Recently, thanks to the help of the local Amiga group managed to get an Amiga 3000 up and running. Makes the perfect BBSing machine, and that is important to me.

I'm trying to go with a non hard drive system... just because. :)

How many floppy drives can I hook up to this? Is there a PCMCIA adaptor for the Amiga 3000 so that I could use say a 32 meg flash card?

As for this keyboard... I have a Amiga 2000 keyboard.. any tips on cleaning this up so I don't have to pound it for some characters? :)

A little bit about the Amiga I'm using for anyone wanting to give advice... it is a Amiga 3000, 2meg vide0, 12 meg fastram. Two floppy drives, so I am running things off of the floppy drives and the ram disk. This A 3000 requires

a kick start disk before the workbench disk. :)

Anyway, would love it if I could get a flash disk of some type working. Don't need too much space to run the Amiga and a term program... maybe say 6 meg tops.

Simple Amiga needs for now.

Doctor Clu
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PS: Look forward to enjoying the Amiga scene here in Dallas. We have a user group and a BBS. Fun. :)

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In a message of 08 Nov 03 Greg Goodwin wrote to All:

A little bit about the Amiga I'm using for anyone wanting to give advice... it is a Amiga 3000, 2meg vide0, 12 meg fastram. Two floppy drives, so I am running things off of the floppy drives and the ram
disk. This A 3000 requires a kick start disk before the workbench
disk. :)

Greg,

I'd *really* like to talk with you about this. Please netmail me or e-mail me at rod72@optonline.net, if you don't mind.

Rodney
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You've got mail! :)

Aside from that, this is working out well. Managed to figure out thanks to the beginning help from the local Amiga group and a manual I picked up the local used computer store how to backup the startup disks, and now things are sailing much better. Running Term-030 and Workbench off two floppies and a good sized ram disk. :)
Still would love it if PCMCIA cards could be used on this model, but that might just be a A1200 thing.

What kind of memory cards could be used on the A1200 (and other Amigas with the PCMCIA slot?)


I think the keyboard is finally getting most of the rust knocked off of it. I took it apart to try to clean it... (A2000 keyboard) Impossible. But it

did remind me of how the Atari 800 keyboard was made... once again adding fuel to this feeling a lot like the Atari 800 days... which is what I wanted in a way. The feel and excitement of the Atari 800, but with a system that can do what I want now, and a little more modern than the 800. Making that Jay Miner connection, it seems to have worked. :)

Take care!

Doctor Clu

In a message of 08 Nov 03 Greg Goodwin wrote to All:

A little bit about the Amiga I'm using for anyone wanting to give
advice... it is a Amiga 3000, 2meg vide0, 12 meg fastram. Two floppy
drives, so I am running things off of the floppy drives and the ram
disk. This A 3000 requires a kick start disk before the workbench
disk. :)

Greg,

I'd *really* like to talk with you about this. Please netmail me or e-mail me
at rod72@optonline.net, if you don't mind.

Rodney

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In a message of 09 Nov 03 Greg Goodwin wrote to me:

You've got mail! :)

Thanks! Responded. =)

Aside from that, this is working out well. Managed to figure out thanks to the beginning help from the local Amiga group and a manual I picked up the local used computer store how to backup the startup
disks, and now things are sailing much better. Running Term-030 and Workbench off two floppies and a good sized ram disk. :)

I must say this - the Amiga 3000 was very literally designed to be used with a hard disk. It's especially convenient on the SuperKickstart model to switch ROMs, though floppies (as you've seen personally) do still work. =)

Still would love it if PCMCIA cards could be used on this model,
but that might just be a A1200 thing.

A1200 and A600, yes.

What kind of memory cards could be used on the A1200 (and other Amigas with the PCMCIA slot?)

Pretty much any 4MB (or smaller) PCMCIA RAM card should work, I believe.

I think the keyboard is finally getting most of the rust knocked
off of it. I took it apart to try to clean it... (A2000 keyboard) Impossible. But it did remind me of how the Atari 800 keyboard was made... once again adding fuel to this feeling a lot like the Atari 800 days... which is what I wanted in a way. The feel and excitement of
the Atari 800, but with a system that can do what I want now, and a
little more modern than the 800. Making that Jay Miner connection, it seems to have worked. :)

Jay was indeed a living legend. =) Everything he touched seemed to be ahead of its time.

Glad to hear you're enjoying the 3000!

- Rodney

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In a message of 09 Nov 03 Greg Goodwin wrote to me:

I must say this - the Amiga 3000 was very literally designed to be used with a
hard disk. It's especially convenient on the SuperKickstart model to switch ROMs, though floppies (as you've seen personally) do still work. =)

Yeh, doesn't do too bad. So how many floppy drives can an Amiga handle?

Still would love it if PCMCIA cards could be used on this model,
but that might just be a A1200 thing.

A1200 and A600, yes.

That Amiga 1200 is sounding really nice.

What kind of memory cards could be used on the A1200 (and other
Amigas with the PCMCIA slot?)

Pretty much any 4MB (or smaller) PCMCIA RAM card should work, I believe.

Only 4 mb? There hasn't been a hack made for larger by now? What kind of cards can be used? Linear or ATA? Static or Flash?

I think the keyboard is finally getting most of the rust knocked
off of it. I took it apart to try to clean it... (A2000 keyboard)
Impossible. But it did remind me of how the Atari 800 keyboard was
made... once again adding fuel to this feeling a lot like the Atari 800
days... which is what I wanted in a way. The feel and excitement of
the Atari 800, but with a system that can do what I want now, and a
little more modern than the 800. Making that Jay Miner connection, it
seems to have worked. :)

Jay was indeed a living legend. =) Everything he touched seemed to be ahead of its time.

Glad to hear you're enjoying the 3000!

Man, the Atari 800 and Amiga were definately ahead of their times. I have heard two accounts, very similar, how people drooled over the demoes poured out

by those machines. And how they wished they had four times the money for four times the current computer. :)

BTW... anyone have a A-3000 keyboard that is working well for sale. This A-2000 keyboard just isn't very responsive.

Doctor Clu

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In a message of 10 Nov 03 Greg Goodwin wrote to me:

I must say this - the Amiga 3000 was very literally designed to be used
with a
hard disk. It's especially convenient on the SuperKickstart model to
switch ROMs, though floppies (as you've seen personally) do still work.
=)

Yeh, doesn't do too bad. So how many floppy drives can an Amiga handle?

Up to four.

Still would love it if PCMCIA cards could be used on this model, but
that might just be a A1200 thing.

A1200 and A600, yes.

That Amiga 1200 is sounding really nice.

Considering the expandability beyond the designer's wildest dreams, it is indeed.

What kind of memory cards could be used on the A1200 (and other Amigas
with the PCMCIA slot?)

Pretty much any 4MB (or smaller) PCMCIA RAM card should work, I believe.

Only 4 mb? There hasn't been a hack made for larger by now? What kind of cards can be used? Linear or ATA? Static or Flash?

No, no hacks for larger that I'm aware of. Please forgive my lack of detailed PCMCIA RAM knowledge, I'm afraid I'm not in a position to answer the other questions - try asking in comp.sys.amiga.hardware for more detail than you'll probably want. =)

Man, the Atari 800 and Amiga were definately ahead of their times.
I have heard two accounts, very similar, how people drooled over the demoes poured out by those machines. And how they wished they had
four times the money for four times the current computer. :)

Absolutely. I still vividly remember moments watching groundbreaking Amiga demos - some of which still impress people today. It's pretty funny to hear people ask "how do you make a computer do that?" when showing them a demo made over a decade ago running under emulation. *laughs*

- Rodney

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Hello Greg!

10 Nov 03 00:46, Greg Goodwin wrote to Rodney Hester:

Yeh, doesn't do too bad. So how many floppy drives can an Amiga
handle?

any amiga can handle 4 floppy drives

but you can make network with Envoy upto 255 floppy drives :-)

Still would love it if PCMCIA cards could be used on this model,
but that might just be a A1200 thing.

A1200 and A600, yes.

That Amiga 1200 is sounding really nice.

but if PCMCIA is used you can only have 4M fastmem on a600, the same applies for a1200 until you have 68030 as main cpu

What kind of memory cards could be used on the A1200 (and other Amigas
with the PCMCIA slot?)

Pretty much any 4MB (or smaller) PCMCIA RAM card should work, I believe.

yep true

Only 4 mb?

PCMCIA on amiga is just 16bit

There hasn't been a hack made for larger by now?

nope

What kind of cards can be used?

any 16bit card do work

Linear or ATA?

Linear

Static or Flash?

both


Regards Benny

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Thanks to both Rodney and Benny. Thanks for the answers to all questions (thus far at least)

This did get my attention...

any amiga can handle 4 floppy drives

but you can make network with Envoy upto 255 floppy drives :-)

Wha....?

Still would love it if PCMCIA cards could be used on this model,
but that might just be a A1200 thing.

A1200 and A600, yes.

That Amiga 1200 is sounding really nice.

but if PCMCIA is used you can only have 4M fastmem on a600, the same applies for a1200 until you have 68030 as main cpu

Why the limitation? Hardware or driver?

Greg

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Hello Greg,

GG> That Amiga 1200 is sounding really nice.

I miss mine a lot. I had an expansion card with a 4Mb 32- bit 72-pin SIMM (together with the 2Mb soldered on the A1200 mainboard this made 6Mb, which was

plenty :-) And a 68882 floating-point math chip. My friend Nigel fitted his with a Blizzard accellerator that with 50 MHz 68030 & 68882 and additional RAM - very nice machines.

GG> Only 4 mb? There hasn't been a hack made for larger by
> now? What kind of cards can be used? Linear or ATA?
> Static or Flash?

As far as I know SRAM cards up to 4Mb could go in there. I used a Squirrel SCSI adaptor with an external SCSI CD-ROM drive. I think some accellerator boards have SCSI built in, freeing up the PC-Card slot for something else.

- Andy Ball.

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All I can say is wow. I guess I will have to see more 1200's in action. They sound like good machines that people are always torn on wiether to keep in

the keyboard and computer in one design, or break out from that and start expanding.

Reminds me of my Atari 1040 STE. :) (Expanded to 4 meg.. blah blah blah...)

Yeh, sounds like the Amiga is either the parallel for the 1040STE or the Falcon. Not sure which yet.

Doctor Clu
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Hello Greg,

That Amiga 1200 is sounding really nice.

I miss mine a lot. I had an expansion card with a 4Mb 32-
bit 72-pin SIMM (together with the 2Mb soldered on the A1200
mainboard this made 6Mb, which was plenty :-) And a 68882
floating-point math chip. My friend Nigel fitted his with a
Blizzard accellerator that with 50 MHz 68030 & 68882 and
additional RAM - very nice machines.

Only 4 mb? There hasn't been a hack made for larger by
now? What kind of cards can be used? Linear or ATA?
Static or Flash?

As far as I know SRAM cards up to 4Mb could go in there. I
used a Squirrel SCSI adaptor with an external SCSI CD-ROM
drive. I think some accellerator boards have SCSI built in,
freeing up the PC-Card slot for something else.
- Andy Ball.

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Hello Greg,

GG> All I can say is wow. I guess I will have to see more 1200's in
> action. They sound like good machines that people are always
> torn on wiether to keep in the keyboard and computer in one
> design, or break out from that and start expanding.

The A1200 is a nice machine: 16 MHz 68020 (near as makes no odds) and I ran a 68882, possibly at 32 MHz and a 4Mb SIMM (in addition to the soldered 2Mb). Both FPU and SIMM socket were on a card that lived in the trapdoor slot. A friend of mine added a 68030+68882 to his, both running at 50 MHz. He eventually went the tower route.

GG> Reminds me of my Atari 1040 STE. :) (Expanded to 4 meg.. blah
> blah blah...)

The 1040 STE was a nice machine, but not really in the same class as an A1200, which had a 32-bit bus and room for a 2.5" ATA hard disk internally (that said,

if you've got a 1040 laying around somewhere... ;-)

GG> Yeh, sounds like the Amiga is either the parallel for the 1040
> STE or the Falcon. Not sure which yet.

That's not comparing like with like. An Amiga 500 would be a suitable match for an STE - but more expandable, with a more sophisticated (and complicated) operating system. An A1200 is more like a TT than a Falcon, since it has a full 32-bit bus, yet lacks the DSP.

- Andy.

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Hello Andy!

29 Feb 04 21:33, Andy Ball wrote to Greg Goodwin:

The A1200 is a nice machine: 16 MHz 68020 (near as makes no odds) and

please open your amiga and see where you find 16 MHz :-)

and don't give me idears of what to add on http://fido.juncorg.dk/

it might happend anyway :-)

Regards Benny

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Hello Benny,

AB> The A1200 is a nice machine: 16 MHz 68020 (near as
> makes no odds)

BP> please open your amiga and see where you find 16 MHz :-)

Ah. Looks like it's a 14.28 MHz 68EC020 (24-bit address bus Vs the full 68020's 32-bit one). Thanks for the correction.

BP> and don't give me idears of what to add on
> http://fido.juncorg.dk/

?

- Andy Ball

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Hello Andy!

27 Mar 04 23:31, Andy Ball wrote to Benny Pedersen:

please open your amiga and see where you find 16 MHz :-)

Ah. Looks like it's a 14.28 MHz 68EC020 (24-bit address bus Vs the
full 68020's 32-bit one). Thanks for the correction.

it's 2 x a1000 clocked

and don't give me idears of what to add on http://fido.juncorg.dk/

?

i work on a web reader / writer with sql backend so i can follow fido everywhere :-)

http://fidosql.sf.net/ if any are intrested

Regards Benny

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