• Elisa

    From Tommi Koivula@1:2320/100 to Björn Felten on Sun Dec 4 10:05:34 2016
    Hi Bjorn.

    03 Dec 16 08:59, you wrote to me:

    :f1d0:2:221:6 (2:221/6)

    I must say that I just love the above. Beautiful!

    Sure. :) Not originally my idea.

    'Tommi

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  • From Tommi Koivula@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Dec 4 10:07:20 2016
    Hi Michiel.

    03 Dec 16 11:18, you wrote to me:

    Have you called your ISP? If so what was their response?

    I asked once. The answer was something like "and how would it make
    your life better with the ipv6 support in your adsl line?"

    Unfuckingbelievable.

    Indeed. There is no compettion on the dsl,

    No. But as stated before, so far I'm happy with the HE tunnel.

    so you can take your bussines elsewhere?

    My business IS elsewhere. <g>

    'Tommi

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Sun Dec 4 11:15:06 2016
    Hello Michiel,

    On 03 Dec 16 22:37, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    The IPv6 may be different. It has not changes since I activited my
    present modem/router last week. It is a bit too early to tell how
    stable it will be. A guy on the Dutch IPv6 forum who lives near here
    and has the same CPE, says his prefix has changed twice in the last
    six month.

    I've had it change on me twice in two weeks, and now this time around it hasn't changed in almost a month. So I'm unsure as to whether they're still messing around with stuff on their end (most likely), or why it's changing at completely random intervals yet.

    He too says, the change happened with no obvious link to something he
    did.

    He also says he has a script to automatically update the DNS. It is
    tuned to the API od his DNA provider so it will probably not work for
    me. Anyway, if it only changes twice a year, automatic update is not
    high on my lisy of priorities.

    It's not aggrivating yet, so I'll stick with what I'm doing currently. If things get more stable, I may go back to using the fancy static fido IPv6 address. But as long as my prefix keeps changing at random, I'd rather just stick with the dynamic setup and have to manually update less things when the need arises.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Dec 4 22:11:46 2016
    Hello Tommi,

    On Sunday December 04 2016 10:09, you wrote to me:

    Indeed. There is no compettion on the dsl,

    No. But as stated before, so far I'm happy with the HE tunnel.

    Good for you...

    so you can take your bussines elsewhere?

    My business IS elsewhere. <g>

    How about taking your hobby elsewhere? <g>


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boël on Sun Dec 4 23:06:36 2016
    Hello Nicholas,

    On Sunday December 04 2016 11:09, you wrote to me:

    The IPv6 may be different. It has not changed since I activited
    my present modem/router last week. It is a bit too early to tell
    how stable it will be. A guy on the Dutch IPv6 forum who lives
    near here and has the same CPE, says his prefix has changed twice
    in the last six month.

    I've had it change on me twice in two weeks, and now this time around
    it hasn't changed in almost a month.

    Once a week would certainly be an incentive to start looking for a way to automate it...

    So I'm unsure as to whether they're still messing around with stuff on their end (most likely), or why it's changing at completely random intervals yet.

    Just give it some more time.

    He also says he has a script to automatically update the DNS. It
    is tuned to the API od his DNA provider so it will probably not
    work for me. Anyway, if it only changes twice a year, automatic
    update is not high on my lisy of priorities.

    It's not aggrivating yet, so I'll stick with what I'm doing currently.

    So will I. If t settles down to changing two or three times a year, I can live with it.

    If things get more stable, I may go back to using the fancy static
    fido IPv6 address. But as long as my prefix keeps changing at random,
    I'd rather just stick with the dynamic setup and have to manually
    update less things when the need arises.

    I had the fancy address installed too for a short while. But than I figured using the SLAAC address was easier in case of a prefix change...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tommi Koivula@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Mon Dec 5 09:00:08 2016
    Hi Michiel.

    04 Dec 16 22:12, you wrote to me:

    so you can take your bussines elsewhere?

    My business IS elsewhere. <g>

    How about taking your hobby elsewhere? <g>

    Not possible at this geographical location. Well, for a lot of money it could be possible.

    'Tommi

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Dec 5 11:51:32 2016
    Hello Tommi,

    On Monday December 05 2016 09:02, you wrote to me:

    How about taking your hobby elsewhere? <g>

    Not possible at this geographical location. Well, for a lot of money
    it could be possible.

    So the dsl provider has a monopoly. I think a potential competetitor could succesfully claim access to the copper waiving EU rules.

    But that isn't going to help you get IPv6 on your dsl isn't it?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tommi Koivula@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Mon Dec 5 13:15:58 2016
    05 Dec 16 11:52, you wrote to me:

    How about taking your hobby elsewhere? <g>

    Not possible at this geographical location. Well, for a lot of money
    it could be possible.

    So the dsl provider has a monopoly. I think a potential competetitor could succesfully claim access to the copper waiving EU rules.

    But that isn't going to help you get IPv6 on your dsl isn't it?

    They have no monopoly, they have to lease the wire if I like order ADSL from another isp, but it will cost much more. Makes no sense.

    I have 5 public IPv4 addresses in the 10/1M ADSL, he.net tunnel speed is exactly the same than ADSL speed.

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    'Tommi

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Dec 5 13:59:42 2016
    Hello Tommi,

    On Monday December 05 2016 13:17, you wrote to me:

    I have 5 public IPv4 addresses in the 10/1M ADSL,

    At no extra cost? Do you actually use more than 1?

    he.net tunnel speed is exactly the same than ADSL speed.

    I only got about 50% of the IPv4 speed with my tunnels. Never could figure out why. Now with native IPv6 I have the full speed on IPv6.

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 08:15:00 2016
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula <=-

    I only got about 50% of the IPv4 speed with my tunnels. Never could figure out why. Now with native IPv6 I have the full speed on IPv6.

    I used to get reasonable speed with tunnels, but horrible latency (PoP being on the other side of the planet). There were local tunnel POPs, but they tended to come and go over the years.

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)

    I couldn't wait to go native. There were too many issues with tunnels here with latency and/or reliability. I used he.net on a VPS that I had in the US and it was both fast and rock solid there, as the latency in that case was only milliseconds, not 200+.


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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tony Langdon on Tue Dec 6 01:08:48 2016
    Hello Tony,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 08:25, you wrote to me:

    I only got about 50% of the IPv4 speed with my tunnels. Never
    could figure out why. Now with native IPv6 I have the full speed
    on IPv6.

    I used to get reasonable speed with tunnels,

    But your IPv4 speed is a "reasonable" 3/1 Mbps isn't it? My IPv4 speed it 40/4. That is the minmum the cable company has to offer. The high end is 300/30.

    but horrible latency (PoP being on the other side of the planet).
    There were local tunnel POPs, but they tended to come and go over the years.

    We in Western Europe apparently are in a favorite position. I had a choice of a couple of POPs within a 50km radius...

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)

    I couldn't wait to go native.

    My account with SixXs is eight years old. So I have been waiting eight years for native IPv6. The tunnels were stable and realiable but natibe is noticeably better. Yes I can imagine why you couldn't not wait given the less reliable tunnel services in yourpart of the world.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tommi Koivula@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 11:00:34 2016
    05 Dec 16 14:00, you wrote to me:

    I have 5 public IPv4 addresses in the 10/1M ADSL,

    At no extra cost?

    Yes.

    Do you actually use more than 1?

    Of course. :D

    I have a dedicated router for my main he.net tunnel, also a dedicated router for my os/2 bbs.

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)

    :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@1:2320/100 to Björn Felten on Tue Dec 6 12:34:00 2016
    Good ${greeting_time}, Bjorn!

    03 Dec 2016 08:59:06, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    :f1d0:2:221:6 (2:221/6)
    I must say that I just love the above. Beautiful!

    FTS-5004 (http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5004.001) uses this in all IPv6 examples. And yes, that's the common practice :-)


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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Dec 6 11:40:06 2016
    Hello Tommi,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 11:02, you wrote to me:

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)

    ... he.net certified sage

    You went through the effort of getting the T-shirt. So you ARE dedicated to the cause. ;-)

    Perhaps I should add some indicator to the list of IPv6 nodes to indicate who's got the T-shirt?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 22:08:00 2016
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I only got about 50% of the IPv4 speed with my tunnels. Never
    could figure out why. Now with native IPv6 I have the full speed
    on IPv6.

    I used to get reasonable speed with tunnels,

    But your IPv4 speed is a "reasonable" 3/1 Mbps isn't it? My IPv4 speed
    it 40/4. That is the minmum the cable company has to offer. The high
    end is 300/30.

    Different timeframe. I was running cable with initially 10M down, and later, 30M down (IIRC), at a time when DSL here was limited to 1.5M/256k by the telcos. Hopefully I'll be able to get 100/40M Internet in the near future when the net infrasture is completed here. My area is currently under construction.
    Then it's just a phone call or web request to the ISP to get my account switched over to the new infrastructure.

    but horrible latency (PoP being on the other side of the planet).
    There were local tunnel POPs, but they tended to come and go over the years.

    We in Western Europe apparently are in a favorite position. I had a choice of a couple of POPs within a 50km radius...

    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)

    I couldn't wait to go native.

    My account with SixXs is eight years old. So I have been waiting eight years for native IPv6. The tunnels were stable and realiable but natibe is noticeably better. Yes I can imagine why you couldn't not wait
    given the less reliable tunnel services in yourpart of the world.

    I've had native for over 5 years now. :) FOr the first couple, I had reasonable speeds too, up to 20/1M (DSL was excellent at our previous house).


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  • From Tommi Koivula@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 13:41:56 2016
    I have no obsession about getting native IPv6. :D

    You don't have to be obsessed to stand for the cause. :)

    ... he.net certified sage

    You went through the effort of getting the T-shirt. So you ARE dedicated
    to
    the cause. ;-)

    I just wanted to open the port 25. The t-shirt was an extra bonus. :)

    Perhaps I should add some indicator to the list of IPv6 nodes to indicate who's got the T-shirt?

    :D

    'Tommi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 14:56:16 2016
    Hi Kees!

    06 Dec 2016 14:08, from Kees van Eeten -> Alexey Vissarionov:

    I will add fido6.ddutch.nl as 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006

    Good idea.
    I will add something like that when I move to vserv.ricsi.priv.at

    Thanx for the idea.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 13:56:30 2016
    Hello Michiel!

    06 Dec 16 11:41, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

    ... he.net certified sage

    MvdV> You went through the effort of getting the T-shirt. So you ARE dedicated
    MvdV> to the cause. ;-)

    MvdV> Perhaps I should add some indicator to the list of IPv6 nodes to
    MvdV> indicate who's got the T-shirt?

    Why not add your complete CV to it.

    Kees

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Alexey Vissarionov on Tue Dec 6 14:07:18 2016
    Hello Alexey!

    06 Dec 16 12:37, you wrote to Bj-rn Felten:

    :f1d0:2:221:6 (2:221/6)
    I must say that I just love the above. Beautiful!

    FTS-5004 (http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5004.001) uses this in all IPv6 examples. And yes, that's the common practice :-)

    Not so common as we would like, just 6.5 out of 100

    rbb.ath.cx has IPv6 address 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:360
    cow.mine.nu has IPv6 address 2001:470:1f15:cb0:f1d0:2:221:6
    fido.ddutch.nl has IPv6 address 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5003
    fido.vlzn.nl has IPv6 address 2001:981:8a54:1:f1d0:2:280:464
    fido.gremlin.ru has IPv6 address 2a01:4f8:131:32aa:f1d0:2:5020:545
    phoenix.bnbbbs.net has IPv6 address 2601:193:c400:6881:f1d0:1:320:219

    edv.ragtime.ru has IPv6 address 2001:470:26:6c0::f257:f1d0

    I will add fido6.ddutch.nl as 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006

    Kees

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  • From Wilfred Van Velzen@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 14:37:58 2016
    Hi Kees,

    On 2016-12-06 14:08:18, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Not so common as we would like, just 6.5 out of 100

    Michiels list has only 50 entries. Does that mean there are another 50 where their host name resolves to an IPv6 address?

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Wilfred Van Velzen on Tue Dec 6 14:46:20 2016
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 14:38, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    Not so common as we would like, just 6.5 out of 100

    Michiels list has only 50 entries. Does that mean there are another 50 where their host name resolves to an IPv6 address?

    1) Kees makes a list of nodes that flag an AAAA record. Not all of them have a mailer that answers on IPv6. So they do not make it into my list.

    2) I list only one AKA per node. Some IPv6 capable nodes have more then one AKA. So some more of those in Kees' list. do not make it into mine.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Markus Reschke@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Tue Dec 6 15:18:28 2016
    Hi Richard!

    Dec 06 14:57 2016, Richard Menedetter wrote to Kees Van Eeten:

    I will add fido6.ddutch.nl as 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006

    Good idea.
    I will add something like that when I move to vserv.ricsi.priv.at

    A hint for nodes running linux and dealing with dynamic prefixes & SLAAC:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Dec 6 15:09:20 2016
    Hello Tommi,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 13:43, you wrote to me:

    You went through the effort of getting the T-shirt. So you ARE
    dedicated to the cause. ;-)

    I just wanted to open the port 25.

    Because you wanted to run an IPv6 capable mail server. That shows dedication to the cause.

    The t-shirt was an extra bonus. :)

    Good for you! ;-)


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Tue Dec 6 15:57:22 2016
    Hello Markus!

    06 Dec 16 15:19, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    Good idea.
    I will add something like that when I move to vserv.ricsi.priv.at

    A hint for nodes running linux and dealing with dynamic prefixes & SLAAC:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Can't you use ::f1d0:2:240:1661 or do you prefer to add the point
    address?

    Kees

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Tue Dec 6 09:05:10 2016
    Hello Markus,

    On 06 Dec 16 15:19, Markus Reschke wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    A hint for nodes running linux and dealing with dynamic prefixes &
    SLAAC:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    $ ip token set ::f1d0:1:154:10 dev eth0
    RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

    ..and yes, my device is indeed eth0. If I can get this to work it would make things much easier to maintain, that's for sure.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Tue Dec 6 16:12:36 2016
    Hello Markus!

    06 Dec 16 15:19, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    A hint for nodes running linux and dealing with dynamic prefixes & SLAAC:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Nice, works like a charm. Only the global scope is affected, the link local
    remains to be related to the mac address.

    Kees

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  • From Markus Reschke@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 16:25:36 2016
    Hi Kees!

    Dec 06 15:58 2016, Kees van Eeten wrote to Markus Reschke:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Can't you use ::f1d0:2:240:1661 or do you prefer to add the point address?

    That was just an example ;)

    Regards,
    Markus

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  • From Markus Reschke@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Tue Dec 6 16:26:46 2016
    Hello Nicholas!

    Dec 06 08:59 2016, Nicholas Boel wrote to Markus Reschke:

    $ ip token set ::f1d0:1:154:10 dev eth0
    RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

    You need a more recent kernel.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 09:38:44 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On 06 Dec 16 16:13, Kees van Eeten wrote to Markus Reschke:

    A hint for nodes running linux and dealing with dynamic prefixes
    & SLAAC:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Nice, works like a charm. Only the global scope is affected, the link local remains to be related to the mac address.

    Does it stay in effect when you reboot? Or will it have to be added to an init script or startup file of sorts?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Markus Reschke@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Tue Dec 6 16:42:26 2016
    Hello Nicholas!

    Dec 06 09:32 2016, Nicholas Boel wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    Does it stay in effect when you reboot? Or will it have to be added
    to an init script or startup file of sorts?

    No, you need to add it to some init script or your network configuration, like /etc/network/interfaces (Debian based distros).

    Regards,
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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Tue Dec 6 16:31:34 2016
    Hello Nicholas!

    06 Dec 16 08:59, you wrote to Markus Reschke:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    $ ip token set ::f1d0:1:154:10 dev eth0
    RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

    I copied your command string and no error was reported.

    Now I see your problen you were not logged in as root as the $ shows
    at the start of your example.

    ..and yes, my device is indeed eth0. If I can get this to work it
    would
    make things much easier to maintain, that's for sure.

    I have put the following in my /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted.

    ---->8--------
    iface eth0 inet dhcp
    pre-up ip token set ::f1d0:2:280:5006 dev $IFACE
    ---->8----------

    That will only work for Debian type configuration files.

    Kees

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Tue Dec 6 09:43:24 2016
    Hello Markus,

    On 06 Dec 16 16:27, Markus Reschke wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    $ ip token set ::f1d0:1:154:10 dev eth0
    RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

    You need a more recent kernel.

    Thanks for the heads up. It looks like my ArchlinuxARM distribution is still using the LTS 4.4 kernel. So that would explain it. I'll definitely keep this on my TODO as soon as I'm able to do so.

    Is this a permanent command, or do you have to add it somewhere so it re-runs every time you reboot?

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Tue Dec 6 16:53:42 2016
    Hello Nicholas!

    06 Dec 16 09:32, you wrote to me:

    Nice, works like a charm. Only the global scope is affected, the link
    local remains to be related to the mac address.

    Does it stay in effect when you reboot? Or will it have to be added to an init script or startup file of sorts?

    From 'man ip-token'

    ip token set - set an interface token
    set the interface token to the kernel. Once a token is set, it cannot
    be removed from the interface, only overwritten.

    From this I gather, that the value is set in the active kernel, not in
    the image file. So you will have to set the value with your init scripts.

    In my privious message I showed how it can be done on a debian like system.

    Kees

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 16:42:36 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 14:08, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    I will add fido6.ddutch.nl as 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006

    + 16:40 [588] call to 2:280/5006@fidonet
    16:40 [588] trying fido6.ddutch.nl [2001:980:42ea:1:ba27:ebff:fe58:d5bb]...
    ? 16:40 [588] connection to 2:280/5006@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
    10065} A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable host


    Not updated the DNS yet?


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 10:31:42 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On 06 Dec 16 16:32, Kees van Eeten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    $ ip token set ::f1d0:1:154:10 dev eth0
    RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument

    I copied your command string and no error was reported.

    Now I see your problen you were not logged in as root as the $ shows
    at the start of your example.

    I was indeed root. I just typed that out manually since copy/paste wasn't working at the time. I should have used "#" instead. Many apologies. :)

    ..and yes, my device is indeed eth0. If I can get this to work it
    would
    make things much easier to maintain, that's for sure.

    I have put the following in my /etc/network/interfaces and rebooted.

    ---->8--------
    iface eth0 inet dhcp
    pre-up ip token set ::f1d0:2:280:5006 dev $IFACE
    ---->8----------

    That will only work for Debian type configuration files.

    I would just have to create a new file in /etc/netctl/interfaces with something similar. I just wanted to make sure this was needed as I had read elsewhere that changes don't stick after a reboot. Thanks!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 10:35:24 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On 06 Dec 16 16:54, Kees van Eeten wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    From 'man ip-token'

    From this I gather, that the value is set in the active kernel, not
    in the image file. So you will have to set the value with your init scripts.

    Yep, that among other places I gathered the same information. Just figured I'd ask to verify.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 17:17:20 2016
    Hello Michiel!

    06 Dec 16 16:43, you wrote to me:

    I will add fido6.ddutch.nl as 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006

    MvdV> + 16:40 [588] call to 2:280/5006@fidonet
    MvdV> 16:40 [588] trying fido6.ddutch.nl
    MvdV> [2001:980:42ea:1:ba27:ebff:fe58:d5bb]... ? 16:40 [588] connection to
    MvdV> 2:280/5006@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
    MvdV> 10065} A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable
    MvdV> host

    Well all three DNS servers give the proper answer, so you will have to wait
    till the caches between your binkd and de nameservers expire.

    I will enable the old address for a few more days.

    Kees

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Tue Dec 6 17:40:00 2016
    Hello Markus!

    06 Dec 16 16:26, you wrote to me:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Can't you use ::f1d0:2:240:1661 or do you prefer to add the point
    address?

    That was just an example ;)

    O.K. thanks anyway. I was not aware of the token option. As I move my Pi's
    from DMZ to LAN and back it is quite usefull. I had been looking intoo
    putting the leet text in the mac address, but the ff:fe interferes, so can
    only use the last 2 quadruples.

    Kees

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 17:44:18 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 17:18, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> + 16:40 [588] call to 2:280/5006@fidonet
    MvdV>> 16:40 [588] trying fido6.ddutch.nl
    MvdV>> [2001:980:42ea:1:ba27:ebff:fe58:d5bb]... ? 16:40 [588]
    MvdV>> connection to
    MvdV>> 2:280/5006@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
    MvdV>> 10065} A socket operation was attempted to an
    MvdV>> unreachable host

    Well all three DNS servers give the proper answer, so you will have
    to wait till the caches between your binkd and de nameservers expire.

    No big deal. I have entered the new IPv6 address in my binkd's config. I can reach you...
    I will enable the old address for a few more days.

    That won't do much good unless you find a way to have 5006 answer to both the old and the new address.

    Don't bother, it is no big deal. The problem will solve itself. Just wanted to know what was going on


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 18:18:16 2016
    Hello Michiel!

    06 Dec 16 17:45, you wrote to me:

    Well all three DNS servers give the proper answer, so you will have
    to wait till the caches between your binkd and de nameservers expire.

    MvdV> No big deal. I have entered the new IPv6 address in my binkd's config. I
    MvdV> can reach you...

    I will enable the old address for a few more days.

    MvdV> That won't do much good unless you find a way to have 5006 answer to
    MvdV> both the old and the new address.

    There is no no magic in adding multiple addresses to an interface in a Linux
    system. An early use, was for virtual websites, so every site had it's
    own IP address.

    MvdV> Don't bother, it is no big deal. The problem will solve itself. Just
    MvdV> wanted to know what was going on

    Well, I have done it anyway.

    Kees

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Tue Dec 6 19:34:42 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 18:19, you wrote to me:

    There is no no magic in adding multiple addresses to an interface in
    a Linux system. An early use, was for virtual websites, so every site
    had it's own IP address.

    It is possible in Windows too, but in my experience only if all the adresses are static.

    MvdV>> Don't bother, it is no big deal. The problem will solve itself.
    MvdV>> Just wanted to know what was going on

    Well, I have done it anyway.

    The problem has already solved itself:

    D:\FIDO\BINKD>ping fido6.ddutch.nl

    Ping fido6.ddutch.nl [2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006] mit 32 Bytes Daten:

    Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=29ms
    Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=26ms
    Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=27ms
    Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=26ms

    Ping-Statistik fUr 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006:
    Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 4, Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust),
    Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 29ms, Mittelwert = 27ms



    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Kees Van Eeten@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Tue Dec 6 21:25:44 2016
    Hello Michiel!

    06 Dec 16 19:35, you wrote to me:

    There is no no magic in adding multiple addresses to an interface in
    a Linux system. An early use, was for virtual websites, so every site
    had it's own IP address.

    MvdV> It is possible in Windows too, but in my experience only if all the
    MvdV> adresses are static.

    Yes ofcourse, dhcp can only provide you with one address, if you want to
    add additional ones, they have to be static.

    MvdV> The problem has already solved itself:

    MvdV> D:\FIDO\BINKD>ping fido6.ddutch.nl

    MvdV> Ping fido6.ddutch.nl [2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006] mit 32 Bytes
    MvdV> Daten:

    MvdV> Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=29ms
    MvdV> Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=26ms
    MvdV> Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=27ms
    MvdV> Antwort von 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006: Zeit=26ms

    MvdV> Ping-Statistik fnr 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006:
    MvdV> Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 4, Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust),
    MvdV> Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    MvdV> Minimum = 26ms, Maximum = 29ms, Mittelwert = 27ms

    Nice, the latency is not too bad.

    Kees

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Wed Dec 7 08:16:00 2016
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tommi Koivula <=-

    Perhaps I should add some indicator to the list of IPv6 nodes to
    indicate who's got the T-shirt?

    I'd have to change DNS providers to do that. :(


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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Kees Van Eeten on Wed Dec 7 10:26:44 2016
    Hello Kees,

    On Tuesday December 06 2016 21:26, you wrote to me:

    There is no no magic in adding multiple addresses to an
    interface in a Linux system. An early use, was for virtual
    websites, so every site had it's own IP address.

    MvdV>> It is possible in Windows too, but in my experience only if all
    MvdV>> the adresses are static.

    Yes ofcourse, dhcp can only provide you with one address, if you want
    to add additional ones, they have to be static.

    What I meant is that in Windows one can not have it both. Configuring a static address disables SLAAC and DHCP. One can then configure additional static addresses, but on can not add a static address to the SLAAC address.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Tony Langdon on Wed Dec 7 10:30:38 2016
    Hello Tony,

    On Wednesday December 07 2016 08:26, you wrote to me:

    Perhaps I should add some indicator to the list of IPv6 nodes to
    indicate who's got the T-shirt?

    I'd have to change DNS providers to do that. :(

    I don't think so. To participate in the certification project, you need an account with he.net (that's free) and you need an IPv6 connection. But for the IPv6 connection, you do not need to be connected through them.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Dec 7 12:13:12 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On Wednesday December 07 2016 10:47, you wrote to Markus Reschke:

    Added a static entry, now I only need to move the Fido system there
    ... $ ping6 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31 PING 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31(2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31) 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=40.2 ms

    Michiel no reason to try just yet, BinkD is not yet configured or
    started there ...

    It pings....

    D:\FIDO\BINKD>PING 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31

    Ping wird ausgefUhrt fUr 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31 mit 32 Bytes Daten:

    Antwort von 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31: Zeit=20ms
    Antwort von 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31: Zeit=20ms
    Antwort von 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31: Zeit=20ms
    Antwort von 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31: Zeit=21ms

    Ping-Statistik fUr 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31:
    Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 4, Verloren = 0 (0% Verlust),
    Ca. Zeitangaben in Millisek.:
    Minimum = 20ms, Maximum = 21ms, Mittelwert = 20ms


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Dec 7 13:28:06 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On Wednesday December 07 2016 11:16, you wrote to me:

    And you need (for the later tests) IPv6 reachable nameservers with
    correct glue record.

    I assumed Tony was referring to that.

    AH, yes of course.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Richard Menedetter@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Wed Dec 7 10:08:00 2016
    Hi Markus!

    06 Dec 2016 15:19, from Markus Reschke -> Richard Menedetter:

    I will add fido6.ddutch.nl as 2001:980:42ea:1:f1d0:2:280:5006
    Good idea.
    I will add something like that when I move to vserv.ricsi.priv.at
    A hint for nodes running linux and dealing with dynamic prefixes &
    SLAAC:
    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Learned something again.
    But I was thinking to add a static :2:310:31 to my static ::1

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@1:2320/100 to Markus Reschke on Wed Dec 7 10:46:00 2016
    Hi Markus!

    06 Dec 2016 15:19, from Markus Reschke -> Richard Menedetter:

    ip token set ::2:240:1661:0 dev eth0

    Added a static entry, now I only need to move the Fido system there ...
    $ ping6 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31
    PING 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31(2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31) 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 2a03:4000:13:1fd:f1d0:2:310:31: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=40.2 ms

    Michiel no reason to try just yet, BinkD is not yet configured or started there
    ...

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Richard Menedetter@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Wed Dec 7 11:15:00 2016
    Hi Michiel!

    07 Dec 2016 10:31, from Michiel van der Vlist -> Tony Langdon:

    Perhaps I should add some indicator to the list of IPv6 nodes
    to indicate who's got the T-shirt?
    I'd have to change DNS providers to do that. :(
    I don't think so. To participate in the certification project, you
    need an account with he.net (that's free) and you need an IPv6
    connection. But for the IPv6 connection, you do not need to be
    connected through them.

    And you need (for the later tests) IPv6 reachable nameservers with correct glue
    record.

    I assumed Tony was referring to that.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Dec 7 08:21:06 2016
    Hello Richard,

    On 07 Dec 16 11:16, Richard Menedetter wrote to Michiel Van Der Vlist:

    And you need (for the later tests) IPv6 reachable nameservers with
    correct glue record.

    I assumed Tony was referring to that.

    You don't need anything permanent, though. To pass the he.net test all you need is a quick temporary fix - which he.net actually provides (kind of funny, actually). For the final test I just switched my nameservers to the ones he.net provides, ran the test, and switched everything back after it all passed. :)

    As a matter of fact, as long as you somewhat know what you're doing in regards to IPv6, the entire test could probably be spoofed to a point. If you didn't have IPv6 at your location, you could just VNC or SSH to another location that does, and run everything from there. I'm not saying it's the RIGHT thing to do, but it can probably be done.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Thu Dec 8 07:21:00 2016
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I don't think so. To participate in the certification project, you need an account with he.net (that's free) and you need an IPv6 connection.
    But for the IPv6 connection, you do not need to be connected through them.

    I know, it's just the sage level of the test I can't get through. :(


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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Thu Dec 8 07:35:00 2016
    Richard Menedetter wrote to Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-

    And you need (for the later tests) IPv6 reachable nameservers with
    correct glue record.

    Yeah, it's just the last one. My DNS provider has IPv6 records, but I am not using my domain in my NS records

    I assumed Tony was referring to that.

    Yep, you got it. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Thu Dec 8 07:39:00 2016
    N++-=> Nicholas Boel wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

    As a matter of fact, as long as you somewhat know what you're doing in regards to IPv6, the entire test could probably be spoofed to a point.
    If you didn't have IPv6 at your location, you could just VNC or SSH to another location that does, and run everything from there. I'm not
    saying it's the RIGHT thing to do, but it can probably be done.

    I had to setup a special mail server at the time, because I started my tests before Gmail (where my email is) had full IPv6 working, same for my web provider - both issues since resolved). I could switch my test subdomain to he.net, maybe that would work, do a proper delegation. :)
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  • From Richard Menedetter@1:2320/100 to Tony Langdon on Thu Dec 8 10:55:22 2016
    Hi Tony!

    08 Dec 2016 07:31, from Tony Langdon -> Michiel van der Vlist:

    I know, it's just the sage level of the test I can't get through. :(

    What is the problem?
    Just slap postfix and apache2 (or nginx) onto any computer (even a RasPi).

    For the DNS test you can also temporarily change to he.net.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Tony Langdon on Thu Dec 8 09:47:14 2016
    Hello Tony,

    On 08 Dec 16 07:31, Tony Langdon wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    I don't think so. To participate in the certification project,
    you need an account with he.net (that's free) and you need an
    IPv6 connection. But for the IPv6 connection, you do not need to
    be connected through them.

    I know, it's just the sage level of the test I can't get through. :(

    Change your DNS provider to use he.net's nameservers temporarily. Then run the sage test again. Once you pass, you can either keep them or go back to your original nameservers. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:2320/100 to Richard Menedetter on Fri Dec 9 07:01:00 2016
    Richard Menedetter wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    What is the problem?
    Just slap postfix and apache2 (or nginx) onto any computer (even a
    RasPi).

    Did that for most of the tests, I had an IPv6 only VPS, which did the mail and web tests.

    For the DNS test you can also temporarily change to he.net.

    Have to see if I can manage that without too many issues, I have a lot of RRs in my main domain, which can break things if not properly carried across. The ideal method is to export to zone files and import.


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  • From Andrew Leary@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Thu Dec 8 18:09:12 2016
    Hello Michiel!

    06 Dec 16 17:45, you wrote to Kees van Eeten:

    That won't do much good unless you find a way to have 5006 answer to
    both the old and the new address.

    You can assign more than one address to the same interface. mbcico answers both the SLAAC address and my custom address here.

    Andrew

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  • From Michiel Van Der Vlist@1:2320/100 to Andrew Leary on Fri Dec 9 01:13:30 2016
    Hello Andrew,

    On Thursday December 08 2016 18:04, you wrote to me:

    That won't do much good unless you find a way to have 5006 answer
    to both the old and the new address.

    You can assign more than one address to the same interface. mbcico answers both the SLAAC address and my custom address here.

    Yes, one can assign more than one address to an interface. But as I wrote in another massage, apparently Linux is a bit more flexible than Windows. When I wrote the above I was not aware that in Linux one can have both the SLAAC address and a fixed address.

    My binkd answers to more than one address too. It answers on the SLAAC address and on the PE addresses. But the latter won't do much good.

    In Windows there is no simple way to combine a fancy self choosen host part with a dynamic prefix. Not that I know of...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Janne Johansson@1:2320/100 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Fri Dec 9 09:44:18 2016
    On 2016-12-09 01:14, Michiel van der Vlist : Andrew Leary wrote:

    You can assign more than one address to the same interface. mbcico answers both the SLAAC address and my custom address here.

    Yes, one can assign more than one address to an interface. But as I
    wrote in another massage, apparently Linux is a bit more flexible than Windows. When I wrote the above I was not aware that in Linux one can
    have both the SLAAC address and a fixed address.

    Well, for many OSes, the addition of V6 meant that if not before, now
    you would be forced to handle multiple addresses on the same interface,
    since v4+v6 would always mean two, and if you have any kind of
    configured v6 (slaac or dhcpv6 or manual) you get at least three since
    v6 will always make one of those fe80::, so by that time you would
    probably code it to handle 1,2,3..10 addresses on the same interface the
    same way.

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