BENNY PEDERSEN wrote to DENNIS SMITH <=-

Hello DENNIS!

18 Nov 03 13:57, DENNIS SMITH wrote to BENNY PEDERSEN:

Using Workbench 2.1 (due to my kickstart and the workbench fits on a
floppy)

even Envoy 3 fits on a single floppy :-)

Did you know Envoy 3 is a feature of OS4.x! :)

yep finally powered by a1000 :-)

Can't tell what your meaning! :-

is the SANA-II interface solved on A1 ?

Good topic! In CAM -- Club Amiga Monthly -- October #9 issue, Olaf Barthel wrote a very techinical article on "This is 'Roadshow'- A New TCP/IP Stack
For Amiga OS" The article can be read at www.os.amiga.com/cam, but you have
to be a club member by AmigaOne purchase. I'll try to give a short paragraph about it! =:o

Since Holger Kruse's Miami Deluxe set the standards for TCP/IP, Olaf Barthel modeled RoadShow around it! OS4 needs: DHCP, PPP, PPPoE, NAT, SSL and GUI. Miami did all this in about 500K bytes!

The RoadShow core was written/re-written around these elements:
Since SANA-II was crap with dialup and net drivers, SANA-IIR4 was created. PPP was written form scratch because of UNIX origins. PPPoE was Framed to the new PPP. The core program contents:
Two shared libraries - bsdsocket.library & usergroup.library;
Config files for routing, resolution, Inetd;
Config files & tools for IP filter and NAT;
Two PPP drivers -- serial and ethernet;
Tools for dial in & authetication
Firewall: Darren Reed's 'IP filter' was implemented. It's a Rule
based filtering system. Masquerading & NAT are used. The Amiga is a Firewall
or you can create you own.

So does that does that answer anything! :)

Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

Ah, 'one' -- AmigaOne -- and it works too!

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Hmmm, not bad...
:Dennis
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Hello DENNIS!

Nov 23 23:20 03, DENNIS SMITH wrote to BENNY PEDERSEN:

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-20.8 (i686))

Hmmm, not bad...

Msged is not a bad editor, just a shame it's not beeing maintained anymore, I saw there is compiler directives for Amiga in the source.

Is there actually DOS based fidonet tools, which works under AmigaOS?

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Viva la Multimail. :-)

blueMail ain't working too good imho. :-(

Regards,
Bo

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Hi Bo:
At 11:22 PM on 25 Nov 03, Bo Simonsen said to Dennis Smith:

Nov 23 23:20 03, DENNIS SMITH wrote to BENNY PEDERSEN:

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-20.8 (i686))

Hmmm, not bad...

Msged is not a bad editor, just a shame it's not beeing maintained

Oops, I was commenting on the linux! :) I didn't know 'Msged' was an editor..... =:o

Is there actually DOS based fidonet tools, which works under AmigaOS?

That sounds like the DLG system. I think Don Plesky, the Eastpointe BBS
SysOP, knows more about than I do. Ask him. :)

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-+- MultiMail/Linux v0.43
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Viva la Multimail. :-)

Ermm, it's OK for linux, but it's NOT Amiga. Since the latest update for UAE, I

burned all all the OS3.1 files to the CD and installed OS3.5. I've been looking

into all that WarpOS and PPC stuff that came with it; interesting. Anyway, QWK mail is working fine with Q-Blue 2.4 in the A1'miggy! I used AmiQWK2.9 and had problems with unpacker. It would abort unzipping because of a TZ env variable error and UTC error? Huh? UAE always boots fine with the correct hardware clock! So, I got a copy of Q-Blue off the old A2K and installed it today! :) Bam, it works fine! I think AmiQWK was hacking the clock. I don't know...

blueMail ain't working too good imho. :-(

Q-Blue is working perfect.....:-)

Regards,
Bo

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* Q-Blue 2.4 * I'm going bonkers without OS4 on this AmigaOne
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DENNIS SMITH wrote to BO SIMONSEN about ''Re: SANA-IIR4 =:o'':

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-20.8 (i686))

Hmmm, not bad...

Msged is not a bad editor, just a shame it's not beeing maintained

Oops, I was commenting on the linux! :) I didn't know 'Msged' was
an editor..... =:o

It's a FTN editor? Did you believe it was a tosser? ;-)

Is there actually DOS based fidonet tools, which works under AmigaOS?

That sounds like the DLG system. I think Don Plesky, the Eastpointe
BBS SysOP, knows more about than I do. Ask him. :)

Hmm.. I saw in the msgapi there was a SASC libery included, which should be a conio replacement for Amiga.

But who wants to run Dos based fidonet utilities on Amiga, then there is UMS and other goodies? ;-)

... AmigaOne-XE(G4)PPC, Deb.Linux3.0r1(2.4.22.PPC) until OS4.x!
-+- MultiMail/Linux v0.43
+ Origin: Eastpointe BBS (1:120/228)

Viva la Multimail. :-)

Ermm, it's OK for linux, but it's NOT Amiga. Since the latest
update for UAE, I burned all all the OS3.1 files to the CD and
installed OS3.5.

I thought so, but on UNIX it's the best.

I've been looking into all that WarpOS and PPC
stuff that came with it; interesting. Anyway, QWK mail is working
fine with Q-Blue 2.4 in the A1'miggy! I used AmiQWK2.9 and had
problems with unpacker.

AmiQWK was quite used by many afair. BTW Can spot handle QWK packages too or just FTN packages?

It would abort unzipping because of a TZ
env variable error and UTC error? Huh? UAE always boots fine with
the correct hardware clock! So, I got a copy of Q-Blue off the old
A2K and installed it today! :) Bam, it works fine! I think AmiQWK
was hacking the clock. I don't know...

Aha, didn't it use a external unpacker?

blueMail ain't working too good imho. :-(

Q-Blue is working perfect.....:-)

Okay :-)

Bo

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Hello Bo!

25 Nov 03 23:23, Bo Simonsen wrote to DENNIS SMITH:

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-20.8 (i686))

Hmmm, not bad...

Msged is not a bad editor, just a shame it's not beeing maintained anymore, I saw there is compiler directives for Amiga in the source.

i belive Tobias have an Amiga :-)

Is there actually DOS based fidonet tools, which works under AmigaOS?

nope

... AmigaOne-XE(G4)PPC, Deb.Linux3.0r1(2.4.22.PPC) until OS4.x!
-+- MultiMail/Linux v0.43
+ Origin: Eastpointe BBS (1:120/228)

Viva la Multimail. :-)

la france :-)

blueMail ain't working too good imho. :-(

who cares ? :-)

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rpm http://download.fedora.us/fedora/ redhat/8.0/i386 os updates stable rpm-src http://download.fedora.us/fedora/ redhat/8.0/i386 os updates stable
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hehe :-)


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Bo!

01 Dec 03 17:00, Bo Simonsen wrote to DENNIS SMITH:

But who wants to run Dos based fidonet utilities on Amiga, then there
is UMS and other goodies? ;-)

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-20.8 (i686))
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Benny Pedersen wrote to Bo Simonsen about ''SANA-IIR4 =:o'':

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-20.8 (i686))

Hmmm, not bad...

Msged is not a bad editor, just a shame it's not beeing maintained
anymore, I saw there is compiler directives for Amiga in the source.

i belive Tobias have an Amiga :-)

I don't know. :-) As far as I know of him, was he doing OS/2 stuff.

Is there actually DOS based fidonet tools, which works under AmigaOS?

nope

Okay.

-+- MultiMail/Linux v0.43
+ Origin: Eastpointe BBS (1:120/228)

Viva la Multimail. :-)

la france :-)

Indeed.

blueMail ain't working too good imho. :-(

who cares ? :-)

Linux users.

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University of Hawaii Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
rpm http://download.fedora.us/fedora/ redhat/8.0/i386 os updates
stable rpm-src http://download.fedora.us/fedora/ redhat/8.0/i386
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hehe :-)

You are not dropping Redhat anyway?

Bo

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Benny Pedersen wrote to Bo Simonsen about ''SANA-IIR4 =:o'':

But who wants to run Dos based fidonet utilities on Amiga, then there
is UMS and other goodies? ;-)

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Cool :-) There ain't a QWK-to-Squish yet for Linux use.. Damn sad that it went Amiga so bad.

I'll look forward to get a Amiga ;-)

Bo

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At 4:59 PM on 1 Dec 03, Bo Simonsen said to Dennis Smith:

DENNIS SMITH wrote to BO SIMONSEN about ''Re: SANA-IIR4 =:o'':

...

...Anyway, QWK mail is working
fine with Q-Blue 2.4 in the A1'miggy! I used AmiQWK2.9 and had
problems with unpacker.

AmiQWK was quite used by many afair. BTW Can spot handle QWK packages
too or just FTN packages?

It would abort unzipping because of a TZ
env variable error and UTC error? Huh? UAE always boots fine with
the correct hardware clock! So, I got a copy of Q-Blue off the old
A2K and installed it today! :) Bam, it works fine! I think AmiQWK
was hacking the clock. I don't know...

Aha, didn't it use a external unpacker?

That's the whole problem in UAE -- using Unzip! Any Zip archive will do
the UTC error. Do you know why?

Q-Blue is working perfect.....:-)

Well almost... It just doesn't absolutely abort like AmiQWK.

I wondering what Thor is going to do? I was planning to reinstall it.


Dennis

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At 3:06 PM on 2 Dec 03, Benny Pedersen said to Bo Simonsen:

Hello Bo!

01 Dec 03 17:00, Bo Simonsen wrote to DENNIS SMITH:

But who wants to run Dos based fidonet utilities on Amiga, then there
is UMS and other goodies? ;-)

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Would you know why when I unzip aan archive in UAE, I UTC errors.
Any other archiver doesn't do that, just unzip. Would you happen to know
if Thor will abort QWK unpacking because of this?
:Dennis

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DENNIS SMITH wrote to BO SIMONSEN about ''Re: SANA-IIR4 =:o'':

...Anyway, QWK mail is working
fine with Q-Blue 2.4 in the A1'miggy! I used AmiQWK2.9 and had
problems with unpacker.

AmiQWK was quite used by many afair. BTW Can spot handle QWK packages
too or just FTN packages?

It would abort unzipping because of a TZ
env variable error and UTC error? Huh? UAE always boots fine with
the correct hardware clock! So, I got a copy of Q-Blue off the old
A2K and installed it today! :) Bam, it works fine! I think AmiQWK
was hacking the clock. I don't know...

Aha, didn't it use a external unpacker?

That's the whole problem in UAE -- using Unzip! Any Zip archive
will do the UTC error. Do you know why?

Not really, I've never been a Amiga user, but Benny has promised me to getting started with Amiga :-)

Bo

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Hello Bo!

03 Dec 03 22:52, Bo Simonsen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

But who wants to run Dos based fidonet utilities on Amiga, then
there is UMS and other goodies? ;-)

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Cool :-) There ain't a QWK-to-Squish yet for Linux use.. Damn sad
that it went Amiga so bad.

you are lost :-)

I'll look forward to get a Amiga ;-)

ok


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-24.8 (i686))
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Hello DENNIS!

06 Dec 03 16:07, DENNIS SMITH wrote to BO SIMONSEN:

That's the whole problem in UAE -- using Unzip! Any Zip archive will
do the UTC error. Do you know why?

was XADmaster not possible in UAE ?

Q-Blue is working perfect.....:-)

yep at the time i used it yep :-)

Well almost... It just doesn't absolutely abort like AmiQWK.

stay on then :-)

I wondering what Thor is going to do? I was planning to reinstall it.

please do, PINT = Pint Is Not Thor (a ums reader)

Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello DENNIS!

06 Dec 03 16:32, DENNIS SMITH wrote to BENNY PEDERSEN:

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Would you know why when I unzip aan archive in UAE, I UTC errors.
Any other archiver doesn't do that, just unzip. Would you happen to
know if Thor will abort QWK unpacking because of this?

try to show your qwk bundle pack with unzip -l bbs.qwk if its a y2k issue ?

if yes then XADmaster do not have this problem :-)

XADmaster can be found on aminet like here http://www.aminet.net/


Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/2.4.20-24.8 (i686))
# Origin: ftp://junc.org/ binkd 1.0a-300 xpoint@junc.org (2:237/53)
# Origin: LiveWire BBS -=*=- telnet://livewirebbs.com (1:2320/100)
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Benny Pedersen wrote to Bo Simonsen about ''SANA-IIR4 =:o'':

But who wants to run Dos based fidonet utilities on Amiga, then
there is UMS and other goodies? ;-)

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Cool :-) There ain't a QWK-to-Squish yet for Linux use.. Damn sad
that it went Amiga so bad.

you are lost :-)

Yes I know :-)

I'll look forward to get a Amiga ;-)

ok

:-)

Bo

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:-)
At 1:37 AM on 12 Dec 03, Benny Pedersen said to Dennis Smith:

Hello DENNIS!

06 Dec 03 16:32, DENNIS SMITH wrote to BENNY PEDERSEN:

yep qwk importer exists for ums, no problemo :-)

Would you know why when I unzip aan archive in UAE, I UTC errors.
Any other archiver doesn't do that, just unzip. Would you happen to
know if Thor will abort QWK unpacking because of this?

try to show your qwk bundle pack with unzip -l bbs.qwk if its a y2k
issue ?

That'll get you a dos error 205 :-/ But, 'unzip -j bbs.qwk works! :-)
I changed the default 'unzip -jo bbs.qwk'; dropped the o
which means overwrite. Not sure why this triggers the UTC errors.

Thanks for the help. :) Everything is humming nice -- hmmmmm!

if yes then XADmaster do not have this problem :-)

Aah, Dirk Stoecker's internal client prg! Yes, I tested that it's OK, but
it is shareware! A lot popups to remind me of that.

XADmaster can be found on aminet like here http://www.aminet.net/

Also in your OS3.9 :)

Donald still up and running, the host of ADS :-)

I'm not sure he does. You need to ask him. :)

:Dennis

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