Hi All!

Sixxs will close down completely:
https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/

CU, Ricsi

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Hello Richard,

On Thursday March 23 2017 16:31, you wrote to All:

Sixxs will close down completely:
https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/

I just got an e-mail from Pim van Pelt announcing shutdown on june 6, 2017.

Pity, but it was expected wasn't it?


Cheers, Michiel

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On Thursday March 23 2017 16:31, Richard Menedetter wrote to All:

Sixxs will close down completely:
https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/

I just got an e-mail from Pim van Pelt announcing shutdown on june 6, 2017.

Pity, but it was expected wasn't it?

I see that we have two nodes using a SixXs tunnel. So the damage for Fidonet is

limited.

However... If it is true that what SixXs claims, that ISPs are using the availability of Tunnel brokers as an excuse for delaying the introduction of native IPv6, others like he.net may come to the same conclusion and shut down as well. We have 16 nodes using a tunnel from he.net...


Cheers, Michiel

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Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

23 Mar 2017 22:29:44, you wrote to All:

https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/

Pity, but it was expected wasn't it?

MvdV> I see that we have two nodes using a SixXs tunnel.
MvdV> So the damage for Fidonet is limited.

Other tunnel brokers may follow.

MvdV> However... If it is true that what SixXs claims, that ISPs are
MvdV> using the availability of Tunnel brokers as an excuse for delaying
MvdV> the introduction of native IPv6,

... and this is likely to be true...

MvdV> others like he.net may come to the same conclusion and shut down
MvdV> as well. We have 16 nodes using a tunnel from he.net...

So they are also expected to demand native IPv6 support from their ISPs.


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On 03/23/17, Richard Menedetter pondered and said...

Hi All!

Sixxs will close down completely:
https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/

Just got an email :(

Will need to run with Plan B... now what is Plan B :)

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On 03/23/17, Michiel van der Vlist pondered and said...

I see that we have two nodes using a SixXs tunnel. So the damage for Fidonet is limited.

Speak for yourself :)

I'll try and look at he.net in the coming weeks. I have no immediate hope of native IPv6 so *hopefully* this will allow me to remain.

Best, Paul

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Hello Alexey,

On Friday March 24 2017 06:12, you wrote to me:

Other tunnel brokers may follow.

I have not seen coments from he.net yet. But indeed other may follow.

MvdV>> However... If it is true that what SixXs claims, that ISPs are
MvdV>> using the availability of Tunnel brokers as an excuse for
MvdV>> delaying the introduction of native IPv6,

... and this is likely to be true...

Possibly. I have no way to fact check that claim and I have not heard it from my ISP when I complained about the slow roll out of IPv6. It is also not mentioned here:

http://ipv6bingo.com/

MvdV>> others like he.net may come to the same conclusion and shut
MvdV>> down as well. We have 16 nodes using a tunnel from he.net...

So they are also expected to demand native IPv6 support from their
ISPs.

Indeed. So everyone using a tunnel write to your ISP and demand native IPv6. Threatening to take your business elsewhere may help...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Paul,

On Friday March 24 2017 16:56, you wrote to me:

I see that we have two nodes using a SixXs tunnel. So the damage
for Fidonet is limited.

Speak for yourself :)

I did. ;-)

I'll try and look at he.net in the coming weeks. I have no immediate
hope of native IPv6 so *hopefully* this will allow me to remain.

1) Complain to your ISP. Threaten to take your business elsewhere if they do nothing. Entice others in your area to do the same.

2) he.net offers a stable and reliable service. I now have native IPv6 but I have used a tunnel from them for many years. I amconfidentit will work for you too.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel!

Mar 23 22:29 2017, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

MvdV> However... If it is true that what SixXs claims, that ISPs are
MvdV> using the availability of Tunnel brokers as an excuse for delaying
MvdV> the introduction of native IPv6, others like he.net may come to the
MvdV> same conclusion and shut down as well. We have 16 nodes using a
MvdV> tunnel from he.net...

I think SixXs is trying to soothe users with a lame excuse.

ciao,
Markus

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Hello Paul!

Mar 24 16:56 2017, Paul Hayton wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

I'll try and look at he.net in the coming weeks. I have no immediate
hope of native IPv6 so *hopefully* this will allow me to remain.

OpenWrt has built-in support for HEnet tunnels ;)

Regards,
Markus

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Hello Markus,

On Friday March 24 2017 11:25, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> However... If it is true that what SixXs claims, that ISPs are
MvdV>> using the availability of Tunnel brokers as an excuse for
MvdV>> delaying the introduction of native IPv6, others like he.net
MvdV>> may come to the same conclusion and shut down as well. We have
MvdV>> 16 nodes using a tunnel from he.net...

I think SixXs is trying to soothe users with a lame excuse.

Possibly. As I said, I have no way to fact check that claim.

I suspect Jeroen and Tim are frustrated that tunnels are still in demand and that they just got tired of it.

I can't blame them really.


Cheers, Michiel

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Good ${greeting_time}, Markus!

24 Mar 2017 11:31:40, you wrote to Paul Hayton:

I'll try and look at he.net in the coming weeks. I have no
immediate hope of native IPv6 so *hopefully* this will allow
me to remain.

OpenWrt has built-in support for HEnet tunnels ;)

Any GNU/Linux system has it, and setting up the tunnel is as simple as:

ip tunnel add tun6 mode sit local x.x.x.x remote y.y.y.y ttl 255
ip link set dev tun6 up
ip addr add 2001:db8:::2/64 dev tun6
ip route replace ::/0 dev tun6


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On 3/24/2017 5:54 AM, Michiel van der Vlist -> Markus Reschke wrote:

I think SixXs is trying to soothe users with a lame excuse.

MvdV> Possibly. As I said, I have no way to fact check that claim.

MvdV> I suspect Jeroen and Tim are frustrated that tunnels are still in demand
MvdV> and that they just got tired of it.

MvdV> I can't blame them really.

There was also the stats pages they showed. If I remember right, only 8 new users in all of 2016? If that were true, it's not really worth it anymore seeing as though there were thousands a few years prior.

Hopefully it does indeed kick more ISPs in the pants to move things along a little faster.

Also, while I'm posting.. I may as well let you know that TWC has been merged with another provider (I believe Charter) and is now called "Spectrum". So if you would update the IPv6 list when you have the time. Thanks!

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Hello Nicholas,

On Friday March 24 2017 06:47, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> I suspect Jeroen and Pim are frustrated that tunnels are still
MvdV>> in demand and that they just got tired of it.

MvdV>> I can't blame them really.

There was also the stats pages they showed. If I remember right, only
8 new users in all of 2016?

Zero new users and 8 new tunnels in 2016.

If that were true, it's not really worth it anymore seeing as though
there were thousands a few years prior.

It is true. But... They stopped accepting new users in Dec 2015 and stopped accepting requests for new tunnels in April 2016. So those figures are no surprise...

Hopefully it does indeed kick more ISPs in the pants to move things
along a little faster.

Let's hope...

Also, while I'm posting.. I may as well let you know that TWC has been merged with another provider (I believe Charter) and is now called "Spectrum". So if you would update the IPv6 list when you have the
time. Thanks!

Done.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello All,

Thursday March 23 2017 22:29, I wrote to you:

However... If it is true that what SixXs claims, that ISPs are using
the availability of Tunnel brokers as an excuse for delaying the introduction of native IPv6, others like he.net may come to the same conclusion and shut down as well.

OTOH... Now that SixXs shuts down their FREE service, he and others may see this as a good moment to start charging for theirs...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel!

Mar 24 11:54 2017, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

MvdV> I suspect Jeroen and Tim are frustrated that tunnels are still in
MvdV> demand and that they just got tired of it.

MvdV> I can't blame them really.

Neither do I. But being frank can be refreshing. I think I've read and heard too much marketing/PR BS the last months.

Cheers,
Markus

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Hello Alexey!

Mar 24 13:55 2017, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Markus Reschke:

Any GNU/Linux system has it, and setting up the tunnel is as simple
as:

ip tunnel add tun6 mode sit local x.x.x.x remote y.y.y.y ttl 255
ip link set dev tun6 up
ip addr add 2001:db8:::2/64 dev tun6
ip route replace ::/0 dev tun6

... and a little script for updating your current IPv4 WAN address on HE's webpage, in case you got a dynamic IPv4 address.

Regards,
Markus

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:31:40 +0100 Markus Reschke wrote:

OpenWrt has built-in support for HEnet tunnels ;)

As well as dd-wrt. ;)

'Tommi

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:17:33 +0100 Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

MvdV> 2) he.net offers a stable and reliable service.

They also offer static /64, which I prefer over the dynamic shit from my isp.

'Tommi

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x) Friday Mar 24, 2017, 16:53. Paul Hayton -- Richard Menedetter.

Sixxs will close down completely:
https://www.sixxs.net/sunset/

Just got an email :(
Will need to run with Plan B... now what is Plan B :)

https://tunnelbroker.net/

http://tb.netassist.ua/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IPv6_tunnel_brokers

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Hello Markus,

On Friday March 24 2017 14:11, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> I suspect Jeroen and Pim are frustrated that tunnels are still
MvdV>> in demand and that they just got tired of it.

MvdV>> I can't blame them really.

Neither do I. But being frank can be refreshing. I think I've read and heard too much marketing/PR BS the last months.

I have heard nothing from them for a long time until I got their sunset message.

Yes, frank can be refreshing, and there is lot I could say. There is a reason I

switched to he.net, but I see no gain in kicking a dead horse. They did provide

a valuable free service to the Internet community for 18 years and now it ends.

Let's move on.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Tommi,

On Friday March 24 2017 16:24, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> 2) he.net offers a stable and reliable service.

They also offer static /64, which I prefer over the dynamic shit from
my isp.

Or they give you a /48. Also static.

But... I never could reach full speed via the tunnel. 60% at best. With native

IPv6 I now have the full speed. Only a /56 but that is enough for my needs. I haven't figured out yet how to use anything beyond the first /64. And in theory

it is dynamic but my IP's (4 and 6) have not changed sice I installed my present modem/router now almost four month ago.

So I am a happy camper with native IPv6. ;-)



Cheers, Michiel

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Paul Hayton wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

Just got an email :(

Will need to run with Plan B... now what is Plan B :)

I got one too, as I have a tunnel that was originally for my VPS, but is now just a backup route, so no biggie when it goes down. The site now has native.


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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Alexey Vissarionov <=-

Indeed. So everyone using a tunnel write to your ISP and demand native IPv6. Threatening to take your business elsewhere may help...

In Australia, Internode offer IPv6, so it need not be an empty threat. They're able to cover most of the country, having arrangements with both the DSL operators and NBN. That's where I get my native IPv6 from (one of the reasons I chose them in the first place, back when they were running trials).


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On 03/24/17, Tony Langdon pondered and said...

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Got one reply from you, then this empty one?

Just FYI

Best, Paul

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Paul Hayton wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Got one reply from you, then this empty one?

Yeah, I dunno why sometimes the system likes to eat my text. :(


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On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 18:01:21 +0100 Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

MvdV> Or they give you a /48. Also static.

Yes, but /64 is quite enough for me. :)

MvdV> But... I never could reach full speed via the tunnel. 60% at best.

My ADSL line is so slow that I can get the full speed via the HE tunnel.

I really don't care about the speed anyways... 10M is fast enough, for now.

'Tommi

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On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:12:00 +1000 Tony Langdon wrote:

Yeah, I dunno why sometimes the system likes to eat my text. :(

Too much bad language? ;)

'Tommi

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Tommi Koivula wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Yeah, I dunno why sometimes the system likes to eat my text. :(

Too much bad language? ;)

LOL, did I say "Windows"? :P


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Hello Tommi,

On Saturday March 25 2017 08:10, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> But... I never could reach full speed via the tunnel. 60% at
MvdV>> best.

My ADSL line is so slow that I can get the full speed via the HE
tunnel.

I really don't care about the speed anyways... 10M is fast enough, for now.

I don't need the speed either. I presently have 40 Mbps, the lowest supscription my ISP offers. Last night I briefly fired up my SixXs tunnel, just

to see if it still worked and I got 11 Mbps. Fast enough for me, but what frustrated me is that I could never figure out /why/ I could not ge the full speed. I never found the bottleneck. Others in my area in similar cicumstances easely got speeds in excess of 100 Mbps via SixXs.

Well, I will never know, it is history, I now have native IPv6 and I have the same speed on IPv6 as on IPv4.

Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Paul!

24 Mar 2017 16:53, from Paul Hayton -> Richard Menedetter:

Will need to run with Plan B... now what is Plan B :)

Mine was he.net
works fine here.

CU, Ricsi

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On 03/27/17, Richard Menedetter pondered and said...

Will need to run with Plan B... now what is Plan B :)

Mine was he.net
works fine here.

Thanks Ricsi... I'm working on this as well :)

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Richard Menedetter wrote to Paul Hayton <=-

Will need to run with Plan B... now what is Plan B :)

Mine was he.net
works fine here.

Sounds like a good Plan B. he.net is probably the most reliable tunnel broker I've ever used. For me, academic now, but their service has been flawless when I have used it.


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Time for some IPv6 service again? 8-)

? 05 Apr 15:21:30 [1852] connection to 2:221/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10060} Connection timed out
05 Apr 15:21:30 [1852] trying rbb.ath.cx [88.114.128.113]:24554...
05 Apr 15:21:30 [1852] connected




..

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Time for some IPv6 service again? 8-)

There is always the old and reliable IPv4. 8-)

? 05 Apr 15:21:30 [1852] connection to 2:221/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10060} Connection timed out
05 Apr 15:21:30 [1852] trying rbb.ath.cx [88.114.128.113]:24554...
05 Apr 15:21:30 [1852] connected

But yes indeed, the linux box did the same thing than last time. Just rebooted it, please see what happens.

You may also use the static addresses:

[2001:470:27:a::2]
[2001:41d0:401:3100::1030]

as alternatives for my main system.

'Tommi

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rebooted it, please see what happens.

This happened:

+ 05 Apr 16:14:31 [3620] call to 2:221/1@fidonet
05 Apr 16:14:31 [3620] trying rbb.ath.cx [2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:1]...
05 Apr 16:14:32 [3620] connected

You may also use the static addresses:

Nah, that's cheating! I rather stick to good old IPv4 if IPv6 fails. 8-)




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