• The C64 Mini

    From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to All on Tue Apr 3 02:00:10 2018
    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same time, and
    I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple devices like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds.

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  • From Geo@3:770/3 to All on Tue Apr 3 20:54:51 2018
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same time, and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple devices like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
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  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to Geo on Tue Apr 3 04:50:25 2018
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:31:52 UTC+1, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Hello,

    I was wondering if there is somewhere a device to convert a C128D and C64SX keyboard to USB. If this is possible then it would make for a beautiful addition to my C64Mini :-)

    Anyone?

    Thanks!

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  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to Shaun Bebbington on Tue Apr 3 04:51:53 2018
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:50:26 UTC+1, Shaun Bebbington wrote:
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:31:52 UTC+1, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it
    is
    that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again
    at
    that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Hello,

    I was wondering if there is somewhere a device to convert a C128D and C64SX
    keyboard to USB. If this is possible then it would make for a beautiful addition to my C64Mini :-)

    Anyone?

    Thanks!

    Another thought: the joystick bundled with TheC64Mini is recognised in Windows - is there a way to use this with WinVICE or something?

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  • From Keith Matthews@3:712/620 to Shaun Bebbington on Tue Apr 3 22:30:56 2018
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to Geo on Tue Apr 03 2018 04:50:25

    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:31:52 UTC+1, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Hello,

    I was wondering if there is somewhere a device to convert a C128D and C64SX keyboard to USB. If this is possible then it would make for a beautiful addition to my C64Mini :-)

    Anyone?

    Thanks!


    I don't think it is likely.

    There is the Keyrah, but I think the does the opposite direction?


    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
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    * Origin: The Dungeon BBS Canberra, Australia. (3:712/620)
  • From Keith Matthews@3:712/620 to Shaun Bebbington on Tue Apr 3 22:31:55 2018
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to Shaun Bebbington on Tue Apr 03 2018 04:51:53

    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:50:26 UTC+1, Shaun Bebbington wrote:
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:31:52 UTC+1, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it
    is
    that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again
    at
    that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Hello,

    I was wondering if there is somewhere a device to convert a C128D and C64SX
    keyboard to USB. If this is possible then it would make for a beautiful addition to my C64Mini :-)

    Anyone?

    Thanks!

    Another thought: the joystick bundled with TheC64Mini is recognised in Windows - is there a way to use this with WinVICE or something?



    So it's a USB Joystick?

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
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    * Origin: The Dungeon BBS Canberra, Australia. (3:712/620)
  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to Keith Matthews on Tue Apr 3 06:19:48 2018
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 13:41:36 UTC+1, Keith Matthews wrote:
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to Shaun Bebbington on Tue Apr 03 2018 04:51:53

    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:50:26 UTC+1, Shaun Bebbington wrote:
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:31:52 UTC+1, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it
    is
    that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the
    same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for
    multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again
    at
    that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Hello,

    I was wondering if there is somewhere a device to convert a C128D and C64SX
    keyboard to USB. If this is possible then it would make for a beautiful addition to my C64Mini :-)

    Anyone?

    Thanks!

    Another thought: the joystick bundled with TheC64Mini is recognised in Windows - is there a way to use this with WinVICE or something?



    So it's a USB Joystick?

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    Yes - it is picked up on Windows. The C64Mini only has two connectors to the outside world in the form of a USB. That is all. But I have extended it with a USB hub. This works fine as long as the AC adaptor is >1.5 amp.

    Thanks,

    Shaun.

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  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to All on Tue Apr 3 08:48:56 2018
    I'm going to see if I can get GEOS to boot on the Mini at some point. Because GEOS.

    Regards,

    Shaun.

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to Geo on Tue Apr 3 17:30:25 2018
    On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:54:51 +1000, Geo wrote:

    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)

    The 8bitguy reviewed it on Youtube. And when he asked the company
    producing it they said if the C64 Mini is a success they will create one
    with a real keyboard in the future.

    [...]

    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Although I am retro too I would not go with any of these. In my opinion
    they are just an emulator with a modern CPU (usually ARM), running on
    Linux in a fancy box. And like in the case of the C64 Mini not even have
    a functioning keyboard.

    You can go then with any emulator, like VICE, running it on your modern
    PC.

    It would be okay for me though if someone recreated the main board,
    mounted a 6510, VIC II and SID (I heard they are hard to come by). And
    may be some logic to output a HDMI signal and have USB connector to
    connect a keyboard and joystick.
    --
    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments
    https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to All on Tue Apr 3 15:23:11 2018
    Ultimate64 is this?

    https://ultimate64.com/Ultimate-64

    Thanks in advance,

    Shaun.

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  • From Keith Matthews@3:712/620 to Andreas Kohlbach on Wed Apr 4 12:48:10 2018
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Andreas Kohlbach to Geo on Tue Apr 03 2018 17:30:25

    On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:54:51 +1000, Geo wrote:

    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)

    The 8bitguy reviewed it on Youtube. And when he asked the company
    producing it they said if the C64 Mini is a success they will create one with a real keyboard in the future.

    [...]

    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Although I am retro too I would not go with any of these. In my opinion
    they are just an emulator with a modern CPU (usually ARM), running on
    Linux in a fancy box. And like in the case of the C64 Mini not even have
    a functioning keyboard.

    You can go then with any emulator, like VICE, running it on your modern
    PC.

    It would be okay for me though if someone recreated the main board,
    mounted a 6510, VIC II and SID (I heard they are hard to come by). And
    may be some logic to output a HDMI signal and have USB connector to
    connect a keyboard and joystick.
    --
    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments
    https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/


    Hi Andreas,

    The Ultimate 64 is pretty much what you describe. it is not emulation because it is FPGA which is real H/W. Gideons intent for it is as a replacement board for broken C64 motherboards, so you can still have a real C64 case and Kbd etc , but with modern motherboard.

    There are other people working on C64 motherboard replacements that you do actually just swap chips on, but unfortunatly, it is more often thatn not the PLA that dies, and they are impossible to obtain. Hence FPGA. 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- SBBSecho 3.04-Linux
    * Origin: The Dungeon BBS Canberra, Australia. (3:712/620)
  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to Keith Matthews on Tue Apr 3 23:16:41 2018
    On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 03:53:35 UTC+1, Keith Matthews wrote:
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Andreas Kohlbach to Geo on Tue Apr 03 2018 17:30:25

    On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:54:51 +1000, Geo wrote:

    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about
    it
    is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated
    drive
    speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then
    again
    at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)

    The 8bitguy reviewed it on Youtube. And when he asked the company producing it they said if the C64 Mini is a success they will create one with a real keyboard in the future.

    [...]

    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Although I am retro too I would not go with any of these. In my opinion they are just an emulator with a modern CPU (usually ARM), running on Linux in a fancy box. And like in the case of the C64 Mini not even have
    a functioning keyboard.

    You can go then with any emulator, like VICE, running it on your modern PC.

    It would be okay for me though if someone recreated the main board, mounted a 6510, VIC II and SID (I heard they are hard to come by). And
    may be some logic to output a HDMI signal and have USB connector to connect a keyboard and joystick.
    --
    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments
    https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/


    Hi Andreas,

    The Ultimate 64 is pretty much what you describe. it is not emulation because it is FPGA which is real H/W. Gideons intent for it is as a replacement board for broken C64 motherboards, so you can still have a real C64 case and Kbd
    etc
    , but with modern motherboard.

    There are other people working on C64 motherboard replacements that you do actually just swap chips on, but unfortunatly, it is more often thatn not the PLA that dies, and they are impossible to obtain. Hence FPGA. 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    I was wondering how the Ultimate64 was Linux, hoping that I could run Apache on
    it as well as using it as a C64. That would be cool; a server that *looked* like a Commodore C64. I am now disappointed that it doesn't run Linux. It's a cool piece of kit
    though.

    Regards,

    Shaun.

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  • From Keith Matthews@3:712/620 to Shaun Bebbington on Wed Apr 4 17:32:47 2018
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to Keith Matthews on Tue Apr 03 2018 23:16:41

    On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 03:53:35 UTC+1, Keith Matthews wrote:
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Andreas Kohlbach to Geo on Tue Apr 03 2018 17:30:25

    On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:54:51 +1000, Geo wrote:

    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about
    it
    is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated
    drive
    speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then
    again
    at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)

    The 8bitguy reviewed it on Youtube. And when he asked the company producing it they said if the C64 Mini is a success they will create one with a real keyboard in the future.

    [...]

    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Although I am retro too I would not go with any of these. In my opinion they are just an emulator with a modern CPU (usually ARM), running on Linux in a fancy box. And like in the case of the C64 Mini not even have
    a functioning keyboard.

    You can go then with any emulator, like VICE, running it on your modern PC.

    It would be okay for me though if someone recreated the main board, mounted a 6510, VIC II and SID (I heard they are hard to come by). And may be some logic to output a HDMI signal and have USB connector to connect a keyboard and joystick.
    --
    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments
    https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/


    Hi Andreas,

    The Ultimate 64 is pretty much what you describe. it is not emulation because it is FPGA which is real H/W. Gideons intent for it is as a replacement board for broken C64 motherboards, so you can still have a real C64 case and Kbd
    etc
    , but with modern motherboard.

    There are other people working on C64 motherboard replacements that you do actually just swap chips on, but unfortunatly, it is more often thatn not the PLA that dies, and they are impossible to obtain. Hence FPGA. 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    I was wondering how the Ultimate64 was Linux, hoping that I could run Apache on
    it as well as using it as a C64. That would be cool; a server that *looked* like a Commodore C64. I am now disappointed that it doesn't run Linux. It's a cool piece of kit
    though.

    Regards,

    Shaun.




    Shaun thats easy,



    http://www.vesalia.de/e_keyrahv2.htm


    plus


    Raspberry Pi


    Plus


    old C64 case from C64 with a dead motherbard. 8-)





    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- SBBSecho 3.04-Linux
    * Origin: The Dungeon BBS Canberra, Australia. (3:712/620)
  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to Keith Matthews on Wed Apr 4 08:58:06 2018
    On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 08:38:26 UTC+1, Keith Matthews wrote:
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to Keith Matthews on Tue Apr 03 2018 23:16:41

    On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 03:53:35 UTC+1, Keith Matthews wrote:
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Andreas Kohlbach to Geo on Tue Apr 03 2018 17:30:25

    On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 20:54:51 +1000, Geo wrote:

    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about
    it
    is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated
    drive
    speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then
    again
    at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)

    The 8bitguy reviewed it on Youtube. And when he asked the company producing it they said if the C64 Mini is a success they will create one with a real keyboard in the future.

    [...]

    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Although I am retro too I would not go with any of these. In my
    opinion
    they are just an emulator with a modern CPU (usually ARM), running on Linux in a fancy box. And like in the case of the C64 Mini not even have
    a functioning keyboard.

    You can go then with any emulator, like VICE, running it on your
    modern
    PC.

    It would be okay for me though if someone recreated the main board, mounted a 6510, VIC II and SID (I heard they are hard to come by).
    And
    may be some logic to output a HDMI signal and have USB connector to connect a keyboard and joystick.
    --
    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/


    Hi Andreas,

    The Ultimate 64 is pretty much what you describe. it is not emulation because it is FPGA which is real H/W. Gideons intent for it is as a replacement board for broken C64 motherboards, so you can still have a real C64 case and Kbd
    etc
    , but with modern motherboard.

    There are other people working on C64 motherboard replacements that you
    do
    actually just swap chips on, but unfortunatly, it is more often thatn
    not
    the PLA that dies, and they are impossible to obtain. Hence FPGA. 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    I was wondering how the Ultimate64 was Linux, hoping that I could run
    Apache
    on
    it as well as using it as a C64. That would be cool; a server that
    *looked*
    like a Commodore C64. I am now disappointed that it doesn't run Linux.
    It's
    a cool piece of kit
    though.

    Regards,

    Shaun.




    Shaun thats easy,



    http://www.vesalia.de/e_keyrahv2.htm


    plus


    Raspberry Pi


    Plus


    old C64 case from C64 with a dead motherbard. 8-)





    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo

    I don't need the Raspberry PI as I already own a TheC64Mini - a shame it won't covert a SX64 keyboard. That would be cool.

    Regards,

    Shaun.

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  • From shaunb@cruise.co.uk@3:770/3 to All on Fri Apr 6 08:53:53 2018
    Question; Darren Melbourne (who is involved with TheC64Mini) had something to do with making the C64DTV a real-life thing. Does this mean that TheC64Mini is running some form of DTV emulation? Or is it normal Commodore C64 that is emulated?

    Many thanks!

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to shaunb@cruise.co.uk on Fri Apr 6 15:29:16 2018
    On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT), shaunb@cruise.co.uk wrote:

    Question; Darren Melbourne (who is involved with TheC64Mini) had
    something to do with making the C64DTV a real-life thing. Does this
    mean that TheC64Mini is running some form of DTV emulation? Or is it
    normal Commodore C64 that is emulated?

    A normal C64 is emulated as far as I know. Pretty boring, IMO.
    --
    Andreas

    http://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/2018/04/retro-consoles.html

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  • From Jordan Baty@3:770/3 to Geo on Fri Apr 6 21:17:42 2018
    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 21:31:52 UTC+10, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Interesting to hear this. I'm working on a micro-sized IBM 5150 PC with a fully
    functional monitor and keyboard (Raspberry Pi Zero powered, running DOSBOX), but I was considering making the keyboard a static piece of plastic as it's basically impossible
    to use.

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  • From Keith Matthews@3:712/620 to Jordan Baty on Sat Apr 7 16:27:21 2018
    Re: Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Jordan Baty to Geo on Fri Apr 06 2018 21:17:42

    On Tuesday, 3 April 2018 21:31:52 UTC+10, Geo wrote:
    To: Shaun Bebbington
    Re: The C64 Mini
    By: Shaun Bebbington to comp.sys.cbm on Tue Apr 03 2018 02:00:10

    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.cbm

    Hi,

    I've got one of these devices; it's alright. One thing I like about it is that my daughter likes programming it, and making PETSCII art with it.

    I've had to buy a USB hub to run a pen drive and keyboard at the same
    time,
    and I've found that AC adaptors running at 2amp is best for multiple
    devices
    like this.

    A shame I can't licence JiffyDOS on it to help with the emulated drive speeds. --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108


    I was pretty disappointed to see that the KBD is not real, but then again at that size I guess it would have less usable that even a Spectrum 8-)


    It would be good if it was possible to created the equivalent of multicart images for it. 8-)


    I'm thinking about getting an Ultimate 64 board instead! 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
    --- Synchronet 3.17a-Linux NewsLink 1.108
    * The Dungeon - Canberra, ACT, Australia -
    telnet://dungeon.barnabasmusic.com

    Interesting to hear this. I'm working on a micro-sized IBM 5150 PC with a fully
    functional monitor and keyboard (Raspberry Pi Zero powered, running DOSBOX), but I was considering making the keyboard a static piece of plastic as it's basically impossible
    to use.



    Remember Jordan, we had to put up with some truly awful keyboards back in the day! So it might not be as bad as you think 8-)

    Regards..Geo
    ooooOOOOoooo
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  • From Shaun Bebbington@3:770/3 to Andreas Kohlbach on Sat Apr 7 00:11:01 2018
    On Friday, 6 April 2018 20:29:17 UTC+1, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT), shaunb@cruise.co.uk wrote:

    Question; Darren Melbourne (who is involved with TheC64Mini) had
    something to do with making the C64DTV a real-life thing. Does this
    mean that TheC64Mini is running some form of DTV emulation? Or is it
    normal Commodore C64 that is emulated?

    A normal C64 is emulated as far as I know. Pretty boring, IMO.
    --
    Andreas

    http://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/2018/04/retro-consoles.html

    I asked the question on the TheC64Mini Facebook group - a future update may allow the enhanced VIC modes of the C64DTV for instance.

    I'd be interested in being able to purchase an officially licensed JiffyDOS ROM
    for it, for instance.

    Regards,

    Shaun.

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  • From J. Robertson@3:770/3 to ank@spamfence.net on Sat Apr 14 02:47:59 2018
    On Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:29:16 -0400, Andreas Kohlbach
    <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT), shaunb@cruise.co.uk wrote:

    Question; Darren Melbourne (who is involved with TheC64Mini) had
    something to do with making the C64DTV a real-life thing. Does this
    mean that TheC64Mini is running some form of DTV emulation? Or is it
    normal Commodore C64 that is emulated?

    A normal C64 is emulated as far as I know. Pretty boring, IMO.

    From what I've read it runs a version of the VICE emulator.

    Jason

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  • From Andreas Kohlbach@3:770/3 to J. Robertson on Sat Apr 14 16:26:13 2018
    On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 02:47:59 -0400, J. Robertson wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:29:16 -0400, Andreas Kohlbach
    <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:

    On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 08:53:53 -0700 (PDT), shaunb@cruise.co.uk wrote:

    Question; Darren Melbourne (who is involved with TheC64Mini) had
    something to do with making the C64DTV a real-life thing. Does this
    mean that TheC64Mini is running some form of DTV emulation? Or is it
    normal Commodore C64 that is emulated?

    A normal C64 is emulated as far as I know. Pretty boring, IMO.

    From what I've read it runs a version of the VICE emulator.

    As I said in
    http://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/2018/04/retro-consoles.html,
    Emulation is cheating. You don't need a "Retro console" if you want to
    run vintage programs for any machine. Save your money and run a software emulator available for you PC/Mac.

    If you need something looking like a vintage computer, do some 3D
    printing, and put a Retropie or other boards in it.
    --
    Andreas

    My random toughts and comments
    https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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  • From jeff.dyer63@googlemail.com@3:770/3 to All on Sun Jun 2 13:01:54 2019
    I know its an old thread but the keyrah let's you use a real commodore keyboard
    as a USB keyboard for either normal pc use or emulation.

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