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    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Richard Menedetter on Tue Jun 9 16:04:00 2020
    Hello Richard!

    ** On Tuesday 09.06.20 - 18:09, Richard Menedetter wrote to August Abolins:

    Why don't you give us YOUR example of what FTS-0009's "^AMSGID:

    Take a look at your own for an example:
    @MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet e53bb3cb

    origadr is a 3d/4d/5d Fidonet address.

    Sweet. That's what I thought. But I think Rob Swindell's approach introduces better uniqueness, which is the whole point of the matter.

    If 3d/4d/5d was the expectation, then the fts doc should have stated
    exactly that.


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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to August Abolins on Wed Jun 10 12:15:26 2020
    Hi August!

    09 Jun 2020 16:04, from August Abolins -> Richard Menedetter:

    Why don't you give us YOUR example of what FTS-0009's "^AMSGID:
    Take a look at your own for an example:
    @MSGID: 2:221/1.58@fidonet e53bb3cb
    origadr is a 3d/4d/5d Fidonet address.
    Sweet. That's what I thought. But I think Rob Swindell's approach introduces better uniqueness, which is the whole point of the matter.

    I understand why he did it.
    But it still is not standards conform.
    In that special case it seems that the standard nonconformance does not cause big issues except for soupgate.
    And that there are some good reasons for the nonconformance ... but it definitely is not standards conform.

    If 3d/4d/5d was the expectation, then the fts doc should have stated exactly that.

    They stated originating addr.
    (Address does not include Name in Fido)
    OK:
    2:2/2
    2:2/2.2
    2:2/2.2@fidonet

    NOK:
    name@2:2/2
    name@2:2/2@fidonet

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Jun 10 20:22:02 2020
    On 10/06/2020 6:15 a.m., Richard Menedetter : August Abolins wrote:

    I understand why he did it. But it still is not standards
    conform. [...] but it definitely is not standards conform.

    If 3d/4d/5d was the expectation, then the fts doc should have
    stated exactly that.

    They stated originating addr. (Address does not include Name in
    Fido) OK: 2:2/2 2:2/2.2 2:2/2.2@fidonet

    NOK: name@2:2/2 name@2:2/2@fidonet

    GREAT. More confusion for the masses. In internet usage, an address is a complete name@whatever.tld. But in fidonet it's just the numbers.

    This whole argument could have been laid to rest by saying that (and perhaps point to a specific definition ftsc doc that states it) at the the outset.


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to August Abolins on Wed Jun 10 22:14:12 2020
    Hello August,

    On Wednesday June 10 2020 20:22, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

    They stated originating addr. (Address does not include Name in
    Fido) OK: 2:2/2 2:2/2.2 2:2/2.2@fidonet

    NOK: name@2:2/2 name@2:2/2@fidonet

    GREAT. More confusion for the masses. In internet usage, an address is
    a complete name@whatever.tld. But in fidonet it's just the numbers.

    This whole argument could have been laid to rest by saying that

    I DID tell you that, but you wouldn't hear it. :(


    Cheers, Michiel

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