• SidPlay for DOS?

    From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to All on Sat Aug 4 09:43:43 2018
    Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play SIDs on a
    Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to Harry Potter on Sat Aug 4 16:17:26 2018
    On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
    SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.

    According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was
    from 2015.
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  • From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to All on Sat Aug 4 14:21:00 2018
    Downloaded it. Thanks! :) I'll try it now.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:770/3 to Andreas Kohlbach on Sun Aug 5 00:05:49 2018
    Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
    SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.

    According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was from 2015.

    The last update to that page anyway, the actual software is from 1996
    and the accuracy of the emulation is noticeably worse than most later
    SID players. However it does consume far, far, fewer system resources
    which means it even works on my old 486. Fun interface as well.

    This is the original SIDplay homepage, which also lists Open Cubic
    Player and VACSiD as other options for DOS: http://web.archive.org/web/20060822111611/http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5147/sidplay/download.html

    OpenCP:
    http://www.cubic.org/player/

    VACSiD:
    https://sites.google.com/site/amautsch/sanction
    - I haven't tried this one. The download link was corrupted, so I
    got it from here instead:
    http://sta.c64.org/dosprg.html

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  • From Thierry64@3:770/3 to All on Sun Aug 5 14:28:37 2018
    On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:05:49 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid
    (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

    I can confirm Sidplayer v1.44 works in DOS , im use it all the time ,
    v1.23 and v1.44 works in mi PC 386DX40mhz , 8mb RAM, DOS 6.22 and
    Sound Blaster Pro 2.0

    VacSID require more power ( Cubic Player Style , Like it this player!!
    ) , PC 486 66mhz ( i think 50mhz works ) , im use it but in emulated
    pc 486DX2-66MHZ 16mb RAM , Sound Blaster PRO 2.0 in PC-EMU , exelent
    and real emulator. ( play it Sidplayer in PC-Emu Too )

    CSDB All Version VACSid

    https://csdb.dk/search/?seinsel=all&search=vacsid&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

    CSDB All Version SIDplayer DOS ( Michael Schwendt )

    https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=4268

    Last Version v1.44 DOS

    best regards

    From Argentina

    Thierry


    Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
    SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.

    According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was
    from 2015.

    The last update to that page anyway, the actual software is from 1996
    and the accuracy of the emulation is noticeably worse than most later
    SID players. However it does consume far, far, fewer system resources
    which means it even works on my old 486. Fun interface as well.

    This is the original SIDplay homepage, which also lists Open Cubic
    Player and VACSiD as other options for DOS: >http://web.archive.org/web/20060822111611/http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5147/sidplay/download.html

    OpenCP:
    http://www.cubic.org/player/

    VACSiD:
    https://sites.google.com/site/amautsch/sanction
    - I haven't tried this one. The download link was corrupted, so I
    got it from here instead:
    http://sta.c64.org/dosprg.html

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  • From Thierry64@3:770/3 to All on Sun Aug 5 14:47:15 2018
    On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 14:28:37 -0300, Thierry64
    <thierrykurt2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

    PS : Off the record

    Im use Sidplayer 1.23 in my real PC 386 to hear my all time classic
    sound track , Tetris - Mirrorsoft -.

    http://hvsc.csdb.dk/MUSICIANS/B/Beben_Wally/Tetris.sid

    I do not know, but in that player the beginning is heard better than
    in all new players whether they are for c64 or pc.



    On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 00:05:49 +0000 (UTC), not@telling.you.invalid
    (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote:

    I can confirm Sidplayer v1.44 works in DOS , im use it all the time ,
    v1.23 and v1.44 works in mi PC 386DX40mhz , 8mb RAM, DOS 6.22 and
    Sound Blaster Pro 2.0

    VacSID require more power ( Cubic Player Style , Like it this player!!
    ) , PC 486 66mhz ( i think 50mhz works ) , im use it but in emulated
    pc 486DX2-66MHZ 16mb RAM , Sound Blaster PRO 2.0 in PC-EMU , exelent
    and real emulator. ( play it Sidplayer in PC-Emu Too )

    CSDB All Version VACSid

    https://csdb.dk/search/?seinsel=all&search=vacsid&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

    CSDB All Version SIDplayer DOS ( Michael Schwendt )

    https://csdb.dk/scener/?id=4268

    Last Version v1.44 DOS

    best regards

    From Argentina

    Thierry


    Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 09:43:43 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Hi! I want to know if there is a SID player for DOS. I want to play
    SIDs on a Win98 computer in DOS mode within a networked environment.

    According to https://csdb.dk/release/?id=136774 there is. Last update was >>> from 2015.

    The last update to that page anyway, the actual software is from 1996
    and the accuracy of the emulation is noticeably worse than most later
    SID players. However it does consume far, far, fewer system resources
    which means it even works on my old 486. Fun interface as well.

    This is the original SIDplay homepage, which also lists Open Cubic
    Player and VACSiD as other options for DOS: >>http://web.archive.org/web/20060822111611/http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/5147/sidplay/download.html

    OpenCP:
    http://www.cubic.org/player/

    VACSiD:
    https://sites.google.com/site/amautsch/sanction
    - I haven't tried this one. The download link was corrupted, so I
    got it from here instead:
    http://sta.c64.org/dosprg.html

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to Harry Potter on Sun Aug 5 15:45:13 2018
    On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Downloaded it. Thanks! :) I'll try it now.

    Does it work?

    I seem to remember to have used this one for my SID collection in plain
    DOS mode, before switching to Linux in 1998.

    Now I use the SID player part from the Commodore VICE emulator called . It has many options, like emulate the 6581 or 8580.

    Vsid: PSID free pages: $0400-$9fff
    Vsid: Driver=$0400, Image=$F000-$FDFF, Init=$F0B9, Play=$F0BF
    Vsid: Title: Lightforce
    Vsid: Author: Rob Hubbard
    Vsid: Released: 1986 Gargoyle Games
    Vsid: Using PAL sync
    Vsid: SID model: UNKNOWN

    Ah, blast from the past. Was blown away by what Rob did in the 80s.

    Btw. the Video-LAN player AKA VLC also plays SID files.
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  • From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to Andreas Kohlbach on Sun Aug 5 14:19:38 2018
    On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 3:45:14 PM UTC-4, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
    On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 14:21:00 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Downloaded it. Thanks! :) I'll try it now.

    Does it work?

    I couldn't try it out: the computer was using a configuration that's low on Conventional RAM. :( I probably won't be able to try it until the next time I
    see my mother.

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  • From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to Harry Potter on Sun Aug 5 14:35:42 2018
    On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 5:19:39 PM UTC-4, Harry Potter wrote:
    I couldn't try it out: the computer was using a configuration that's low on
    Conventional RAM. :( I probably won't be able to try it until the next time I
    see my mother.

    I restarted the computer in DOS mode and tried SIDSHELL. I couldn't find the sample SID files. :( They were on a floppy and have a .SID extension.

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  • From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to All on Thu Aug 16 07:59:48 2018
    Uhh...How do I play a SID file in the DOS version of SIDPlay?

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to Harry Potter on Thu Aug 16 16:17:15 2018
    On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 07:59:48 -0700 (PDT), Harry Potter wrote:

    Uhh...How do I play a SID file in the DOS version of SIDPlay?

    Haven't used DOS for decades. But I seem to remember you just pass the
    SID file to it on the command line. Something like

    sidplay c:path\to\file\Rambo.sid

    That is how I do it on Linux, using vsid as part of VICE when I want to
    avoid the GUI.

    vsid -console /path/to/Rambo.sid

    But I'm just guessing.
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    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments
    https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@3:770/3 to Harry Potter on Thu Aug 16 23:58:19 2018
    Harry Potter <rose.joseph12@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Uhh...How do I play a SID file in the DOS version of SIDPlay?

    <sigh of relief> I've got your answer for you, but it took some
    effort. After checking that the installation on my DOS laptop
    was playing SIDs fine, I decided to give sidsetup.exe a test
    run. It turns out that it deletes the old sidplay.cfg file
    even if you cancel the set-up though, so I then had to run it
    again to set up the sound card. And then the SID files would
    no longer appear in the file selector!

    After a lot of fiddling with the sidplay.cfg file to work
    out what change I'd obviously made to it in the past in order
    to make it work, I finally figured it out:

    Change the line:
    DAT_ext = .DAT
    to:
    DAT_ext = .SID

    The manual sort of hints at this by saying that it supports
    ".DAT + .SID" files, but it took a long time for that to
    sink in!

    To be safe, I renamed "sidsetup.exe" "sidsetup.xxx" to
    encourage me to think twice before sabotaging myself again.

    SidPlay for DOS doesn't seem to support specifying files on
    the command line like the Linux ones do.


    P. S. VACSID seems to have the same probem, even with the
    SID extension seemingly correctly set in its ".INI" file.
    I don't know the cause of this one.

    Open Cubic Player works well, but I spent some time
    setting up the config file for that a long time ago.

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  • From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to All on Fri Aug 17 04:57:40 2018
    Computer Nerd Kev: I thank you for your help. I'm at my mother's house with the computer right now, so I should be able to try it out soon. :)

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  • From Harry Potter@3:770/3 to Harry Potter on Mon Aug 27 06:16:40 2018
    On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 7:57:42 AM UTC-4, Harry Potter wrote:
    Computer Nerd Kev: I thank you for your help. I'm at my mother's house with
    the computer right now, so I should be able to try it out soon. :)

    I tried it and got an error stating that there is no EMS memory. :( I disabled EMS because I wanted the extra memory for other purposes. I have QEMM386 for Windows somewhere, or if I don't, I can downloaded it from vetusware.com. However, there is a
    problem with the computer that certain drivers couldn't be loaded. Four of the
    drivers are from a dead version of QEMM I hard-uninstalled from the computer due to an incompatibility with DriveSpace. Will reinstalling fix the problem?

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