Interesting...
,10,Internet,Finland,UUCP,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,XA,IBN,INA: [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:10],GUUCP,U,ENC
A literal IPv6 address. And ONLY an IPv6 address. So this node is not reachable via IPv4 and therefore should carry the INO4 flag.
A literal IPv6 address. And ONLY an IPv6 address. So this node is
not reachable via IPv4 and therefore should carry the INO4 flag.
Correct.
But how many mailers can understand INO4 flag?
I don't: INO4 makes some sense only with DNS names.
I don't: INO4 makes some sense only with DNS names.
I would like to disagree with you, that Binkd keeps on trying a IPv4
connection if only an IPv6 address is available.
Moreover, Binkd has no knowledge of the Nodelist. It is the task of
the intermediate software, that converts te Nodelist to Binkd's
version to translate the INO4 to a "-6", or to exclude the node if the list is prepared for a ipv4 only node.
I don't know. Some mailers like Frontdoor and Intermail have the
option of user configurable flags. When I still used InterMail, I
could configure it to never call out to nodes flying the INO4 flag. In
the case of INO4 only usefull in combination with a shim to let it do
EMSI over telnet. Maybe MBSE can deal with it. I do not know.
Of course if the nodelist does not show the flag, mailer builders will have no reason to implement it in their software. Chicken and egg...
Plus that mailers are not the only ones reading the nodelist. The
nodelist statistics as published every week in Fidonews, include the
INO4 flag. The nodelist lookup function of Golded also displays it.
MBSE does not have any specific support for the INO4 flag. In the
case of a literal IPv6 address listed in the INA flag, it should
attempt to dial using that IPv6 address. If that fails, the node will
end up marked undialable after the configured number of attempts.
MBSE's current implementation really doesn't need to use the INO4
flag. It gets address information from the nodelist, or can be
overridden by entering a hostname or IP address for the node in the
setup program.
The primary purpose of the nodelist is to allow nodes to communicate
with each other.
A literal IPv6 address. And ONLY an IPv6 address. So this node is
not reachable via IPv4 and therefore should carry the INO4 flag.
Correct.
So will we see it tomorrow?
But how many mailers can understand INO4 flag?
I don't know. Some mailers like Frontdoor and Intermail have the option of user configurable flags.
Moreover, Binkd has no knowledge of the Nodelist.
It is the task of the intermediate software, that converts te
Nodelist to Binkd's version to translate the INO4 to a "-6", or to
exclude the node if the list is prepared for a ipv4 only node.
Moreover, Binkd has no knowledge of the Nodelist.
With perl support, yes it has. There is nodelist.pl in the binkd package.
It is the task of the intermediate software, that converts te
Nodelist to Binkd's version to translate the INO4 to a "-6", or to
exclude the node if the list is prepared for a ipv4 only node.
At least this bash script strips '[' and ']' so that the output will be like this:
#!/bin/bash
# nl2binkd v1.06
# (c) 2012-2013 by Markus Reschke
It is the task of the intermediate software, that converts te
Nodelist to Binkd's version to translate the INO4 to a "-6", or to
exclude the node if the list is prepared for a ipv4 only node.
At least this bash script strips '[' and ']' so that the output will
be like this:
#!/bin/bash
# nl2binkd v1.06
# (c) 2012-2013 by Markus Reschke
At least this bash script strips '[' and ']' so that the output will[..]
be like this:
#!/bin/bash
# nl2binkd v1.06
# (c) 2012-2013 by Markus Reschke
This makes binkd fail.
At least this bash script strips '[' and ']' so that the output will
be like this:
It is the task of the intermediate software, that converts te
Nodelist to Binkd's version to translate the INO4 to a "-6", or to
exclude the node if the list is prepared for a ipv4 only node.
At least this bash script strips '[' and ']' so that the output will
be like this:
#!/bin/bash
# nl2binkd v1.06
# (c) 2012-2013 by Markus Reschke
No worries! The next version will support the INO4 flag ;)
Still there's the question about listing only an IPv6 address with or without the INO4 flag. INO4 would be redundant, but it would simplify the software side.
Some mailers like Frontdoor and Intermail have the option of user
configurable flags.
Every mailer could be configured per node. But my point was if there
is a mailer that can understand the INO4 flag and try connection only
by IPv6. Without any custom configuration.
I agree with Alexey, if there is ipv6 address in the nodelist, the
INO4 flag is useless.
2:221/10 is up now and binkp.net resolves it ok.
No worries! The next version will support the INO4 flag ;)
I knew it! ;)
#!/bin/bash
# nl2binkd v1.06
# (c) 2012-2013 by Markus Reschke
No worries! The next version will support the INO4 flag ;)
Still there's the question about listing only an IPv6 address with or without the INO4 flag. INO4 would be redundant,
but it would simplify the software side.
Still there's the question about listing only an IPv6 address
with or without the INO4 flag. INO4 would be redundant, but it
would simplify the software side.
Yes. INO4 flag shouldn't do any harm even if it is there with IPv6 address.
You can frequest v1.08 (magic "NL2BINKD") ;)
If the INO4 flag is detected the node option -6 will be set. I've also added a new command switch "-6" to filter (remove) IPv6-only nodes,
i.e. the ones with an INO4 flag. The script doesn't resolve FQDNs to
check for AAAA-only RRs, because the DNS of some nodes isn't reliable.
And all the trouble for just one single node which got an INO4 flag :)
And all the trouble for just one single node which got an INO4 flag :)
You can frequest v1.08 (magic "NL2BINKD") ;)
If the INO4 flag is detected the node option -6 will be set. I've also added a new command switch "-6" to filter (remove) IPv6-only nodes, i.e. the ones with an INO4 flag. The script doesn't resolve FQDNs to check for AAAA-only RRs, because the DNS of some nodes isn't reliable.
And all the trouble for just one single node which got an INO4 flag :)
andYes. INO4 flag shouldn't do any harm even if it is there with IPv6
address.
If it does no harm, please humour those who think there is a use for it
list 221/10 with the INO4 flag.
26 Apr 17 16:36, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:
And all the trouble for just one single node which got an INO4 flag :)
Not really true, the is another one, that has been in de nodelist for
over 3 years now.
No, it is different. Strictly speaking -the INO4 flag is about IPv4. It means that the node in question does NOT have incoming IPv4 capability.
OT-Ttrack can act on nodelist flags. From the doc:
/IfFlags="data;data;...;data"
And all the trouble for just one single node which got an INO4 flag
:)
Not really true, the is another one, that has been in de nodelist
for over 3 years now. The only difference is that that node sports a
DNS hostname.
By the way, you make regular connects to that node ;)
If it does no harm, please humour those who think there is a use
for it and list 221/10 with the INO4 flag.
I have done it already. I wonder why it is not on dailylist #117.
BTW: "humour" ? :D
OT-Ttrack can act on nodelist flags. From the doc:
/IfFlags="data;data;...;data"
From my command.ot :
Attr /Adr=* /IfFlags="IBN" /Attr=C
BTW: "humour" ? :D
Yep. "humour". With "ou". ;-)
I have done it already. I wonder why it is not on dailylist #117.
I see only one :)
$ grep ",INO4" nodelist/NODELIST.111 ,5006,Raspberry_Fido,Heerhugowaard,Kees_van_Eeten,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO, I
BN: fido6.ddutch.nl,INO4,U,ENC
By the way, you make regular connects to that node ;)
Hmm, I can't remember. Are you sure? Maybe ask me again later after I had my first cup of coffee :)
If it does no harm, please humour those who think there is a use
for it and list 221/10 with the INO4 flag.
I have done it already. I wonder why it is not on dailylist #117.
BTW: "humour" ? :D
Yep. "humour". With "ou". ;-)
Totally unknown word as a verb for me. Until nnow. :)
BTW: "humour" ? :D
Yep. "humour". With "ou". ;-)
Totally unknown word as a verb for me. Until nnow. :)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
# Origin: 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:0 (2:221/0)
# Origin: 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:0 (2:221/0)
Square brackets missing. <RADF> ;-)
Square brackets missing. <RADF> ;-)
Not needed in OS/2!
28 Apr 17 16:33, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
Square brackets missing. <RADF> ;-)
Not needed in OS/2!
Of course not, since OS/2 doesn't support IPv6.
Hello Tommi! 28 Apr 17 16:33, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:
Square brackets missing. <RADF> ;-)
Not needed in OS/2!Of course not, since OS/2 doesn't support IPv6.
Square brackets missing. <RADF> ;-)
Not needed in OS/2!
Of course not, since OS/2 doesn't support IPv6.And in all likehood never will.
Of course not, since OS/2 doesn't support IPv6.
And in all likehood never will.
You never know.. ArcaOS will be released pretty soon.
Of course not, since OS/2 doesn't support IPv6.
And in all likehood never will.
You never know.. ArcaOS will be released pretty soon.
I'll believe it when I see it, EcomStation also promised IPv6 support.
BTW: "humour" ? :D
Yep. "humour". With "ou". ;-)
Totally unknown word as a verb for me. Until nnow. :)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
Yes.
Re: IPv6 only node?
By: Tommi Koivula to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Apr 27 2017
21:19:46
BTW: "humour" ? :D
Yep. "humour". With "ou". ;-)
Totally unknown word as a verb for me. Until nnow. :)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
,10,Internet,Finland,UUCP,-Unpublished-,9600,CM,IBN, INA:[2001:41d0:401:3100::1030],INO4,GUUCP,U,ENC H|- you changed the
IP address from a he.net address to something native?
Re: IPv6 only node?
By: Tommi Koivula to Joe Delahaye on Fri Apr 28 2017 10:27:50
BTW: "humour" ? :D
Yep. "humour". With "ou". ;-)
Totally unknown word as a verb for me. Until nnow. :)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
Yes.I meant to put a smiley at the end of that question. It had been
a long day with outside work all day in 27C heat. That is not fun
at any time but even worse when you get to be retired, or as I
read in a joke someplace, "retarted" :)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
You know that we're aware of it and have forsaken it, but you still have to be you. (-:
I meant to put a smiley at the end of that question. It had been
a long day with outside work all day in 27C heat. That is not fun
at any time but even worse when you get to be retired, or as I
read in a joke someplace, "retarted" :)
Smileys are not always needed. :D :D
Joe Delahaye wrote to Tommi Koivula <=-
I meant to put a smiley at the end of that question. It had been a
long day with outside work all day in 27C heat. That is not fun at any time but even worse when you get to be retired, or as I read in a joke
Re: IPv6 only node?
By: Tommi Koivula to Joe Delahaye on Sat Apr 29 2017 15:25:51
I meant to put a smiley at the end of that question. It had
been a long day with outside work all day in 27C heat. That is
not fun at any time but even worse when you get to be retired,
or as I read in a joke someplace, "retarted" :)
Smileys are not always needed. :D :D:) BTW, while it is my text up above, they are not my initials
Re: IPv6 only node?
By: Roger Nelson to Joe Delahaye on Sat Apr 29 2017 04:36:45
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
You know that we're aware of it and have forsaken it, but you still have to be you. (-:
Of Course <G>. I will always be me, even without the extraneous
(in the USA) 'U" :)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
You know that we're aware of it and have forsaken it, but you still have
to be you. (-:
Of Course <G>. I will always be me, even without the extraneous
(in the USA) 'U" :)
That's up to you, of course. (-:
I meant to put a smiley at the end of that question. It had been a
long day with outside work all day in 27C heat. That is not fun at
any time but even worse when you get to be retired, or as I read in
a joke
27C? That's a pleasant summer's day for work where I am. :P
Re: IPv6 only node?
By: Tommi Koivula to Joe Delahaye on Sat Apr 29 2017 15:25:51
I meant to put a smiley at the end of that question. It had
been a long day with outside work all day in 27C heat. That is
not fun at any time but even worse when you get to be retired,
or as I read in a joke someplace, "retarted" :)
Smileys are not always needed. :D :D
:) BTW, while it is my text up above, they are not my initials
Interesting. The reason may be how jamnntpd shows the from field.. Both sender and recipient there.
So the initials are my first name and your last name. ;)
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
You know that we're aware of it and have forsaken it, but you still
have to be you. (-:
Of Course <G>. I will always be me, even without the extraneous
(in the USA) 'U" :)
That's up to you, of course. (-:
You do know that "humor" is the US spelling of humour?
You know that we're aware of it and have forsaken it, but you
still have
to be you. (-:
Of Course <G>. I will always be me, even without the extraneous
(in the USA) 'U" :)
That's up to you, of course. (-:
Is any of this really IPv6 related?
Just asking...
Joe Delahaye wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
27C? That's a pleasant summer's day for work where I am. :P
Perhaps when you are younger <G>. Its no fun when you are removing
fence posts and digging holes to replace said fence posts.
Perhaps when you are younger <G>. Its no fun when you are removing
fence posts and digging holes to replace said fence posts.
I'm talking about now, in my late 40s. :) If I couldn't handle working in 27C, that would be half the year I couldn't work! :) And yes, I actually did dig holes for fence posts late last year in those conditions, or the other time where I dug a trench by hand in 30+ weather. They couldn't get a machine in, it was too close to a shed and uneven ground to operate a digger.
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