• uue via thunderbird? Part1

    From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Paul Quinn on Thu Jul 26 19:48:56 2018
    Hi, Paul Quinn!
    I read your message from 26.07.2018 00:16

    ak>> As I understand it now - a message with a long uue section is
    ak>> splitted while it goes through the gate. Maybe I should split a
    ak>> big uue section into several minor uue sections and numerate them
    ak>> in a certain manner.

    PQ> Yes. Typically in Fidonet such splitting is done on an arbitrary 16
    PQ> kilobyte boundary (effectively done around 15 kbytes, to allow for
    PQ> headers & footers stating the split regions and sequence of those
    PQ> text portions). There is no specific 'standard' citing this
    PQ> limitation but it is believed that software authors of times long
    PQ> past came to this agreement. Technically-speaking Fidonet's own
    PQ> standard cites a limitation of 'text unbounded' (i.e. unlimited),
    PQ> with control markers to contain the text, which, may have exceeded
    PQ> the capabilities of program compilers in those times.

    PQ> Also, please see the reply to me from my friend Richard Menedetter
    PQ> in Vienna, who reminded me of GoldEd's capability of UUE _encoding_
    PQ> files (as well as decoding such). I mention this in case it forms a
    PQ> part of your point package. Mmm... if I am telling you things of
    PQ> which you are already aware, then you will know what to ignore.
    PQ> Oops.

    I use my point package (Golded) rarely. That's why I try sending uue
    sections via Thunderbird. There is a well known file manager Total
    Commander - it can easily encode/decode uue files. So I try to check it
    and I send a little photo in three files (using Thunderbird). Every part
    has the maximum size of 20k. In this message I put the first part.

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    Bye, Paul!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidotest 2018
    --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds
    * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2)
  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Paul Quinn on Thu Jul 26 19:49:17 2018
    Hi, Paul Quinn!
    I read your message from 26.07.2018 00:16

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    Bye, Paul!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidotest 2018
    --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds
    * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2)
  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Paul Quinn on Thu Jul 26 19:50:10 2018
    Hi, Paul Quinn!
    I read your message from 26.07.2018 00:16

    And finally

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    ==========================================

    Bye, Paul!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidotest 2018
    --- FIDOGATE 5.1.7ds
    * Origin: Pushkin's BBS (2:5020/2140.2)
  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to alexander koryagin on Fri Jul 27 10:57:10 2018
    Hi! Alexander,

    On 26 Jul 18 19:48, you wrote to me:

    I use my point package (Golded) rarely. That's why I try sending uue sections via Thunderbird. There is a well known file manager Total Commander - it can easily encode/decode uue files. So I try to check
    it and I send a little photo in three files (using Thunderbird). Every part has the maximum size of 20k. In this message I put the first
    part.

    (I've been using Total Commander[TC] for over 25 years, from a time when it was
    even called Windows C... sush, hush now, lest Bill Gates hears my words. That pretty much sums up my desire to use Linux systems & software these days. There are a couple of good Commander-style file managers for Linux BTW... three
    come to mind as I type.)

    ============= ocean_floor =====================

    All received. Thank you, muchly. I saved the parts to a file with my GoldEd/W32, and decoded the file with TC and the marked messages with GoldEd, and, separately with my preferred editor called SemPoint. (I have to ask, "did
    you go through this exercise of decoding, also?") It worked for the most part,
    with a couple of not-so-successful versions. One out of four methods worked. As I am not an expert in such matters, the faulty outcomes were wholly my doing.

    It was an interesting task. Thanks for the test(s), Alexander. :)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... "Be excellent to each other", Bill & Ted 1989.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Paul Quinn on Fri Jul 27 13:11:39 2018
    Hi, Paul Quinn!
    I read your message from 27.07.2018 03:16

    PQ> All received. Thank you, muchly. I saved the parts to a file
    PQ> with my GoldEd/W32, and decoded the file with TC and the marked
    PQ> messages with GoldEd, and, separately with my preferred editor
    PQ> called SemPoint. (I have to ask, "did you go through this
    PQ> exercise of decoding, also?") It worked for the most part, with a
    PQ> couple of not-so-successful versions. One out of four methods
    worked.
    PQ> As I am not an expert in such matters, the faulty outcomes were wholly
    PQ> my doing.

    There is no very quick decoding method in Thunderbird. For decoding uue sections I open standard editor Notepad; then I select and copypast all
    the sections into the open text file and save it as a *.uue file. Then I
    use Total Commander to decode a uue file.

    But Fidolook (a fidonet extension for Microsoft Outlook mailing program)
    can combine many messages with uue sections and show the final picture.

    Bye, Paul!
    Alexander Koryagin
    fido7.fidotest 2018
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Fri Jul 27 12:08:43 2018
    Hi Paul,

    On 2018-07-27 10:57:10, you wrote to alexander koryagin:

    (I've been using Total Commander[TC] for over 25 years, from a time
    when it was even called Windows C... sush, hush now, lest Bill Gates
    hears my words. That pretty much sums up my desire to use Linux
    systems & software these days. There are a couple of good
    Commander-style file managers for Linux BTW... three come to mind as I type.)

    Name your favourits!

    Mine are Midnight Commander, because I'm from the DOS age when Norton Commander
    ruled! ;)

    And in a graphical environment I use Krusader.

    ============= ocean_floor =====================

    All received. Thank you, muchly. I saved the parts to a file with my GoldEd/W32, and decoded the file with TC and the marked messages with GoldEd, and, separately with my preferred editor called SemPoint. (I have to ask, "did you go through this exercise of decoding, also?") It worked for the most part, with a couple of not-so-successful versions. One out
    of
    four methods worked. As I am not an expert in such matters, the faulty outcomes were wholly my doing.

    What I did was saving the three messages to 1 file. Edit out the headers and other fluff caused by the split of the file with a text editor (mcedit). And used uudeview on the resulting file...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jul 27 21:27:17 2018
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On 27 Jul 18 12:08, you wrote to me:

    There are a couple of good Commander-style file managers for Linux
    BTW... three come to mind as I type.)

    Name your favourits!

    Favourites, mmm. If I can't have TC, then: Tux Commander, GNOME Commander and Midnight Commander. (Some screenshots of them [except for MC] mixed in with some other fun at: http://members.dodo.com.au/~colgilly/Page.html)

    Mine are Midnight Commander, because I'm from the DOS age when Norton Commander ruled! ;)

    'ken oath! I still have NC installed in a vBox around here somewhere, alongside Wordstar 3.xx![sfx: bigger grin than yours]

    And in a graphical environment I use Krusader.

    Nope. I don't do KDE any more. They lost the plot after v2.-something.

    One out of four methods worked. As I am not an expert in such
    matters, the faulty outcomes were wholly my doing.

    What I did was saving the three messages to 1 file. Edit out the
    headers and other fluff caused by the split of the file with a text
    editor (mcedit). And used uudeview on the resulting file...

    No need to even edit them before use with TC. GoldEd & SemPoint just extracted
    the goodies from the messagebase and created the JPG. Wham-bam thank you, m'am. (Oops, that is 'merican not Dutch.)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... And the colored girls say: Doo do doo, doo do doo,
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Paul Quinn on Fri Jul 27 18:35:32 2018
    Hi Paul,

    On 2018-07-27 21:27:17, you wrote to me:

    Name your favourits!

    Favourites, mmm. If I can't have TC, then: Tux Commander, GNOME Commander

    They look more like Total Commander than krusader! ;)

    Mine are Midnight Commander, because I'm from the DOS age when Norton
    Commander ruled! ;)

    'ken oath! I still have NC installed in a vBox around here somewhere, alongside Wordstar 3.xx![sfx: bigger grin than yours]

    I have some floppies at work. But if they still work is a mystery after more than a decade of not using them. ;)

    And in a graphical environment I use Krusader.

    Nope. I don't do KDE any more. They lost the plot after v2.-something.

    It's kind of the standard on openSUSE. I'm not botherd by it...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/384.125 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Jul 28 08:41:52 2018
    Hi! Wilfred,

    On 07/28/2018 02:35 AM, you wrote:

    Favourites, mmm. If I can't have TC, then: Tux Commander, GNOME
    Commander
    They look more like Total Commander than krusader! ;)

    Look like, yes. But operate more like NC/MC. No click'n'drag, you see. No hassles; it's second nature now.

    somewhere, alongside Wordstar 3.xx![sfx: bigger grin than yours]
    I have some floppies at work. But if they still work is a mystery after more than a decade of not using them. ;)

    vBox == VirtualBox. My NC & WS still live! In some form of MS-DOS, either v6.(22?) or v7.01 (Win98SE's DOS). The NC version looks European, with a menu option for an (actually used) analogue terminal 'app'. :)

    Nope. I don't do KDE any more. They lost the plot after
    v2.-something.
    It's kind of the standard on openSUSE. I'm not botherd by it...

    I used it in my first Linux install (Lycoris desktop in ~2005), and loved it. In 2006-2007 I was using very minimal X environments in Puppy Linux, in versions like 2.14CE, etc, and never looked back.

    Today it's Xubuntu that twists my knobs for me, coz I refused to do the Unity GUI. I'll be upgrading my old Dell vBox desktop-come server still running Ubuntu 10-04 LTS to a later Xubuntu when I am gifted a roundtoit, any day now.
    :-P

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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