• kickstart loading

    From Bo Kvamme@1:2320/100 to All on Sat Mar 20 15:28:26 2004
    Hi!

    I'm looking for information on the kickstart loader routine of an A1000. Are there any checksums done on the data read from the two first sectors of the kickstart diskette?
    I know of the checksum on the kickstart diskette. A disassembly and/or information on the kickstart loader are very much appreceated. Where are the code located in memory, when/how, if at all, is it removed from the address space?

    I'm at a VERY EARLY stage of trying to implement my own OS for the A1000. Any information towards that goal are very much appreceated.

    btw: I'm not interested in joining some already existing OS project. I want to do this from scratch by my own, but I obviously need some help collecting the information needed for such a project.

    -bgk

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Sat Mar 27 09:21:02 2004
    Hi Bo,

    * In a messge originally to All, Bo Kvamme said:

    I'm at a VERY EARLY stage of trying to implement my own OS for
    the A1000. Any information towards that goal are very much
    appreceated.

    btw: I'm not interested in joining some already existing OS project.
    I want to do this from scratch by my own, but I obviously need some
    help collecting the information needed for such a project.


    What are you setting out to achieve with this OS ? Do you plan on
    allowing it to be distributed & open source ?

    Doubt you'll find many A1000 users left, apart from me :-)

    cheers,

    Lance

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Mon Mar 29 01:07:12 2004
    Hello Lance!

    27 Mar 04 09:21, Lance Lyon wrote to Bo Kvamme:

    Doubt you'll find many A1000 users left, apart from me :-)

    welcome to the club of a1000 owners :-)

    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Wendell Watanabe@1:2320/100 to Benny Pedersen on Mon Mar 29 18:39:08 2004
    On the subject of [F:AMIGA] kickstart loading, Benny Pedersen had this
    to say...
    Hello Lance!

    27 Mar 04 09:21, Lance Lyon wrote to Bo Kvamme:

    Doubt you'll find many A1000 users left, apart from me :-)

    welcome to the club of a1000 owners :-)

    Well, I am an owner also! But, not really a user anymore. My first
    Amiga sits in the rec room (along side a old Mac), but neither is even
    plugged in.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    wendell@eskimo.com | http://www.eskimo.com/~wendell/


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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Wendell Watanabe on Tue Mar 30 05:46:02 2004
    * In a messge originally to Benny Pedersen, Wendell Watanabe said:

    On the subject of [F:AMIGA] kickstart loading, Benny Pedersen
    Well, I am an owner also! But, not really a user anymore. My first
    Amiga sits in the rec room (along side a old Mac), but neither is
    even
    plugged in.


    Oh - mine still gets used - I'm able to afford all those things now (via
    eBay) that I couldn't when the machine was new :-)

    Just picked up another one, one with the replacement Phoenix mobo,
    hasn't arrived yet, but looking forward to playing with it when it does.

    cheers,

    Lance
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  • From Wendell Watanabe@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Tue Mar 30 19:44:44 2004
    On the subject of kickstart loading, Lance Lyon had this to say...
    * In a messge originally to Benny Pedersen, Wendell Watanabe said:
    Well, I am an owner also! But, not really a user anymore. My first
    Amiga sits in the rec room (along side a old Mac), but neither is
    even plugged in.

    Oh - mine still gets used - I'm able to afford all those things
    now (via eBay) that I couldn't when the machine was new :-)

    cool! Would be kinda neat to do the same with mine. I guess my first
    purchase would have to be a hard drive but I don't even rememeber what
    options were available for adding one.

    Just picked up another one, one with the replacement Phoenix mobo,
    hasn't arrived yet, but looking forward to playing with it when
    it does.

    hmm, now that I think of it, I actually have two myself! But one (which
    I really bought just for the keyboard!) sits in the garage. Don't know
    if it still boots up.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:2320/100 to Wendell Watanabe on Thu Apr 1 06:25:28 2004
    Hello Wendell!

    29 Mar 04 18:39, Wendell Watanabe wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    welcome to the club of a1000 owners :-)
    Well, I am an owner also! But, not really a user anymore. My first
    Amiga sits in the rec room (along side a old Mac), but neither is
    even plugged in.

    it even sounds familiar to what i have here, i have a 68020 based mac :-)

    with a 4GB scsi harddisk, hehe it still works, but i have no monitor for it :/

    i belive the mmu chip is there some place, can't remember, it do need to swap to be good at grafix and huh, graphical os :-)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Wendell Watanabe@1:2320/100 to Benny Pedersen on Thu Apr 1 23:28:18 2004
    On the subject of [F:AMIGA] kickstart loading, Benny Pedersen had this
    to say...
    Hello Wendell!

    29 Mar 04 18:39, Wendell Watanabe wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    welcome to the club of a1000 owners :-)
    Well, I am an owner also! But, not really a user anymore. My
    first Amiga sits in the rec room (along side a old Mac), but
    neither is even plugged in.

    it even sounds familiar to what i have here, i have a 68020 based
    mac :-)

    guess we are both sorta building a mini computer museum. heh!

    with a 4GB scsi harddisk, hehe it still works, but i have no
    monitor for it :/

    i belive the mmu chip is there some place, can't remember, it do
    need to swap to be good at grafix and huh, graphical os :-)

    Mine is not the original Mac, but I believe the follow up model.
    MacPlus? Not sure and too lazy to run downstairs and look right now.
    :-/ It was given to me by a co-worker a couple of years ago, and I've
    only played with it for a little while. He also gave me a box of
    various software and a printer.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    wendell@eskimo.com | http://www.eskimo.com/~wendell/


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  • From Bo Kvamme@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Mon Apr 5 02:25:38 2004
    What are you setting out to achieve with this OS ?

    I want to make my own OS, but I want to start simple :-) It's a learning process + I want to renew my old 68000/amiga skills. Besides, my A1000 is collecting dust.....


    Do you plan on allowing it to be distributed & open source?

    yes. everything I code will be open source.


    Doubt you'll find many A1000 users left, apart from me :-)

    there are a few still :-)
    A1000 owners tend to love/keep their machines....

    -bgk

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Tue Apr 6 06:27:02 2004
    * In a messge originally to Lance Lyon, Bo Kvamme said:

    there are a few still :-)
    A1000 owners tend to love/keep their machines....



    Are you still using it though ? What for ? Unfortunately, many of the
    more recent games/tools simply won't run with it. On the flip side, I've
    got a lot of older games that work nicely on it that won't work on the
    later machines :-)



    cheers,


    Lance
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  • From Bo Kvamme@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Wed Apr 7 02:34:54 2004
    there are a few still :-)
    A1000 owners tend to love/keep their machines....
    Are you still using it though ? What for ? Unfortunately, many of the
    more recent games/tools simply won't run with it. On the flip side, I've
    got a lot of older games that work nicely on it that won't work on the
    later machines :-)

    I'm playing a game now and then.
    I'm mostly interested in software/games 1985-1989. Strategy, adventure and rpg games were/are my favorites. I'd like to use it for coding. Good old 68000 coding with DevPac3 or ArgASM.

    But nothing beats the moment I first saw an A1000 running Deluxe Paint, Sonix and the first animations showing off the Amiga. I think that must have been sometime in the winter of 1985/1986. 2 of my friends bought their Amigas at about that same time. I didn't have the money until may 1987 and got an Amiga 500. The A1000 I got my hands on MUCH later.

    -bgk

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Fri Apr 9 09:38:02 2004
    * In a messge originally to Lance Lyon, Bo Kvamme said:



    I'm mostly interested in software/games 1985-1989. Strategy,
    adventure and rpg games were/are my favorites. I'd like to use it for
    coding. Good old 68000 coding with DevPac3 or ArgASM.



    Agreed - I try wherever possible to preserve old application software,
    much in then way of games has been preserved by many sites on the
    Net, but not as much in the way of abandoned applications. If I'm at a
    flea market or similar & there's old Amiga stuff available, I'll grab it & convert it to an ADF image. (Mind you, I also do the same with old DOS software too).



    cheers,



    Lance
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  • From Bo Kvamme@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Wed Apr 14 20:15:38 2004
    Agreed - I try wherever possible to preserve old application software,
    much in then way of games has been preserved by many sites on the
    Net, but not as much in the way of abandoned applications. If I'm at a
    flea market or similar & there's old Amiga stuff available, I'll grab it & convert it to an ADF image. (Mind you, I also do the same with old DOS software too).

    Nice! I'm doing the same for good old c64 games on tape. I've got close to 1000

    tapes. It's a LOT of work though. But someone is got to do the dirty work :-)

    -bgk

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Fri Apr 23 14:17:02 2004
    * In a messge originally to Lance Lyon, Bo Kvamme said:

    Nice! I'm doing the same for good old c64 games on tape. I've got
    close to 1000 tapes. It's a LOT of work though. But someone is got to
    do the dirty work :-)

    -bgk



    I would *hate* to count the amount of C64 games I have - somewhere
    around 6,000 at least :-)


    cheers,


    Lance
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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Thu May 6 07:23:12 2004
    Hello Bo!

    05 Apr 04 02:26, Bo Kvamme wrote to Lance Lyon:

    there are a few still :-)
    A1000 owners tend to love/keep their machines....

    yes, so true :-)

    (i still have mine)

    Regards Benny

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Thu May 6 07:24:38 2004
    Hello Lance!

    06 Apr 04 06:27, Lance Lyon wrote to Bo Kvamme:

    Are you still using it though ? What for ? Unfortunately, many of the more recent games/tools simply won't run with it.

    but DM2 still works :-)

    i still remember the CLIMATE days

    i once crated a bootble ram disk on a1000 just to see how fast it realy is, hehe it was ready in secs :-)

    On the flip side, I've got a lot of older games that work nicely on it that won't work on the later machines :-)

    that make the later machines, eh crap :-)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Thu May 6 07:33:42 2004
    Hello Lance!

    23 Apr 04 14:17, Lance Lyon wrote to Bo Kvamme:

    I would *hate* to count the amount of C64 games I have - somewhere
    around 6,000 at least :-)

    why do you do things you hate so much ? :-)


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Bo Kvamme@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Fri May 7 19:52:38 2004
    I would *hate* to count the amount of C64 games I have - somewhere
    around 6,000 at least :-)

    Orginal tapes? for sale? :-)

    -bgk

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Benny Pedersen on Thu May 20 07:45:02 2004
    * In a message originally to Lance Lyon, Benny Pedersen said:

    On the flip side, I've got a lot of older games that work nicely on
    it
    that won't work on the later machines :-)

    that make the later machines, eh crap :-)

    Not exactly - but it does mean I have two Amiga's set up & occupying desktop real estate - bit of a bugger really - but the same applies to my PC's, there are three of those set up too (XT, 386 & the Athlon) for the same reasons.

    cheers,

    Lance

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Thu May 20 07:46:02 2004
    * In a message originally to Lance Lyon, Bo Kvamme said:

    I would *hate* to count the amount of C64 games I have - somewhere
    around 6,000 at least :-)

    Orginal tapes? for sale? :-)

    No (bloody hell, think of the storage space you'd need!) - downloadable D64's.

    cheers,

    Lance

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Benny Pedersen on Thu May 20 08:24:02 2004
    * In a message originally to Lance Lyon, Benny Pedersen said:

    I would *hate* to count the amount of C64 games I have - somewhere around 6,000 at least :-)

    why do you do things you hate so much ? :-)

    Masochistic streak I expect :-)

    cheers,

    Lance

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  • From Benny Pedersen@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Fri May 21 17:32:24 2004
    Hello Lance!

    20 May 04 07:46, Lance Lyon wrote to Bo Kvamme:

    No (bloody hell, think of the storage space you'd need!) -
    downloadable D64's.

    how many D64 can be on a DVD ?

    if a C64 have a DVD storage :-)

    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Benny Pedersen on Tue May 25 06:34:02 2004
    * In a message originally to Lance Lyon, Benny Pedersen said:


    how many D64 can be on a DVD ?


    Thousands :-)


    cheers,

    Lance

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Sat Jun 12 02:05:02 2004
    Hi Bo,

    * In a message originally to Lance Lyon, Bo Kvamme said:

    What are you setting out to achieve with this OS ?

    I want to make my own OS, but I want to start simple :-) It's a learning process + I want to renew my old 68000/amiga skills. Besides, my A1000 is collecting dust.....

    Any progress with this beastie to report ?

    cheers,

    Lance

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  • From Bo Kvamme@1:2320/100 to Lance Lyon on Tue Jun 15 20:43:20 2004
    I want to make my own OS, but I want to start simple :-) It's a learning
    process + I want to renew my old 68000/amiga skills. Besides, my A1000 is
    collecting dust.....
    Any progress with this beastie to report ?

    Sorry, not YET....

    I've been quite busy at work for some time now. I hope to resume work on this project later this year.

    Thanks for asking.
    I'll came back to you and this echo with information of the project when I've got something to show for it.

    -bgk

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  • From Lance Lyon@1:2320/100 to Bo Kvamme on Wed Jun 16 19:33:02 2004
    * In a message originally to Lance Lyon, Bo Kvamme said:

    I've been quite busy at work for some time now. I hope to resume work on this project later this year.


    Great - if you need any help, ask.

    cheers,

    Lance

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