• Interesting article

    From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to All on Sat Feb 3 15:51:31 2018
    Hello All,

    https://blog.apnic.net/2018/02/01/killed-ipv6-project/


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sat Feb 3 17:40:08 2018
    Hi Michiel!

    Feb 03 15:51 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

    MvdV> https://blog.apnic.net/2018/02/01/killed-ipv6-project/

    Network migrations are fun :) I've managed several of those over the years. The
    most important part is to create a proper documentation of the current network(s). Then you start designing and planning. And don't forget that IT departments get heart attacks when you mention network renumbering.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Markus Reschke on Sat Feb 3 18:22:00 2018
    Hello Markus,

    On Saturday February 03 2018 17:40, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> https://blog.apnic.net/2018/02/01/killed-ipv6-project/

    Network migrations are fun :) I've managed several of those over the years. The most important part is to create a proper documentation of
    the current network(s). Then you start designing and planning. And
    don't forget that IT departments get heart attacks when you mention network renumbering.

    The latter also happens closer to home...

    Here is another one:

    https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybrkudyh


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Feb 4 23:34:02 2018
    Hello,

    On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 15:51:30 +0100, Michiel Van Der Vlist -> All wrote:

    MvdV> Hello All,

    MvdV> https://blog.apnic.net/2018/02/01/killed-ipv6-project/

    If only all people were that intuitive.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/10 to Markus Reschke on Sun Feb 4 23:39:10 2018
    Hello,

    On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 17:40:08 +0100, Markus Reschke -> Michiel Van Der Vlist wrote:

    Hi Michiel!

    Feb 03 15:51 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to All:

    MvdV>> https://blog.apnic.net/2018/02/01/killed-ipv6-project/

    Network migrations are fun :) I've managed several of those over the years. The most important part is to create a proper documentation of
    the current network(s). Then you start designing and planning. And don't forget that IT departments get heart attacks when you mention network renumbering.
    Honestly, I would love to do that for a living, and oddly enough, with no college I can probably do it better that most that went and spend all the money
    for college (not much free college here in the USA).

    I'd love to do that, or server admin, etc. But instead I build the buildings you use to store all the racks and servers (ironworker). So the next time you drive by a jobsite that guys are running around on steel beams, you can think of me. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Nicholas Boel on Mon Feb 5 13:57:35 2018
    Hello Nicholas,

    On Sunday February 04 2018 23:34, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> https://blog.apnic.net/2018/02/01/killed-ipv6-project/

    If only all people were that intuitive.

    I am not sure if "intuitive" is the word I would use, but yes, I sure would like more people to be that "creative" into enticing their boss to make the company network IPv6 complient.

    I participate in a Dutch forming dedicated to IPv6 and I meet many people who have problems reaching their home network from their work place because at home
    they have DS-Lite and at work there is only IPv4. Now that DS-Lite is coming to
    our homes, this becomes an increasing problem.

    Ever so often sysadmins have problems convincing their bosses that IPv6 is unavoidable and that the longer they wait the more expensive it will become. But the CEOs are more interested in their bonus at the end of the year. They do
    not care about the long term. By the time it really becomes a problem, they have moved on to greener pastures... :-(

    My guess is that this is not a Dutch problem but that it is an issue in many other European countries as well.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Markus Reschke@2:240/1661 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Feb 5 18:39:00 2018
    Hi Michiel!

    Feb 05 13:57 2018, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Nicholas Boel:

    MvdV> My guess is that this is not a Dutch problem but that it is an
    MvdV> issue in many other European countries as well.

    Yep, common issue. Most organizations will postpone IPv6 until the market pressure becomes so huge that they are forced to implement IPv6. And then it has to be done in a very short time frame causing tons of problems.

    ciao,
    Markus

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nicholas Boel on Wed Feb 7 10:43:00 2018
    N++-=> Nicholas Boel wrote to Markus Reschke <=-

    Network migrations are fun :) I've managed several of those over the years. The most important part is to create a proper documentation of
    the current network(s). Then you start designing and planning. And don't forget that IT departments get heart attacks when you mention network renumbering.
    Honestly, I would love to do that for a living, and oddly enough, with
    no college I can probably do it better that most that went and spend
    all the money for college (not much free college here in the USA).

    Done a few in my time, buth corporate and home networks. I wasn't afraid of renumbering, saw it as a lesser evil to crufty solutions full of NATs. My own private IP range is a hamgver from those days when I was a VPN connected to the office. :)

    I'd love to do that, or server admin, etc. But instead I build the buildings you use to store all the racks and servers (ironworker). So
    the next time you drive by a jobsite that guys are running around on
    steel beams, you can think of me. ;)

    Been a network and server admin, was good work, though these days I do more manual work. Something about getting physical and dirty outside works for me. :) That said, I still like my tech, and still work on keeping up with IPv6 and other current and emerging technologies.


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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:261/38.20 to Markus Reschke on Wed Feb 7 13:10:38 2018
    Hello Markus!

    05 Feb 2018 18:39, Markus Reschke wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    Yep, common issue. Most organizations will postpone IPv6 until the
    market pressure becomes so huge that they are forced to implement
    IPv6. And then it has to be done in a very short time frame causing
    tons of problems.

    could be added to http://ipv6bingo.com/ ? :=)


    Regards Benny

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