On 27/06/2017 16:29, cbmeeks wrote:

I hope it's not too late. Please, for the love of all things sacred...don't

ever scrap/recycle vintage computer gear. Yes, I admit some of it really is worthless (like old RS-232 cables) but vintage computers like Amiga's, PET's, VIC-20's, etc. are
dropping off the planet.

Of course, selling it could be the most advantageous for you in that you

could earn a profit.

If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means donate it.

Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.

You could always list them on CL for free pickup or even sell them on eBay

for $1 with local pickup only.

CL?

Anyway, just my suggestion.

Noted. (There was never really much chance of me throwing them away.)

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I hope it's not too late. Please, for the love of all things sacred...don't ever scrap/recycle vintage computer gear. Yes, I admit some of it really is worthless (like old RS-232 cables) but vintage computers like Amiga's, PET's, VIC-20's, etc. are
dropping off the planet.

Of course, selling it could be the most advantageous for you in that you could earn a profit.

If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means donate it. Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.

You could always list them on CL for free pickup or even sell them on eBay for $1 with local pickup only.

Anyway, just my suggestion.





On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 11:00:00 AM UTC-4, James Harris wrote:

I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives, acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
none work fully.

What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is relevant. Options:

* Sell
* Donate
* Scrap

Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are emulators the way to go now?

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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT), cbmeeks wrote:

I hope it's not too late. Please, for the love of all things
sacred...don't ever scrap/recycle vintage computer gear. Yes, I admit
some of it really is worthless (like old RS-232 cables) but vintage
computers like Amiga's, PET's, VIC-20's, etc. are dropping off the
planet.

Of course, selling it could be the most advantageous for you in that you

could earn a profit.

If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means donate
it. Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old
computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to
recycle.

You could always list them on CL for free pickup or even sell them on eBay

for $1 with local pickup only.

Anyway, just my suggestion.

Or a garage sell. Someone might stop by, see the old hardware and with a
smile and a tear in the eye, gets the wallet out and asks you how much.
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On 27 Jun 17 17:10:00 James Harris wrote...

On 27/06/2017 16:29, cbmeeks wrote:

If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means
donate it.

Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.

To which Drew Klenotic replies...

That's not really true. Just the other day I picked up a Timex Sinclair
1000 from my local Goodwill store (for $5!). Also, I've heard sometimes
they end up putting that stuff on their auction site.

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James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:

I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives, acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
none work fully.

What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
relevant. Options:

* Sell
* Donate
* Scrap

I would repair it all, it's rather easy if you know how to do it (and many
of us, know how).
So you might just sell the stuff and be happy (or donate to some museum
if you know one).
If you still want to scrap them, I guess I'd pay shipping costs (and again
I'm not the only one probably).

Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are emulators the way to go now?

Sure, emulators do work, but real hardware is more fun and works better than emulators most of the time :)

Best regards

Frank IZ8DWF

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I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
none work fully.

What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
relevant. Options:

* Sell
* Donate
* Scrap


Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are emulators the way to go now?


--
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On Thu, 11 May 2017 15:02:32 -0000 (UTC), frank wrote:

James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:

Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are
emulators the way to go now?

Sure, emulators do work, but real hardware is more fun and works better than emulators most of the time :)

Yeah, more like real sex with the real hardware. While an emulator is
more like fapping. ;-)

Not having any vintage hardware I use emulators. Poor hand of mine. ;-)
--
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On Thu, 11 May 2017 15:59:53 +0100, James Harris wrote:

I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives, acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I
know some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect
that none work fully.

What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
relevant. Options:

* Sell
* Donate
* Scrap

You could try to verify that it works, and make some buck^Wquid at Ebay then.

Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system
working. Are emulators the way to go now?

I use VICE <http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/> and sometimes even MAME to emulate a PET.

Still if you have working hardware that would be the way to go for me.
--
Andreas
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your toilet paper has page numbers on it.

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On 11/05/2017 16:02, frank wrote:

James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:

I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
none work fully.

What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
relevant. Options:

* Sell
* Donate
* Scrap

I would repair it all, it's rather easy if you know how to do it (and many
of us, know how).
So you might just sell the stuff and be happy (or donate to some museum
if you know one).
If you still want to scrap them, I guess I'd pay shipping costs (and again I'm not the only one probably).

It sounds as though the machines have some value. Maybe the best option
is to get them repaired and sell them. I found this firm which repairs
old machines:

http://www.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/VintageComputers

I saw that firm being recommended elsewhere but if anyone knows of or
would recommend another viable repairer, do let me know.

It would be good to keep at least one working system. The return of
nostalgia!


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On 2017-05-11 15:58, Andreas Kohlbach : frank wrote:

Yeah, more like real sex with the real hardware. While an emulator is
more like fapping. ;-)

Not having any vintage hardware I use emulators. Poor hand of mine. ;-)

Would you still enjoy "second hand" hardware? ;)

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On Fri, 12 May 2017 13:49:00 +1200, Janne Johansson wrote:

On 2017-05-11 15:58, Andreas Kohlbach : frank wrote:

Yeah, more like real sex with the real hardware. While an emulator is
more like fapping. ;-)

Not having any vintage hardware I use emulators. Poor hand of mine. ;-)

Would you still enjoy "second hand" hardware? ;)

Sure. If I had space and time for that.

Last thing I bought was an Amiga 500 from a flea market back in 2003 but
then moved often and never really got to buy a CRT monitor for it, so at
some point sold it on Ebay and never bought any other vintage hardware again. --
Andreas
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if your dad walks you to school because your in the same grade.

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On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 5:17:44 AM UTC-4, Drew Klenotic wrote:

On 27 Jun 17 17:10:00 James Harris wrote...

On 27/06/2017 16:29, cbmeeks wrote:

If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means
donate it.

Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.

To which Drew Klenotic replies...

That's not really true. Just the other day I picked up a Timex Sinclair
1000 from my local Goodwill store (for $5!). Also, I've heard sometimes
they end up putting that stuff on their auction site.

OK, you're only seeing the odd-ball instances that didn't go to recycle. Obviously, if they sent 15 other Sinclair's to the recycle center you wouldn't know it.

It really depends on the Goodwill (or other thrift store). One time I was in a
thrift store (similar to Goodwill) and they had a floppy drive with no price on
it. I asked them and they sold it to me for $0.99 USD. The guy told me that it was a "disk
drive and you can't use disk drives any more so I could have it for 99 cents".

Clearly, he had NO idea what it was. Granted, it wasn't worth much but the idea of "cannot use disk drives anymore" was wrong. What do you think he would
have done with a Timex Sinclair?

Atari's MIGHT survive thrift stores because everyone knows Atari. But my point
is that lesser known brands may be mistaken for junk and sent off.

Keep in mind these "experts" are the same people that keep around stupid cable TV tuners and broken kids pianos. They clearly have no expertise in what should be sold or discarded when it comes to electronics.

If you found a Sinclair...then awesome. I know the LGR guy finds stuff like that. But he must live in some bizzarro thrift store world or something. In my experiences, most people scrap that stuff.

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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:37:24 -0700 (PDT), cbmeeks wrote:

OK, you're only seeing the odd-ball instances that didn't go to
recycle. Obviously, if they sent 15 other Sinclair's to the recycle
center you wouldn't know it.

It really depends on the Goodwill (or other thrift store). One time I
was in a thrift store (similar to Goodwill) and they had a floppy
drive with no price on it. I asked them and they sold it to me for
$0.99 USD. The guy told me that it was a "disk drive and you can't
use disk drives any more so I could have it for 99 cents".

I wonder for how much Apple ][ and Tandys go.

Clearly, he had NO idea what it was. Granted, it wasn't worth much
but the idea of "cannot use disk drives anymore" was wrong. What do
you think he would have done with a Timex Sinclair?

Atari's MIGHT survive thrift stores because everyone knows Atari. But
my point is that lesser known brands may be mistaken for junk and sent
off.

Keep in mind these "experts" are the same people that keep around
stupid cable TV tuners and broken kids pianos. They clearly have no expertise in what should be sold or discarded when it comes to
electronics.

They also might be too young to know what they got there.

If you found a Sinclair...then awesome. I know the LGR guy finds
stuff like that. But he must live in some bizzarro thrift store world
or something. In my experiences, most people scrap that stuff.

See seems to be surrounded by 20 or so Goodwill stores and half a dozen
other thrift stores.

Btw. I mentioned in a comment on his Youtube page to please focus more on
the labels of the things he turns around in the stores. Would be
interesting to know manufacturing date of some of the items, or where it
was made.
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Andreas
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today's dinner was too slow crossing the highway yesterday.

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