this message it will get converted back to CP866 and even insert a bogus CHRS kludge which of course is totally ignored at this end. However I thought some of you Russian types might appreciate it.

I still think utf-8 text messaging is best but just for the record will create this little demo that can fake out a CP866 Fidonet node. I have the power. How about you?

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

I am posting below his msg which should answer the above question;

Yes I see it right

I still think utf-8 text messaging is best but just for the record
will create this little demo that can fake out a CP866 Fidonet node.
I have the power. How about you?

I'm on UTF-8 as well.

Vasily


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Hey Vasily!

Yes I see it right

Too many hoops to jump through but it can be done if there is ever a need. At the moment there are zero Russians in the neighbourhood requesting a CP866 Fidonet wireless connection. I suspect that won't be changing soon.

I'm on UTF-8 as well.

-R-e-+-+-c-+-+! :-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

Too many hoops to jump through but it can be done if there is ever a
need. At the moment there are zero Russians in the neighbourhood requesting a CP866 Fidonet wireless connection. I suspect that won't
be changing soon.

What is Fidonet wireless connection?

Vasily


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Hey Vasily!

What is Fidonet wireless connection?

It started out as just a BBS running on wireless but it didn't get enough use to keep up developing for. At the moment I am thinking just binkd for msg and other file transfers. As we speak it isn't seeing much local traffic.

What do you think it should be? I am always open to suggestions.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Good ${greeting_time}, Maurice!

08 Mar 2017 14:30:56, you wrote to Vasily Losev:

What is Fidonet wireless connection?

It started out as just a BBS running on wireless but it didn't get
enough use to keep up developing for. At the moment I am thinking
just binkd for msg and other file transfers. As we speak it isn't
seeing much local traffic.

Some spy novels used the word "dead drop" to denote the place for secret information exchange... ughm, secret exchange of secret information. The "livedrops" could be a 21th century replacement for them.

What do you think it should be? I am always open to suggestions.

Hardware part: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/details/32754558554.html with optional USB flash stick. The box is 62*24*14 mm (L*W*H).

Software part: GNU/Linux for MIPS (possibly OpenWRT), binkd, hpt.

Implementation thoughts: disable SSID broadcast, transfer only encrypted (RSA4096+SHA2+Twofish256CFB) files.


Sorry, there are some idiots ringing at my door in the late eveni

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Hey Alexey!

Hardware part:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/details/32754558554.html

Right now I only have one router working and it's a Supermicro SYS-1017A-MP with a Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter for the wireless
part. It has two Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection to cover both a internet and intranet wired connections. A very nice little setup for sure.

Your idea looks interesting and definetly affordable. I'll have to investigate
it more.

Software part: GNU/Linux for MIPS (possibly OpenWRT), binkd, hpt.

I currently am running a bastardized Linux From Scratch on it, with hostapd for
the wireless connections, binkd on the internetted wired connection but have had it running on the wireless as well. I am using WeBeBashing instead of hpt but have been thinking about hpt if things get heavy traffic-wise on 1:153/7001. Both the wired and wireless connections aren't seeing enough traffic to worry about it and if it weren't for WeBeBashing I'd be totally bored with Fidonet and would have abandoned it ages ago.

Implementation thoughts: disable SSID broadcast, transfer only
encrypted (RSA4096+SHA2+Twofish256CFB) files.

I was doing a similar thing with wireless mesh with some success. The problem with mesh is that it is extremely selective about wireless chipsets and there aren't many readily available that can handle it, which might actually be a good thing. However at the moment I have one neighbour who needs me to be running hostapd so she can connect with her Android based smartphone. Too bad they can't mesh as that would definetly make them far more useful. As is they make good paperweights ... as long as they don't catch fire. ;-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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On 2017 Mar 08 22:00:00, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:

Implementation thoughts: disable SSID broadcast, transfer only
encrypted (RSA4096+SHA2+Twofish256CFB) files.

FWIW: disablling SSID broadcasting isn't as secure as one might think... everything that is connected broadcast that SSID anyway and one only need sniff
the airwaves for a little while to find it...

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Hey mark!

disablling SSID broadcasting isn't as secure as one might think

I like the mesh idea except it uses a similar strategy called a meshid so you're not really gaining anything there when talking about wireless scanners.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Good ${greeting_time}, Maurice!

08 Mar 2017 19:37:28, you wrote to me:

Hardware part:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/details/32754558554.html

Right now I only have one router working and it's a Supermicro SYS-1017A-MP with a Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter for the wireless part. It has two Intel Corporation 82574L
Gigabit Network Connection to cover both a internet and intranet
wired connections. A very nice little setup for sure.

However, it's slightly bigger than 62*24*14 mm box with RT5350F inside.

Also, these devices have some not-yet-TBA applications.

Your idea looks interesting and definetly affordable. I'll have to investigate it more.

If you need just a livedrop, simply install OpenWRT and rsync.

Implementation thoughts: disable SSID broadcast, transfer only
encrypted (RSA4096+SHA2+Twofish256CFB) files.

I was doing a similar thing with wireless mesh with some success.
The problem with mesh is that it is extremely selective about
wireless chipsets and there aren't many readily available that can
handle it, which might actually be a good thing.

Unlikely. The wireless devices may (and generally should) be promiscuous on supporting different peers, including possibly buggy ones - but the wireless connection must always be considered unsafe and insecure, just like "wild" Internet is.

However at the moment I have one neighbour who needs me to be running hostapd so she can connect with her Android based smartphone. Too bad
they can't mesh as that would definetly make them far more useful.

The "star" topology with AP in the center and several clients is much more effective, so you may like to install dedicated AP and assign a separate VLAN for it.

As is they make good paperweights ... as long as they don't catch
fire. ;-)

Low-voltage devices generally don't. Improperly engigeered power supplies do.


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Good ${greeting_time}, mark!

08 Mar 2017 15:03:54, you wrote to me:

Implementation thoughts: disable SSID broadcast, transfer only
encrypted (RSA4096+SHA2+Twofish256CFB) files.

FWIW: disablling SSID broadcasting isn't as secure as one might
think... everything that is connected broadcast that SSID anyway
and one only need sniff the airwaves for a little while to find
it...

Yes.
However, for ${subj} you normally want the device to not announce itself.


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Hey Alexey!

it's slightly bigger than 62*24*14 mm box with RT5350F inside.

Slightly more expensive too. I believe the wireless RT2870/RT3070 wireless adapter alone is slightly more expensive although I think it might have a greater range. It's an indoor/outdoor panel type device.

Also, these devices have some not-yet-TBA applications.

Same with mine. ;-) Speaking of which one of them could easily be an access point for a wireless CP866 Fidonet Russian sysop if it needed to be one. I already tested it out in this echo and it seems to work just fine. Also considering all the other possible encodings available to it I am thinking it would also make a great access point to almost any Fidonet sysop in the world no matter what language they speak. I am not convinced your proposed system can make the same claim ... without some serious hacking that is.

If you need just a livedrop, simply install OpenWRT and rsync.

I am not sure. I still need to investigate it more but offhand I am guessing I'll need a mips cross compiler, which I believe is doable, if I am going to make it as capable as I'd like it to be. Offhand I am guessing I'll need to hack it.

but the wireless connection must always be considered unsafe and
insecure

Yes. I'm always looking to improve/change things to stay ahead of the game. As it sits today the clients are the weakest links. :::knock on wood:::

Low-voltage devices generally don't. Improperly engigeered power
supplies do.

So I've heard. Nobody I know bought one of those so it was never an issue in this neck of the woods. In this neighbourhood all of the ones within range are
all older 32 bit Android based ones. There was one iPhone and iPad not too long ago but she moved. For the record both did work with the setup here but she was just barely within range.

Life is good,
Maurice

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On 2017 Mar 08 23:55:32, you wrote to me:

Implementation thoughts: disable SSID broadcast, transfer only
encrypted (RSA4096+SHA2+Twofish256CFB) files.

FWIW: disablling SSID broadcasting isn't as secure as one might
think... everything that is connected broadcast that SSID anyway and
one only need sniff the airwaves for a little while to find it...

Yes.
However, for ${subj} you normally want the device to not announce itself.

livedrop vs deaddrop? yeah well, sure but that livedrop that isn't announcing itself will be found sooner than a deaddrop would be... radio waves being tracable and all that ya know ;)

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Aa?oNrbropE, Maurice!

08 Mar 17 01:04, Maurice Kinal !a>?ba2(a) Vasily Losev:

Too many hoops to jump through but it can be done if there is ever a
need. At the moment there are zero Russians in the neighbourhood requesting a CP866 Fidonet wireless connection. I suspect that won't
be changing soon.

So mush arguing over virtually nothing :)
The meaningful part of my msgs is written in english, so they can be read/replyed by everyone internationally without any problems. While that template-parts can be just ignored, 'cause everyone knows there's nothing more than greetings and signature to it.

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Hey Alexander!

Personally I don't have a problem with any of your messages. I just don't share your enthusiasm for CP866 characters. I think if I were a Russian sysop I am sure I'd be more enthusiastic about KOI8-R characters instead but hopefully I'd have the good sense to see the writing on the wall and go with UTF-8.

Life is good,
Maurice

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