I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers like the Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the ATARI 800 XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of the Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the king of home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 7:51:33 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Hearsewave wrote:800
I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers like the Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the ATARI
for sprites? Anyway, the C64 had many improvements over the Atari sprites give the 3+ years they had to develop them.XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of the Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the king of home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
The Atari 800 and C64 had sprites. Gee, I wonder where Commadore got the idea
But tell us all about the C64 graphic modes. Can you easily mix them? Did youhave re definable character sets?
How well did the C64's scrolling worked? I've seen many games where I wouldsay "Not to good"
The 400/800's 6502B ran at 1.8mhs, the C64? Oh yeah 1.0what that means then the answer is no.
Did the C64 have display lists or display list interrupts. If you don't know
The C64 was a very good machine BUT the 400/800 was NOT a POS.
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 7:51:33 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Hearsewave wrote:
I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers like the >> Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the ATARI 800 >> XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of the
Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of
ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the king of >> home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
The Atari 800 and C64 had sprites. Gee, I wonder where Commadore got
the idea for sprites? Anyway, the C64 had many improvements over the
Atari sprites give the 3+ years they had to develop them.
But tell us all about the C64 graphic modes. Can you easily mix them?
Did you have re definable character sets?
How well did the C64's scrolling worked? I've seen many games where I wouldsay "Not to good"
The 400/800's 6502B ran at 1.8mhs, the C64? Oh yeah 1.0
On Thu, 10 May 2018 22:15:28 -0700 (PDT), bradleyjbell@comcast.net wrote:
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 7:51:33 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Hearsewave wrote:
I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers
like the
Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the
ATARI 800
XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of
the
Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of >>> ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the
king of
home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
The Atari 800 and C64 had sprites. Gee, I wonder where Commadore got
the idea for sprites? Anyway, the C64 had many improvements over the
Atari sprites give the 3+ years they had to develop them.
True.
But tell us all about the C64 graphic modes. Can you easily mix them?
Did you have re definable character sets?
AFAIK you cannot mix graphic modes on the Commodore 64. But you could
edit the character set.
How well did the C64's scrolling worked? I've seen many games where Iwould say "Not to good"
I think it used a kind of frame bugger. There was a routine to scroll 7
or 8 bits. In the meantime you could prepare a new bitmap and switch to
that after the bit scroll.
The 400/800's 6502B ran at 1.8mhs, the C64? Oh yeah 1.0
If the hardware ("GPU") was superior that didn't really matter.
The Commodore C64 is the Wurst computer. The VIC-20 is the most Fickencomputer.
On Fri, 11 May 2018 13:46:26 -0700 (PDT), Shaun Bebbington wrote:computer.
The Commodore C64 is the Wurst computer. The VIC-20 is the most Ficken
I disagree. Well being a Commodore 64 user.
I could now raise the question, what was the king of the 8bit computers
of the early 80s. I suppose it was the Commodore 64 by outperforming any competitor in the sheer numbers of units sold. Suppose the Atari 8bit
line came second. There might even have been better computers. But they
were either too expensive or didn't had the distribution network to make
an impact. I think the Memotech MTX <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memotech_MTX> could had taken the crown,
but came too late (1983) and had financial problems leading to their demise. --
Andreas
My random toughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
In the UK, the Commodore C64 was more expensive than other machines, so manychose Sinclairs, though it has a good Wurst rating because of it's sausage-feeling keyboard (at least on the runner keys models).
In the UK, the Commodore C64 was more expensive than other machines,so many chose Sinclairs, though it has a good Wurst rating because of
it's sausage-feeling keyboard (at least on the runner keys models).
rubber*
On 2018-05-11 15:01, Andreas Kohlbach : bradleyjbell@comcast.net wrote:
On Thu, 10 May 2018 22:15:28 -0700 (PDT), bradleyjbell@comcast.net wrote: >>>
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 7:51:33 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Hearsewave wrote: >>>> I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers
like the
Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the
ATARI 800
XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of
the
Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of >>>> ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the
king of
home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
The Atari 800 and C64 had sprites. Gee, I wonder where Commadore got
the idea for sprites? Anyway, the C64 had many improvements over the
Atari sprites give the 3+ years they had to develop them.
True.
In the end, sprites was a dead end. After amiga, there was almost no use
of sprites apart from the mousepointer at all, it was all done
differently using the GPU in a BOB-like way from 1995-ish onward.
But tell us all about the C64 graphic modes. Can you easily mix them?
Did you have re definable character sets?
AFAIK you cannot mix graphic modes on the Commodore 64. But you could
edit the character set.
Well, raster interrupts allow you to do it, which almost all games and
demos do (did).
On Sun, 13 May 2018 10:01:40 -0700 (PDT), Shaun Bebbington wrote:
In the UK, the Commodore C64 was more expensive than other machines,so many chose Sinclairs, though it has a good Wurst rating because of
it's sausage-feeling keyboard (at least on the runner keys models).
rubber*
Chicklet. ;-)
The Sinclair were only successful because of the price. If you look at
the markets outside the UK the C64 had the biggest market share, even outperforming the IBM PC for some time.
<http://ankman.de/market_1984.jpg> is from what the 8BitGuy on Youtube provided for the 8Bit computer market in 1984 for the US. So figures from
the UK and other markets are ignored.
--
Andreas
My random toughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
On Thu, 10 May 2018 22:15:28 -0700 (PDT), bradleyjbell@comcast.net wrote:
[snip...] [snip...] [snip...]
But tell us all about the C64 graphic modes. Can you easily mix them?
Did you have re definable character sets?
AFAIK you cannot mix graphic modes on the Commodore 64. But you could
edit the character set.
The Atari 800 and C64 had sprites. Gee, I wonder where Commadore got
the idea for sprites? Anyway, the C64 had many improvements over the
Atari sprites give the 3+ years they had to develop them.
True.
In the end, sprites was a dead end. After amiga, there was almost no use
of sprites apart from the mousepointer at all, it was all done
differently using the GPU in a BOB-like way from 1995-ish onward.
Didn't the Amiga also use sprites besides of bobs?
I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers like the Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the ATARI 800 XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of the Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the king of home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
On Sunday, January 16, 2011 at 8:51:33 AM UTC-5, Lloyd Hearsewave wrote:800
I don't understand why people are still using crappy doorstoppers like the Sinclair Spectrum and ugly black and white heaps of trash like the ATARI
XL.
Both of these computers failed in the 80s and look at the graphics of the Spectrum - ugly, monochrome, no scrolling and no sprites.
The ATARI has only 3 ugly colors, ugly sprites and bad scrolling. 99% of ATARI games are crap.
All the games are MUCH superior on the C64 and the C64 truly is the king of home computers!
So please throw away your ATARIs and Spectrums and buy a C64 on ebay!
I love how people are still feeding the trolls after all these years.Awesome. :-)
I wanna play....PROCESSING!"
"SEGA GENESIS was SOOO much better than SNES because it had BLAST
Unless your CPU supports BLAST PROCESSING then you are garbage.
:-D tee hee
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