Now with fibre where I get better than 100/100M I can clearly see that a tunnel
is much slower than native IPv6.

On http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ I can measure the speed I get, and via my IPv6 tunnel I get less than 20% of the speed I get on IPv4.

So, I'm eagerly awaiting my native IPv6.

It would also be interesting to know if the above test site works for sites from outside of Sweden. To get the IPv6 test choose "Avancerad matning" in the right hand menu and there select one of the IPv6 endpoints.

RFC if you please. 8-)



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Bjorn Felten wrote to All <=-

Now with fibre where I get better than 100/100M I can clearly see that
a tunnel is much slower than native IPv6.

On http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ I can measure the speed I get, and via my IPv6 tunnel I get less than 20% of the speed I get on IPv4.

Ouch! :( I can't reproduce these results here, as I run native IPv6.

So, I'm eagerly awaiting my native IPv6.

I bet! :D

It would also be interesting to know if the above test site works
for sites from outside of Sweden. To get the IPv6 test choose
"Avancerad matning" in the right hand menu and there select one of the IPv6 endpoints.

Can take a look, though from this side of the world, there's a lot of variables in the way. Well, it does work, at least on the default site. but as expected, the results were poor - around 3.5Mbps each way, compared to 78.14/31.25, using a local speedtest.net server.


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13 Apr 18 01:32:50, you wrote to All:

Now with fibre where I get better than 100/100M I can clearly see that a tunnel is much slower than native IPv6.

On http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ I can measure the speed I get, and

via

my IPv6 tunnel I get less than 20% of the speed I get on IPv4.

So, I'm eagerly awaiting my native IPv6.

It would also be interesting to know if the above test site works for sites from outside of Sweden. To get the IPv6 test choose "Avancerad mEtning" in the right hand menu and there select one of the IPv6

endpoints.

It works, and you can choose english at the top right corner. ;)

'Tommi

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Works fine in Romania, although with slow speeds... 23down/16up Mbps out of a 1Gbps/500Mbps connection...

Cheers,
Andrei

Now with fibre where I get better than 100/100M I can clearly see that a tunnel is much slower than native IPv6.

On http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ I can measure the speed I get, and via my IPv6 tunnel I get less than 20% of the speed I get on IPv4.

So, I'm eagerly awaiting my native IPv6.

It would also be interesting to know if the above test site works for sites from outside of Sweden. To get the IPv6 test choose "Avancerad matning" in the right hand menu and there select one of the IPv6 endpoints.

RFC if you please. 8-)

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Works fine in Romania, although with slow speeds... 23down/16up Mbps out
of a 1Gbps/500Mbps connection...

Yes, Internet in Sweden is very slow. I'm getting only 36M in and 14M
out with 50M/50M connection. :D

aaa On http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ I can measure the speed I get,

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Yes, Internet in Sweden is very slow. I'm getting only 36M in and 14M
out with 50M/50M connection. :D

From Finland maybe. I get 115/100 on a 100/100 connection. In the middle of the night I get even better result.

http://felten.se/bbk.png





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Andrei Rachita wrote to Bj%rn Felten <=-

Works fine in Romania, although with slow speeds... 23down/16up Mbps
out of a 1Gbps/500Mbps connection...

I only got 3.5Mbps each way from my 100/40 connection in Australia.


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13 Apr 18 12:17:44, you wrote to me:

Yes, Internet in Sweden is very slow. I'm getting only 36M in and 14M
out with 50M/50M connection. :D

From Finland maybe.

Nope, not from Finland.

I get 115/100 on a 100/100 connection.

You _did_ notice the ":D", didn't you?

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using a local speedtest.net server.

I get 10/1.6 to a server in Darwin (Internode), so obviously one loses a lot
of speed when connecting half way around the globe. 8-)

I tried a server in Perth (NODE1 Internet) and got slightly better result --
22.8/2.25


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From Finland maybe.

Nope, not from Finland.

From where then?

I get 115/100 on a 100/100 connection.

You _did_ notice the ":D", didn't you?

Yeah. I also remembered that I had uTorrent working in the background. With that disabled I get this:

http://felten.se/bbk.png



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Hello Bjorn,

On Friday April 13 2018 01:32, you wrote to All:

Now with fibre where I get better than 100/100M I can clearly see that
a tunnel is much slower than native IPv6.

I already reported some years ago that when I had a 30 MBps IPv4 connection I only got 1/3 to 1/2 of the speed via the SixXs en he.net tunnels.

My ISP says I now have a 40/4 connection.

On http://www.bredbandskollen.se/ I can measure the speed I get,
and via my IPv6 tunnel I get less than 20% of the speed I get on IPv4.

35.91/4.17 Mbps on IPv4

The IPv6 test does not work. There is an "Avancerad matning" windowm but it freezes. I am unable to select a server an continue...


When I use this one: http://ipv6-test.com/speedtest/

I get 29.8 on IPv4 and 29.5 on IPv6 (Netherlands, Zeelandmet)

7.74 IPv4, 26,6 IPv6 (France, Roubaix)

18.9 IPv4m 17.5 IPv6 ( France, Paris)

19.9 IPv4, 20.8 IPv6 (UK, Porthmouth)

So, I'm eagerly awaiting my native IPv6.

I am sure you arem but given the response so far, I fear you will have to switch providers ones again if you want it before St. Nobody. :-(



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MvdV> I am sure you arem but given the response so far, I fear you will have
MvdV> to switch providers ones again if you want it before St. Nobody. :-(

LOL! Well, it turns out that Telia forcefully has connected me via their servers without me having ordered it. So Bahnhof is blocked from giving me their service.

Given that Telia has offered me half the price (SEK199 -- about EUR20 -- per
month) for three months, I think I'll wait three months before I terminate their service and give Bahnhof the baton.

After all, for the time being the he.net tunnel works, albeit with a reduced
speed, and so far it's only FidoNet that suffers from that reduction. It still works much faster than my previous ADSL line...



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Hello Bjorn,

On Friday April 13 2018 15:40, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> I am sure you are, but given the response so far, I fear you
MvdV>> will have to switch providers once again if you want it before
MvdV>> St. Nobody. :-(

LOL! Well, it turns out that Telia forcefully has connected me via their servers without me having ordered it. So Bahnhof is blocked from giving me their service.

I already wondered. When I did a whois on your IPv4 address, I ended up with Telia, not Bahnhof.

So you can choose between different ISPs on the same physical medium?

Given that Telia has offered me half the price (SEK199 -- about
EUR20 -- per month) for three months, I think I'll wait three months before I terminate their service and give Bahnhof the baton.

Here that would not work. Here it is standard procedure to offer new customers a discount for the first three or six month, but then if you accept that discount. you are stuck with them for a year.

After all, for the time being the he.net tunnel works, albeit with
a reduced speed, and so far it's only FidoNet that suffers from that reduction. It still works much faster than my previous ADSL line...

Speed is not an issue for Fidonet. Even the old POTS speeds were enough. It is the 24/7 availability at zero extra cost that is the advantage over good old POTS...


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> So you can choose between different ISPs on the same physical medium?

Yes, it's so called "Open Fibre" so I have around 20 or so ISPs to chose from.



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Bjorn Felten wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

using a local speedtest.net server.

I get 10/1.6 to a server in Darwin (Internode), so obviously one
loses a lot of speed when connecting half way around the globe. 8-)

I tried a server in Perth (NODE1 Internet) and got slightly better result -- 22.8/2.25

Yes, distance makes a difference. :)


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Bjorn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

MvdV> So you can choose between different ISPs on the same physical medium?

Yes, it's so called "Open Fibre" so I have around 20 or so ISPs to chose from.

Sounds a bit like our NBN here - one network, lots of ISPs.


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Hello Bj%rn!

Apr 14 04:54 2018, Bj%rn Felten wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> So you can choose between different ISPs on the same physical
MvdV>> medium?

Yes, it's so called "Open Fibre" so I have around 20 or so ISPs to
chose from.

That's a awesome concept! Over here only a few municipal networks support that too.

ciao,
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Hello Bjorn,

On Saturday April 14 2018 04:54, you wrote to me:

Yes, it's so called "Open Fibre" so I have around 20 or so ISPs to chose from.

And how many of those "around 20" offer native IPv6?


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> And how many of those "around 20" offer native IPv6?

I have absolutely no idea. It's nothing they advertise... :(




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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bjorn Felten <=-

Yes, it's so called "Open Fibre" so I have around 20 or so ISPs to chose from.

And how many of those "around 20" offer native IPv6?

In Australia, I know of at least one of the dozens of available ISPs here offer IPv6. No prizes for guessing which one I use. :)


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