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    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Wed Apr 11 11:12:21 2018
    Hello Bjorn,

    I see you are back.

    + 11:10 [1300] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
    11:10 [1300] trying eljaco.se [2001:470:27:302::2]:24555...
    ? 11:11 [1300] connection to 2:203/0@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
    10060} Connection time d out
    11:11 [1300] trying eljaco.se [90.227.100.38]:24555...
    11:11 [1300] connected
    + 11:11 [1300] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [90.227.100.38]
    - 11:11 [1300] OPT CRAM-MD5-66cba9c7e05fe6a623e5563a94c345ee
    + 11:11 [1300] Remote requests MD mode
    - 11:11 [1300] SYS Felten's Sharp System
    - 11:11 [1300] ZYZ Bjorn Felten
    - 11:11 [1300] LOC Save, Sweden

    But no IPv6 yet. Does that fibre come with native IPv6?


    Cheers, Michiel

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    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 11 12:27:13 2018
    MvdV> But no IPv6 yet. Does that fibre come with native IPv6?

    It should, but obviously I have to ask for it. How's that for ISP going IPv6? Shouldn't it be obvious that I want IPv6 connectivity when I get fibre --
    especially from Bahnhof that's been running the end tunnels for SixXS as well as he.net for a decade now?

    I'll be back...



    ..

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Wed Apr 11 13:54:50 2018
    Hello Bjorn,

    On Wednesday April 11 2018 12:27, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> But no IPv6 yet. Does that fibre come with native IPv6?

    It should, but obviously I have to ask for it. How's that for ISP
    going IPv6?

    No brownie points for them.

    Shouldn't it be obvious that I want IPv6 connectivity when
    I get fibre -- especially from Bahnhof that's been running the end
    tunnels for SixXS as well as he.net for a decade now?

    That the connection did not function right away at first trial is excusable. After all they did get it working within 48 hours didn't they? But...

    IPv6 is way past the experimental stage. It should not be an issue wether you want IPv6 or not. New customers should just get it, period.

    Two malus points for Telia.

    I'll be back...

    Of course. ;-)

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 11 14:22:11 2018
    MvdV> Two malus points for Telia.

    And two more for Bahnhof that I had such high expectations for, given their way of supplying end points for SixXS and he.net.

    Well, I'm still at the phone with them -- "you are now 15 minutes from getting your phone call"

    What ever happened to the good old days when you got someone answering your phone call right away?




    ..

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Wed Apr 11 20:35:40 2018
    Hello Bjorn,

    On Wednesday April 11 2018 14:22, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> Two malus points for Telia.

    And two more for Bahnhof that I had such high expectations for, given their way of supplying end points for SixXS and he.net.

    + 20:34 [3556] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
    20:34 [3556] trying eljaco.se [2001:470:27:302::2]:24555...
    20:34 [3556] connected
    + 20:34 [3556] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [2001:470:27:302::2]
    - 20:34 [3556] OPT CRAM-MD5-39fff201c5f208959fbd52b805f8e3ee
    + 20:34 [3556] Remote requests MD mode
    - 20:34 [3556] SYS Felten's Sharp System
    - 20:34 [3556] ZYZ Bjorn Felten
    - 20:34 [3556] LOC Save, Sweden

    But you are back. Via the tunnel...

    Well, I'm still at the phone with them -- "you are now 15 minutes
    from getting your phone call"

    What ever happened to the good old days when you got someone
    answering your phone call right away?

    Those days are gone. Most likely forever...

    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed Apr 11 21:23:10 2018
    MvdV> But you are back. Via the tunnel...

    Yeah. I guess that'll do for the time being.




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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Thu Apr 12 00:25:59 2018
    Hello Bjorn,

    On Wednesday April 11 2018 21:23, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> But you are back. Via the tunnel...

    Yeah. I guess that'll do for the time being.

    So what's the story? Bahnhof does not offer native IPv6 or what?

    Pray tell...


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu Apr 12 06:37:16 2018
    MvdV> So what's the story? Bahnhof does not offer native IPv6 or what?

    The guy I talked with was very uncertain, but he thought that the matter was
    "in the planning stage".



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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Björn Felten on Thu Apr 12 12:33:52 2018
    Hello Bjorn,

    On Thursday April 12 2018 06:37, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> So what's the story? Bahnhof does not offer native IPv6 or
    MvdV>> what?

    The guy I talked with was very uncertain, but he thought that the matter was "in the planning stage".

    Oh boy... Where did I hear that before... I think it was around 2008 when I asked my TSP about TPV6.

    I kept hearing it for another 8 years. In 2016 I finally got native IPv6.

    So prepare to hear the same until 2026. :-(


    Cheers, Michiel

    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
    * Origin: he.net certified sage (2:280/5555)