Hi All!

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello Stas,

On Friday August 10 2018 16:59, you wrote to All:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

Congratulations!


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/08/2018 16.59 you wrote:

Hi All!
https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

:D

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On 08-10-18 16:59, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to All <=-

Hi All!

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

Nice, well mine's due in the next batch. :)


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Hi, Michiel!

10 aou 18 16:46, Michiel van der Vlist -> Stas Mishchenkov:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

MvdV> Congratulations!

Thanks.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Tony!

11 aou 18 08:17, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

Nice, well mine's due in the next batch. :)

I waited a few months.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas!

Aug 10 16:59 2018, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to All:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

All the effort for a simple white T-shirt? >:)

ciao,
Markus

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Hi Markus!

Saturday August 11 2018 13:37, you wrote to me:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

All the effort for a simple white T-shirt? >:)

Why not? It's good, It's free and IPv6 sertified... ;)

Have a nice night.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas!

Aug 11 17:15 2018, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Markus Reschke:

All the effort for a simple white T-shirt? >:)

Why not? It's good, It's free and IPv6 sertified... ;)

I think the incentive would have to be a little bit higher for me. Too much T-shirts, I'd guess. But you're right! We don't complain about free T-shirts :)

ciao,
Markus

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Why not? It's good, It's free and IPv6 sertified... ;)

Bah! That certification is nothing compared to a Fidonet ditto (getting listed here)!



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Hello Markus,

On Saturday August 11 2018 17:17, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

All the effort for a simple white T-shirt? >:)

Why not? It's good, It's free and IPv6 sertified... ;)

I think the incentive would have to be a little bit higher for me. Too much T-shirts, I'd guess. But you're right! We don't complain about
free T-shirts :)

For me the T-Shirt was just an extra. The satisfaction of completing the course
and reaching the rank of "Sage" was enough of an incentive in itself. But I did
not decline the T-shirt, especially since they managed to have it delivered on my birthday. ;-)

http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-f.jpg
http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-b.jpg


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel!

Aug 11 17:27 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

MvdV> For me the T-Shirt was just an extra. The satisfaction of
MvdV> completing the course and reaching the rank of "Sage" was enough of
MvdV> an incentive in itself. But I did not decline the T-shirt,
MvdV> especially since they managed to have it delivered on my birthday.
MvdV> ;-)

You might have got that wrong. It was mine ;)

ciao,
Markus

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Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

11 Aug 2018 17:27:36, you wrote to Markus Reschke:

All the effort for a simple white T-shirt? >:)

Why not? It's good, It's free and IPv6 sertified... ;)

I think the incentive would have to be a little bit higher for me.
Too much T-shirts, I'd guess. But you're right! We don't complain
about free T-shirts :)

MvdV> For me the T-Shirt was just an extra. The satisfaction of
MvdV> completing the course and reaching the rank of "Sage" was enough
MvdV> of an incentive in itself. But I did not decline the T-shirt,
MvdV> especially since they managed to have it delivered on my birthday.

I'm much more satisfied by seeing both ISPs - one I had created (at least upgraded to a LIR) and another where I had deployed IPv6 - in this list: https://ipv6ripeness.ripe.net/4star/RU.html

Well, I also have a T-shirt with "IPv6 act now!" on it, but that's nothing compared to ISPs... :-)


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Hello, Markus Reschke.
On 11/08/2018 13.37 you wrote:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

All the effort for a simple white T-shirt? >:)

Will i ever get one on linode.com ??

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On 08-11-18 11:45, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Hi, Tony!

11 aou 18 08:17, Tony Langdon -> Stas Mishchenkov:

https://yadi.sk/i/_kNWcHTW3a7LjT

Nice, well mine's due in the next batch. :)

I waited a few months.

No probs, i'm not in any particular hurry. :) I have my sage certofocation. :)


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Hello Bjorn,

On Saturday August 11 2018 17:33, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

Why not? It's good, It's free and IPv6 sertified... ;)

Bah! That certification is nothing compared to a Fidonet ditto
(getting listed here)!

Sure. But there is a correlation. TTBOMK all the Fidonet sysops with the T-Shirt are also listed as members of the Fidonet IPv6 club.

So... if the he.net T-shirt is a stepping stone to the Fidonet IPv6 club, that's fine with me...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Markus,

On Saturday August 11 2018 18:00, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> But I did not decline the T-shirt, especially since they managed to
MvdV>> have it delivered on my birthday. ;-)

You might have got that wrong. It was mine ;)

My sister in law is a lawyer. She says posession is 90% of ownership. We may be
born on the same day, but as you can see in the picture, I am the one wearing the T-shirt and it fits. So there you go... ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Alexey,

On Saturday August 11 2018 19:01, you wrote to me:

I'm much more satisfied by seeing both ISPs - one I had created (at
least upgraded to a LIR) and another where I had deployed IPv6 - in
this list: https://ipv6ripeness.ripe.net/4star/RU.html

And justifiably so.

Well, I also have a T-shirt with "IPv6 act now!" on it, but that's
nothing compared to ISPs... :-)

You showed a picture of that and it made me jealous... ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi! Michiel,

On 11 Aug 18 17:27, you wrote to Markus Reschke:

http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-f.jpg
http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-b.jpg

The bloke in the 'b' shot is better looking. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

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On 08-11-18 17:27, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke <=-

For me the T-Shirt was just an extra. The satisfaction of completing
the course and reaching the rank of "Sage" was enough of an incentive
in itself. But I did not decline the T-shirt, especially since they managed to have it delivered on my birthday. ;-)

Same here, the Sage rank was the goal, and the shirt is just a nice bonus. :)


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On 08-12-18 10:54, Paul Quinn wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

Hi! Michiel,

On 11 Aug 18 17:27, you wrote to Markus Reschke:

http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-f.jpg
http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-b.jpg

The bloke in the 'b' shot is better looking. ;)

ROFLMAO!!! :D


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Hi Michiel!

Aug 12 00:14 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

MvdV>>> But I did not decline the T-shirt, especially since they managed
MvdV>>> to have it delivered on my birthday. ;-)

You might have got that wrong. It was mine ;)

MvdV> My sister in law is a lawyer. She says posession is 90% of
MvdV> ownership. We may be born on the same day, but as you can see in
MvdV> the picture, I am the one wearing the T-shirt and it fits. So there
MvdV> you go... ;-)

I wasn't talking about the T-shirt, I meant the birthday. Got plenty of freebies in my wardrobe already :)

ciao,
Markus

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Hello Markus,

On Sunday August 12 2018 13:28, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> My sister in law is a lawyer. She says posession is 90% of
MvdV>> ownership. We may be born on the same day, but as you can see
MvdV>> in the picture, I am the one wearing the T-shirt and it fits.
MvdV>> So there you go... ;-)

I wasn't talking about the T-shirt, I meant the birthday.

Ah, you meant the birthday. But HE doesn't know when you celebrate your birthday do they?

Got plenty of freebies in my wardrobe already :)

I have a couple of freebies too, the sage T-shirt is the best. :)

You know, I have never been asked what it means when I wear it in public. Never
a single comment, except from Kees and Wilfred , but they had advance knowledge. ;-)


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Paul,

On Sunday August 12 2018 10:54, you wrote to me:

http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-f.jpg
http://www.vlist.eu/fotos/sage-b.jpg

The bloke in the 'b' shot is better looking. ;)

Don't know that guy, never seen him. Maybe it is Markus? ;-)

Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel!

Aug 12 15:55 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke:

MvdV> You know, I have never been asked what it means when I wear it in
MvdV> public. Never a single comment, except from Kees and Wilfred , but
MvdV> they had advance knowledge. ;-)

If you like to get some attention you have to become a social media celebrity first. :) Promoting IPv6 isn't easy.

ciao,
Markus

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Hello Markus,

On Sunday August 12 2018 16:25, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> You know, I have never been asked what it means when I wear it
MvdV>> in public. Never a single comment, except from Kees and Wilfred
MvdV>> , but they had advance knowledge. ;-)

If you like to get some attention you have to become a social media celebrity first. :)

No way Jose! ;-)

Promoting IPv6 isn't easy.

It sure ain't. Not in Fidonet and not out of it. :(


Cheers, Michiel

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On 08-12-18 22:09, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Markus Reschke <=-

Promoting IPv6 isn't easy.

It sure ain't. Not in Fidonet and not out of it. :(

Sadly, the vast majority of people don't understand or care, so nasty stuff like IPv4 CGN proliferates, while IPv6 hardly reaches the consumers. :(


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Hello Tony,

On Monday August 13 2018 08:45, you wrote to me:

Promoting IPv6 isn't easy.

It sure ain't. Not in Fidonet and not out of it. :(

Sadly, the vast majority of people don't understand or care, so nasty stuff like IPv4 CGN proliferates, while IPv6 hardly reaches the
consumers. :(

And the ISPs get away with it because for the vast majority of customers evrything they want just works despite CGNAT. It is just us and other nerds that want a true P2P channel, that have problems. :-(


Cheers, Michiel

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On 08-13-18 22:36, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

And the ISPs get away with it because for the vast majority of
customers evrything they want just works despite CGNAT. It is just us
and other nerds that want a true P2P channel, that have problems. :-(

Exactly. :'(


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Dear Michiel,

13 Aug 18 22:36, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

Sadly, the vast majority of people don't understand or care, so
nasty stuff like IPv4 CGN proliferates, while IPv6 hardly reaches
the consumers. :(

And the ISPs get away with it because for the vast majority of
customers evrything they want just works despite CGNAT. It is just us
and other nerds that want a true P2P channel, that have problems. :-(

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.

Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of course.

Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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Hello Victor,

On Tuesday August 14 2018 21:49, you wrote to me:

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.

More or less the same here in The Netherlands. Five years ago it was different,
but now I only see RFC1918 or RFC 6598 addresses.

Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of
course.

Here the exception seems to be T-Mobile but I have that from hearsay...


Cheers, Michiel

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Good ${greeting_time}, Victor!

14 Aug 18 21:49, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.
Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of
course.

in Soviet Russia, "Mobile Telesystems" begin to provide IPv6 addresses to all subscribers ;) IPv6-only nodes on Android devices is almost next door =)))

With best regards, Alexandr.

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On 08-14-18 21:49, Victor Sudakov wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.

Normally the case in Australia too, though the data SIM in my iPad gets a public IP(v4) address. Needless to say, I'm not letting go of that account in a hurry. :-)


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Hello Alexandr,

On Wednesday August 15 2018 01:18, you wrote to Victor Sudakov:

in Soviet Russia, "Mobile Telesystems" begin to provide IPv6 addresses
to all subscribers ;)

That is good news.

IPv6-only nodes on Android devices is almost next door =)))

Will they have fixed IPv6 addresses? If not, DDNS on android may be a bit of a challenge...


Cheers, Michiel

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On 8/14/2018 5:49 PM, Victor Sudakov : Michiel van der Vlist

And the ISPs get away with it because for the vast majority of
customers evrything they want just works despite CGNAT. It is just us and other nerds that want a true P2P channel, that have problems. :-(

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a
non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.

Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of course.

In Finland we have one mobile operator that offers public ipv4 address
with ipv6 /64. By default the ipv4 is natted, but changing APN gives me
public ipv4.

No extra cost. ;)

'Tommi

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Hello Tommi!

15 Aug 2018 10:28, Tommi Koivula wrote to Victor Sudakov:

In Finland we have one mobile operator that offers public ipv4 address with ipv6 /64. By default the ipv4 is natted, but changing APN gives
me public ipv4.

No extra cost. ;)

nice, when will that mobile operator come outside of finland ? :)


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Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

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15 Aug 18 01:01, you wrote to me:

IPv6-only nodes on Android devices is almost next door =)))

MvdV> Will they have fixed IPv6 addresses? If not, DDNS on android may be
MvdV> a bit of a challenge...

I do not know, and I do not have a chance to try, because I have another mobile
operator =(

With best regards, Alexandr.

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Dear Alexandr,

15 Aug 18 01:18, you wrote to me:

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a
non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.
Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money
of course.

in Soviet Russia, "Mobile Telesystems" begin to provide IPv6 addresses
to all subscribers ;)

You mean MTS? Can you please elaborate on that. I've been MTS's customer since year 2000. How can I obtain an IPv6 address for my phone and tablet from them?

Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
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Good ${greeting_time}, Victor!

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15 Aug 18 19:11, you wrote to me:

AFAIK in Russia all mobile devices are NATed. I've never seen a
non-RFC1918 address on a mobile connection.
Some operators offer the option "real IP", for additional money of
course.

in Soviet Russia, "Mobile Telesystems" begin to provide IPv6
addresses to all subscribers ;)

You mean MTS? Can you please elaborate on that. I've been MTS's
customer since year 2000. How can I obtain an IPv6 address for my
phone and tablet from them?

I copied the correspondence with the engineer of MTS:
"We turn on the owners of Apple phones, from 11.3 they basically have the right
settings for the access point, we also include all new subscribers. Current subscribers can activate the service for free through their private office"

With best regards, Alexandr.

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